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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:58 am

Tysklandia wrote:-snip-
If nobody takes the Iron hills, I suppose that would be a decent second choice? :/


This is all looking good so far.

Lavan Tiri wrote:G, do you know that big-ass lake down south of the Iron Hills, bordered with mountains on the western side? Cos I wanna put goblins there.


As James notes, that's the Sea of Rhun, and there are probably Easterlings thereabouts. But the Mountains of Rhun would no doubt have their own fair share of evil folk, like Orcs and Goblins with the odd Stone Troll or Cave Troll. Probably some Wargs too.

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ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.


The Eye commands, and legions shall march in response. Angmar rises.


Thoughts on a force of black-uruks, perhaps commanded by a Nazgul or Olog-hai?


Sure, Uruks are classic fare, though probably only outside Mordor or Isengard in rather small numbers. You could do a Nazgul based out of Dol Guldur, or even Minas Morgul herself. I'd stay away from the Olog-Hai commanding Uruks, since the Uruks are probably significantly smarter than it is.

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Of course, there's always Rohan proper, Gondor, Saruman, Thranduil, and all those lads who I would like to see filled - if you have the time and feel up to it. Having such coordinating forces for the various sides will be rather important.
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Postby Somerania » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:29 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Tysklandia wrote:-snip-
If nobody takes the Iron hills, I suppose that would be a decent second choice? :/


This is all looking good so far.

Lavan Tiri wrote:G, do you know that big-ass lake down south of the Iron Hills, bordered with mountains on the western side? Cos I wanna put goblins there.


As James notes, that's the Sea of Rhun, and there are probably Easterlings thereabouts. But the Mountains of Rhun would no doubt have their own fair share of evil folk, like Orcs and Goblins with the odd Stone Troll or Cave Troll. Probably some Wargs too.

Prusslandia wrote:Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.


The Eye commands, and legions shall march in response. Angmar rises.


Thoughts on a force of black-uruks, perhaps commanded by a Nazgul or Olog-hai?


Sure, Uruks are classic fare, though probably only outside Mordor or Isengard in rather small numbers. You could do a Nazgul based out of Dol Guldur, or even Minas Morgul herself. I'd stay away from the Olog-Hai commanding Uruks, since the Uruks are probably significantly smarter than it is.

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:That’s no problem! I’ll browse a bit further, since there is so much interesting stuff going on in Middle Earth. If you have any particularly interesting spots you’d want filled let me know.


Of course, there's always Rohan proper, Gondor, Saruman, Thranduil, and all those lads who I would like to see filled - if you have the time and feel up to it. Having such coordinating forces for the various sides will be rather important.

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Postby Lavan Tiri » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:32 am

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Lavan Tiri wrote:G, do you know that big-ass lake down south of the Iron Hills, bordered with mountains on the western side? Cos I wanna put goblins there.


As James notes, that's the Sea of Rhun, and there are probably Easterlings thereabouts. But the Mountains of Rhun would no doubt have their own fair share of evil folk, like Orcs and Goblins with the odd Stone Troll or Cave Troll. Probably some Wargs too.


It isn't labeled on my map and now I feel dumb :rofl: but yeehaw
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:42 am

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Well, you write men quite well, in my opinion. And you usually prefer freeform to RPGs. As such, I was thinking that the Prince of Dol Amroth, Imrahil, would be a good place for you to be. Near to the action, but no need to tinker with numbers as much as the main Gondor RPer will be liable to.

What year are we playing in?

From what I am getting right now we are somewhere after the events of the Hobbit (albeit these events are greatly changed here). Thing is...where? Prince Imrahil was born almost a decade after the Hobbit so I suppose we're atleast 30 years after that?

Personally currently wondering what to do?

Mount Gram? Mount Gundabad? Moria?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:25 am

Somerania wrote:I might create a ranger character and will not participate in nation RPing


There's nothing wrong with that, certainly.

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:What year are we playing in?

From what I am getting right now we are somewhere after the events of the Hobbit (albeit these events are greatly changed here). Thing is...where? Prince Imrahil was born almost a decade after the Hobbit so I suppose we're atleast 30 years after that?

Personally currently wondering what to do?

Mount Gram? Mount Gundabad? Moria?

What do ya need?


We're placed in TA 3017, just before the outbreak, canonically, of the War of the Ring. Whether the War follows that timeline is yet to be seen.

As for Gram/Gundabad/Moria, Moria would be, methinks, the most pertinent - since there are Dwarves looking to retake it. Gundabad would be next most important, as the capitol of the Goblins of the Misty Mountains, and Gram of lesser significance.
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Postby Dentali » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:32 am

I would absolutely love to play a nation in this but in term of time commitment no way i could make it work. So i'm going to app as a character. Could i possibly play as an general on the side of Sauron?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:34 am

Dentali wrote:I would absolutely love to play a nation in this but in term of time commitment no way i could make it work. So i'm going to app as a character. Could i possibly play as an general on the side of Sauron?


You certainly could. Or a commander of Gondor, marshal of Rohan, all that jazz.
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Postby Dentali » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:44 am

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Dentali wrote:I would absolutely love to play a nation in this but in term of time commitment no way i could make it work. So i'm going to app as a character. Could i possibly play as an general on the side of Sauron?


You certainly could. Or a commander of Gondor, marshal of Rohan, all that jazz.



As much as i'd enjoy that... i think having some active baddies helps move the plot along. So i'll make a Black Numenorian general
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Postby The Knights of Azorea » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:57 am

Very tempted by the prospect of Forlong the (not-yet-so) Fat down in Lossarnach, fighting off the hosts from across the river, but equally if not more drawn to the more significant climes of Orthanc or Mirkwood. I'll give it a think and see how some drafts go before getting an application in.

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Postby Dentali » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:06 am

Name: Dôlguzagar son of Tarîkmagân

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Role: General of Sauron’s Armies in the North/ General of Agmar

Alignment: Sauron/ Agmar

History: Born in Agmar in 2934 T.A. among the Black Numenorians, Dôlguzagar knew what it was to grow up cold and hungry, at the same time he was told constantly of the former glory of the Numenoreans and grew up with a great resentment of Elves, Men and the Gods of the West. After the death of Thorin II Oakenshield and the rise of the forces of Sauron in the North in 2941 Dôlguzagar’s tribe became hugely important force for Sauron, with them forming the backbone of a resurgent Kingdom of Agmar. His father became known as Tarîkmagân or Tower-Builder as he spearheaded the construction efforts of fortifications throughout the region.

Dôlguzagar quickly became known as a military prodigy, arming himself with a black blade he warred against the many wild tribes of men and orcs in the North and the Anduin Vale distinguishing himself and was notably among a force sent to assist in the reoccupation of Dol Guldur in 2951. Through the decades Dôlguzagar showed time and again his skill in battle and in military strategy, as well as his ruthlessness as he killed several of his comrades while seeking greater ranks. Now as one of the top generals of Agmar he looks to invade the territories West of the Misty Mountains and create a new empire for the Numenorians.


Other: Commands a large army and has a dozen knights sworn to his personal command willing to fight and die for him. Has a beautiful blade blade.
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:43 am

You made a lot of nice conversion rates G-Tech.

You put so much attention on spiders though that I must ask what the conversion rates for Wargs, Bats, Trolls and Mumakil are? Drakes too? Oh, and Uruk-hai since I assume Saruman's had his orcs shagging Dunlending wives already by now?

So the lesser men involves all the non-Numenorians, yes? So Middle Men/Northmen and Men of Darkness?
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Postby Danceria » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:47 am

What is the nature of the Easterlings, and their relationship with the Men of Dale, the Dwarves of Erebor and the Iron Hills, and of course Smaug apparently.
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Danceria wrote:What is the nature of the Easterlings, and their relationship with the Men of Dale, the Dwarves of Erebor and the Iron Hills, and of course Smaug apparently.

prolly wrong to call 'em Men of Dale and Dwarves of Erebor, considering that Dale ain't resettled qnd neither's Erebor. Smaug would have to die for that to be possible.

So currently it's more like Men of Esgaroth and Dwarves of the Iron Hills.
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Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
Danceria wrote:What is the nature of the Easterlings, and their relationship with the Men of Dale, the Dwarves of Erebor and the Iron Hills, and of course Smaug apparently.

prolly wrong to call 'em Men of Dale and Dwarves of Erebor, considering that Dale ain't resettled qnd neither's Erebor. Smaug would have to die for that to be possible.

So currently it's more like Men of Esgaroth and Dwarves of the Iron Hills.

Well, can the Easterlings hang with them? Perhaps by proxy order of Sauron the Affably Evil because while Dragons and Dwarves have many similarities, Dwarves can be loyal and actually make the shiny bits whereas Smaug can be a bit of a diva.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:15 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:You made a lot of nice conversion rates G-Tech.

You put so much attention on spiders though that I must ask what the conversion rates for Wargs, Bats, Trolls and Mumakil are? Drakes too? Oh, and Uruk-hai since I assume Saruman's had his orcs shagging Dunlending wives already by now?

So the lesser men involves all the non-Numenorians, yes? So Middle Men/Northmen and Men of Darkness?


Hm, let’s see. Wargs I covered under mounting troops, though if you want them as their own unit I could add that. Bats I’m not aware of being larger than normal in Tolkien’s mythos, so they’re probably a bit ancillary to add as a troop type. Trolls and Mumakil I intended to add once someone had a city to recruit them in, but I can do that now, ditto Drakes.

Uruks are actually, in Tolkien’s backstory, different than the Goblin-Men Saruman bred.

Rather, those without Numenorean blood in decent quantities. Dunlendings, Southrons, Bree-Men, etc. Black Numenoreans, Dunedain, and Men of Gondor are ‘High Men’.
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Postby Elerian » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:17 pm

I'll take Gondor if its still open.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:20 pm

Elerian wrote:I'll take Gondor if its still open.


Delightful. I was hoping someone would show up to fill Old Denethor’s spot.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:35 pm

Danceria wrote:
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:prolly wrong to call 'em Men of Dale and Dwarves of Erebor, considering that Dale ain't resettled qnd neither's Erebor. Smaug would have to die for that to be possible.

So currently it's more like Men of Esgaroth and Dwarves of the Iron Hills.

Well, can the Easterlings hang with them? Perhaps by proxy order of Sauron the Affably Evil because while Dragons and Dwarves have many similarities, Dwarves can be loyal and actually make the shiny bits whereas Smaug can be a bit of a diva.


Well, Easterlings trade extensively with the Black Dwarves - Durins Kin probably consider that an issue though.
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Postby Elerian » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:38 pm

I'm confused, what's the point of having Thorin's quest fail? The realms of man were already in a shitty situation as it was, why was it necessary to make it worse?

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Postby The Baton Rouge Free State » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:42 pm

This looks very interesting. I was thinking of playing as the Woodland Realm (the elven kingdom in Mirkwood where Legolas is from), however the Woodland Realm is traditionally reserved to the territories only in the north of Mirkwood, which many fans estimate to have a population of around 30,000 (compared to estimates of around 540,000 for Rohan and 6.5-10 Million for Gondor), I was merely wondering if I could take the entirety of mirkwood as my territory and boost my population to say around 50 or 60 thousand, just for the sake of being more relevant, if not its fine, I can still play as the Woodland Realm, or go with Lothlorien, but I just wanted to make sure before I started an app.

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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:43 pm

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We're placed in TA 3017, just before the outbreak, canonically, of the War of the Ring. Whether the War follows that timeline is yet to be seen.

As for Gram/Gundabad/Moria, Moria would be, methinks, the most pertinent - since there are Dwarves looking to retake it. Gundabad would be next most important, as the capitol of the Goblins of the Misty Mountains, and Gram of lesser significance.

Eh, I am a sucker for Moria but not so sure about its location and a Dwarf Expedition looking to come in like a wrecking ball isn't the most delightful of prospects, even if I win. Not to mention that Durin's Bane's still there.

Gundabad's an option but it's REALLY at the edge of everything.

Gram's prolly a more solid option. Possible allies in Angmar and the rest of the Misties.Strong control over the Ettenmoors and Trollshaws. Prospects practically all across Eriador.

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Hm, let’s see. Wargs I covered under mounting troops, though if you want them as their own unit I could add that. Bats I’m not aware of being larger than normal in Tolkien’s mythos, so they’re probably a bit ancillary to add as a troop type. Trolls and Mumakil I intended to add once someone had a city to recruit them in, but I can do that now, ditto Drakes.

Uruks are actually, in Tolkien’s backstory, different than the Goblin-Men Saruman bred.

Rather, those without Numenorean blood in decent quantities. Dunlendings, Southrons, Bree-Men, etc. Black Numenoreans, Dunedain, and Men of Gondor are ‘High Men’.

Well, Wargs made up one of the armies of of the Battle of the Five Armies so I'd think they'd prolly get to be single units as well if even the spiders do, prolly even with great Wargs as their own 'larger version'. And I suppose I am a bit too influenced there by GW's tabletop stragegy game which featured the bats as a unit for use. Well...if I had the Trollshaws and Ettenmoors, which are supposedly crawling with those things...

I know the Uruks and the Uruk-hai are different, hence why I am asking what the Uruk-hai's/Goblin-Men's conversion rates to elves are as they aren't listed.

Dunlendings, Southrons and Breemen have Numenorean blood? As far as I am aware they don't, especcially not the Southrons. It's more like the people of Umbar have by now mostly Southron blood and some mixed/Black Numenorean holding on. Dunlendings and Breemen were of the same people as the Numenoreans but didn't go to Numenor and never really got elevated.
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