Apocalypse: 1936 (PT/OOC/OPEN)

[Dahyan]

We really need the OP to weigh in on this issue.

[Domerstresseistan]

The reinforcements will be coming later, the purpose of the barrage would be to hold up a counter-offensive and to buy more time, and perhaps drag on the prepared vmindsetof US forces.

With the Artillery that had came out of nowhere? this whole Operation sounds very not legit man, the fact you gave yourself AA, Artillery, Vehicles on there way, and more men coming to add on to your pile of really conveniently available resources.

I wouldn't say conveniently available but immediately available in very limited in numbers since the rest for the frontline would have to still be transported over many miles.

[New Sriker]

We really need the OP to weigh in on this issue.

Indeed, or the Co-OP

[New Sriker]

With the Artillery that had came out of nowhere? this whole Operation sounds very not legit man, the fact you gave yourself AA, Artillery, Vehicles on there way, and more men coming to add on to your pile of really conveniently available resources.

I wouldn't say conveniently available but immediately available in very limited in numbers since the rest for the frontline would have to still be transported over many miles.

Your Original attack force was 6,000 men and some AA guns against 5,000 Red Guard, 1,500 FOI, and 300 Partisans, then you started adding onto your attack force, which for a matter of a fact, is super sus, you could have just allowed the battle to happen, but you added onto your force trying to gain an advantage. So yes it's all very convenient for you.

[Wasi State]

Domer, keep in mind that your units will be pretty slowed down speed wise if they're having to carry a lot of heavier equipment into positions on foot up hilly terrain, unless you have a plethora of motorized vehicles to help tow them quickly into place. But even still that'll require more coordination and time to pull off properly, proper use of roads and clearings so you don't get bogged down in unsuitable terrain. There's a lot from just a logistics standpoint you need to factor in and address in your posts, Montana is big, and isn't ideal for moving armies over a short period of time in a hurry. Also do your men have a coordinated radio network?

[Cokoland]

Imagine living in the past

-this post was made by 2020 gang

[Domerstresseistan]

Domer, keep in mind that your units will be pretty slowed down speed wise if they're having to carry a lot of heavier equipment into positions on foot up hilly terrain, unless you have a plethora of motorized vehicles to help tow them quickly into place. But even still that'll require more coordination and time to pull off properly, proper use of roads and clearings so you don't get bogged down in unsuitable terrain. There's a lot from just a logistics standpoint you need to factor in and address in your posts, Montana is big, and isn't ideal for moving armies over a short period of time in a hurry. Also do your men have a coordinated radio network?

A coordinated radio network over a secure frequency, yes, with encrypted messages.

[New Sriker]

Imagine living in the past

-this post was made by 2020 gang

Destroyed with facts and Logic

[Wasi State]

Domer, keep in mind that your units will be pretty slowed down speed wise if they're having to carry a lot of heavier equipment into positions on foot up hilly terrain, unless you have a plethora of motorized vehicles to help tow them quickly into place. But even still that'll require more coordination and time to pull off properly, proper use of roads and clearings so you don't get bogged down in unsuitable terrain. There's a lot from just a logistics standpoint you need to factor in and address in your posts, Montana is big, and isn't ideal for moving armies over a short period of time in a hurry. Also do your men have a coordinated radio network?

A coordinated radio network over a secure frequency, yes, with encrypted messages.

Okay, well in regards to avoid anymore confusion, I request that you create a ORBAT of your forces in Montana. And specify their locations as well.

I would recommend everyone, including myself does the same too that's participating in the situation with military forces.

[New Sriker]

A coordinated radio network over a secure frequency, yes, with encrypted messages.

Okay, well in regards to avoid anymore confusion, I request that you create a ORBAT of your forces in Montana. And specify their locations as well.

I would recommend everyone, including myself does the same too that's participating in the situation with military forces.

The 6th "Frontier Guard" Red Guard (5,000 men, North and South Dakota's Red Guard) all are at Billings

10th “Spartacus” Red Guard (7,000 men, Nebraska and Kansas Red Guard) 500 in forsyth, rest in Miles City

The Montana Revolutionary Brigade (500 men, 300 in Billings, 200 in Miles City)

Then there is the Forsyth Militia which is 250 Men, those men will be in OP's control and About 35 Armored cars in Miles

[Union Princes]

Here's a map of Montana, where is Long's army supposed to meet up with the NRA?

[New Sriker]

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Here's a map of Montana, where is Long's army supposed to meet up with the NRA?

Big Timber would be an easy location to push to for the Eastern and Western Groups, then from there we push to Helena and establish a solid frontline with Montana National Guard and hopefully soon, US Army troops.

[Union Princes]

Alright, I'll meet you there at Big Timber

[Wasi State]

This will serve as a mega post for troop numbers and units of forces present in Montana in the Summer of 1936. ORBAT will be added to this as I edit them in, and I'll link it under the Rosters on the first page of the OOC.

ORBAT: Federal Forces present in Montana, circa Summer of 1936

Theater Commander: Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Federalized Army National Guard Divisions:
34th Infantry “Red Bulls” ~10,000 Men -Arriving through the North Dakota Border
35th Infantry "Santa Fe Division" ~7,500 Men -Arriving through the North Dakota Border
38th Infantry "Cyclone" ~7,500 Men -Arriving through the South Dakota Border

~25,000 Men Total

State National Guard Units:

Montana National Guard ~10,000 Men -Defending Helena and surrounding area. Several smaller units scattered all around the state.

Wyoming National Guard ~3,500 Men -Securing Bozeman and Crow Reservation

North Dakota National Guard ~7,500 Men -Securing the Northeast Border of the state, awaiting Federal Reinforcements

South Dakota National Guard ~3,000 Men -Securing the Southeast Border of the state, awaiting Federal Reinforcements

~23,000 Men Total

~48,000 Federal Troops committed to the Montana Campaign.

The 6th "Frontier Guard" Red Guard (5,000 men, North and South Dakota's Red Guard)

10th “Spartacus” Red Guard (7,000 men, Nebraska and Kansas Red Guard)

The Montana Revolutionary Brigade (500 men, 300 in Billings, 200, in Miles City)

13,000 Men Total

First Volunteer Brigade "Toussaint Louverture," 1,500 Men, located in Billings.

1,500 Men Total

[New Sriker]

This will serve as a mega post for troop numbers and units of forces present in Montana in the Summer of 1936. ORBAT will be added to this as I edit them in, and I'll link it under the Rosters on the first page of the OOC.

ORBAT: Federal Forces present in Montana, circa Summer of 1936

Theater Commander: Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Federalized Army National Guard Divisions:
34th Infantry “Red Bulls” ~10,000 Men -Arriving through the North Dakota Border
35th Infantry "Santa Fe Division" ~7,500 Men -Arriving through the North Dakota Border
38th Infantry "Cyclone" ~7,500 Men -Arriving through the South Dakota Border

~25,000 Men Total

State National Guard Units:

Montana National Guard ~10,000 Men -Defending Helena and surrounding area. Several smaller units scattered all around the state.

Wyoming National Guard ~3,500 Men -Securing Bozeman and Crow Reservation

North Dakota National Guard ~7,500 Men -Securing the Northeast Border of the state, awaiting Federal Reinforcements

South Dakota National Guard ~3,000 Men -Securing the Southeast Border of the state, awaiting Federal Reinforcements

~23,000 Men Total

~48,000 Federal Troops committed to the Montana Campaign.

The 6th "Frontier Guard" Red Guard (5,000 men, North and South Dakota's Red Guard)

10th “Spartacus” Red Guard (7,000 men, Nebraska and Kansas Red Guard)

The Montana Revolutionary Brigade (500 men, 300 in Billings, 200, in Miles City)

13,000 Men Total

Are any Feds able to come and Help the forces in Billings , plus how long would my men have to hold out to wait for air support?

[Wasi State]

This will serve as a mega post for troop numbers and units of forces present in Montana in the Summer of 1936. ORBAT will be added to this as I edit them in, and I'll link it under the Rosters on the first page of the OOC.

ORBAT: Federal Forces present in Montana, circa Summer of 1936

Theater Commander: Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Federalized Army National Guard Divisions:
34th Infantry “Red Bulls” ~10,000 Men -Arriving through the North Dakota Border
35th Infantry "Santa Fe Division" ~7,500 Men -Arriving through the North Dakota Border
38th Infantry "Cyclone" ~7,500 Men -Arriving through the South Dakota Border

~25,000 Men Total

State National Guard Units:

Montana National Guard ~10,000 Men -Defending Helena and surrounding area. Several smaller units scattered all around the state.

Wyoming National Guard ~3,500 Men -Securing Bozeman and Crow Reservation

North Dakota National Guard ~7,500 Men -Securing the Northeast Border of the state, awaiting Federal Reinforcements

South Dakota National Guard ~3,000 Men -Securing the Southeast Border of the state, awaiting Federal Reinforcements

~23,000 Men Total

~48,000 Federal Troops committed to the Montana Campaign.

The 6th "Frontier Guard" Red Guard (5,000 men, North and South Dakota's Red Guard)

10th “Spartacus” Red Guard (7,000 men, Nebraska and Kansas Red Guard)

The Montana Revolutionary Brigade (500 men, 300 in Billings, 200, in Miles City)

13,000 Men Total

Are any Feds able to come and Help the forces in Billings , plus how long would my men have to hold out to wait for air support?

The Wyoming and Montana National Guard in the Crow Reservation would be the first response on land near Billings, so some odd 4000 troops at the ready to assist.

The Federal air wings have full coverage of the whole state through the Helena Airbase, CAS and bomber support would could be anywhere in the state within an hour or two I suspect.

[Dahyan]

For the ORBAT list: the Nation of Islam's forces has 1,500 FOI forces in the First Volunteer Brigade "Toussaint Louverture", located in Billings.

[Wasi State]

For the ORBAT list: the Nation of Islam's forces has 1,500 FOI forces in the First Volunteer Brigade "Toussaint Louverture", located in Billings.

Post edited and entry added.

[New Sriker]

Are any Feds able to come and Help the forces in Billings , plus how long would my men have to hold out to wait for air support?

The Wyoming and Montana National Guard in the Crow Reservation would be the first response on land near Billings, so some odd 4000 troops at the ready to assist.

The Federal air wings have full coverage of the whole state through the Helena Airbase, CAS and bomber support would could be anywhere in the state within an hour or two I suspect.

This fight's gonna be fun, hopefully the bombers destroy the Artillery and a decent amount of the Army attacking.

[Spiritual Republic of Caryton]

yeah i def don't have it in me for another post. expect the war stuff to continue tmrw.

[Plzen]

Notice

Since you are not able to arrive at a consensus, people are going back and forth clarifying things that were left ambiguous in a way that advantages them, and accusations of godmodding are going around, I will directly arbitrate the results of the war as the Co-OP of this roleplay.

OP, I’d appreciate you delaying the timeskip to July a bit so that I have some time to work.

Everyone who is involved in the war in Montana, telegram me a report containing:

1. The size, location, and quality of any military units you have that is involved in the war in Montana,
2. The general doctrine of your armed forces and the specific strategy/plan you have for the war in Montana, and
3. Any factors unique to the war in Montana that you believe is advantageous to your side of the war, and how you plan to exploit them.
4. Any weaknesses and disadvantages that you believe your military will suffer, and how you intend to mitigate and overcome them.

I will then make an IC post for what the result of the war is for the month of June.

You may wish to keep in mind that during my arbitration, advantage will go to, in decreasing order of importance,

1. Realism. The side that I think has a more realistic shot at winning will have an advantage, obviously.
2. Detail. The side that gives me a more detailed and carefully considered report will be advantaged; if something is left ambiguous I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. Note, detail doesn’t mean length.
3. Consistency. The side that presents a report that is more consistent with their application and IC post will be advantaged. Pulling out units of capabilities that you didn’t mention before anywhere in your application or IC just for the war will not be looked upon favourably.
4. Plot armour. In the interest of an interesting story and preventing stronger factions from overrunning weaker ones, any faction trying to just overwhelm the enemy with superior numbers/equipment will not be looked upon favourably.

I expect reports in my telegram inbox by this time tomorrow.

[Union Princes]

This is getting in way too complicated. I might have to withdraw

[Wasi State]

This is getting in way too complicated. I might have to withdraw

On the contrary, me and Plzen are just trying to simplify the situation in Montana given the amount of sides present for the sake of everyone. If this doesn't work out we'll obviously go to a new method, but feedback and participation of player present for now will be very welcomed.

[Plzen]

This is getting in way too complicated. I might have to withdraw

I hope this doesn’t turn you away from the RP.

The primary purpose is to prevent players from having to make lots of IC posts because they’re going back-and-forth with another player over some OOC argument. The gold standard to date has been one IC post per IC month, so I’m trying to keep people from a situation where they might need to post more than that.

[New Sriker]

This is getting in way too complicated. I might have to withdraw

The War or RP?