The Third Age: The War for Middle-Earth [OOC|Open]

[G-Tech Corporation]

G-Tech, if I would apply as Esgaroth, could possibly Brand is the Mayor of Laketown? And what would the city tier be (I guess probably Tier IV since Esgaroth is larger than Venice at the movies)

Yep, I have no qualms with that, if you can justify it in your backstory. Esgaroth as a Tier IV is fine. It is probably one of the three or four largest settlements of men at the moment.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I mean, you have a long and treasured history of raiding and enslaving Rhovanion for pretty much the entirety of the Third Age.

A lot will need to happen for that to be overcome I suppose.

Oh...

Wait, who even lives close enough to be enslaved without Smaug smoking us?

Pretty much anything that lives and moves lol.

So I suppose the Iron Hill Dwarves. Esgaroth. Dorwinion. Thranduil's Realm in Mirkwood. The Galadhrim of Lothlorien. The Rohirrim. Gondorians.

Basically everyone that still lives lol.

Considering that in the Third Age, the Eastelings lived practically all around the Sea of Rhun and raided in Rohan, in the Gladden Fields and in Gondor/Ithilien.

Interesting map. Is the tiling from a RPG or something like that?

Gondor does not hold Ithilien, but it does hold the west banks of Osgiliath. Mordor is really only Mordor proper, though obviously their patrols and garrisons extend after a manner into Ithilien.

I'll have to see if I can find a better map. Without landmarks, folks are going to struggle to use it.

No idea. As I said, it was used in a SA LotR RP once and I dug it out from there.

And yeah, sure, as said, I am not fully on board with that map either, having used it mainly due to the ease of colouring it in. Love myself my tile maps.

G-Tech, if I would apply as Esgaroth, could possibly Brand is the Mayor of Laketown? And what would the city tier be (I guess probably Tier IV since Esgaroth is larger than Venice at the movies)

Yep, I have no qualms with that, if you can justify it in your backstory. Esgaroth as a Tier IV is fine. It is probably one of the three or four largest settlements of men at the moment.

Third or fourth largest settlement of Men? How?

[Danceria]

Pretty much anything that lives and moves lol.

So I suppose the Iron Hill Dwarves. Esgaroth. Dorwinion. Thranduil's Realm in Mirkwood. The Galadhrim of Lothlorien. The Rohirrim. Gondorians.

Basically everyone that still lives lol.

Considering that in the Third Age, the Eastelings lived practically all around the Sea of Rhun and raided in Rohan, in the Gladden Fields and in Gondor/Ithilien.

Excuse me I rock up to Granny Galadriel's crib and yoink her shit?!
Here I was thinking I was the captain of a great expedition to kick out Goblins and subjugate Hoomans for the glory of Fantasy China, but sounds like I got a full military industrial complex...

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Pretty much anything that lives and moves lol.

So I suppose the Iron Hill Dwarves. Esgaroth. Dorwinion. Thranduil's Realm in Mirkwood. The Galadhrim of Lothlorien. The Rohirrim. Gondorians.

Basically everyone that still lives lol.

Considering that in the Third Age, the Eastelings lived practically all around the Sea of Rhun and raided in Rohan, in the Gladden Fields and in Gondor/Ithilien.

Excuse me I rock up to Granny Galadriel's crib and yoink her shit?!
Here I was thinking I was the captain of a great expedition to kick out Goblins and subjugate Hoomans for the glory of Fantasy China, but sounds like I got a full military industrial complex...

I mean...yeah...the Balchoth, which were Easterlings, lived inbetween Mirkwood and the Sea of Rhun...and they frequently raided through Mirkwood and into the Gladden Fields...so much that the local Stoors and Eotheod abandoned it.

They also made the large scale assault on Calenardhon which ended up with the Eotheod under Eorl crushing 'em and the birth of Rohan.

So yeah, Easterlings are scary.

[Sarderia]

Oh...

Wait, who even lives close enough to be enslaved without Smaug smoking us?

Pretty much anything that lives and moves lol.

So I suppose the Iron Hill Dwarves. Esgaroth. Dorwinion. Thranduil's Realm in Mirkwood. The Galadhrim of Lothlorien. The Rohirrim. Gondorians.

Basically everyone that still lives lol.

Considering that in the Third Age, the Eastelings lived practically all around the Sea of Rhun and raided in Rohan, in the Gladden Fields and in Gondor/Ithilien.

Interesting map. Is the tiling from a RPG or something like that?

Gondor does not hold Ithilien, but it does hold the west banks of Osgiliath. Mordor is really only Mordor proper, though obviously their patrols and garrisons extend after a manner into Ithilien.

I'll have to see if I can find a better map. Without landmarks, folks are going to struggle to use it.

No idea. As I said, it was used in a SA LotR RP once and I dug it out from there.

And yeah, sure, as said, I am not fully on board with that map either, having used it mainly due to the ease of colouring it in. Love myself my tile maps.

Yep, I have no qualms with that, if you can justify it in your backstory. Esgaroth as a Tier IV is fine. It is probably one of the three or four largest settlements of men at the moment.

Third or fourth largest settlement of Men? How?

Discounting the Easterling cities and whatever Rohan could muster (Edoras is more of a village than city) Esgaroth is pretty much the largest Human city in Middle-Earth, second to Gondorian cities such as Dol Amroth and Minas Tirith.

[Danceria]

I mean...yeah...the Balchoth, which were Easterlings, lived inbetween Mirkwood and the Sea of Rhun...and they frequently raided through Mirkwood and into the Gladden Fields...so much that the local Stoors and Eotheod abandoned it.

They also made the large scale assault on Calenardhon which ended up with the Eotheod under Eorl crushing 'em and the birth of Rohan.

So yeah, Easterlings are scary.

Wow...I guess I'll alter myself accordingly.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Discounting the Easterling cities and whatever Rohan could muster (Edoras is more of a village than city) Esgaroth is pretty much the largest Human city in Middle-Earth, second to Gondorian cities such as Dol Amroth and Minas Tirith.

Not deny your claim to a Tier IV settlement, I think Esgaroth is deserving of it.

But discounting Easterlings, Haradrim, Variags and Rohirrim already does shake that claim. And hey, Edoras does get to call itself a city, Esgaroth only a town. And Rohan still gets to muster the previous capital of Aldburg as well in this ranking.

You also discount Pelargir and Linhir, the former atleast being described as a great city of Gondor and its foremost harbour and the other still getting to call itself a town too.

That aside...uh...the list of confirmed human settlements that are not in ruins/unpopulated is sparse. Bree is the only one that would come to mind.

I mean...yeah...the Balchoth, which were Easterlings, lived inbetween Mirkwood and the Sea of Rhun...and they frequently raided through Mirkwood and into the Gladden Fields...so much that the local Stoors and Eotheod abandoned it.

They also made the large scale assault on Calenardhon which ended up with the Eotheod under Eorl crushing 'em and the birth of Rohan.

So yeah, Easterlings are scary.

Wow...I guess I'll alter myself accordingly.

I dunno, what were you planning?

From what it sounded like, you seemed to want to do an expedition rather than the full might of the Easterlings...which was scary, considering that they fought the campaign in the north, culminating in the battle of Dale which, apparently, doesn't have confirmed numbers but a lot of people like to throw the number of a 200.000 strong Easterling host around...and that at the same time as they fought for Sauron at the Morannon and after having previously lost sizeable forces in the battle of the Pelennor Fields.

[Danceria]

I dunno, what were you planning?

From what it sounded like, you seemed to want to do an expedition rather than the full might of the Easterlings...which was scary, considering that they fought the campaign in the north, culminating in the battle of Dale which, apparently, doesn't have confirmed numbers but a lot of people like to throw the number of a 200.000 strong Easterling host around...and that at the same time as they fought for Sauron at the Morannon and after having previously lost sizeable forces in the battle of the Pelennor Fields.

Initially, I was thinking of an expedition sent by the people of Rhun in order to settle Rhovanion and the West, befriending and trying to find a balance between mooching off of Sauron and making sure the plot armoured locals of Elves, Dwarves, and Men don't kick their teeth in. Or perhaps eventually becoming so powerful of a faction it gains independence and fills the power vacuum left by the Galadhrim when the Elves ultimately perform the ultimate "aight, imma head out".

TL;DR: (possibly) Screw you Sauron, we're forming our own Lawful and Affably Evil faction, with blackjack and hookers!
OR
We're the guys who help smooth over relations with the subjugated peoples when/if Sauron takes over the world.

[G-Tech Corporation]

TL;DR: (possibly) Screw you Sauron, we're forming our own Lawful and Affably Evil faction, with blackjack and hookers!

Turning against your physical god, tsk tsk.

[Danceria]

TL;DR: (possibly) Screw you Sauron, we're forming our own Lawful and Affably Evil faction, with blackjack and hookers!

Turning against your physical god, tsk tsk.

I never said they would succeed, just a thought.

[Lavan Tiri]

Realm: Burzlug

Leader: Ghuzzi the Bloodstained

Race(s): Goblins, Spiders

History:

Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Faction Bonuses:

Territory: The mountains on the Western shore of the Sea of Rhun

Settlements: Burzlug, built within the ruins of an ancient Dwarven settlement. Tier IV.

Strength:
Defenses: Palisades around the entrance to Burzlug. Thick stone walls due to being built within a mountain--equivalent to ramparts.

Forces:
- 10,000 Goblins
- 1,000 Lesser Spiders
- 15 Greater Spiders

[Dentali]

Any reason my app hasn't been reviewed?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Any reason my app hasn't been reviewed?

Offhand, you don't appear to have edited to include my feedback, so, there's that.

[Ralnis]

All these ev factions trying to strike out on their own and away from Sauron. Too bad they ain't a dragon.

[Ralnis]

What's the difference between lesser men and higher men? Is it the difference between common peasant and nobility?

[G-Tech Corporation]

What's the difference between lesser men and higher men? Is it the difference between common peasant and nobility?

Higher Men are those with the blood of Westernesse in their veins, basically Gondorians or Black Numenoreans/Dunedain. Everybody else are 'Lesser Men'.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

What's the difference between lesser men and higher men? Is it the difference between common peasant and nobility?

Higher Men aka Numenoreans are basically...uh...pretty long lived men (100-300 years lifespan at this point I believe), generally also braver, smarter, taller and stronger than the lesser men.

So yeah, they're literally "higher" men.

Which they used to exploit heavily back in yhe days of old Numenor. The Dunlendings can surely tell you many tales of it.

[Ralnis]

What's the difference between lesser men and higher men? Is it the difference between common peasant and nobility?

Higher Men aka Numenoreans are basically...uh...pretty long lived men (100-300 years lifespan at this point I believe), generally also braver, smarter, taller and stronger than the lesser men.

So yeah, they're literally "higher" men.

Which they used to exploit heavily back in yhe days of old Numenor. The Dunlendings can surely tell you many tales of it.

Well, good thing I'm not even remotely close to both of them. Gondor would be crushed by Mordor anyway. That just leaves the Elves, other dragons, Grey Mountain orcs/goblins, lesser men, spiders of Shelob, and the Dwarves to worry about.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Higher Men aka Numenoreans are basically...uh...pretty long lived men (100-300 years lifespan at this point I believe), generally also braver, smarter, taller and stronger than the lesser men.

So yeah, they're literally "higher" men.

Which they used to exploit heavily back in yhe days of old Numenor. The Dunlendings can surely tell you many tales of it.

Well, good thing I'm not even remotely close to both of them. Gondor would be crushed by Mordor anyway. That just leaves the Elves, other dragons, Grey Mountain orcs/goblins, lesser men, spiders of Shelob, and the Dwarves to worry about.

Sounds like more than enough to worry about.

[Ralnis]

Well, good thing I'm not even remotely close to both of them. Gondor would be crushed by Mordor anyway. That just leaves the Elves, other dragons, Grey Mountain orcs/goblins, lesser men, spiders of Shelob, and the Dwarves to worry about.

Sounds like more than enough to worry about.

The pains of trying to be independent. But I'm guessing the Orcs of the Misty would try to send a diplomatic envoy to the Labyrinth to try and establish some sort of deal?

[The Baton Rouge Free State]

Realm: Woodland Realm
Leader: King Thuranduil
Race(s): Silvan Elves
History: The Woodland Realm was founded in 750 CE after the War of Wrath, by the Sindarin Elf, Oropher. Oropher, unlike the other Sindarin elves, declined the Valar's offer to leave middle earth and go to Valinor. Instead lead a group of Silvan elves to occupy what, at the the time, was known as Greenwood the Great (Mirkwood). The Woodland Realm established its capital in a fortress in the south of the woods at Amon Lanc, however around 1800 SA, he vacated the southern portions of the wood due to encroachments from the Dwarves of Moria and disagreements with the elves at Lothlorien. By the end of the second a further vacation of southern lands was undertaken due to fear of Saurons rising forces. In SA 3430, Oropher led his forces against Sauron in the Last Alliance of Elves and Men, he would perish shortly after the war and be succeeded by his son Thuranduil. Around 1050 TA, the fortress of Amon Lanc would become infested with Orcs and the home of an evil entity known as the Necromancer. Thuranduil retreated further north after skirmishes with Orcs, past the Enchanted river, where he would construct a new fortress known as the Elvenking's Halls.
Alignment: Largely inactive externally since the fall of Erebor, however, they certainly lean toward the side of the free men and against Sauron
Faction Bonuses: (Will be determined by me based on history, or are pre-generated for canon factions.)
Territory:(Map or just details are fine)
Settlements: 1 Tier Three, 1 Tier Four, 3 Tier Ones
Strength: 1,400 Elves

WIP

Looks good so far. I'd put the Wood-King's Halls as a Tier III, for what it is worth, and would only know of a few other small settlements in lore, but I'm curious what you have there. As for strength, that's probably a bit low - the Wood-Elves mustered at least two thousands to the Battle of the Five Armies, and I can't think that that would have been all of their warriors. Three or four thousands I would happily accept.

I was actually thinking the Elvenking's Halls would be Tier III. My plan was since the battle of five armies didnt happen, then Thuranduil would instead muster his forces to retake the south of Mirkwood after Galadriel and the White Council pushed the Necromancer out of Dol Guldur (Amon Lanc). And Amon Lanc would become the Tier Four settlement. Also thanks, I'll make those adjustments to the troop strength.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Looks good so far. I'd put the Wood-King's Halls as a Tier III, for what it is worth, and would only know of a few other small settlements in lore, but I'm curious what you have there. As for strength, that's probably a bit low - the Wood-Elves mustered at least two thousands to the Battle of the Five Armies, and I can't think that that would have been all of their warriors. Three or four thousands I would happily accept.

I was actually thinking the Elvenking's Halls would be Tier III. My plan was since the battle of five armies didnt happen, then Thuranduil would instead muster his forces to retake the south of Mirkwood after Galadriel and the White Council pushed the Necromancer out of Dol Guldur (Amon Lanc). And Amon Lanc would become the Tier Four settlement. Also thanks, I'll make those adjustments to the troop strength.

Hm, that's a good thought. Reoccupying a deserted settlement won't fill it with Elves though - that's what Settlement Tier is reflective of, population.

[The Baton Rouge Free State]

I was actually thinking the Elvenking's Halls would be Tier III. My plan was since the battle of five armies didnt happen, then Thuranduil would instead muster his forces to retake the south of Mirkwood after Galadriel and the White Council pushed the Necromancer out of Dol Guldur (Amon Lanc). And Amon Lanc would become the Tier Four settlement. Also thanks, I'll make those adjustments to the troop strength.

Hm, that's a good thought. Reoccupying a deserted settlement won't fill it with Elves though - that's what Settlement Tier is reflective of, population.

Ahh fair enough, so then I'd assume it'd be a Teir II max.

[Dentali]

Any reason my app hasn't been reviewed?

Offhand, you don't appear to have edited to include my feedback, so, there's that.

totally missed your feedback


EDIT I looked through the OOC i still dont see it

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Offhand, you don't appear to have edited to include my feedback, so, there's that.

totally missed your feedback


EDIT I looked through the OOC i still dont see it

Apart from the part about Black Numenoreans, which he accidentally addressed at Tysk instead of you, I can't think of any either.