1970s: Global Wrath (Early MT/OOC/OPEN)

[Arvenia]

Why isn't my country on the map right now? I would like it to be colored in orange or sky blue.

[Mathuvan Union]

that wasn't fascism that was national socialism with lashings of fascism

Hmmm could it have to do with fascist collaboration with National Socialism during the Second World War like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_war_crimes_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... _Holocaust

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes
wwe aren't all perfect--what I'm saying is that it makes no sense to go after a fascist government because theyre fascist

[Kenobot]

Hmmm could it have to do with fascist collaboration with National Socialism during the Second World War like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_war_crimes_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... _Holocaust

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes
wwe aren't all perfect--what I'm saying is that it makes no sense to go after a fascist government because theyre fascist

They don't really stack up compared to the crimes of the Axis. Was it bad some of the things the Allies did, sure. But we're the good guys and the Axis were quite clearly the bad guys and the Axis were all fascists/national socialists.
The Soviet Union is another story.
But please don't moral equivalence the Allies and the Axis. They're not comparable. Fascism is an evil ideology which normal people across the Western World have despised and sought to destroy for more than 80 years. Hence why especially Israel will target you

[Mathuvan Union]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes
wwe aren't all perfect--what I'm saying is that it makes no sense to go after a fascist government because theyre fascist

They don't really stack up compared to the crimes of the Axis. Was it bad some of the things the Allies did, sure. But we're the good guys and the Axis were quite clearly the bad guys and the Axis were all fascists/national socialists.
The Soviet Union is another story.
But please don't moral equivalence the Allies and the Axis. They're not comparable. Fascism is an evil ideology which normal people across the Western World have despised and sought to destroy for more than 80 years. Hence why especially Israel will target you

but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot

[Greater Liverpool]

They don't really stack up compared to the crimes of the Axis. Was it bad some of the things the Allies did, sure. But we're the good guys and the Axis were quite clearly the bad guys and the Axis were all fascists/national socialists.
The Soviet Union is another story.
But please don't moral equivalence the Allies and the Axis. They're not comparable. Fascism is an evil ideology which normal people across the Western World have despised and sought to destroy for more than 80 years. Hence why especially Israel will target you

but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot

Alright, let's not get into a debate about war crimes during WW2 and who was worse. What I will say is that it is understandable for Israel to target you, if you do start going fascist do remember Math you're playing as West Germany the literally birthplace of the Nazis. While I am not saying the Israel player will be successful but it is not far fetched for him to target it you Math can you understand that.

[Monsone]

I'll just put this here as a reminder to everyone on my war crimes policy.

[4] The glorification of atrocities, crimes against humanity, and other horrible things is not allowed in the OOC and is discouraged in the IC. If you're RP-ing as certain nations, you may want to be as discrete about said topics if you must right about them in the IC And remember, not bloody details.

[Mathuvan Union]

but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot

Alright, let's not get into a debate about war crimes during WW2 and who was worse. What I will say is that it is understandable for Israel to target you, if you do start going fascist do remember Math you're playing as West Germany the literally birthplace of the Nazis. While I am not saying the Israel player will be successful but it is not far fetched for him to target it you Math can you understand that.

Fucking Nuremberg.
Fascism isn’t automatically Nazism, which you’re all assuming. I have no quarrel with a fascist if they’re not doing anything bad, as I will reiterate. It’s not becoming a Nazi Dictatorship, as you all assume.

[Mathuvan Union]

but then you're denying horrible, horrible crimes committed by US, British, Canadian, and the rest of the allies, and they get away because they won? That's not very fair.
Morally, I don't compare the Axis and the Allies, but with criminal activity there are comparable parts of the story.
If a country is fascist, I wouldn't care much unless it involves human rights abuses and whatnot

Alright, let's not get into a debate about war crimes during WW2 and who was worse. What I will say is that it is understandable for Israel to target you, if you do start going fascist do remember Math you're playing as West Germany the literally birthplace of the Nazis. While I am not saying the Israel player will be successful but it is not far fetched for him to target it you Math can you understand that.

If you’re including murders of ethnic groups, that isn’t included as that’s not a war crime—that’s a crime against humanity.
So war crimes aren’t as different

[Wasi State]

Math, you do realize it is the SS Ordensstaat in the IC that want to reestablish their control in West Germany right? This will not make West Germany turn into a Italian/Franco style fascist state, they literally intend to turn it into a Ultranationalist Spartanist hellhole, surprisingly one of the few things that is arguably worse than National Socialism, because they have taken a page from the Khmer Rouge on top of their Nazism. Meaning no one is going to turn out well from this, and in all likelihood West Germany will likely turn into a failed state if the SS get what they want.

[Mathuvan Union]

Math, you do realize it is the SS Ordensstaat in the IC that want to reestablish their control in West Germany right? This will not make West Germany turn into a Italian/Franco style fascist state, they literally intend to turn it into a Ultranationalist Spartanist hellhole, surprisingly one of the few things that is arguably worse than National Socialism, because they have taken a page from the Khmer Rouge on top of their Nazism. Meaning no one is going to turn out well from this, and in all likelihood West Germany will likely turn into a failed state if the SS get what they want.

I will not Be responding to the SS.
West Germany does not deal with terrorists.

[Wasi State]

I will not Be responding to the SS.
West Germany does not deal with terrorists.

Then in all likelihood the Kaiser will be executed, unless rescue efforts can still save him in time. Though a lack of response still from West Germany does make his chances a lot worse, and I can't imagine it'll go over well for a large portion of the population.

[Mathuvan Union]

I will not Be responding to the SS.
West Germany does not deal with terrorists.

Then in all likelihood the Kaiser will be executed, unless rescue efforts can still save him in time. Though a lack of response still from West Germany does make his chances a lot worse, and I can't imagine it'll go over well for a large portion of the population.

I don’t know what to do!

[Chewion]

Then in all likelihood the Kaiser will be executed, unless rescue efforts can still save him in time. Though a lack of response still from West Germany does make his chances a lot worse, and I can't imagine it'll go over well for a large portion of the population.

I don’t know what to do!

Request US assistance.

[Monsone]

I don’t know what to do!

Request US assistance.

Or just try looking for him. Contact other nations to see what they know, colaborate with foriegn intelliegence agencies to find the Kaiser.

Then again, the Kaiser could be as far away as Argentina or Australia by now.

[Mathuvan Union]

Request US assistance.

Or just try looking for him. Contact other nations to see what they know, colaborate with foriegn intelliegence agencies to find the Kaiser.

Then again, the Kaiser could be as far away as Argentina or Australia by now.

I’ll get in touch with the CIA KGB and MI6, and the French agency.
The BND will try to covertly search.

[American Pere Housh]

Or just try looking for him. Contact other nations to see what they know, colaborate with foriegn intelliegence agencies to find the Kaiser.

Then again, the Kaiser could be as far away as Argentina or Australia by now.

I’ll get in touch with the CIA KGB and MI6, and the French agency.
The BND will try to covertly search.

Math, the reason that Israel hates Fascism and Nazism is because what they did to the Jews. I won't go into details but as along as those SS thugs exist, I will hunt them down. Don't think because they live outside of Israel that they are safe from Mossad. I have to ask why not ask Israel for assistance as we would gladly look for the Kaiser.

[Mathuvan Union]

I’ll get in touch with the CIA KGB and MI6, and the French agency.
The BND will try to covertly search.

Math, the reason that Israel hates Fascism and Nazism is because what they did to the Jews. I won't go into details but as along as those SS thugs exist, I will hunt them down. Don't think because they live outside of Israel that they are safe from Mossad. I have to ask why not ask Israel for assistance as we would gladly look for the Kaiser.

I’m not installing nazis

[Spiritual Republic of Caryton]

China's on fire, Kim Il-Sung is under stress to perpetually repel hordes of anarchists from manchuria, the SS still exists, the Kaiser is being held prisoner, and the Mossad is everywhere.

Global war and nuclear holocaust when?

[Wasi State]

China's on fire, Kim Il-Sung is under stress to perpetually repel hordes of anarchists from manchuria, the SS still exists, the Kaiser is being held prisoner, and the Mossad is everywhere.

Global war and nuclear holocaust when?

I mean that is unironically the ultimate goal of the SS to trigger a thermonuclear war across the planet and to annihilate the vast majority of the human race to create a new dawn in the form of a virtual Hell on Earth for countless generations to weed out the weak and 'undesirables' once and for all. After they have considered the planet in its current state to be a lost cause after the Axis' defeat in WWII.

A global, more conventional war is interestingly also the end goal of the War Corporatist faction in the Union of Flanders-Wallonia. Essentially getting tensions high enough that the military industrial complex can essentially take over all facets of society and they can reap the rewards and profits from a perpetual WWIII as long as the nukes don't start flying.

[Mathuvan Union]

China's on fire, Kim Il-Sung is under stress to perpetually repel hordes of anarchists from manchuria, the SS still exists, the Kaiser is being held prisoner, and the Mossad is everywhere.

Global war and nuclear holocaust when?

I mean that is unironically the ultimate goal of the SS to trigger a thermonuclear war across the planet and to annihilate the vast majority of the human race to create a new dawn in the form of a virtual Hell on Earth for countless generations to weed out the weak and 'undesirables' once and for all. After they have considered the planet in its current state to be a lost cause after the Axis' defeat in WWII.

A global, more conventional war is interestingly also the end goal of the War Corporatist faction in the Union of Flanders-Wallonia. Essentially getting tensions high enough that the military industrial complex can essentially take over all facets of society and they can reap the rewards and profits from a perpetual WWIII as long as the nukes don't start flying.

they're so annoying, they need to f*ck off.
hope the french smack 'em.

[Monsone]

I mean that is unironically the ultimate goal of the SS to trigger a thermonuclear war across the planet and to annihilate the vast majority of the human race to create a new dawn in the form of a virtual Hell on Earth for countless generations to weed out the weak and 'undesirables' once and for all. After they have considered the planet in its current state to be a lost cause after the Axis' defeat in WWII.

A global, more conventional war is interestingly also the end goal of the War Corporatist faction in the Union of Flanders-Wallonia. Essentially getting tensions high enough that the military industrial complex can essentially take over all facets of society and they can reap the rewards and profits from a perpetual WWIII as long as the nukes don't start flying.

they're so annoying, they need to f*ck off.
hope the french smack 'em.

Uhm, I'm not dealing with them. I'm sending troops to allow Flanders-Wallonia to concentrate on the riots and protests. The French troops are going to be stationed on the border of Flanders-Wallonia and Germany.

[Mathuvan Union]

they're so annoying, they need to f*ck off.
hope the french smack 'em.

Uhm, I'm not dealing with them. I'm sending troops to allow Flanders-Wallonia to concentrate on the riots and protests. The French troops are going to be stationed on the border of Flanders-Wallonia and Germany.

The riots are including the SS.

[Monsone]

Uhm, I'm not dealing with them. I'm sending troops to allow Flanders-Wallonia to concentrate on the riots and protests. The French troops are going to be stationed on the border of Flanders-Wallonia and Germany.

The riots are including the SS.

So what? The French troops main goal is to defend Flanders-Wallonia against Germany and to free up local manpower to crush the protests. French troops will not be crushing the protests.

[Mathuvan Union]

The riots are including the SS.

So what? The French troops main goal is to defend Flanders-Wallonia against Germany and to free up local manpower to crush the protests. French troops will not be crushing the protests.

We aren’t invading smh

[Speyland]

Is Brunei open?