[Interest] Potential Star Trek RP Discussion

[Rupudska]

Looks like it'll be Dominion War in any case! Fun times. I don't think we'll go off on a Miranda class since I want this to last a bit more than two posts, maybe a Galaxy or some sort of refit. At this time, unsure.

If it's set during or around the time of the Dominion War, a Sovereign-class like the Ent-E would be an option, though obviously not the Big E itself. Especially since most of the Sovereigns weren't involved in the war directly, because FC came out halfway through DS9 The fancy movie model and sets were probably too expensive for the TV series Starfleet wanted to do everything in its power to keep Picard from going "FUCK THE BORG" and charging off Starfleet needed as shiny and fancy a cruise liner battlecruiser for diplomatic missions as possible in such a dangerous period for itself, and most/all the Galaxy-class ships were busy shooting at the Dominion.

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

Yes, looks like my comms character is a go!

Looks like it'll be Dominion War in any case! Fun times. I don't think we'll go off on a Miranda class since I want this to last a bit more than two posts, maybe a Galaxy or some sort of refit. At this time, unsure.

If it's set during or around the time of the Dominion War, a Sovereign-class like the Ent-E would be an option, though obviously not the Big E itself. Especially since most of the Sovereigns weren't involved in the war directly, because FC came out halfway through DS9 The fancy movie model and sets were probably too expensive for the TV series Starfleet wanted to do everything in its power to keep Picard from going "FUCK THE BORG" and charging off Starfleet needed as shiny and fancy a cruise liner battlecruiser for diplomatic missions as possible in such a dangerous period for itself, and most/all the Galaxy-class ships were busy shooting at the Dominion.

I sorta love the idea of having it set aboard a Miranda, just because as soon as everyone gets done posting their really detailed and thought-out character introductions, there'd be a massive warp core breach and we'd have to pack up the thread after two pages. That's pretty amusing, and also probably an accurate representation of the lifespan of anyone serving on a Miranda.

Jokes aside, I'd recommend either having an Akira-class or a Yeager-class as the main setting. I mean, we've already seen what life aboard a Galaxy-class is like, and we've gotten to know most other Dominion-War-era ships (like the Sovereigns, Intrepids, Defiants, and Excelsiors) at least decently well.

Everybody loves the Akira-class, and yet she hasn't really been explored all that well in alpha-canon. Having a setting that's halfway between the battleship feel of a Sovereign or a Defiant and the luxury cruise liner feel of the Galaxy sounds like a pretty decent compromise.

But I'm still holding out hope for a Yeager-centric RP, because she's just such a mess that every time anything happens, someone would have to crank-start the warp core or she'd blow up!

[Rupudska]

Jokes aside, I'd recommend either having an Akira-class or a Yeager-class as the main setting. I mean, we've already seen what life aboard a Galaxy-class is like, and we've gotten to know most other Dominion-War-era ships (like the Sovereigns, Intrepids, Defiants, and Excelsiors) at least decently well.

Everybody loves the Akira-class, and yet she hasn't really been explored all that well in alpha-canon. Having a setting that's halfway between the battleship feel of a Sovereign or a Defiant and the luxury cruise liner feel of the Galaxy sounds like a pretty decent compromise.

But I'm still holding out hope for a Yeager-centric RP, because she's just such a mess that every time anything happens, someone would have to crank-start the warp core or she'd blow up!

Honestly if you're playing comms you might want to hope for an Akira-class. The Akiras were the "guys Star Trek totally doesn't have carriers even though that's just an excuse to cheap out on models, but anyway here's a carrier" ship, and unless flight control is a different post on a Starfleet ship, that responsibility would probably fall to comms.

[Morrdh]

Jokes aside, I'd recommend either having an Akira-class or a Yeager-class as the main setting. I mean, we've already seen what life aboard a Galaxy-class is like, and we've gotten to know most other Dominion-War-era ships (like the Sovereigns, Intrepids, Defiants, and Excelsiors) at least decently well.

Everybody loves the Akira-class, and yet she hasn't really been explored all that well in alpha-canon. Having a setting that's halfway between the battleship feel of a Sovereign or a Defiant and the luxury cruise liner feel of the Galaxy sounds like a pretty decent compromise.

But I'm still holding out hope for a Yeager-centric RP, because she's just such a mess that every time anything happens, someone would have to crank-start the warp core or she'd blow up!

Honestly if you're playing comms you might want to hope for an Akira-class. The Akiras were the "guys Star Trek totally doesn't have carriers even though that's just an excuse to cheap out on models, but anyway here's a carrier" ship, and unless flight control is a different post on a Starfleet ship, that responsibility would probably fall to comms.

Believe the Curry type is meant to be a carrier....

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Curry_type

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTbmCMAwhLo

[Rupudska]

Honestly if you're playing comms you might want to hope for an Akira-class. The Akiras were the "guys Star Trek totally doesn't have carriers even though that's just an excuse to cheap out on models, but anyway here's a carrier" ship, and unless flight control is a different post on a Starfleet ship, that responsibility would probably fall to comms.

Believe the Curry type is meant to be a carrier....

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Curry_type

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTbmCMAwhLo

With how much info there is on that class, I doubt it.

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

Believe the Curry type is meant to be a carrier....

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Curry_type

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTbmCMAwhLo

With how much info there is on that class, I doubt it.

I mean, a secondary hull like that isn't just for the warp core.

But there's just inherently more honor in serving aboard a gorgeous Akira than a... less-gorgeous Curry. Besides, from the Truth or Myth video, the Curry just looks like a cannibalized Excelsior.

[Morrdh]

With how much info there is on that class, I doubt it.

I mean, a secondary hull like that isn't just for the warp core.

But there's just inherently more honor in serving aboard a gorgeous Akira than a... less-gorgeous Curry. Besides, from the Truth or Myth video, the Curry just looks like a cannibalized Excelsior.

It is, basically a carrier made from recycled Excelsior bits.

Theres also the Centaur which is suppose to be the Miranda counterpart to the Excelsior.

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

I mean, a secondary hull like that isn't just for the warp core.

But there's just inherently more honor in serving aboard a gorgeous Akira than a... less-gorgeous Curry. Besides, from the Truth or Myth video, the Curry just looks like a cannibalized Excelsior.

It is, basically a carrier made from recycled Excelsior bits.

Theres also the Centaur which is suppose to be the Miranda counterpart to the Excelsior.

Yeah. I do recommend steering away from settings we've already seen in Trek (Excelsiors, Constitutions, Galaxies, and the ships made from their recycled parts). A fresh setting will spice things up, which is why I support the Akira-class.

The first time I saw a Curry on screen, I literally thought it was an Excelsior that had gotten the crap beaten out of it so badly it had changed shape.

(I also withdraw my Yeager idea, begrudgingly)

[Rupudska]

It is, basically a carrier made from recycled Excelsior bits.

Theres also the Centaur which is suppose to be the Miranda counterpart to the Excelsior.

Yeah. I do recommend steering away from settings we've already seen in Trek (Excelsiors, Constitutions, Galaxies, and the ships made from their recycled parts). A fresh setting will spice things up, which is why I support the Akira-class.

The first time I saw a Curry on screen, I literally thought it was an Excelsior that had gotten the crap beaten out of it so badly it had changed shape.

(I also withdraw my Yeager idea, begrudgingly)

Outdated as it'd be, I unironically want to see some Ambassadors. It's basically a Connie, but sexier.

[Bredtonia]

A refit Ambassador had actually been my first thought, given its close-to-galaxy size and slightly different nature. That said, both the Akira and the Yeager look like a lot of fun for different reasons. One leads to a more clean & prime operation, the other a more "well, it works" operation.

I think they all can support the game in their own way - and our particular vessel can have its own share of history and quirks that give it personality.

[Morrdh]

Excalibur class is another option, basically updated Connie.

https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Excalibur_class

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

A refit Ambassador had actually been my first thought, given its close-to-galaxy size and slightly different nature. That said, both the Akira and the Yeager look like a lot of fun for different reasons. One leads to a more clean & prime operation, the other a more "well, it works" operation.

I think they all can support the game in their own way - and our particular vessel can have its own share of history and quirks that give it personality.

Trek ships do need more of their own unique "personalities" to make them, well, characters.

Maybe the setting could be a haughty Akira who needs her targeting scanners recalibrated every few days, or else she just locks up in combat. Maybe an Ambassador who doesn't shoot too well, but always manages to keep a little bit of juice in the shields when needed to keep the crew alive. Or a Yeager who is a bit unpredictable at the helm like a feisty horse, so every warp jump is always a few AU off. Or even a Sovereign whose EPS systems have seen a few too many overloads during combat, so every so often the power simply fades away for a while.

Adds a bit of spice to the story, plus personifies the starship a bit more, which is always good for a story.

Excalibur class is another option, basically updated Connie.

https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Excalibur_class

It says there that they were "commissioned in 2391 by Starfleet", so not really an option for the Dominion War.

I would suggest maybe having an actual Connie pulled out of mothballs for patrol duty, maybe, but I think every Constitution besides the Enterprise-A bit the dust at some point before the Dominion War. Plus my "new setting" argument.

[Ameriganastan]

If we're talking ships, the Oberth class is sadly underused. I always thought it looked cool.

[Earthbound Immortal Squad]

Sounds like a good idea. personally I'd be interested in any TNG/DS9 era. Not fussed about if it were NX era or TOS era though.

[Rupudska]

I mean, a secondary hull like that isn't just for the warp core.

But there's just inherently more honor in serving aboard a gorgeous Akira than a... less-gorgeous Curry. Besides, from the Truth or Myth video, the Curry just looks like a cannibalized Excelsior.

It is, basically a carrier made from recycled Excelsior bits.

Theres also the Centaur which is suppose to be the Miranda counterpart to the Excelsior.

Maybe, but the Excelsior is fugly almost as outdated as the Connies.

[Bredtonia]

An Oberth or Nova is going to give a very different feel of game from a Sovergin or Akira. They could all be good games, but very different types, particularly when it comes to casualties, resources, and how to react to enemy vessels.

For those who may need some size context.

[Ameriganastan]

An Oberth or Nova is going to give a very different feel of game from a Sovergin or Akira. They could all be good games, but very different types, particularly when it comes to casualties, resources, and how to react to enemy vessels.

For those who may need some size context.

Oh. Did not know the Oberth was that small.

[Rupudska]

An Oberth or Nova is going to give a very different feel of game from a Sovergin or Akira. They could all be good games, but very different types, particularly when it comes to casualties, resources, and how to react to enemy vessels.

For those who may need some size context.

Oh. Did not know the Oberth was that small.

At least a few of those seem very, very fake.

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

Oh. Did not know the Oberth was that small.

At least a few of those seem very, very fake.

I had to a double-take on some of those ship designs.

Kelvin? Todega? Bunker Hill? Intimidator? Well, at least the Yeager doesn't seem like Starfleet's biggest mess anymore.

Either way, the Oberth certainly seems pretty cramped and tiny. And they were also incredibly destructible, so we didn't really see them past that one cameo in Generations. Probably for the best, you don't really want to put your officers on a glass ship in the middle of a war.

If it ever served in the war, it was probably a scout ship mounted with some kind of uber-powerful sensors.

[Kaledoria]

I'd love to play in a Star Trek story.

Depending on the level of exoticness you'd like, I could be a Human (Former Pro-Federation Activist on a human planet dancing on the edge of Federation compliance (and -membership) since it's colonization int he early 23rd century), Tellarite (a xenophile nerd, joker and rather casual officer but an organization genius), Deltan (an motherly figure with a strong understanding of ESP) or ... a Nausicaan (Freelance reporter, turned political refugee, turned Starfleet Officer, a very rare sight indeet). I don't think I could do the captain but maybe the XO or some Lower Deck character who steps up when someone else becomes unavailable.

Edit: Or ... hear me out ... a Chameleonid. Not just because Martia in Star Trek VI was one of the best side characters in Star Trek history but it would also be funny to pose as a Changeling in front of some Jem'Hadar.

[Bredtonia]

Oh. Did not know the Oberth was that small.

At least a few of those seem very, very fake.

Oh yeah, some of these are definitely fan hack-jobs, but it was the best picture I could find in short order that had most of the previously mentioned classes on it. It's just with a bunch of types being thrown around, I wanted to give some idea of how they compare in terms of displacement. This might also prove to be a useful list for figuring out what ship to use.

I suppose the two big outstanding questions that lead into that are:
- Do we want to be in the thick of the war or on the outskirts of it?
- Do we want to be the big fish?

[Morrdh]

At least a few of those seem very, very fake.

Oh yeah, some of these are definitely fan hack-jobs, but it was the best picture I could find in short order that had most of the previously mentioned classes on it. It's just with a bunch of types being thrown around, I wanted to give some idea of how they compare in terms of displacement. This might also prove to be a useful list for figuring out what ship to use.

I suppose the two big outstanding questions that lead into that are:
- Do we want to be in the thick of the war or on the outskirts of it?
- Do we want to be the big fish?

Fair number of Excelisors.

EDIT: Worth watching; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-u-Ca8aneA

[La Paz de Los Ricos]

Oh yeah, some of these are definitely fan hack-jobs, but it was the best picture I could find in short order that had most of the previously mentioned classes on it. It's just with a bunch of types being thrown around, I wanted to give some idea of how they compare in terms of displacement. This might also prove to be a useful list for figuring out what ship to use.

I suppose the two big outstanding questions that lead into that are:
- Do we want to be in the thick of the war or on the outskirts of it?
- Do we want to be the big fish?

Wouldn't exactly call them "hack-jobs", at least a fair number of the non-canon designs seem like there was definitely effort and care put into them.

But back on track, most of those questions depend on OP. I mean, ship class and details are things we can come to a decision on as a group, but the stories are gonna heavily depend on where the ship is deployed and what her mission at the time is.

Either way, we've come to a decision about the time-period, what's left is deciding on the ship and the general ratio of combat-to-non-combat missions (whether the story should focus more on exploration or on the war itself). Perhaps it's time we suggest our final ideas on ships and hold a poll on it?

[Ormata]

Big issue there is that I'll be unable to be online for several months in the near (less than a week's time) future.

[Grenartia]

I've been toying with the idea of doing a Romulan War RP for about 2 years, but haven't felt confident as an OP. Would totally be down to join this, even if it isn't RW-focused.