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Wasi State
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Postby Wasi State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:44 pm

Strala wrote:
Wasi State wrote:I'll like to announce that Plzen is now a Co-Op for the RP.

Congrats Plzen! I hope that he will help lighten the burden for the Op, which is you.

It's a natural progression with the RP, it has grown to encompass more than a dozen players, so it only made sense to do it now.
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New Sriker
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Postby New Sriker » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:00 pm

Wasi State wrote:I'll like to announce that Plzen is now a Co-Op for the RP.

Congrats Plzen

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Aserais
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Postby Aserais » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:57 pm

Strala and I are collabing on a post, and there should be some interesting things happening in it after the part in shanghai is done. OP, by this point, this post is gonna have the People's Army cleaning up in Chihuahua and turning their guns on Sonora, is that alright?

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Domerstresseistan
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Postby Domerstresseistan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:03 pm

Post done, looks like Leonidas isn't quite the hungabunga barbarian the US Govt makes him to be.

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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:13 pm

Domerstresseistan wrote:Post done, looks like Leonidas isn't quite the hungabunga barbarian the US Govt makes him to be.


Unfortunately for you, the South has already thrown its lot with Huey Long, Same with Nevada
There is no such thing as peace, only truce between wars

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Postby Domerstresseistan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:17 pm

Union Princes wrote:
Domerstresseistan wrote:Post done, looks like Leonidas isn't quite the hungabunga barbarian the US Govt makes him to be.


Unfortunately for you, the South has already thrown its lot with Huey Long, Same with Nevada


Inb4 South Rises Again

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Wasi State
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Postby Wasi State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:18 pm

Aserais wrote:Strala and I are collabing on a post, and there should be some interesting things happening in it after the part in shanghai is done. OP, by this point, this post is gonna have the People's Army cleaning up in Chihuahua and turning their guns on Sonora, is that alright?

Yeah I've said it earlier before you joined, but anarchic states are definitely up for grabs whenever, the problem is less militarily conquering them, but more maintaining the peace and integrating them afterwards.
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Strala
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Postby Strala » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:21 pm

Wasi State wrote:
Aserais wrote:Strala and I are collabing on a post, and there should be some interesting things happening in it after the part in shanghai is done. OP, by this point, this post is gonna have the People's Army cleaning up in Chihuahua and turning their guns on Sonora, is that alright?

Yeah I've said it earlier before you joined, but anarchic states are definitely up for grabs whenever, the problem is less militarily conquering them, but more maintaining the peace and integrating them afterwards.

Oh really?! Oh crap, I thought it was unconquerable. If that's the case, I should have a considerable amount of support in Yunnan and anarchist regions in South China
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Wasi State
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Postby Wasi State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:27 pm

Strala wrote:
Wasi State wrote:Yeah I've said it earlier before you joined, but anarchic states are definitely up for grabs whenever, the problem is less militarily conquering them, but more maintaining the peace and integrating them afterwards.

Oh really?! Oh crap, I thought it was unconquerable. If that's the case, I should have a considerable amount of support in Yunnan and anarchist regions in South China

Hmm yeah I should make that clearer instead of assuming everyone would know you can just gradually retake the provinces through a bit of effort. I'll edit the OP.
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Postby Aserais » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:31 pm

Posted, and the RSM gave an ultimatum to the USA and the Sonoran Superstate

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Postby Spiritual Republic of Caryton » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:40 pm

I forgot to do this earlier today, but here's a hastily drawn map on what the claim enforcement war on Sonora looks like right now as of the May 4th 1936 post.

edit: The Tijuana reinforcements are with the LHC reinforcements, but more distributed to enforce and defend.
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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:41 pm

Aserais wrote:Posted, and the RSM gave an ultimatum to the USA and the Sonoran Superstate


You know, I was about to celebrate the potential friendship between Huey and Butler but then I read that Mexico is starting to give off expansionism vibes
There is no such thing as peace, only truce between wars

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Postby Strala » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:42 pm

Aserais can I get an exact number of what you supplied to the SDF and the CPC? I'm planning on editing my app and ORBAT later tonight when I'm free.

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Wasi State
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Postby Wasi State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:59 pm

Current map btw. If I missed anything lmk of course.
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Postby Monsone » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:59 pm

Union Princes wrote:
Aserais wrote:Posted, and the RSM gave an ultimatum to the USA and the Sonoran Superstate


You know, I was about to celebrate the potential friendship between Huey and Butler but then I read that Mexico is starting to give off expansionism vibes


The USSR doesn’t like Trotsky, Mexico was partially founded by Trotsky. And some factions in the USA don't like Mexico. I think I can see an opportunity here.
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Strala
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Postby Strala » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:02 pm

Wasi State wrote:Current map btw. If I missed anything lmk of course.

Chongqing should be mine. Before 1997 it a part of Sichuan. Also in my post, I stated that the CSR conquered Hubei and Anhui. I asked if that was good or not, and because you didn't answer I assumed it was allowed. I'm extremely sorry if this sounded rude and unappreciative.

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Postby Strala » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:04 pm

Monsone wrote:
Union Princes wrote:
You know, I was about to celebrate the potential friendship between Huey and Butler but then I read that Mexico is starting to give off expansionism vibes


The USSR doesn’t like Trotsky, Mexico was partially founded by Trotsky. And some factions in the USA don't like Mexico. I think I can see an opportunity here.

The USSR working with even more capitalists? MOAR DENOUNCEMENT!

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Wasi State
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Postby Wasi State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:04 pm

Strala wrote:
Wasi State wrote:Current map btw. If I missed anything lmk of course.

Chongqing should be mine. Before 1997 it a part of Sichuan. Also in my post, I stated that the CSR conquered Hubei and Anhui. I asked if that was good or not, and because you didn't answer I assumed it was allowed. I'm extremely sorry if this sounded rude and unappreciative.

Oh don't worry you're fine, I just completely missed what happened in China, I'll make an edited map now for both OPs.
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Aserais
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Postby Aserais » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm

Strala wrote:Aserais can I get an exact number of what you supplied to the SDF and the CPC? I'm planning on editing my app and ORBAT later tonight when I'm free.


250 Medium tanks
250 Heavy Tanks
300 Fighter Planes, disassembled
150 Bombers, disassembled
150 DC-3 converted cargo planes, disassembled
300 Artillery Pieces, ranging from mortars to 14" guns, disassembled
150,000 Small arms, ranging from service rifles to LMGs
1.5 million units of ammunition
20,000 gallons of gasoline

1st Pacific Carrier Group
ARSM Gloria, Valor-Class Aircraft Carrier, Compliment of 10 Fighters, 5 Dive Bombers, 15 Torpedo Bombers
ARSM Guadalajara, Tempestad-Class Battleship, Four main batteries, three 14" cannons each
ARSM Victoria, Tempestad-Class Battleship
4 Heavy Cruisers
6 Destroyers
12 Patrol Boats
3 Submarines

13th Battalion of the People's Army
20,000 Soldiers

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Monsone
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Postby Monsone » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:08 pm

Strala wrote:
Monsone wrote:
The USSR doesn’t like Trotsky, Mexico was partially founded by Trotsky. And some factions in the USA don't like Mexico. I think I can see an opportunity here.

The USSR working with even more capitalists? MOAR DENOUNCEMENT!


Mexico is imperialist. The USSR is pretty anti-Imperialist. Also, if I can get fancy tech from the capitalists, that certainly is beneficial for the USSR. And since there seems to be no Spanish Flu vaccine in this timeline, creating one would really boost the USSR's prestige and prove that Soviet communisim is best.
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Aserais
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Postby Aserais » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:11 pm

Wasi State wrote:Current map btw. If I missed anything lmk of course.


Mexico conquered the anarchic mexican states, but they're still working on consolidating control there, idk how or if you want to represent that on the map

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Postby Domerstresseistan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:13 pm

Wasi State wrote:Current map btw. If I missed anything lmk of course.


If Montana doesn't work, maybe Yukon or Alaska sounds neat..

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Aserais
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Postby Aserais » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:14 pm

Monsone wrote:
Strala wrote:The USSR working with even more capitalists? MOAR DENOUNCEMENT!


Mexico is imperialist. The USSR is pretty anti-Imperialist. Also, if I can get fancy tech from the capitalists, that certainly is beneficial for the USSR. And since there seems to be no Spanish Flu vaccine in this timeline, creating one would really boost the USSR's prestige and prove that Soviet communisim is best.


How is Mexico imperialist? We absorbed some states that were in total anarchy, and are retaking states that were a part of Mexico originally before the economic collapse and revolution. We have spoken out against an aggressive, expansionist, fascist state that is moving into Mexican territory. Columbia and Venezuela underwent revolution and Mexico absorbed them with their consent, and have been helping rebuild those nations since. The only "expansionist" moves they've taken is pressuring the US to give up Panama, which they view as part of the central american people and, as such, under their protection.

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Wasi State
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Postby Wasi State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:16 pm

Aserais wrote:
Wasi State wrote:Current map btw. If I missed anything lmk of course.


Mexico conquered the anarchic mexican states, but they're still working on consolidating control there, idk how or if you want to represent that on the map

I'd say you're about halfway there to claiming them enough to be respresented on the map, by next month (ie: Tomorrow IRL), you should have a more solid grasp and control in that region of Mexico if you continue and push your efforts in the IC.

Also it saves me the trouble of editing the map again tonight.
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Domerstresseistan
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Postby Domerstresseistan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 pm

Aserais wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Mexico is imperialist. The USSR is pretty anti-Imperialist. Also, if I can get fancy tech from the capitalists, that certainly is beneficial for the USSR. And since there seems to be no Spanish Flu vaccine in this timeline, creating one would really boost the USSR's prestige and prove that Soviet communisim is best.


How is Mexico imperialist? We absorbed some states that were in total anarchy, and are retaking states that were a part of Mexico originally before the economic collapse and revolution. We have spoken out against an aggressive, expansionist, fascist state that is moving into Mexican territory. Columbia and Venezuela underwent revolution and Mexico absorbed them with their consent, and have been helping rebuild those nations since. The only "expansionist" moves they've taken is pressuring the US to give up Panama, which they view as part of the central american people and, as such, under their protection.


Imperialism is perfection. A combination of unyielding Totalitarianism, Imperialism, Nationalism and an ideologically homogeneous society is an measurement of long-term stability.

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