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Postby Chewion » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:27 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Union Princes wrote:
Chewion's app has Reagan elected early due to the Oil Crisis

If I remember correctly, Reagan was Democrat at this time

No he switched in the early 60’s. In 63 he was helping campaign for Goldwater and was elected governor of California and sworn in in 67 as a Republican. He switched back in 1962 but even before then was turning conservative.
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Postby Dahyan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:46 pm

Union Princes wrote:The Soviets don't have to do anything it seems, the west is capable enough of disintegrating itself. What a nightmare

A dream come true, indeed.
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Postby Dahyan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:47 pm

Chewion wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:If I remember correctly, Reagan was Democrat at this time

No he switched in the early 60’s. In 63 he was helping campaign for Goldwater and was elected governor of California and sworn in in 67 as a Republican. He switched back in 1962 but even before then was turning conservative.


Something something Democrats and Republicans are basically the same.
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Postby Kenobot » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:07 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:Hey everybody, Israel is here and ready to take on the world. ;)
I will post soon.

United Arab Republic here: Want to be friends?
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Postby Dahyan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:53 pm

Kenobot wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Hey everybody, Israel is here and ready to take on the world. ;)
I will post soon.

United Arab Republic here: Want to be friends?

How is that going to work?
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Postby Kenobot » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:03 am

Dahyan wrote:
Kenobot wrote:United Arab Republic here: Want to be friends?

How is that going to work?

Well remember the last two Arab-Israeli wars? That went swimmingly, hey?
But also there's no point as long as the Israelis also respect the rights of Palestinians inside their borders. Besides, there's bigger fish to fry and we'd like to not make unnecessary enemies

EDIT: Also IC post is up!
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Postby Arvenia » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:10 am

When the next map arrives, I want Sweden to be colored in orange.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:36 am

Is anyone gonna respond to my telegram? Monsone what would be the likeliness of the NPCs joining?
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:27 am

Can I ask the OP and the soviets players for their input on a potential Balkan Socialist federation? I have been reading up on it and it sounds interesting. Excluding Greece of course from the federation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:29 am

Greater Liverpool wrote:Can I ask the OP and the soviets players for their input on a potential Balkan Socialist federation? I have been reading up on it and it sounds interesting. Excluding Greece of course from the federation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation

Basically Yugoslavia?
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:39 am

You guys need to start writing in paragraphs, its in the rules. Three sentences just won't do.
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Postby Monsone » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:48 am

Greater Liverpool wrote:Can I ask the OP and the soviets players for their input on a potential Balkan Socialist federation? I have been reading up on it and it sounds interesting. Excluding Greece of course from the federation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation


The point of divergence is 1950. Unless Tito (or whoever is leading this nation) wants war with the Eastern Bloc and later the Warsaw Pact, such a nation will not be able to exist. Albania was already paranoid of everyone and everything by 1950 and Romania was having it's own troubles at the same time. Greece has already been taken by a player, and I don't think Bulgaria would willingly join either.

The only way to form such a nation is by war. That is going to to not end well. Furthermore, I should note the USSR remained Stalinist in this timeline, so a very pro-Western but non-aliged Yugoslavia is possible.
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Postby Monsone » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:49 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:Is anyone gonna respond to my telegram? Monsone what would be the likeliness of the NPCs joining?

NPCs are the same countries as IRL with few if any changes.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:52 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Is anyone gonna respond to my telegram? Monsone what would be the likeliness of the NPCs joining?

NPCs are the same countries as IRL with few if any changes.

So they would or wouldn’t?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:57 am

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:57 am

I will Be giving the weapons and special names later.
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Postby Monsone » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:06 am

Kenobot wrote: Besides, there's bigger fish to fry...


I must warn you that Libya is a very important source of oil for Europe. Invading it will likely lead to an intervention by countries like France, Italy, and maybe even the Imperial Federation. Libya is a critical oil source, and the UAR taking is is going to go over well. The same goes for Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, and the UAE. Realistically the IF will come to their aid as might other countries.

I highly doubt the UAR would survive a joint Anglo-French intervention. Or if NATO and the west feel threatened enough, possibly even a NATO intervention.
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Postby Dahyan » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 am

Kenobot wrote:
Dahyan wrote:How is that going to work?

Well remember the last two Arab-Israeli wars? That went swimmingly, hey?
But also there's no point as long as the Israelis also respect the rights of Palestinians inside their borders. Besides, there's bigger fish to fry and we'd like to not make unnecessary enemies

EDIT: Also IC post is up!


Nasser's entire swing was driving the Zionists back into the sea. Whether or not wars were lost on the way is irrelevant. I would expect a massive popular uproar if a Pan-Arab icon like Nasser suddenly decides to shake hands with Zionists.
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:59 am

Monsone wrote:
Greater Liverpool wrote:Can I ask the OP and the soviets players for their input on a potential Balkan Socialist federation? I have been reading up on it and it sounds interesting. Excluding Greece of course from the federation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation


The point of divergence is 1950. Unless Tito (or whoever is leading this nation) wants war with the Eastern Bloc and later the Warsaw Pact, such a nation will not be able to exist. Albania was already paranoid of everyone and everything by 1950 and Romania was having it's own troubles at the same time. Greece has already been taken by a player, and I don't think Bulgaria would willingly join either.

The only way to form such a nation is by war. That is going to to not end well. Furthermore, I should note the USSR remained Stalinist in this timeline, so a very pro-Western but non-aliged Yugoslavia is possible.


Okay thats fine I am going to leave Yugoslavia then up to someone else and app as Mexico so if you can reserve that, please.
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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:08 am

Greater Liverpool wrote:
Monsone wrote:
The point of divergence is 1950. Unless Tito (or whoever is leading this nation) wants war with the Eastern Bloc and later the Warsaw Pact, such a nation will not be able to exist. Albania was already paranoid of everyone and everything by 1950 and Romania was having it's own troubles at the same time. Greece has already been taken by a player, and I don't think Bulgaria would willingly join either.

The only way to form such a nation is by war. That is going to to not end well. Furthermore, I should note the USSR remained Stalinist in this timeline, so a very pro-Western but non-aliged Yugoslavia is possible.


Okay thats fine I am going to leave Yugoslavia then up to someone else and app as Mexico so if you can reserve that, please.


Sure. Your reservantion on Mexico lasts one week (as is standard per all other reservations).
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Postby Chewion » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:34 am

Union Princes wrote:You guys need to start writing in paragraphs, its in the rules. Three sentences just won't do.

Yes please
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Postby Monsone » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:36 am

Chewion wrote:
Union Princes wrote:You guys need to start writing in paragraphs, its in the rules. Three sentences just won't do.

Yes please

It's in the rules. Any violation of the rules counts against you. After three violations you will be removed from the RP for being a repeat offender.
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Postby Nazeroth » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:37 am

for my Communist colombia application, what would be a good GDP/population growth rate and military size/budget %?
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Postby Monsone » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:48 am

Nazeroth wrote:for my Communist colombia application, what would be a good GDP/population growth rate and military size/budget %?

I don't know.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:51 pm

Monsone wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:for my Communist colombia application, what would be a good GDP/population growth rate and military size/budget %?

I don't know.

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