Aftermath of Empire [closed]

[Plzen]

Ah, a pity. I really wanted to make a developed Malaya since it's very well suited to be an economic power.

If you really want to roleplay as a hyper-developed state with more money than it knows what to do with, play a settler state on the American west coast. :p

[The Baton Rouge Free State]

Kingdom of Hawai'i
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DEMOGRAPHICS
The population of Hawai'i is around 12 Million, of that around 7.2 Million live in Honolulu, the nations capital. The remaining population lives largely on the islands of Hawai'i and Kauai, with the nations second and third largest metropolitan areas being on Hawai'i, fourth largest on Kauai, and the fifth largest on the island of Maui. These urban areas are as follows:
1. Honolulu Metro Area - 7.2 Million
2. Hilo Metro Area - 1.1 Million
3. Kona Metro Area - 840 Thousand
4. Lihue Metro Area - 609 Thousand
5. Kahalui Metro Area - 541 Thousand

Racially, around 30% of the Population identifies as Pacific Islander or of Pacific Island Decent, 15% are of Asian decent, and 50% are of mixed race decent. The remaining 5% is largely of South Asian or other decent. Linguistically around 99.8% of the population is literate and native fluency in Hawaiian, around 56% is literate in Cantonese, but around 69% is conversational in it. Around 81% of the population identifies as non religious but following practices of traditional Hawaiian belief, a further 10% are Buddhist, with 2% observing Confucian, the remaining 7% are Atheist/Agnostic.

Culturally the nation is predominantly Hawaiian. In Hawaiian culture, life is based around the idea of "Aloha", essentially the ideas of Kindness/Respect, Inner and Outer Peace, and Responsibility. The Hawaiian greeting instead of a handshake is known as a Homi, touching forehead to forehead. In Hawaiian culture there is a big emphasis on family, its common on weekends to hold Luau's or traditional feasts with family. There are also several festivals throughout the year including Hula Festivals, Aloha Festivals, and holidays such as the King's birthday. Traditional Hawaiian food includes a lot of emphasis on Pork, tropical fruits, and fish; the most common sea food being squid, salmon, and tuna. For entertainment, Hawaiians love to be outdoors, and park space is often tucked into cities on the top of buildings, or in community park spaces. Even in the dense city of Honolulu, there is still a lot of available hiking in the surrounding mountains. The beach is another popular spot to go and enjoy a day. In terms of sports, the most popular sport is Pahau (essentially Rugby), the national Pahau league was created in 2360, and comprises 8 teams:
Honolulu Rainbow Warriors, Waikiki Wayfarers, Oahu Chiefs, Pearl City Hogs, Lihue Dolphins, Hilo Typhoons, Kona Volcanoes, and the Maui Blossoms. Other popular sports include Basketball, Wrestling, Surfing, and Football.

DIPLOMACY
Hawaii is in an neutral position geopolitically, the nation's location places it far away from foreign powers which allowed it to develop relatively unaffected by foreign influence. Furthermore, its position as a neutral ground between North America and Asia makes it a somewhat of a buffer state, with neither side of the pacific having strong interests on the island chain. Historically, Hawai'i has maintained fair relations with Japan, however, Hawai'i bases its diplomatic policy off a position of armed neutrality. As of yet, Hawai'i has no outstanding military alliances or major rivalries, and the Hawai'ian people are happy with this state, as it allows trade to flow through the nation. Hawaii is an active trade partner with many states in North America and Asia, it has some trade with the Middle East, South Asia, and Southeast Asia, and only a little trade with Europe. It is the cultural and economic hub of the pacific and the oceania region, and has a lot of operations throughout the region economically.

Hawaiis Military known as the Hawaiian Defense Forces, it is divided into three branches, the Hawaiian Land Defense Force (HLDF), the Hawaiian Naval Defense Force (HNDF), and the Hawaiian Sky Defense Force (HSDF). The military exercises loose conscription although there are quite a few ways to get out of conscription from attending college, to medical issues. Conscripts are only required to serve for one year, however, if they choose to continue as a professional soldier, after five years they qualify for light benefits including a small pension after retirement, access to the Military job finding and university connection services, and mental health services. After 15 years, soldiers qualify for a full pension, all military alumni services, and resettlement aid (monetary support in buying/renting a new house). The HDF has a total of 160,000 Active Troops, with around 340,000 Reservists. The HLDF's primary training grounds are at the Kaneohe Military Compound, the HLDF has around 80,000 Active Troops with 270,000 Reservists. The HLDF operates the following equipment:
200x Tanks
1,000x Armored Vehicles
3,000x Amphibious Combat Vehicles
800x Light Boats
110x Beach Assault Tanks
90x SPAs
20x Towed Artillery
20x Rocket Projectors
The HLDF is largely focused around conducting amphibious and jungle warfare, and bases most of its training and strategy around building up these components. As such, all enlisted men are required to learn to swim, hold their breath under water for 1 minute, and conduct beach operations. These requirement become more demanding for professional soldiers. The HNDF has its main training base at Kukio Point naval station. The HNDF has around 60,000 Active Troops with another 60,000 in Reservists. The HNDF consists of the following vessels:
6x Destroyers
12x Frigates
21x Corvettes
16x Submarines
25x Patrol Vessels
8x Mine Warfare Vessels
The official HNDF prefix for ships is HDV (Hawaiian Defense Vessel). The largest HNDF base is the Pearl Harbor Naval Base. The Naval force is focused around anti piracy and monitoring operations, its defense strategy is largely focused on close coastal support and submarine offensives, reserving engagements to choice locations. The HSDF has its main training base at Wahiawi Airfield, but its largest bases are the Kaunakakai Air Field, and the Kamehameha Air Base. Its contains the equipment:
99x Fighters
110x Dedicated Attack Craft
30x Transport Planes
26x Special Mission Aircraft
90x Trainers
480x Helicopters
--49x Attack Helicopters
The KSDF largely focuses its defense strategy and doctrine around ground and naval support and aerial defense, with many radar monitoring stations and anti aircraft weapons focused around the country. In peace time, many of its efforts are dedicated to rescue and environmental management operations, as well as preparation and monitoring.

ECONOMY
The country is quite developed. It's location directly between the two richest regions of the world (East Asia and the North American West Coast) is very advantageous for trade. It began its rise economically in the mid 2200s, along with increases in trans pacific trade. In the late 2200s it became one of the largest producers of Sugar cane, Tropical Fruit, and Koa wood. In the early 2300s it developed a large fishing industry, and developed industry in many large towns to move the food processing facilities to location, it also developed a large ship building industry. In the late 2300s it began development of its tourism and entertainment sector. With the city of Kahalui becoming a large entertainment and gambling hub in the world. Increases in population and wealth saw a large tech and services industry develop as well, with 3 of the 20 largest business consulting firms in the world headquartered in Honolulu, and 2 of the worlds 50 largest banks (Merchant's Bank, and the Bank of Hawai'i). Honolulu is definitively the economic hub of the country, with the massive Pearl Harbor as a central shipping hub in the world. The nations largest exports are business services, technology, ships, processed foods and goods, sugar and sweeteners, and medicine/pharmaceuticals. Its largest imports are Metals, Textiles, Rice and Wheat, Oil, Batteries, and Industrial Chemicals. The currency in Hawaii, the Hawaiian Kasa, is issued in 20, 50, 100, and 200 Kasa bank notes, with 1, 2, 5, and 10 Kasa coins. The Kasa is subdivided into Keneta, at values of 50 Keneta, 25 Keneta, and 10 Keneta. The Kasa is worth around .8 2019 USD. The GDP per capita in Hawai'i is around 38,750 Kasa, making the GDP roughly 465 Billion Kasa (372 Million 2019 USD). The HDI in Hawai'i is 0.92, among the highest in the world.

GEOGRAPHY
The country consists of the entire Hawaiian Island Chain, the Midway Atoll ('Ailea Atoll in this world), and the Johnson Atoll (Pa'au Atoll). The country is divided into 15 Kala, these are:

East Hawai'i Island
West Hawai'i Island
Maui Island
Central Islands (Kaho'olawe and Lanai)
Moloka'i Island
Waimea (East Honolulu)
Waikiki
Honolulu City
Pearl City
Ewa City
East Oahu
Central Oahu
West Oahu
Kauai
Far West (Ni'ihau, 'Ailea Atoll, Pa'au Atoll)

Hawaii has a tropical climate, and many of the islands were formed via volcanoes, there are still several active volcanoes in the country, with the biggest being Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea at 4,170 meters and 4,205 meters respectively. With the tropical climate comes a lot of rain and sometimes flooding, as such Hawaiian cities have flood protection systems, and there are well developed storm drains in many of the nations cities. There is also volcano warning systems, and volcano insurance is sold separately from other insurance in the nation. Many of the nations cities are very densely populated as well. The mountainous terrain often forces cities to stay in compact valleys. To ensure that cities are still livable there is a very well developed public transportation network. In regards to roadways, there are highways, large roads, and small roads, that the road system is divided into. However, overall car use is relatively low, this is because the nation has a well developed mass transit system. The Honolulu Mass Transit Network (known as the "Wiki" by residents) has 12 lines, across the southern half of Oahu. The northern suburbs of the island are reached by the massive bus network, the several highways, and the city link monorail system, with 3 lines to the northern shores. Hilo and Kona both have their own metro systems, and the two cities are connected by the Maglev line constructed in 2391. Lihue and Kahalui both have Metro Systems as well, however these five cities are the only ones with full metro systems. Several large towns including Kaunakakai, Kailua, Waimea, and Pu'uwai have light rail systems. Between islands, there is the Airlink, and Ferries. The Airlink is a government owned airline of 20 Aircraft, which operate flights between the various major islands in Hawai'i. Tickets for an airlink flight range from 10 Kasa to a peak of 30 Kasa for the flight from Pu'uwai to Hilo. There also exists Hawaiian Airlines, the premier national airline, they also offer inter island flights, which are often subsidized by the government. There are 5 International Airports in Hawai'i, Kamehameha Honolulu Airport, Ali'i Nui Hilo Airport, Liliuokalani Kona Airport, Keoni Ana Kahalui Airport, and Lunalilo Lihue Airport. There are many smaller airstrips across the country, but these are largely used by airlink services or for cargo and recreational use. The largest airport is Kamehameha Honolulu Airport which is the primary point of contact for air travel internationally. The nation gets most of its water resources from desalinzation plants, however before the plants were constructed most of its water came from fresh water reservoirs and small rivers, where around 29% of eater resources still come from. Electrical Resources are around 10% from Hyrdo Power, 19% from Wind, 11% from Solar, 45% Geothermal, 5% Nuclear, and 10% Fossil Fuels (largely Oil).


HISTORY
(your nation's history; the point-of-divergence is the 221AD, or 772 Confucian Year)

POLITICS
(discuss the structure and legitimacy of your government, how stable your state is, norms of governance, ideology, etc)

WIP

[Grand Indochina]

Hello fellow role-play participants ! I present you the Ashtangon Map : Right here ! Click me mate !

For now, there are only two countries on the map : Nippon in coffee color (The V O I D) and Min Confederation in beige color (The Pearl River).

Please ignore the country in white !

Also, The Pearl River can you give me a description of your country location but in real-world terminology ? I were quiet confused when coloring your country last night.

[The Pearl River]

Hello fellow role-play participants ! I present you the Ashtangon Map : Right here ! Click me mate !

For now, there are only two countries on the map : Nippon in coffee color (The V O I D) and Min Confederation in beige color (The Pearl River).

Please ignore the country in white !

Also, The Pearl River can you give me a description of your country location but in real-world terminology ? I were quiet confused when coloring your country last night.

Fujian, Taiwan, and the Philippines.



Here’s a photo that i totally not stole from a previous RP

[The Pearl River]

so did the chinese used europeans and africans as slaves during the colonial times?

[Plzen]

so did the chinese used europeans and africans as slaves during the colonial times?

Yes. Both the Roman and West African worlds had active internal slave trades. Connecting this trade with customers in the New World or back in the Central continent would have been an obvious to-do when global trade started to kick off in the 1800s.

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

Hmmm, Rome never divided into East and West in this timeline right?

[Plzen]

Hmmm, Rome never divided into East and West in this timeline right?

It remained by and large united - there may have been brief periods of civil strife or interregnum. You may wish to discuss that with our Europa player when we get one, if your history relies on there being one such period.

[Danceria]

so did the chinese used europeans and africans as slaves during the colonial times?

Yes. Both the Roman and West African worlds had active internal slave trades. Connecting this trade with customers in the New World or back in the Central continent would have been an obvious to-do when global trade started to kick off in the 1800s.

Cursed and Barbary/Irishpilled.

Hmmm, Rome never divided into East and West in this timeline right?

Wanna be Colonia? Prefect/Big chonk province under me? Rump state of Crusader Dacia?

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

alright
it's time

Does anyone own Bavaria?
If not, I'll just...slap down a Germanic version of Ba'athist Syria there and enjoy my chemical weapons.

[HypErcApitAl]

Hmmm, Rome never divided into East and West in this timeline right?

It remained by and large united - there may have been brief periods of civil strife or interregnum. You may wish to discuss that with our Europa player when we get one, if your history relies on there being one such period.

So rome is this timeline's China?

[Danceria]

It remained by and large united - there may have been brief periods of civil strife or interregnum. You may wish to discuss that with our Europa player when we get one, if your history relies on there being one such period.

So rome is this timeline's China?

That's pretty much the gist of it, China and Rome did a switcheroo where the old Empire fell into successor states that roughly were analogous to Europe while the Romans somehow endured for thousands of years...more or less.

[Arvenia]

So rome is this timeline's China?

That's pretty much the gist of it, China and Rome did a switcheroo where the old Empire fell into successor states that roughly were analogous to Europe while the Romans somehow endured for thousands of years...more or less.

Does that mean Rome is basically communist like real-life China?

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

I wonder what Rome's level of economic development is, since it's basically the China of this world I would also suppose that it's largely the main world sweatshop for Zhongchowese corporations... yes?

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

That's pretty much the gist of it, China and Rome did a switcheroo where the old Empire fell into successor states that roughly were analogous to Europe while the Romans somehow endured for thousands of years...more or less.

Does that mean Rome is basically communist like real-life China?

That...depends.

[Grand Indochina]

Map updated 23/06/2020.

[Danceria]

Does that mean Rome is basically communist like real-life China?

That...depends.

Short answer: no
Longer answer: Hell no
Longest answer: Marxism, no, some strange blend of Platonic, Pythagorean, and Christian thought with a dash of anarchism? Such an ideology exists, and there is a political party. But by and large, no.

[The V O I D]

I just realized that, in this universe, if we're in the information tech age of this AH... anime and manga, both Chinese and Japanese, have taken the place of cartoons and comic books for the world. Not only that, but also some city on the continent and/or some city in Japan is the equivalent to this world's Hollywood, producing the most films/media/entertainment that much of the globe watches.

...what I'm saying is, the Avengers are probably a flesh-and-blood adaptation of an anime based on completely different heroes/villains/premises.

LMAO, is it bad I kind of want to switch timelines?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I just realized that, in this universe, if we're in the information tech age of this AH... anime and manga, both Chinese and Japanese, have taken the place of cartoons and comic books for the world. Not only that, but also some city on the continent and/or some city in Japan is the equivalent to this world's Hollywood, producing the most films/media/entertainment that much of the globe watches.

...what I'm saying is, the Avengers are probably a flesh-and-blood adaptation of an anime based on completely different heroes/villains/premises.

LMAO, is it bad I kind of want to switch timelines?

Not necessarily. Manga as we know it today is partially influenced by Japanese art history, but also by American comics imported during the US occupation. So, the origins of manga also a bit American.

[Danceria]

I just realized that, in this universe, if we're in the information tech age of this AH... anime and manga, both Chinese and Japanese, have taken the place of cartoons and comic books for the world. Not only that, but also some city on the continent and/or some city in Japan is the equivalent to this world's Hollywood, producing the most films/media/entertainment that much of the globe watches.

...what I'm saying is, the Avengers are probably a flesh-and-blood adaptation of an anime based on completely different heroes/villains/premises.

LMAO, is it bad I kind of want to switch timelines?

Not necessarily. Manga as we know it today is partially influenced by Japanese art history, but also by American comics imported during the US occupation. So, the origins of manga also a bit American.

I'm also taking this a step further, going to infer in my first post that Anime (in this timeline's context) is largely a Celto-British creation, with a variety of Roman, Celto-British, Germanic and others taking the place of k/j-pop, anime, and TV dramas.

It is amusing to think that HBO's Rome, or Gladiator is a guilty pastime for the Asian equivalent of a wine mom. Or that this world's "Goku" is inspired by a Greco-Roman heroism rather than Sun Wukong. Doubly amusing if the toga replaces the yukata of the "otaku" culture, or some other Celtic garb.

[Plzen]

I'm also taking this a step further, going to infer in my first post that Anime (in this timeline's context) is largely a Celto-British creation, with a variety of Roman, Celto-British, Germanic and others taking the place of k/j-pop, anime, and TV dramas.

It is amusing to think that HBO's Rome, or Gladiator is a guilty pastime for the Asian equivalent of a wine mom.

Popular culture is an industry that is particularly heavily dominated by wealthy developed nations - I will bet good money that a typical Caucasian American IRL is more likely to know a Swedish pop singer or actor than an Indian one, even though India has a hundred times Sweden's population and five times its GDP.

So Celto-British pop culture is likely to be a big thing, Germanic/Norse pop culture is probably rapidly rising, while the Roman one is still in relative disrepute with few enthusiasts outside of its immediate neighbours.

[Danceria]

I'm also taking this a step further, going to infer in my first post that Anime (in this timeline's context) is largely a Celto-British creation, with a variety of Roman, Celto-British, Germanic and others taking the place of k/j-pop, anime, and TV dramas.

It is amusing to think that HBO's Rome, or Gladiator is a guilty pastime for the Asian equivalent of a wine mom.

Popular culture is an industry that is particularly heavily dominated by wealthy developed nations - I will bet good money that a typical Caucasian American IRL is more likely to know a Swedish pop singer or actor than an Indian one, even though India has a hundred times Sweden's population and five times its GDP.

So Celto-British pop culture is likely to be a big thing, Germanic/Norse pop culture is probably rapidly rising, while the Roman one is still in relative disrepute with few enthusiasts outside of its immediate neighbours.

RIP unironic Romaboo industry.

[HypErcApitAl]

I'm also taking this a step further, going to infer in my first post that Anime (in this timeline's context) is largely a Celto-British creation, with a variety of Roman, Celto-British, Germanic and others taking the place of k/j-pop, anime, and TV dramas.

It is amusing to think that HBO's Rome, or Gladiator is a guilty pastime for the Asian equivalent of a wine mom.

Popular culture is an industry that is particularly heavily dominated by wealthy developed nations - I will bet good money that a typical Caucasian American IRL is more likely to know a Swedish pop singer or actor than an Indian one, even though India has a hundred times Sweden's population and five times its GDP.

So Celto-British pop culture is likely to be a big thing, Germanic/Norse pop culture is probably rapidly rising, while the Roman one is still in relative disrepute with few enthusiasts outside of its immediate neighbours.

UK (or atleast England, Ireland is the Korean parallel) is the Japanese parallel/analogue, so I guess it makes sense. Vietnamese, Japanese and Chinese culture (analogues for France, UK and Germany) would be huge and widely-followed w/ Vietnamese Fashion and Style or Military being the go-to (like France's military and fashion, though for some reason, people keep bullying the French for surrendering during WWII.)

Rome (since they're the Chinese parallel) would be known for their food.

[Danceria]

Rome (since they're the Chinese parallel) would be known for their food.

[Happy Pasta Noises]

[Intermountain States]

Say, what kind of East Asian culture would be dominate in the Americas? Judging by the OP of Jinshan being a New World superpower and with the Americas discovered by Korean explorers, am I safe in assuming a sort of a Cantonese-Korean cultural split in the Americas the same way there's an Anglo-Latino cultural split in real life among the settler nations?

Popular culture is an industry that is particularly heavily dominated by wealthy developed nations - I will bet good money that a typical Caucasian American IRL is more likely to know a Swedish pop singer or actor than an Indian one, even though India has a hundred times Sweden's population and five times its GDP.

So Celto-British pop culture is likely to be a big thing, Germanic/Norse pop culture is probably rapidly rising, while the Roman one is still in relative disrepute with few enthusiasts outside of its immediate neighbours.

RIP unironic Romaboo industry.

Even in an alternate universe, there are still people worshiping British idols.