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Aserais
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Postby Aserais » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:52 pm

what if I fucked around and invaded germany, got in on that post-war negotiation lol
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Strala
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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:57 pm

Monsone wrote:
Baltic Fleet (Currently not under Russian contol):

4 Gangut Class Battleships (Only two in active service at any given time)
2 Profintern Class Cruiser
1 Pallada Class Cruiser (Training ship)
3 Orfey Class Destroyers
3 Izyaslav Class Destroyers
3 Leningrad Class Destroyers (4 more being built)
4 Vsadnik Class Destroyers (Coastal Patrol)
3 Okhotnik Class Destroyers (Coastal Patrol
5 Uragan Class Guards Ships
5 S-Class Submarines (More being built)
7 Dekabrist Class Submarines
5 Leninets Class Submarines

Northern Fleet:

1 Pallada Class Cruiser (Training ship)
2 Orfey Class Destroyers
2 Izayaslav Class Destroyers
5 Uragan Class Guards Ships
10 Leninets Class Submarines (Only 5 in active service)

Black Sea Fleet:
Currently no ships assigned to the Black Sea Fleet.

Russian Air Force:

1 Flight=5 Aircraft
1 Squadron=3 Flights (15 Aircraft)

75 Tupolev ANT-7 (Reconnaissance Aircraft)
75 Tupolev TB-1 (Bomber)
150 Tupolev TB-3 (Bomber and Transport Plane)
150 Tupolev SB (Bomber)
150 Ilyushin DB-3 (Bomber)
750 Polikarpov R-Z (Ground Attack Aircraft)
1,500 Polikarpov R-5 (Ground Attack Aircraft)
750 Polikarpov I-15 (Fighter)
450 Polikarpov I-5 (Fighter)
450 Polikarpov I-16 (Fighter)
300 Polikarpov I-3 (Fighter)
4,500 Polikarpov Po-2 (General Purpose Plane)
1,500 Polikarpov R-2 (General Purpose Plane)
30 Tupolev PS-9 (Transport Planes)
15 Tupolev ANT-14 (Transport Planes)


Please note this is extremely tenative, and the ground forces part is taking me longer than expected because of a lack of information on both Russian and Soviet military organization when it comes to regiments, batallions, commands, etc.

I don't want to be hypocritical, but this airforce is quite large for that size. The soviet airforce in 1939 was OTL was only 10382, and this has 500 planes more than that. I get what you wrote about how most of them might not be operational, even then it would still be quite expensive to build this many planes especially when most of these planes were built when the USSR was limited to a small amount of land and limited supplies compared to OTL USSR

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Postby Aserais » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:01 pm

Strala wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Baltic Fleet (Currently not under Russian contol):

4 Gangut Class Battleships (Only two in active service at any given time)
2 Profintern Class Cruiser
1 Pallada Class Cruiser (Training ship)
3 Orfey Class Destroyers
3 Izyaslav Class Destroyers
3 Leningrad Class Destroyers (4 more being built)
4 Vsadnik Class Destroyers (Coastal Patrol)
3 Okhotnik Class Destroyers (Coastal Patrol
5 Uragan Class Guards Ships
5 S-Class Submarines (More being built)
7 Dekabrist Class Submarines
5 Leninets Class Submarines

Northern Fleet:

1 Pallada Class Cruiser (Training ship)
2 Orfey Class Destroyers
2 Izayaslav Class Destroyers
5 Uragan Class Guards Ships
10 Leninets Class Submarines (Only 5 in active service)

Black Sea Fleet:
Currently no ships assigned to the Black Sea Fleet.

Russian Air Force:

1 Flight=5 Aircraft
1 Squadron=3 Flights (15 Aircraft)

75 Tupolev ANT-7 (Reconnaissance Aircraft)
75 Tupolev TB-1 (Bomber)
150 Tupolev TB-3 (Bomber and Transport Plane)
150 Tupolev SB (Bomber)
150 Ilyushin DB-3 (Bomber)
750 Polikarpov R-Z (Ground Attack Aircraft)
1,500 Polikarpov R-5 (Ground Attack Aircraft)
750 Polikarpov I-15 (Fighter)
450 Polikarpov I-5 (Fighter)
450 Polikarpov I-16 (Fighter)
300 Polikarpov I-3 (Fighter)
4,500 Polikarpov Po-2 (General Purpose Plane)
1,500 Polikarpov R-2 (General Purpose Plane)
30 Tupolev PS-9 (Transport Planes)
15 Tupolev ANT-14 (Transport Planes)


Please note this is extremely tenative, and the ground forces part is taking me longer than expected because of a lack of information on both Russian and Soviet military organization when it comes to regiments, batallions, commands, etc.

I don't want to be hypocritical, but this airforce is quite large for that size. The soviet airforce in 1939 was OTL was only 10382, and this has 500 planes more than that. I get what you wrote about how most of them might not be operational, even then it would still be quite expensive to build this many planes especially when most of these planes were built when the USSR was limited to a small amount of land and limited supplies compared to OTL USSR


Actually, could I get some help with that? I'm not sure what would be realistic for RSM after a ten year buildup

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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:09 pm

Aserais wrote:
Strala wrote:I don't want to be hypocritical, but this airforce is quite large for that size. The soviet airforce in 1939 was OTL was only 10382, and this has 500 planes more than that. I get what you wrote about how most of them might not be operational, even then it would still be quite expensive to build this many planes especially when most of these planes were built when the USSR was limited to a small amount of land and limited supplies compared to OTL USSR


Actually, could I get some help with that? I'm not sure what would be realistic for RSM after a ten year buildup

IDK. I'm not the best with these things. I think it would be best to research the militaries of the former nations that make up the RSM. Also on that note, want to help the communists in China?

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Postby Aserais » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:12 pm

Strala wrote:
Aserais wrote:
Actually, could I get some help with that? I'm not sure what would be realistic for RSM after a ten year buildup

IDK. I'm not the best with these things. I think it would be best to research the militaries of the former nations that make up the RSM. Also on that note, want to help the communists in China?


Oh, most definitely. Do you need oil, iron, or gold more? And the thing is that Mexico, Colombia, and Venezuela have enough natural resources to create a truly massive equipment buildup, and with a communist government production could be bent towards that end. The former militaries of those nations were absorbed and beefed up, and they've been building and buying all the military equipment they can get their hands on

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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:17 pm

Aserais wrote:
Strala wrote:IDK. I'm not the best with these things. I think it would be best to research the militaries of the former nations that make up the RSM. Also on that note, want to help the communists in China?


Oh, most definitely. Do you need oil, iron, or gold more? And the thing is that Mexico, Colombia, and Venezuela have enough natural resources to create a truly massive equipment buildup, and with a communist government production could be bent towards that end. The former militaries of those nations were absorbed and beefed up, and they've been building and buying all the military equipment they can get their hands on

I would like weapons, especially airplanes and maybe some foreign weapons. Tanks might be nice, but not necessary. Gold would also be nice as would copper, iron, and oil, although the last three aren't that necessary since I own Sichuan province, which is rich in iron, copper, petroleum, natural resources, and other natural resources. As for the military, modernization and research would probably be a good way to build-up the military. Like I was reminded, motorized and armored divisions weren't common during this area, also I'm not the best with geography so I would believe that armored and motorized units would be hampered by the terrain and maybe the road and other infrastructure. I think the navy would get a decent build-up while the military would probably get a lot of shiny and new weapons and planes
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Postby Aserais » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:30 pm

Strala wrote:
Aserais wrote:
Oh, most definitely. Do you need oil, iron, or gold more? And the thing is that Mexico, Colombia, and Venezuela have enough natural resources to create a truly massive equipment buildup, and with a communist government production could be bent towards that end. The former militaries of those nations were absorbed and beefed up, and they've been building and buying all the military equipment they can get their hands on

I would like weapons, especially airplanes and maybe some foreign weapons. Tanks might be nice, but not necessary. Gold would also be nice as would copper, iron, and oil, although the last three aren't that necessary since I own Sichuan province, which is rich in iron, copper, petroleum, natural resources, and other natural resources. As for the military, modernization and research would probably be a good way to build-up the military. Like I was reminded, motorized and armored divisions weren't common during this area, also I'm not the best with geography so I would believe that armored and motorized units would be hampered by the terrain and maybe the road and other infrastructure. I think the navy would get a decent build-up while the military would probably get a lot of shiny and new weapons and planes


We could definitely donate a few hundred planes to China's revolution. And part of the app was Mexico offering citizenship and unlimited funding to scientists who wanted to come to mexico and help modernize the nation in both military and industrialization
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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:31 pm

Aserais wrote:
Strala wrote:I would like weapons, especially airplanes and maybe some foreign weapons. Tanks might be nice, but not necessary. Gold would also be nice as would copper, iron, and oil, although the last three aren't that necessary since I own Sichuan province, which is rich in iron, copper, petroleum, natural resources, and other natural resources. As for the military, modernization and research would probably be a good way to build-up the military. Like I was reminded, motorized and armored divisions weren't common during this area, also I'm not the best with geography so I would believe that armored and motorized units would be hampered by the terrain and maybe the road and other infrastructure. I think the navy would get a decent build-up while the military would probably get a lot of shiny and new weapons and planes


We could definitely donate a few hundred planes to China's revolution

Thank you, comrade! Now are you willing to denounce Stalin for betraying the revolution?

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Postby Aserais » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:33 pm

Strala wrote:
Aserais wrote:
We could definitely donate a few hundred planes to China's revolution

Thank you, comrade! Now are you willing to denounce Stalin for betraying the revolution?


Oh that's already done, the revolution in Mexico was inspired and partially led by Trotsky

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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:35 pm

Aserais wrote:
Strala wrote:Thank you, comrade! Now are you willing to denounce Stalin for betraying the revolution?


Oh that's already done, the revolution in Mexico was inspired and partially led by Trotsky

Oh, nice then! I was going to say that Stalin went 180 and decided to work with capitalists along with dissolving the USSR.

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Postby Monsone » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:42 pm

Aserais wrote:
Strala wrote:Thank you, comrade! Now are you willing to denounce Stalin for betraying the revolution?


Oh that's already done, the revolution in Mexico was inspired and partially led by Trotsky


"Did somebody order a double ice axe?"

-Probably Stalin
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Postby Aserais » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:44 pm

Monsone wrote:
Aserais wrote:
Oh that's already done, the revolution in Mexico was inspired and partially led by Trotsky


"Did somebody order a double ice axe?"

-Probably Stalin


Stalin can't even keep his own country together meanwhile Trotsky formed Gran Columbia

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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:48 pm

Aserais wrote:
Monsone wrote:
"Did somebody order a double ice axe?"

-Probably Stalin


Stalin can't even keep his own country together meanwhile Trotsky formed Gran Columbia

At least Trotsky stayed true to the revolution during this timeline while Stalin turned his back to it

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Postby Wasi State » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:06 pm

Current RP Time: May 1st, 1936 - June 1st, 1936
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Postby Monsone » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:12 pm

Wasi State wrote:
Current RP Time: May 1st, 1936 - June 1st, 1936

Ah, coup o'clock!
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Postby New Sriker » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:22 pm

Wasi State wrote:
Current RP Time: May 1st, 1936 - June 1st, 1936

Time for the May Day post

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Postby Union Princes » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm

alright, posted for Long's speech.
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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:02 pm

I will strive to get a post posted tomorrow in IC

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Postby New Sriker » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:04 pm

Strala wrote:I will strive to get a post posted tomorrow in IC

Can't wait to see it man!

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Postby New Demorvian » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:08 pm

Strala wrote:I will strive to get a post posted tomorrow in IC

Same, since Arizona is going insane. Down with the traitors, up with the stars!

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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:15 pm

New Sriker wrote:
Strala wrote:I will strive to get a post posted tomorrow in IC

Can't wait to see it man!

Thanks! I can't say it will be good though. I was hoping that someone was going to app as the KMT, but I guess not. OP is it fine if I made it the left KMT as the dominant faction? If so, I want to see if they are willing to unify with me? Also what territory do they own? I'm confused as to this part since the country is supposed to me more divided then OTL

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Postby Wasi State » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:21 pm

Strala wrote:
New Sriker wrote:Can't wait to see it man!

Thanks! I can't say it will be good though. I was hoping that someone was going to app as the KMT, but I guess not. OP is it fine if I made it the left KMT as the dominant faction? If so, I want to see if they are willing to unify with me? Also what territory do they own? I'm confused as to this part since the country is supposed to me more divided then OTL

I left China's situation pretty open ended so feel free, I would say the KMT own a lot of Southern China where their power is consolidated, with anything north of that being one province warlord cliques.
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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:25 pm

Wasi State wrote:
Strala wrote:Thanks! I can't say it will be good though. I was hoping that someone was going to app as the KMT, but I guess not. OP is it fine if I made it the left KMT as the dominant faction? If so, I want to see if they are willing to unify with me? Also what territory do they own? I'm confused as to this part since the country is supposed to me more divided then OTL

I left China's situation pretty open ended so feel free, I would say the KMT own a lot of Southern China where their power is consolidated, with anything north of that being one province warlord cliques.

Ah okay. What about Jiangsu province? I would assume the KMT owns it. Also what about the Fengtian clique? I made it so that they seemed to be the other preeminent power within this war torn China. This does somewhat reflect on their status before the northern expedition IRL. Also can I say I absorbed the Guominjun? It's strange since they were a christian army, were Christian socialists, and were Pro-Soviet.

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Postby Strala » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:30 pm

Oh another question is, is the international settlement and the shanghai volunteer corp still around? If so, are they roughly the same size as OTL, smaller, or larger?

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Postby Wasi State » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:39 pm

Strala wrote:Oh another question is, is the international settlement and the shanghai volunteer corp still around? If so, are they roughly the same size as OTL, smaller, or larger?

It does exist, but is more of a home for exiles now, it's in a rather downtrodden state I'd imagine. The volunteer corp would still be around as a local garrison, but they don't have the numbers to cover more ground than that.

Jiangsu was lost to a warlord clique I would say. The Fengtian hold a large sum of Manchuria. And yeah sure you can have the Guominjun absorbed into you.
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