Land of The Free: American Political Roleplay (OOC IV)

[Emazia]

Ok number 2 is absolute cringe please stop

They don't even support social democracy, let alone socialism.

Then what would you call Bernie Sanders?

A social democrat? Him calling himself a socialist is wrong, and utterly braindead. Also, the DNC rejected legal cannabis and rejected Medicare-for-All, along with having Harris as a prospective VP pick. Even the "capitalism with a human face" social democrats didn't get their policies, let alone actual socialists.

[Dentali]

Then what would you call Bernie Sanders?

A social democrat? Him calling himself a socialist is wrong, and utterly braindead. Also, the DNC rejected legal cannabis and rejected Medicare-for-All, along with having Harris as a prospective VP pick. Even the "capitalism with a human face" social democrats didn't get their policies, let alone actual socialists.

Emazia aka WCC... you need to keep in mind your definitely much further left than anyone else here and your perception of what is left and right is quite skewed especially when compared to Americans

[Emazia]

A social democrat? Him calling himself a socialist is wrong, and utterly braindead. Also, the DNC rejected legal cannabis and rejected Medicare-for-All, along with having Harris as a prospective VP pick. Even the "capitalism with a human face" social democrats didn't get their policies, let alone actual socialists.

Emazia aka WCC... you need to keep in mind your definitely much further left than anyone else here and your perception of what is left and right is quite skewed especially when compared to Americans

True, and I do understand, but social democracy is the correct term.

"As a policy regime, [social democracy] is described by academics as advocating economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and a capitalist-oriented mixed economy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

Bernie Sanders is closer to the Nordic mixed economies than he is to any socialist framework.

[Meelducan]

I’m gonna say this. I’m voting for Trump, but I think he has screwed up the pandemic response. I think he should of issued better shutdown guidance, used the Defense Production Act earlier, reigned in some of the governors, set a better mask example.
But I can’t vote for Joe Biden for the following reasons.
1) I cannot in good conscience vote for a man who will expand abortion like he would.
2) The Democratic Party has drifted so far left that it is really socialist. I oppose all forms of communist and socialist regimes.
3) I don’t think Biden is strong enough against China.
4) I oppose reparations on the principle that we should not pay for the sins of our fathers. Education reform is the answer, not wealth redistribution.
5) Biden would reverse the tax cuts, witch would lead to a recession and hurt small business.

Cringe

Biden is probably the better candidate than Trump.

Thankfully you do not reside in a swing state

[Bruke]

You all have fun supporting the two major parties, I’ll vote third party even though I don’t completely agree with the third party either.

[Kargintina the Third]

Okay non-jokingly I am gonna write in Justin Amash

[Emazia]

Okay non-jokingly I am gonna write in Justin Amash

Better than voting Trump.

You all have fun supporting the two major parties, I’ll vote third party even though I don’t completely agree with the third party either.

Hawkins, Jorgensen or Blankenship?

[Bruke]

Okay non-jokingly I am gonna write in Justin Amash

Better than voting Trump.

You all have fun supporting the two major parties, I’ll vote third party even though I don’t completely agree with the third party either.

Hawkins, Jorgensen or Blankenship?

Brian Carroll, American Solidarity Party.

https://solidarity-party.org/

That’s right, I’m a registered Republican voting for what’s essentially America’s version of a Christian Democratic Party.

Morton would be proud lol.

[Emazia]

Better than voting Trump.


Hawkins, Jorgensen or Blankenship?

Brian Carroll, American Solidarity Party.

https://solidarity-party.org/

That’s right, I’m a registered Republican voting for what’s essentially America’s version of a Christian Democratic Party.

Morton would be proud lol.

I see...

Funnily enough, an early concept for Porter was to have him run under that party.

[Main Nation Ministry]

Hmm, I think I should finish up Mike's story soon. Also, I'm still allowing people to be in Mike's post as NPCs. Don't worry if things go out of control. I start up a post soon.

[Meelducan]

Better than voting Trump.


Hawkins, Jorgensen or Blankenship?

Brian Carroll, American Solidarity Party.

https://solidarity-party.org/

That’s right, I’m a registered Republican voting for what’s essentially America’s version of a Christian Democratic Party.
Morton would be proud lol.

Thought that you would’ve been a [State Name] Independence Party voter

[Jovuistan]

Isn't giving a campaign speech in a Church against election rules?

[Sanabel]

Isn't giving a campaign speech in a Church against election rules?

Yes, it is against the law

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Isn't giving a campaign speech in a Church against election rules?

Yes, it is against the law

You can pull an Obama, and give a speech eulogizing the ideals of a man that you know

[The Orion Islands]

I’m gonna say this. I’m voting for Trump, but I think he has screwed up the pandemic response. I think he should of issued better shutdown guidance, used the Defense Production Act earlier, reigned in some of the governors, set a better mask example.
But I can’t vote for Joe Biden for the following reasons.
1) I cannot in good conscience vote for a man who will expand abortion like he would.
2) The Democratic Party has drifted so far left that it is really socialist. I oppose all forms of communist and socialist regimes.
3) I don’t think Biden is strong enough against China.
4) I oppose reparations on the principle that we should not pay for the sins of our fathers. Education reform is the answer, not wealth redistribution.
5) Biden would reverse the tax cuts, witch would lead to a recession and hurt small business.

Orion I am center-right, I consider myself a conservative but I am going to be voting for biden

2) I am concerned with the leftward lean of the Democratic party but Joe Biden is not a socialist, we can right the ship in 4 years but we cannot afford 4 more years incompetence. Biden at least has his priorities straight when it comes to the big stuff.
3) Trump has been incredibly ineffective on China. Between begging for Xi to buy more agricultural products to help him, being utterly silent on Hong Kong and the concentration camps, approving of the concentration camps, continually caving in on threats and pushing for embarrassing trade deals... Bolton's book is damning not to mention in the early days of the pandemic trump sent a boatload of PPE to China...
4) Reparations won't pass and Biden doesn't support them
5) Biden will not fully reverse the tax cuts, its in his plan they are going back up about halfway.

I just really don’t know who to vote for. Those are a few reasons I have in my head. I had such trouble with him I’m really trying to do anything to not vote for Biden. As a Catholic, I can’t vote for abortion.
I liked Trump’s policies until the pandemic began. In 2016, I was just disgusted by what he said, but his policies made up for that. If it weren’t for the abortion issue, I would vote for Biden. I do agree that Trump is not the best on China. I didn’t fully think that post through. I might vote Constitutional for President, and vote for a Republican Congress.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

I’m gonna say this. I’m voting for Trump, but I think he has screwed up the pandemic response. I think he should of issued better shutdown guidance, used the Defense Production Act earlier, reigned in some of the governors, set a better mask example.
But I can’t vote for Joe Biden for the following reasons.
1) I cannot in good conscience vote for a man who will expand abortion like he would.
2) The Democratic Party has drifted so far left that it is really socialist. I oppose all forms of communist and socialist regimes.
3) I don’t think Biden is strong enough against China.
4) I oppose reparations on the principle that we should not pay for the sins of our fathers. Education reform is the answer, not wealth redistribution.
5) Biden would reverse the tax cuts, witch would lead to a recession and hurt small business.

Orion I am center-right, I consider myself a conservative but I am going to be voting for biden

2) I am concerned with the leftward lean of the Democratic party but Joe Biden is not a socialist, we can right the ship in 4 years but we cannot afford 4 more years incompetence. Biden at least has his priorities straight when it comes to the big stuff.
3) Trump has been incredibly ineffective on China. Between begging for Xi to buy more agricultural products to help him, being utterly silent on Hong Kong and the concentration camps, approving of the concentration camps, continually caving in on threats and pushing for embarrassing trade deals... Bolton's book is damning not to mention in the early days of the pandemic trump sent a boatload of PPE to China...
4) Reparations won't pass and Biden doesn't support them
5) Biden will not fully reverse the tax cuts, its in his plan they are going back up about halfway.

I will probably be supporting Biden, but I don't think your critique of Trump's handling of China is fair.

I disagree with point 3). What is wrong with asking another country to buy more of your agricultural products? Like it or not China is the US' no.1 trading partner, and I believe it is very important to expand market access for a country's agricultural products. Trump Admin has not been silent on China, unless you have quite literally been living under a rock. In many respects Trump has the most anti-China President in a generation.

1. He has not been silent on Hong Kong, he signed the HKHRDA, just condemned the delaying of elections in Hong Kong, and just crippled HK's ability to serve as a loophole of tariffs by taking away its special trading status
2. His admin has not been silent on the concentration camps, I think the US is the only major country that has approved of sanctions for the concentration camps through the Uighur Act, but I could be wrong. But regardless, there is absolutely nothing that can be done to stop the practice that would be politically feasible at this rate. The UNHRC has already given China the rubber stamp on the matter, thus making multilateral action is completely unfeasible due to the post-Iraq US diplomatic reputation.
3. Trump sent two Senators to visit Taiwan, I don't know how much more realistically you would want at that point on that front
4. Sending PPE to China was frankly good policy at the early days of the pandemic, due to the nature of how pandemics work. Sending PPE to China would slow the further spread of coronavirus, and it would buy time to produce more PPE. It bought time to bring mre
5. Bolton is an unreliable narrator, he was one of the key proponents of the Saddam had WMDs lie, and also claimed Cuba had WMDs. If somebody has had a history of lying on such a grand scale, there is little to put take his uncorroborated word at face value

If there is one thing I agree with Trump on it is his foreign policy(sans the random trade wars those are really stupid)

[Emazia]

Orion I am center-right, I consider myself a conservative but I am going to be voting for biden

2) I am concerned with the leftward lean of the Democratic party but Joe Biden is not a socialist, we can right the ship in 4 years but we cannot afford 4 more years incompetence. Biden at least has his priorities straight when it comes to the big stuff.
3) Trump has been incredibly ineffective on China. Between begging for Xi to buy more agricultural products to help him, being utterly silent on Hong Kong and the concentration camps, approving of the concentration camps, continually caving in on threats and pushing for embarrassing trade deals... Bolton's book is damning not to mention in the early days of the pandemic trump sent a boatload of PPE to China...
4) Reparations won't pass and Biden doesn't support them
5) Biden will not fully reverse the tax cuts, its in his plan they are going back up about halfway.

I just really don’t know who to vote for. Those are a few reasons I have in my head. I had such trouble with him I’m really trying to do anything to not vote for Biden. As a Catholic, I can’t vote for abortion.
I liked Trump’s policies until the pandemic began. In 2016, I was just disgusted by what he said, but his policies made up for that. If it weren’t for the abortion issue, I would vote for Biden. I do agree that Trump is not the best on China. I didn’t fully think that post through. I might vote Constitutional for President, and vote for a Republican Congress.

Isn't the Constitution Party further right than Trump, though?

Their nominee is basically Prendergast on steroids lol

[Dentali]

ANNOUNCEMENT/SURVEY

So you may or may not know I work for a radio station that will remain nameless. We are currently discussing the most important issues of the election for an upcoming project... So to all of you I ask What are the top 5 issues of the 2020 election?

This is purely subjective to you all, say it briefly in your own words and it can be as short or long as you want. This is kinda just the brainstorming phase of this project.

Thank you for your help.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

ANNOUNCEMENT/SURVEY

So you may or may not know I work for a radio station that will remain nameless. We are currently discussing the most important issues of the election for an upcoming project... So to all of you I ask What are the top 5 issues of the 2020 election?

This is purely subjective to you all, say it briefly in your own words and it can be as short or long as you want. This is kinda just the brainstorming phase of this project.

Thank you for your help.

I only have time for 1

1. Foreign Policy: The President has the most control over foreign policy and the like. I personally will not support any candidate/admin that goes on another "nation-building" adventure in the ME. At this point the ME has hit a critical mass of destabilized countries, I think of another country got destabilized in addition to the coming waves of the climate crisis, it will make the early 2010 refugee crisis look like a picnic.

[Emazia]

ANNOUNCEMENT/SURVEY

So you may or may not know I work for a radio station that will remain nameless. We are currently discussing the most important issues of the election for an upcoming project... So to all of you I ask What are the top 5 issues of the 2020 election?

This is purely subjective to you all, say it briefly in your own words and it can be as short or long as you want. This is kinda just the brainstorming phase of this project.

Thank you for your help.

1. Racial issues/BLM
2. The economy
3. COVID-19
4. "Return to normalcy"
5. Climate change

In that exact order.

ANNOUNCEMENT/SURVEY

So you may or may not know I work for a radio station that will remain nameless. We are currently discussing the most important issues of the election for an upcoming project... So to all of you I ask What are the top 5 issues of the 2020 election?

This is purely subjective to you all, say it briefly in your own words and it can be as short or long as you want. This is kinda just the brainstorming phase of this project.

Thank you for your help.

I only have time for 1

1. Foreign Policy: The President has the most control over foreign policy and the like. I personally will not support any candidate/admin that goes on another "nation-building" adventure in the ME. At this point the ME has hit a critical mass of destabilized countries, I think of another country got destabilized in addition to the coming waves of the climate crisis, it will make the early 2010 refugee crisis look like a picnic.

First it was Iraq, then Afghanistan, Israel, Syria and recently Lebanon...

[Solomons Land]

Hey, I am out of the RP now, but I wanted to check to see how you all are doing.

[Emazia]

Hey, I am out of the RP now, but I wanted to check to see how you all are doing.

Oh hey it's the guy with the bisexual flag! Hello, good to see you! This is the guy behind Porter btw, just switched nations. DIdn't get CTE'd or anything, just decided to switch.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

If you want a ranking(no descriptor)

1 Foreign Policy
2. Pandemic
3 Economy
4. Healthcare Costs
5. Income Inequality

[Solomons Land]

ANNOUNCEMENT/SURVEY

So you may or may not know I work for a radio station that will remain nameless. We are currently discussing the most important issues of the election for an upcoming project... So to all of you I ask What are the top 5 issues of the 2020 election?

This is purely subjective to you all, say it briefly in your own words and it can be as short or long as you want. This is kinda just the brainstorming phase of this project.

Thank you for your help.

I mean, I think we all would have wanted the next man not to be an imbecile, but that is clearly too much to expect from the candidates for the President of the United States of America.

[Solomons Land]

Hey, I am out of the RP now, but I wanted to check to see how you all are doing.

Oh hey it's the guy with the bisexual flag! Hello, good to see you! This is the guy behind Porter btw, just switched nations. DIdn't get CTE'd or anything, just decided to switch.

I have told you before, this is not the bisexual flag, this a flag I made that I thought looked cool. Apparently there is a rather unfortunate coincidence.