Land of The Free: American Political Roleplay (OOC IV)

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Would a state-run zero-interest loan program for liberal arts colleges be... problematic?

This Ic time would’ve been the time when a prominent liberal arts college in southern Vermont closed its doors IRL

Any... uh.. advice on this?

I highly suggest against 0 interest loan programs, it just creates a disincentive to ever pay it back

[Lavan Tiri]

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WIP, dunno when I'll finish it.

A new friend for Jim Slim

Jim, Courtois, and Cartwright should all be buddies

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Any... uh.. advice on this?

I highly suggest against 0 interest loan programs, it just creates a disincentive to ever pay it back

What I suggest instead is using LIBOR rates, that is the lowest interest rate that will not create major issues.

[Bruke]

I highly suggest against 0 interest loan programs, it just creates a disincentive to ever pay it back

What I suggest instead is using LIBOR rates, that is the lowest interest rate that will not create major issues.

Hmm... the issue is if Slim can convince the legislature though... does the plan seem reasonable enough to pass the sniff test?

More importantly, would it be realistic for a real life college to back out of an existing merger agreement at the last minute just to take on loans from the state?

[Alozia]

Any... uh.. advice on this?

I highly suggest against 0 interest loan programs, it just creates a disincentive to ever pay it back

Yes, interest is what makes people pay back their loans.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

What I suggest instead is using LIBOR rates, that is the lowest interest rate that will not create major issues.

Hmm... the issue is if Slim can convince the legislature though... does the plan seem reasonable enough to pass the sniff test?

4.53% is the current interest payments for subsidized loans.

Using LIBOR rates of around 2% you more than halve student loan interest payments.

[Titanne]

Sorry to everyone for dropping off the radar! Some stuff came up.

Xath, we had a Spellman-Voorhees thing, right?

[Bruke]

Hmm... the issue is if Slim can convince the legislature though... does the plan seem reasonable enough to pass the sniff test?

4.53% is the current interest payments for subsidized loans.

Using LIBOR rates of around 2% you more than halve student loan interest payments.

That’s not what I mean... the program is meant to keep the colleges themselves from closing, it doesn’t have to do with paying for student tuition- the colleges have budget deficits because in part because of low enrollment though

[Meelducan]

What I suggest instead is using LIBOR rates, that is the lowest interest rate that will not create major issues.

Hmm... the issue is if Slim can convince the legislature though... does the plan seem reasonable enough to pass the sniff test?

More importantly, would it be realistic for a real life college to back out of an existing merger agreement at the last minute just to take on loans from the state?

Eh I don’t know, they’re pretty fiscal conservative up them parts

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

4.53% is the current interest payments for subsidized loans.

Using LIBOR rates of around 2% you more than halve student loan interest payments.

That’s not what I mean... the program is meant to keep the colleges themselves from closing, it doesn’t have to do with paying for student tuition.

Oh you are talking about bailouts... The thing is you can throw money at the colleges but overall secular trends in the liberal arts college industry have not exactly been favorable over the past 10+ years, and it is very much fighting against the tide

[Bruke]

Hmm... the issue is if Slim can convince the legislature though... does the plan seem reasonable enough to pass the sniff test?

More importantly, would it be realistic for a real life college to back out of an existing merger agreement at the last minute just to take on loans from the state?

Eh I don’t know, they’re pretty fiscal conservative up them parts

I mean, the Dems of that state are proposing single payer and free college and they seem to be doing alright, so....

[Meelducan]

Hmm... the issue is if Slim can convince the legislature though... does the plan seem reasonable enough to pass the sniff test?

More importantly, would it be realistic for a real life college to back out of an existing merger agreement at the last minute just to take on loans from the state?

Eh I don’t know, they’re pretty fiscal conservative up them parts

Thinking of the wrong state.

Personally, I doubt the Democratic controlled legislature will let it pass but we can discuss with admins.

[Bruke]

That’s not what I mean... the program is meant to keep the colleges themselves from closing, it doesn’t have to do with paying for student tuition.

Oh you are talking about bailouts... The thing is you can throw money at the colleges but overall secular trends in the liberal arts college industry have not exactly been favorable over the past 10+ years, and it is very much fighting against the tide

You’re telling me that there’s no way a liberal arts college in Vermont, that’s been around for a while, can turn itself into a Ivy League-life kind of college, where it’s prestigious enough to be a magnet for our of state companies to set up shop and out of state students to attend and maybe settle down afterwards?

That’s why I keep using Darthmouth as an example: it’s small, and out of way, but prestigious enough to attract people to the area.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Oh you are talking about bailouts... The thing is you can throw money at the colleges but overall secular trends in the liberal arts college industry have not exactly been favorable over the past 10+ years, and it is very much fighting against the tide

You’re telling me that there’s no way a liberal arts college in Vermont, that’s been around for a while, can turn itself into a Ivy League-life kind of college, where it’s prestigious enough to be a magnet for our of state companies to set up shop and out of state students to attend and maybe settle down afterwards?

The way that Ivy League colleges(and indeed all prestigious institutions) work is through their networks. Networks take time to cultivate.

But what I can suggest is that you persuade the school to do a co-op program(think of a regular program but with a mandatory internship) with the various tech(or other) companies. A guaranteed job allows a school to punch way above its weight in terms of student attraction. The government can pay subsidize a great portion of the student wages during the internship period as well.

[Bruke]

You’re telling me that there’s no way a liberal arts college in Vermont, that’s been around for a while, can turn itself into a Ivy League-life kind of college, where it’s prestigious enough to be a magnet for our of state companies to set up shop and out of state students to attend and maybe settle down afterwards?

The way that Ivy League colleges(and indeed all prestigious institutions) work is through their networks. Networks take time to cultivate.

But what I can suggest is that you persuade the school to do a co-op program(think of a regular program but with a mandatory internship) with the various tech(or other) companies. A guaranteed job allows a school to punch way above its weight in terms of student attraction. The government can pay subsidize a great portion of the student wages during the internship period as well.

Hmm... but the thing I’m trying to use the school as a way to attract those companies in the first place. They aren’t there in (very large) numbers right now and the school is closing in like a few days.

EDIT: there are some companies already, but there could be more

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

The way that Ivy League colleges(and indeed all prestigious institutions) work is through their networks. Networks take time to cultivate.

But what I can suggest is that you persuade the school to do a co-op program(think of a regular program but with a mandatory internship) with the various tech(or other) companies. A guaranteed job allows a school to punch way above its weight in terms of student attraction. The government can pay subsidize a great portion of the student wages during the internship period as well.

Hmm... but the thing I’m trying to use the school as a way to attract those companies in the first place. They aren’t there in (very large) numbers right now and the school is closing in like a few days.

There are 3 of them closing. I think you should merge them into 1 mega institution.

[Bruke]

Hmm... but the thing I’m trying to use the school as a way to attract those companies in the first place. They aren’t there in (very large) numbers right now and the school is closing in like a few days.

There are 3 of them closing. I think you should merge them into 1 mega institution.

Aren’t they in different locations across the state though? I assume you’re talking about Saint Joseph’s, Green Mountain, Southern Vermont, and Marlboro right?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

There are 3 of them closing. I think you should merge them into 1 mega institution.

Aren’t they in different locations across the state though? I assume you’re talking about Saint Joseph’s, Green Mountain, Southern Vermont, and Marlboro right?

You have a better plan than a giant merger? Rolling them all into the University of Vermont, and just concentrating on making that University the new Ivy league is probably the best way forward

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[Amuarita]

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[Federal States of Xathuecia]

You’re telling me that there’s no way a liberal arts college in Vermont, that’s been around for a while, can turn itself into a Ivy League-life kind of college, where it’s prestigious enough to be a magnet for our of state companies to set up shop and out of state students to attend and maybe settle down afterwards?

The way that Ivy League colleges(and indeed all prestigious institutions) work is through their networks. Networks take time to cultivate.

But what I can suggest is that you persuade the school to do a co-op program(think of a regular program but with a mandatory internship) with the various tech(or other) companies. A guaranteed job allows a school to punch way above its weight in terms of student attraction. The government can pay subsidize a great portion of the student wages during the internship period as well.

Ivy Leagues

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Sorry to everyone for dropping off the radar! Some stuff came up.

Xath, we had a Spellman-Voorhees thing, right?

no worries!

yes, I think I responded but I'll check

EDIT: yes, here! viewtopic.php?f=31&t=486428&p=37491186&hilit=albany#p37491186

[Bruke]

Aren’t they in different locations across the state though? I assume you’re talking about Saint Joseph’s, Green Mountain, Southern Vermont, and Marlboro right?

You have a better plan than a giant merger? Rolling them all into the University of Vermont, and just concentrating on making that University the new Ivy league is probably the best way forward

My original plan was to have the legislature set aside money for failing liberal arts colleges to go public and become part of the Vermont State Colleges since that system already has multiple public liberal arts colleges... I guess I’ll just go with that.

[Puertollano]

Thinking of apping as a political consultant or something like that, because running a whole campaign by myself is tiring, but I could totally help with someone else's while also having it be an IC thing.

Want to join the Murphy campaign?

[Lavan Tiri]

Thinking of apping as a political consultant or something like that, because running a whole campaign by myself is tiring, but I could totally help with someone else's while also having it be an IC thing.

Want to join the Murphy campaign?

Lmao imagine someone tryna help Levi change his messaging