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Postby Main Nation Ministry » Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:05 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Bruke wrote:Aww that was a nice Prendy post.


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Yo what the fuck that made me like Prendergast.


Rijkenlandd wrote:
Super wholesome post <3


I keep telling y'all he's grown a conscience.

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Postby Bruke » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:00 am

I have to say I really like Prendy’s plan for the territories. Someone should do that in real life...

It seems no one cares about their issues.

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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:05 am

Bruke wrote:I have to say I really like Prendy’s plan for the territories. Someone should do that in real life...

It seems no one cares about their issues.

Well, Prendy's only really visiting to say he has campaigned everywhere.

Plus, if elected, I'm 99% sure he'll spend his political capital elsewhere.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:35 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Bruke wrote:I have to say I really like Prendy’s plan for the territories. Someone should do that in real life...

It seems no one cares about their issues.

Well, Prendy's only really visiting to say he has campaigned everywhere.

Plus, if elected, I'm 99% sure he'll spend his political capital elsewhere.


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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:38 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Well, Prendy's only really visiting to say he has campaigned everywhere.

Plus, if elected, I'm 99% sure he'll spend his political capital elsewhere.


Mumbles something about the Nez Commission.

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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:38 am

Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!
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Postby Bruke » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:41 am

Dentali wrote:Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!


Ooh this is right up Volek’s alley... sign him up!

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:42 am

Dentali wrote:Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!

Goldman and Vohoffsky will co-sponsor.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:44 am

Dentali wrote:Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!


I think all my member of Congress would be on board.
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Dentali wrote:Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!


I think all my member of Congress would be on board.

Same ^
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Dentali wrote:Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!


I think all my member of Congress would be on board.



Can you list them for me so i don't miss any?
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
I think all my member of Congress would be on board.

Same ^


Can you list them for me so i don't miss any?
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:46 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Protecting the Republic from Objectionable Technological Espionage and Communist Tampering Act
PROTECT Act

Senate Sponsor: Barry Anderson (R-MO)
House Sponsor: John Logan Ruler (R-IA)

Senate Co-sponsors: Augusta Merriam (R-NH), Richard Slater (R-AR)
House Co-sponsors: Dr. Katherine Edwards (R-GA), Jason Evander (R-SD), Caroline Simone (D-NY), Earl Tenson (R-MT)


AN ACT TO prevent espionage and tampering orchestrated by the People's Republic of China against the United States; impose sanctions against those responsible for acts of espionage; impose criminal penalties for domestic actors; and for related purposes.


Section 1 - Short Title
This bill may be cited as the "Protecting the Republic from Objectionable Technological Espionage and Communist Tampering Act of 2019."

Section 2 - Sanctions
  1. The President is authorised to impose sanctions against individuals within the People's Republic of China responsible for acts of digital espionage or whom otherwise according to his determination pose a significant threat to the digital infrastructure or national security of the United States.
  2. The President is authorised to impose sanctions against individuals or corporations within the People's Republic of China or outside of the People's Republic of China who have assisted the Communist Party of China's efforts to gather digital or other intellegence regarding its citizens or citizens of the United States.
  3. The President is authorised to impose sanctions against individuals or corporations within the People's Republic of China or outside of the People's Republic of China who have colluded with the violations of basic human rights by the Chinese Communist Party, including efforts to forcibly remove the Uyghur muslim population from the province of Xinjiang and forcibly remove the Buddhist population from the province of Tibet.

Section 3 - Offences
  1. It shall be an offence for any person to knowlingly or neglectfully allow the personal information of a citizen of the United States to be stored by a hostile foreign power.
  2. An individual guilty of an offence under Section 3.1 shall be punished with imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or fined under Title 18 of the U.S. Code, or both; or, if the personal information is stored by an exceptionally hostile foreign power or is stored without the consent or knowledge of its original owner, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or fined under Title 18 of the U.S. Code, or both.
  3. A corporation guilty of an offence under Section 3.1 shall be fined not more than $45,000,000; or, if the personal information is stored by an exceptionally hostile foreign power or is stored without the consent or knowledge of its original owner, shall be fined not more than $95,000,000.

Section 4 - Definitions
  1. The term "hostile foreign power" shall be defined by the Secretary of State.
  2. The term "exceptionally hostile foreign power" shall be defined by the Secretary of State and shall include the People's Republic of China.
  3. The term "personal information" shall mean any information about an individual maintained by an agency, including any information that can be used to distinguish or trace an individual's identity, such as name, social security number, date and place of birth, mother's maiden name, or biometric records; and any other information that is linked or linkable to an individual, such as medical, educational, financial, and employment information.

Section 5 - Misc.
This Act supersedes all prior contradictory legislation, excluding the US constiution.

This bill is then honorably presented to the US Senate for consideration in order to prevent the storage of personal information and espionage by foreign hostile powers, specifically the People's Republic of China to improve the United States Law and is backed by Sen. Barry Anderson (R-MO) on (date tbc)

Do Not Remove: 1337


Any cosponsors?
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:46 am

Dentali wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Same ^


Can you list them for me so i don't miss any?

Just Anderson and Atang in my case
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:48 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:
Protecting the Republic from Objectionable Technological Espionage and Communist Tampering Act
PROTECT Act

Senate Sponsor: Barry Anderson (R-MO)
House Sponsor: John Logan Ruler (R-IA)

Senate Co-sponsors: Augusta Merriam (R-NH), Richard Slater (R-AR)
House Co-sponsors: Dr. Katherine Edwards (R-GA), Jason Evander (R-SD), Caroline Simone (D-NY), Earl Tenson (R-MT)


AN ACT TO prevent espionage and tampering orchestrated by the People's Republic of China against the United States; impose sanctions against those responsible for acts of espionage; impose criminal penalties for domestic actors; and for related purposes.


Section 1 - Short Title
This bill may be cited as the "Protecting the Republic from Objectionable Technological Espionage and Communist Tampering Act of 2019."

Section 2 - Sanctions
  1. The President is authorised to impose sanctions against individuals within the People's Republic of China responsible for acts of digital espionage or whom otherwise according to his determination pose a significant threat to the digital infrastructure or national security of the United States.
  2. The President is authorised to impose sanctions against individuals or corporations within the People's Republic of China or outside of the People's Republic of China who have assisted the Communist Party of China's efforts to gather digital or other intellegence regarding its citizens or citizens of the United States.
  3. The President is authorised to impose sanctions against individuals or corporations within the People's Republic of China or outside of the People's Republic of China who have colluded with the violations of basic human rights by the Chinese Communist Party, including efforts to forcibly remove the Uyghur muslim population from the province of Xinjiang and forcibly remove the Buddhist population from the province of Tibet.

Section 3 - Offences
  1. It shall be an offence for any person to knowlingly or neglectfully allow the personal information of a citizen of the United States to be stored by a hostile foreign power.
  2. An individual guilty of an offence under Section 3.1 shall be punished with imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or fined under Title 18 of the U.S. Code, or both; or, if the personal information is stored by an exceptionally hostile foreign power or is stored without the consent or knowledge of its original owner, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or fined under Title 18 of the U.S. Code, or both.
  3. A corporation guilty of an offence under Section 3.1 shall be fined not more than $45,000,000; or, if the personal information is stored by an exceptionally hostile foreign power or is stored without the consent or knowledge of its original owner, shall be fined not more than $95,000,000.

Section 4 - Definitions
  1. The term "hostile foreign power" shall be defined by the Secretary of State.
  2. The term "exceptionally hostile foreign power" shall be defined by the Secretary of State and shall include the People's Republic of China.
  3. The term "personal information" shall mean any information about an individual maintained by an agency, including any information that can be used to distinguish or trace an individual's identity, such as name, social security number, date and place of birth, mother's maiden name, or biometric records; and any other information that is linked or linkable to an individual, such as medical, educational, financial, and employment information.

Section 5 - Misc.
This Act supersedes all prior contradictory legislation, excluding the US constiution.

This bill is then honorably presented to the US Senate for consideration in order to prevent the storage of personal information and espionage by foreign hostile powers, specifically the People's Republic of China to improve the United States Law and is backed by Sen. Barry Anderson (R-MO) on (date tbc)

Do Not Remove: 1337


Any cosponsors?


Moore will co-sponsor if Simone does
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:48 am

Dentali wrote:Looking for Co-Sponsors!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1smg ... sp=sharing

Its lengthy but the Bill basically invests in new startups with potential for a lot of economic activity and provide a lot of jobs. Let me know if you're interested in being a co-sponsor!!!

lengthy?

*laughs in my bills*
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:49 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Dentali wrote:
Can you list them for me so i don't miss any?

Just Anderson and Atang in my case



Are you sure Anderson wants to co-sponsor? It specifically requires equity with minority owned and women owned businesses
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:49 am

Dentali wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
I think all my member of Congress would be on board.



Can you list them for me so i don't miss any?


Senator Augusta Merriam (R-NH), Representative Caroline Simone (D-NY-12) and Repesentative Katherine Edwards (R-GA-3).
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:50 am

Dentali wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Just Anderson and Atang in my case



Are you sure Anderson wants to co-sponsor? It specifically requires equity with minority owned and women owned businesses

this is why Sullivan won't cosponsor.

She hates affirmative action, though if you throw something in there specifically about Native-owned business with tribal governments getting to control their own 'state program', she'll cosponsor.
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:53 am

Dentali wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Just Anderson and Atang in my case



Are you sure Anderson wants to co-sponsor? It specifically requires equity with minority owned and women owned businesses

Oh. Nah then.
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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Are you sure Anderson wants to co-sponsor? It specifically requires equity with minority owned and women owned businesses

this is why Sullivan won't cosponsor.

She hates affirmative action, though if you throw something in there specifically about Native-owned business with tribal governments getting to control their own 'state program', she'll cosponsor.



Whats the official designation of tribal peoples? I will treat them like territories in the bill and consolidate them into a single state for the purposes of this bill.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:54 am

Dentali wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:this is why Sullivan won't cosponsor.

She hates affirmative action, though if you throw something in there specifically about Native-owned business with tribal governments getting to control their own 'state program', she'll cosponsor.



Whats the official designation of tribal peoples? I will treat them like territories in the bill and consolidate them into a single state for the purposes of this bill.

Not sure, maybe look at New Cob's bill. It might have the official language.
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:55 am

Dentali wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:


Moore will co-sponsor if Simone does


I read that as "Moore will co-sponsor if Simone dies" originally lol

But anyway thanks
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:58 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Dentali wrote:
Moore will co-sponsor if Simone does


I read that as "Moore will co-sponsor if Simone dies" originally lol

But anyway thanks


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Abigail Jekyll-Jones - R-OR - Chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, Representative for the 2nd District of Oregon
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:59 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Whats the official designation of tribal peoples? I will treat them like territories in the bill and consolidate them into a single state for the purposes of this bill.

Not sure, maybe look at New Cob's bill. It might have the official language.



If i can get add the language to this sentence I will include it.

M) State: The term State means a State of the United States; and the District of Columbia. The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the United States Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands shall collectively be considered to be 1 State for the purposes of this Act.
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