Point of Divergence 3.0 : The Return (OOC / AH / OPEN)

[Union Princes]

Looking at the map, I guess I'll do the Combined Syndicates of America from Kaiserreich and take the rest of the continental US

You're in for a fun time. You got Nazi Zombies in Canada, the anti-communist USA in the East, and a Texas empire in the West.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Looking at the map, I guess I'll do the Combined Syndicates of America from Kaiserreich and take the rest of the continental US

You're in for a fun time. You got Nazi Zombies in Canada, the anti-communist USA in the East, and a Texas empire in the West.

That sounds fun

Though now I'm debating on either the CSA or HYDRA

[Union Princes]

I think we got enough Nazis to deal with. Given we got the zombies and genocidal Russia. I think you can do the CSA.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

I think we got enough Nazis to deal with. Given we got the zombies and genocidal Russia. I think you can do the CSA.

Aight

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Real shape that Michigan's already been taken though, gonna have to find a new capital for the revolution

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

I can't decide which flag I should use, what do you guys think?
Black and Red-flag with traditional Syndicalist colours

Same flag but with more traditional US colours

Flag organised more along the lines of the normal US flag

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I think we got enough Nazis to deal with. Given we got the zombies and genocidal Russia. I think you can do the CSA.

Not to mention Europa.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Full Nation Name: Commonwealth of America
Short Nation Name: CSA (referring to original Combined Syndicates of America)
Flag/National Symbols:
CSA Flag


National Flag

Government Type: Syndicalist Federal Republic
Official Political Ideology: Syndicalism
Head of State: Herbert C. Holdridge
Head of Government: Herbert C. Holdridge
Government Description: The CSA parallels the original pre-civil war US Government at multiple points. At its core is the legislature, the "Continental Congress of the Working Class" (more simply known as the Worker's Congress). A bicameral legislature with two houses, the House of Unions and the House of Industries. In the former, representatives from the various Bourse du Travail of the nation converge here to debate and pass legislation, the number of representatives determined by both population and number of Syndicates inside the Bourse du Travail, and with representatives elected directly by the local unions and syndicates. In the other, the House of Industries, it is the various National Industry Federations here that confer and discuss matters to pass legislation, with each National Federation, no matter its size or importance, possessing two representatives and therefore two votes. In both the Industrial Democratic Committee oversee, coordinate and help mediate the various processes and discussions that take part in these two respective legislative bodies. It is because of this legislative power and the nature of these bodies that the IDC also looks over the wider economic organisation of the nation as well, helping to coordinate the various National Federations in working together and help organise the nation.

The other branches of government -the executive and the judicial- work very much in similar ways to the previous US government too, with the legislative branch passing legislation, the executive executing legislation, and the judicial judging whether the actions of either branch are considered constitutional and beneficial for both the working class and the rest of the general population. There is one key difference however between the CSA and the previous USA, that is the president is directly elected by the people rather than by a small group in the Electoral College, finally putting power to decide leaders in the hands of people instead of a small group of the elite.

Territory: Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, rest of North and South Dakota, rest of Michigan
Territorial Ambitions: Entirety of the USA
Capital City: Chicago
Population : 58,714,792

Majority/Official Culture: American

Majority/State Religion: Protestant/Secular

Major Industries/Economic sectors: Consumer goods, industrial machinery, resource production (eg: steel), armament manufacturing (tanks, firearms, planes, etc), vehicle manufacturing
Amount of Industrialization: The nation is composed of a region nicknamed the "Steel Belt," you guess how industrialised it is.
Economic Description: The Commonwealth adheres to an economic policy called "Syndicalism with American Characteristics." Unlike the usual Syndicalist doctrine of a completely planned command economy, it follows doctrines of Georgism and Mutualism, allowing for local businesses and unions within the country to plan and control their prices within a market. There are still unions and syndicates that adhere to the will of the working class, but these just have the option to adjust production and prices depending on supply and demand. One might say that since in this type of market there would technically be "private" businesses made up of independent workers and therefore still be Capitalist, it's still stretching it a bit since the option of government intervention (as the Syndicates compose a large part of the government anyway) is still there.

As to the organisation of the economy, at the lowest levels are the typical local unions and syndicates, the types you'd see representing several businesses or a factory in a local area. They are then organised under a Bourse du Travail, who help coordinate and organise economic collaboration between the various unions and syndicates, as well as oversees general governmental economic enforcement. They, in simple terms, represent the Federal government's hand on a local level for economic purposes and act as regional representatives for a particular area. And on the national levels are the National Industry Federations, which are groupings of Syndicates (regardless of geography) based on the industry they belong to. It's here that the efforts of syndicates on a national level are represented, coordinated and overseen nationwide, as well as where data is taken from the different syndicates and given to both the federal government and the local syndicates. The level of autonomy for the local syndicates varies depending on the industry: for example, the railroad industry might see the national railroad system be overall centralised and planned by a National Federation, where it'd be different in an industry for a consumer good.

Technological Level: 1960s
Magic and other shenanigans?: N/A

Military Description
Being one of the vanguards of the revolution and surrounded on multiple sides by enemies necessitates a strong military force in order to act as both a deterrent and a tool of expansion, a role that the Commonwealth Armed Forces (CAF) most definitely fill the criteria of. The CSA's vast industrial complex means that the CAF has a mass abundance of military equipment, and cooperation with foreign powers, as well as a well-educated population, means that there is no shortage when it comes to the development of new and advanced weapons, bringing the CAF into the forefront of military technology. The CAF adheres extensively to that of meritocracy and retains an extremely rigorous training programme, creating an army of very well trained soldiers and making sure that only the best and most intuitive are there to lead them. The social policies of the CSA are perhaps most clearly seen in the CSA, as both race and gender equality are upheld as key values in the military, with the appearance of coloured and female soldiers being a common sight.

When the main branches of the CAF are not enough, however, the CSA also has the Continental Army. Inherited from the Civil War, the Continental Army is most similar to the National Guard of the old US, composed of a system of both reserve forces and local militias that take part in both military and civilian exercises. Often considered a sort of early stepping stone before joining the army, the Continental Army can be raised during times of national emergency in order to bring up a new army of militias made up of patriotic men and women willing to fight and die fanatically for the commonwealth.

Another rather notable trait of the CAF is the appearance of Political Commissars. Somewhat resembling military police, they're tasked with making sure the CAF remains, first and foremost, a force devoted to the protection of both the revolution and the working class. Educating the soldiery in the wonders of the ideology they're fighting for to raise morale and seeking out any potential dissidents or conspirators against the Syndicalist revolution, they remain a key part of the CAF.

Army: Out of all the branches, the People's Liberation Army is probably both the most rigorously trained and well lead branch in the armed forces, furthermore regarded as one of the finest and toughest in the world. This is in part due to its origins, as most of the men who'd come to form the nucleus of both the regular army and the military leadership during and after the civil war were members of the US Marine Corps: one of the few institutions in the pre-civil war US Armed Forces not neglected by the corrupt capitalist gang. With a proud military tradition, the PLA truly produces some of the finest soldiers and leaders that any military could hope for.
-1.5 Million Soldiers
-5000x MBTs

Navy: Though the CSA is no longer has the full naval industrial might that the US once possessed, or even the Pacific States currently possesses, its role as a major figure in spreading the global revolution and its bases of operation such as the Syndicalist Philippines or the front in Africa means that the People's Liberation Navy is far from being neglected at all. A rival to even the Union of Britain's own naval prowess, she remains at the forefront of the global effort to liberate foreign lands under the hammer and torch.
-15x Battleships
-18x Aircraft Carriers
-40x Cruisers
-181x Destroyers
-34x Diesel Submarines
-45x Nuclear Submarines

Air Force:


National Goals: Continue the global Syndicalist revolution and fight injustice against the working class, no matter the place.


History : (At least 1 solid paragraph)


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[Mirial System]

I can't decide which flag I should use, what do you guys think?
Black and Red-flag with traditional Syndicalist colours

Same flag but with more traditional US colours

Flag organised more along the lines of the normal US flag

I personally like #3, but that's me.

[Democratic East-Asia]

I can't decide which flag I should use, what do you guys think?
Black and Red-flag with traditional Syndicalist colours

Same flag but with more traditional US colours

Flag organised more along the lines of the normal US flag

I personally like #3, but that's me.

Same. #3 seems the least cluttered to me.

Also, I do suggest Chicago as a capital. It's always been the traditional heart of America's labor movements, and its centralized location is pretty neat.

[Fenvaria Republic]

Well, this should be interesting. Wonder how the fens are going to react to this, alas I need to get a post up about them scouting more and stuff.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

I personally like #3, but that's me.

Same. #3 seems the least cluttered to me.

Also, I do suggest Chicago as a capital. It's always been the traditional heart of America's labor movements, and its centralized location is pretty neat.

Hmm, it shall do until Detroit is reclaimed.

[Alaroma]

Same. #3 seems the least cluttered to me.

Also, I do suggest Chicago as a capital. It's always been the traditional heart of America's labor movements, and its centralized location is pretty neat.

Hmm, it shall do until Detroit is reclaimed.

Texas is willing to cooperate with you. Also I wouldn’t really suggest that, it would be toxic.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hmm, it shall do until Detroit is reclaimed.

Texas is willing to cooperate with you. Also I wouldn’t really suggest that, it would be toxic.

It’s more a matter of principle than anything else.

Also, aren’t you anti-communist?

[Democratic East-Asia]

Same. #3 seems the least cluttered to me.

Also, I do suggest Chicago as a capital. It's always been the traditional heart of America's labor movements, and its centralized location is pretty neat.

Hmm, it shall do until Detroit is reclaimed.

Hah, Detroit. Honestly I generally always go with Chicago. Detroit's cool for the auto industry but other than that the IWW and everyone else centers in Chicago (which is also a much larger rail junction).

[Alaroma]

Texas is willing to cooperate with you. Also I wouldn’t really suggest that, it would be toxic.

It’s more a matter of principle than anything else.

Also, aren’t you anti-communist?

I am, but there’s two caveats to that. One, there are far bigger problems in the world than communism rn. Two, Texas literally has a socialist party in its Legislature. It matters more if Socialists were willing to cooperate with us rather than the USSR. Spoiler alert, there is no USSR anymore.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hmm, it shall do until Detroit is reclaimed.

Hah, Detroit. Honestly I generally always go with Chicago. Detroit's cool for the auto industry but other than that the IWW and everyone else centers in Chicago (which is also a much larger rail junction).

Oh, wait, my mistake, I thought that the capital of the CSA in Kaiserreich was Detroit .

I haven’t played it in a while tbh, and when I do play the US I usually pick the American Union State (“EVERY MAN A KING!”).

Mostly been playing “The New Order” recently.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

It’s more a matter of principle than anything else.

Also, aren’t you anti-communist?

I am, but there’s two caveats to that. One, there are far bigger problems in the world than communism rn. Two, Texas literally has a socialist party in its Legislature. It matters more if Socialists were willing to cooperate with us rather than the USSR. Spoiler alert, there is no USSR anymore.

We talking regular socialists right? Because we’re Syndicalists and, y’know, in Kaiserreich mainstream Leninist socialism was a failure and all that.

I don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA though.

[Alaroma]

I am, but there’s two caveats to that. One, there are far bigger problems in the world than communism rn. Two, Texas literally has a socialist party in its Legislature. It matters more if Socialists were willing to cooperate with us rather than the USSR. Spoiler alert, there is no USSR anymore.

We talking regular socialists right? Because we’re Syndicalists and, y’know, in Kaiserreich mainstream Leninist socialism was a failure and all that.

I don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA though.

Well other forms of leftism like Syndicalism are less hated in Texas. That said, Texas rn is mostly looking out for its resources best interests and your conflict isn’t of massive consequence to us. What matters is our supply to water, among other things. Hence our colonial efforts in Canada rn. Used to be in your lands as well.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Hah, Detroit. Honestly I generally always go with Chicago. Detroit's cool for the auto industry but other than that the IWW and everyone else centers in Chicago (which is also a much larger rail junction).

Oh, wait, my mistake, I thought that the capital of the CSA in Kaiserreich was Detroit .

I haven’t played it in a while tbh, and when I do play the US I usually pick the American Union State (“EVERY MAN A KING!”).

Mostly been playing “The New Order” recently.

Haha. No problem man, it happens.

[Democratic East-Asia]

BTW all players (who've already apped): We will give you 5 more days to finish up initial posts / catch up! After that we're moving on to week 2 and later.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

We talking regular socialists right? Because we’re Syndicalists and, y’know, in Kaiserreich mainstream Leninist socialism was a failure and all that.

I don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA though.

Well other forms of leftism like Syndicalism are less hated in Texas. That said, Texas rn is mostly looking out for its resources best interests and your conflict isn’t of massive consequence to us. What matters is our supply to water, among other things. Hence our colonial efforts in Canada rn. Used to be in your lands as well.

Still don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA, I mean they’re basically the US ideologically.

Though I find it to be a missed opportunity that FUSA isn’t a resurgent Enclave tbh.

[Alaroma]

Well other forms of leftism like Syndicalism are less hated in Texas. That said, Texas rn is mostly looking out for its resources best interests and your conflict isn’t of massive consequence to us. What matters is our supply to water, among other things. Hence our colonial efforts in Canada rn. Used to be in your lands as well.

Still don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA, I mean they’re basically the US ideologically.

Though I find it to be a missed opportunity that FUSA isn’t a resurgent Enclave tbh.

Cause I’m not trying to take sides? I want normal relations. Also something tells me you’d probably prefer me not take sides actively with him. Though I don’t really have intentions of taking sides rn.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Still don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA, I mean they’re basically the US ideologically.

Though I find it to be a missed opportunity that FUSA isn’t a resurgent Enclave tbh.

Cause I’m not trying to take sides? I want normal relations. Also something tells me you’d probably prefer me not take sides actively with him. Though I don’t really have intentions of taking sides rn.

Obviously not, just confused concerning where you lie ideologically.

Do be warned that the CSA does have a bit of that whole “world revolution” ethos. But as long as you treat your workers fine and don’t be unnecessarily aggressive, you should be fine.

Especially since realpolitik declares that a 60 million man Cold War era commune would not win against a Post-Modern Tech 200 million man empire.

[Greater Redosia]

Well other forms of leftism like Syndicalism are less hated in Texas. That said, Texas rn is mostly looking out for its resources best interests and your conflict isn’t of massive consequence to us. What matters is our supply to water, among other things. Hence our colonial efforts in Canada rn. Used to be in your lands as well.

Still don’t see why you’d side with me over FUSA, I mean they’re basically the US ideologically.

Though I find it to be a missed opportunity that FUSA isn’t a resurgent Enclave tbh.

Enclave is big gae. In all honesty, everyone can go with Enclave, but to me that's boring. I prefer what I got here, since it allows me to have Ghouls and other people of that sorts. Along with having more leeway with things, especially since in what I based this off of the Enclave sorta got boofed pretty damn bad. I did my best with FUSA, and trust me. You trying to come into my lands is a stupid idea. The radiation will kill you along with the animals of these wastelands.

It's also going to be awkward when we suddenly find ourselves no longer in the wasteland and instead inside some nation when we try to take the water.