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Postby New Sriker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:00 pm

Would Browder allow the NRP to absorb the Communist Party, since doing that would allow for most of the left in America to be under one party (excluding some Social Democrats of course) That will most likely be my next post, or I could do another of Laws purging, which he doesn't have any to do for a while.

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Postby Wasi State » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:02 pm

New Sriker wrote:Would Browder allow the NRP to absorb the Communist Party, since doing that would allow for most of the left in America to be under one party (excluding some Social Democrats of course) That will most likely be my next post, or I could do another of Laws purging, which he doesn't have any to do for a while.

It's certainly possible down the line, but would probably be proposed as a coalition party of sorts at first.
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:07 pm

It wouldn't go down quietly. It would cause a scandel for the NRP to align with the Communist Party who, thamks to the media, is whidely suspected of causing the Las Vegas Bombing.
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Postby New Sriker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:08 pm

Wasi State wrote:
New Sriker wrote:Would Browder allow the NRP to absorb the Communist Party, since doing that would allow for most of the left in America to be under one party (excluding some Social Democrats of course) That will most likely be my next post, or I could do another of Laws purging, which he doesn't have any to do for a while.

It's certainly possible down the line, but would probably be proposed as a coalition party of sorts at first.

Yeah, then later down the line, a possible full combing of the two parties, If that goes good It would help me win the Election, my current plan seems to be going well, unless someone finds it out.

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Postby New Sriker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:13 pm

Union Princes wrote:It wouldn't go down quietly. It would cause a scandal for the NRP to align with the Communist Party who, thanks to the media, is whidely suspected of causing the Las Vegas Bombing.

Well yeah, but the NRP already have been attacked for that since they are well known "allies" of sorts to the CP. The NRP's run needs two things to win Butler and Law, for Butler is the fella gaining the support of Veterans and the general moderate populace with his populist ideas, like the New Bill of Rights. Laws part is, if you read my first post it would help people understand, is to handle inparty issues, which includes killing the group behind the Las Vegas Bombing, can't wait for the feds to find the burnt up cabin in the desert
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Postby Wasi State » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:48 pm

Current RP Time: April 1st, 1936 - May 1st, 1936
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Postby Monsone » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:53 pm

Wasi State wrote:
Current RP Time: April 1st, 1936 - May 1st, 1936


Alright. So how much land would a unified Russia consisting of a union between Stalin's, Kolchak's, and Kerensky's forces encompass?
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Postby Benuty » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:35 pm

Country/Political Group/Anarchic State(Full Name): TransAmerican Research Bureau

Head of State/Leader: Director General Leslie Groves.

Location: Present officially in various sites where project manhattan would have taken place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan ... ject_sites
Government Type: Research Agency [front for a rogue intelligence collective]

Capital: Los Alamos.

National Debuffs (Pick Two or Three):

Research Above all else: The Bureau prizes advances in the sciences above regardless of the costs of morality, ethics, and even the population of the citizenry of the United States. While this does yield results the moral gray lines often crossed here can have negative consequences for the nation at large (radiation poisoning, pandemics worsening, etc). Some rightly call these people mad scientists.

Beholden to No One: Loyalty is overrated so long as the victor allows you a comfortable life in a comfortable office away from the more politically rigorous duties thanks to your contributions to whatever effort they needed to win.

Accelerate the Nightmare: The American nightmare is just getting started, and with precious test results needed, project quotas needed filling, and new clients to entertain, what is the cost of societal stability for the sake of science?


GDP: Not Applicable.

Population: 3,500 members across the country.

History: Formed in the 1920s partially as a measure to prevent the stagnation of the sciences as the war dragged on it began to include political, and social exiles from all over the world. Of course, they did begin to recruit a number of eccentric people such as the famous Lysenko from war-torn Russia as well as a number of premier German scientists. While they did get some acclaim in helping deal with the pandemic the various black holes of ethics regarding their research has cast them in a dim, but necessary light. Had a great depression not arrived the agency would have had a front-page report for suspicion of spreading syphilis to curb the poor. Since the placement of Leslie Groves a former military general in the head of the director-general position following the failed support for some plan involving radioactive material out west the agency's reputation has gotten better.

Yet in the end, despite the political madness the majority of its members keep to their compounds toiling away even as the country itself breaks apart on every side. This has put the director-general in an interesting position of whether to become political or not, but the benefits of these actions remain to be seen.

Map Color: Violet.

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Postby Union Princes » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:44 pm

Benuty wrote:Country/Political Group/Anarchic State(Full Name): TransAmerican Research Bureau

Head of State/Leader: Director General Leslie Groves.

Location: Present officially in various sites where project manhattan would have taken place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan ... ject_sites
Government Type: Research Agency [front for a rogue intelligence collective]

Capital: Los Alamos.

National Debuffs (Pick Two or Three):

Research Above all else: The Bureau prizes advances in the sciences above regardless of the costs of morality, ethics, and even the population of the citizenry of the United States. While this does yield results the moral gray lines often crossed here can have negative consequences for the nation at large (radiation poisoning, pandemics worsening, etc). Some rightly call these people mad scientists.

Beholden to No One: Loyalty is overrated so long as the victor allows you a comfortable life in a comfortable office away from the more politically rigorous duties thanks to your contributions to whatever effort they needed to win.

Accelerate the Nightmare: The American nightmare is just getting started, and with precious test results needed, project quotas needed filling, and new clients to entertain, what is the cost of societal stability for the sake of science?


GDP: Not Applicable.

Population: 3,500 members across the country.

History: Formed in the 1920s partially as a measure to prevent the stagnation of the sciences as the war dragged on it began to include political, and social exiles from all over the world. Of course, they did begin to recruit a number of eccentric people such as the famous Lysenko from war-torn Russia as well as a number of premier German scientists. While they did get some acclaim in helping deal with the pandemic the various black holes of ethics regarding their research has cast them in a dim, but necessary light. Had a great depression not arrived the agency would have had a front-page report for suspicion of spreading syphilis to curb the poor. Since the placement of Leslie Groves a former military general in the head of the director-general position following the failed support for some plan involving radioactive material out west the agency's reputation has gotten better.

Yet in the end, despite the political madness the majority of its members keep to their compounds toiling away even as the country itself breaks apart on every side. This has put the director-general in an interesting position of whether to become political or not, but the benefits of these actions remain to be seen.

Map Color: Violet.

-Do Not Remove 88-


Well, well, well, looks like my prediction came true. We now have a path to harness nuclear energy convert it into bombs.
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Postby Wasi State » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:48 pm

Monsone wrote:
Wasi State wrote:
Current RP Time: April 1st, 1936 - May 1st, 1936


Alright. So how much land would a unified Russia consisting of a union between Stalin's, Kolchak's, and Kerensky's forces encompass?

I'd need to give a fair estimation come the next map update, it'll be a decent chunk of territory though, but not entirely all that well integrated.
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Postby Monsone » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:49 pm

Wasi State wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Alright. So how much land would a unified Russia consisting of a union between Stalin's, Kolchak's, and Kerensky's forces encompass?

I'd need to give a fair estimation come the next map update, it'll be a decent chunk of territory though, but not entirely all that well integrated.

No problem.
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Postby Wasi State » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:49 pm

Benuty wrote:Country/Political Group/Anarchic State(Full Name): TransAmerican Research Bureau

Head of State/Leader: Director General Leslie Groves.

Location: Present officially in various sites where project manhattan would have taken place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan ... ject_sites
Government Type: Research Agency [front for a rogue intelligence collective]

Capital: Los Alamos.

National Debuffs (Pick Two or Three):

Research Above all else: The Bureau prizes advances in the sciences above regardless of the costs of morality, ethics, and even the population of the citizenry of the United States. While this does yield results the moral gray lines often crossed here can have negative consequences for the nation at large (radiation poisoning, pandemics worsening, etc). Some rightly call these people mad scientists.

Beholden to No One: Loyalty is overrated so long as the victor allows you a comfortable life in a comfortable office away from the more politically rigorous duties thanks to your contributions to whatever effort they needed to win.

Accelerate the Nightmare: The American nightmare is just getting started, and with precious test results needed, project quotas needed filling, and new clients to entertain, what is the cost of societal stability for the sake of science?


GDP: Not Applicable.

Population: 3,500 members across the country.

History: Formed in the 1920s partially as a measure to prevent the stagnation of the sciences as the war dragged on it began to include political, and social exiles from all over the world. Of course, they did begin to recruit a number of eccentric people such as the famous Lysenko from war-torn Russia as well as a number of premier German scientists. While they did get some acclaim in helping deal with the pandemic the various black holes of ethics regarding their research has cast them in a dim, but necessary light. Had a great depression not arrived the agency would have had a front-page report for suspicion of spreading syphilis to curb the poor. Since the placement of Leslie Groves a former military general in the head of the director-general position following the failed support for some plan involving radioactive material out west the agency's reputation has gotten better.

Yet in the end, despite the political madness the majority of its members keep to their compounds toiling away even as the country itself breaks apart on every side. This has put the director-general in an interesting position of whether to become political or not, but the benefits of these actions remain to be seen.

Map Color: Violet.

-Do Not Remove 88-


The Clock strikes closer to Midnight... Accepted.
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Postby Union Princes » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:51 pm

Hows the campaign trail look like, OP? What's Huey's Status?
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:38 am

Bozhe moi.. this is interesting.

Seriously. Stalin releasing his power, and joined hands with the leader of White Russia, which the Red Army and the Bolshevik government spent countless soldiers and wealth to fight? And Kerensky actually accepted it? If that's even possible in the first place, I don't know what else could be going on in this RP.

Anyway, since it is canon - and the USSR is gone - I think the Confederation's political union could be in a more precarious condition than it was before - but since Russia is now a democracy, the Confederation would try parlaying first with their government, securing possibly the guarantee of Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine's independence. No one wanted to be treated as second-class citizens subservient to the majority ethnic group, in this case, Russians. That is, if this new Russian Social Republic didn't immediately plunge to a civil war already :p

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Possibly. I mean in what was the USSR, the institutions are just going to be rebranded to sound less communist/socialist. but in the rest of Russia that wasn't under Soviet control, yes there whill be a bit on chaos. Similarly, it's likely unification talks would possibly break down as Stalin's cronies try to outmanuver Kerensky's and Kolchack's. But either way, it should be fun.

I also should note, Stalin still runs the nation with an iron girp, and initially at least, not much will change from the USSR. Then again, once some more radical changes happen, it's going to become a more complex and strange scenario.

Less communist and socialist? What sort of vile revisionism have you been experimenting with? Seriously I think some sort of denouement of the new regime will be coming from the CSR.

The Japanese Empire would have a good time courting Russians then...
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Postby Plzen » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:44 am

Sarderia wrote:That is, if this new Russian Social Republic didn't immediately plunge to a civil war already :p

The Kinship Wars to begin again?

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Postby Sarderia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:21 am

Plzen wrote:
Sarderia wrote:That is, if this new Russian Social Republic didn't immediately plunge to a civil war already :p

The Kinship Wars to begin again?

And I doubt the Cossacks would refuse outright the creation of a Cossack nation-state...
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Postby Dahyan » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:29 am

Did Stalin just disband the Soviet Union? Like.. What the actual hell?
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Postby Dahyan » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:33 am

Wasi State wrote:
Monsone wrote:Comrades, the USSR is dead. Long live the Russian Social Republic!

Interesting.

There's... A good chance Stalin might get coup attempts on him from his hardliners, so keep that in mind.


I would say that chance would border 100%, by pretty much anyone in the Bolsheviks movement who just found out they fought twenty years of revolutionary war for nothing
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Postby New Sriker » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:34 am

Dahyan wrote:Did Stalin just disband the Soviet Union? Like.. What the actual hell?

Yeah, a weird move, but lets see how long it lasts

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Postby Dahyan » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:34 am

Monsone wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:>Stalin turning the USSR back to Russia

This is cursed and not very epic of him. Revolutionaries around the world don't approve.


Eh, it's ironically enough for the greater good. It means likely a quicker end to the Russian Civil War, a unification of Russian lands, and above all, it means freedom and democracy for the Russia people in this case. And sucre, it could be called cursed, but it's going to be epic.


It's a literal betrayal of everything the Revolution was fought for. I highly doubt any Bolshevik would consider that a greater good.
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Postby Dahyan » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:35 am

New Sriker wrote:
Dahyan wrote:Did Stalin just disband the Soviet Union? Like.. What the actual hell?

Yeah, a weird move, but lets see how long it lasts


Indeed. I'm very curious.
By the way, expect a reaction from the NOI to your acceptance of our conditions soon. We're going to have lots of fun in America.
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Postby New Sriker » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:40 am

Dahyan wrote:
New Sriker wrote:Yeah, a weird move, but lets see how long it lasts


Indeed. I'm very curious.
By the way, expect a reaction from the NOI to your acceptance of our conditions soon. We're going to have lots of fun in America.

If the NRP wins the election it's going to be really hard to meet some of the NOI's conditions, which will be one of the many problems the NRP would have to deal with if they win the election

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Postby Wasi State » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:44 am

Just a heads up, I'm gonna be busy throughout the day, so tomorrow I'll get around to the Death of Kaiser Wilhelm II.
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Postby Strala » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:14 am

Dahyan wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Eh, it's ironically enough for the greater good. It means likely a quicker end to the Russian Civil War, a unification of Russian lands, and above all, it means freedom and democracy for the Russia people in this case. And sucre, it could be called cursed, but it's going to be epic.


It's a literal betrayal of everything the Revolution was fought for. I highly doubt any Bolshevik would consider that a greater good.

The CSR will denounce Stalin for betraying the revolution. I would think most people that fought for the Bolsheviks and that lived in the USSR before the unification with the white Russians would be dissatisfied especially red army members.

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Postby Union Princes » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:09 am

I'm not gonna be active for the next couple of days since I'm going back to university. I return on Sunday or Monday
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