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Poll ended at Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:51 am

Cold Interbellum
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The Changed World
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Anno 1900
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Divided States of America
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Total votes : 10

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Strala
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Postby Strala » Thu May 14, 2020 5:00 pm

Bah at least all three of have one thing in common and that is we hate each other.

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Postby Chewion » Thu May 14, 2020 5:53 pm

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RP Name: Official: German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich)
Unoffical: Germany

Capital: Berlin

Territory: Germany (minus Schleswig) , Austria, South Tyrol, Alsace-Lorain, Eupen-Malmedy, German-speaking Switzerland, Lichtenstein, most former Prussian lands in modern Poland and Russia (Kaliningrad Oblast, Lubuzs Voivodeship, Pomeranian Voivodeship, West Pomeranian Voivodeship, Lower Silesian Voivodeship, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, Silesian Voivodeship, and Opole Voivodeship.)

Population:
118,000,000

Type of Government:
Federal parliamentary
semi-constitutional monarchy

Government Explaination:
Similar to how the German Empire operated under the German Empire Constitution with the addition of powers of the Emperor to dissolve both the Bundesrat and Reichstag unilaterally. (Akin to how the British Monarch can technically dissolve the Parliament.) Also, the Kaiser has veto powers on legislation. With a strong-willed Kaiser, the Empire becomes a de-facto absolute monarchy due to these added powers.

Leader(s):
Kaiser Wilhelm V (Wilhelm Friedrich Ludwig Franz Joseph Hohenzollern)

Reichskanzler Stefan Müller
Image(s) of Leader(s):
Image


Image

Party or Coalition in Power:
Deutsche Kaiserpartei (DK) has a super majority in the parliament.

Executive Title: Kaiser (Emperor)

State Ideology: Monarchism with heavy conservative influences and a strong emphasis on Prussian Militarism as well as Pan-Germanism. Anti-Kruschism.

Ethnicity Breakdown:
German: 77.5%
Polish: 12.5%
French: 3.5%
Italian: 2.6%
Czech: 2.4%
Other: 1.5%

Religion Breakdown:
Christian: 84%
Non-Religious: 12%
Judaism: 3%
Other: 1%

Flag:
Image


National Anthem:




National Motto:
Gott mit uns

Demonym:
German/s

Map Color:
Prussian Blue 8)

Public Goals:
Continue economic growth, unite all German speaking peoples under the Kaiser, irradicate Kruschism.

Private Goals:
Become the world hegemon and promote German culture globally.


Military name:
Kaiserliche Streitkräfte

Military branches:
Kaiserliche Landstreitkräfte (Army)
Kaiserliche Marine (Navy)
Kaiserliche Luftwaffe (Air Force)
Kaiserliche Marinekorps (Marine Corps)
Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte (Space Force)
Kaiserliche Küstenwache (Coast Guard)
Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte (Cyberwarfare)
Kaiserliche Territorialgarde (National Guard)

Total military size:
Active Duty: 1.2 Million
Reserves: 2.3 Million

Breakdown of ground force(s):
Tanks: 1,222
APC/AFV: 32,000
SPA: 2,122
Towed-Artillery: 1,200
MLRS: 800

Breakdown of naval force(s):
Aircraft Carriers: 3
Helicopter Carriers: 5
Destroyers: 38
Submarines: 62
Cruisers: 32
Frigates: 12

Breakdown of air force(s):
Fighters: 1,224
Attack: 829
Transport: 910
Attack helicopters: 922
Helicopters: 5,339

Breakdown of other branch(es):

Kaiserliche Marinekorps
The Imperial Marine Corps is technically it’s own separate branch but is under the leadership of the Department of the Navy. It has 120,000 active duty members as well as 25,000 reservists.

Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte
The Imperial Space Force is tasked with all military operations dealing with space as well as protection of the Empire’s satellites. Due to the nature of their work they work closly with the Cyberwarfare and Air Force branches.

Kaiserliche Küstenwache
The Imperial Coast Guard is tasked with defending the coast’s of the Empire as well as rescuing anyone in danger within the territorial waters of Germany. A smaller role they play is intercepting illegal imports and trafficking. They have 10 cutters, 12 patrol boats, and 1 small diesel-electric submarine to monitor underwater activity.

Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte
The Imperial Cyberwarfare Force is tasked with defending the nations online and interconnected infrastructure as well as conducting cyberattacks when warranted. In recent years the force has seen increased funding and a higher importance being placed on it making it a premier branch of the Armed Forces.

Kaiserliche Territorialgarde
The Territorial Guard is akin to the US National Guard and Polish Territorial Defense Force in that it is tasked with responding to natural disasters and emergency situations as well as fighting in unconventional warfare styles if Germany is ever invaded. It has an active duty of 32,000.

Extra military information:

GDP:
8.2 Trillion USD. 10.4 Trillion PPP USD.

GDP per Capita:
$67,213 USD

Currency:
Deutsche Mark

Currency and value of currency compared to USD:
1 DEM = 0.55 USD

Major Domestic Issues:
Kruschism remnants, integration of minorities.

Major Foreign Issues:
France, possible Russian aggression, old sentiments brewing anti-German sentiment abroad.

History:
2042: Seeking a means to stabilize the German nation and prevent another Krusch from ever rising again, the right-wing German Government official passes the Wiederherstellung des Reiches Act in late January. This act sees the three-month-long transfer of the Bundesrepublik into the reborn Deutsches Kaiserreich under Wilhelm IV, the 50-year-old descendent of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the last German Kaiser. Under the new Kaiser, the German nation stabilizes and the start of a second German Economic Miracle is kindled.

2043: As the German nation recovers, Kaiser Wilhelm IV places an importance on the nation’s military and starts a militaristic build up.

2044: With Germany on a clear rebound, the Kaiser approaches the reformed Austrian government which still finds itself in financial and societal shambles. Drawn by the promise of a strong and unifying leader as well as economic prosperity once more, the Austrian people vote overwhelmingly for unification and annexation into the German Empire. Lichtenstein follows Austria into the Empire. Later that same year Germany annexes Alsace-Loraine.

2045: Seeking protection and lured by the promise of the Kaiser to ensure the preservation of the Polish culture and history, the former Prussian lands in Poland join the German Empire by a popular vote bolstered by the sizeable German population living in the lands. In return Poland is granted free access to Prussian ports as a way to attempt at undoing past wrongs and ensuring peace. In addition the Kaiserreich starts PolAid to assist in the rebuilding of Polish society furthering goodwill between the two peoples.

2046: With the regained power of the German Empire now secure, the Kaiser approached the German speaking Swiss cantons who agree to join the Empire. Later in the year the Empire unilaterally annexed Eupen-Malmedy with strong support from the German speaking population.

2050: The son of Chancellor Krusch, Hans Krusch, makes an attempt of Kaiser Wilhelm IV while the Kaiser is traveling by train to Bonn from Berlin. The attempt fails and Hans is made the most wanted man in Europe. As a result of this the Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst is formed and given broad anti-Terrorism powers by the Reichstag.

2052: Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst agents report the successful elimination of Hans Krusch in Salzburg.

2054: Sightings of Hans are rumored but never confirmed. Wary of future French hostilities, Germany heavily fortifies Alsace-Loraine.

2055: On December 27th Kaiser Wilhelm IV dies unexpectedly while on holiday with his family in Bavaria at the age of 63 under mysterious circumstances although officially the reason is given as sudden heart failure.

2056: As the new year starts the mourning period for the late Kaiser nears its end with his funeral to be followed by the coronation of his 20 year old son, Wilhelm who shall become Wilhelm V.


RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=435351
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Postby Plzen » Thu May 14, 2020 6:55 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:So probably what's going to happen is I will find a way to have a cargo plane or bomber drop an unmarked drone or launch a missile to take out the production plant in the North, or take out its delivery system.

[Press Here to Start WWIII]

A major world power unilaterally attacking another major power’s military facilities? Yeah... that is unlikely to go well. We will, of course, retaliate.



Chewion wrote:Population:
118,000,000
German (Includes peoples such as Austrian and Swiss): 92%
Polish: 3%
French: 3%
Other: 2%

You integrated quite a bit of Poland and your population is 92% German? Also, what happened to your sizeable cultural minorities?

Chewion wrote:Total military size:
[...]

That’s an enormous military. Incredibly so, considering it has only been building up for 13 years.

The Commonwealth may need to approach France with a defensive pact... this is a clear and resurgent threat.
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Postby Strala » Thu May 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Plzen wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:So probably what's going to happen is I will find a way to have a cargo plane or bomber drop an unmarked drone or launch a missile to take out the production plant in the North, or take out its delivery system.

[Press Here to Start WWIII]

A major world power unilaterally attacking another major power’s military facilities? Yeah... that is unlikely to go well. We will, of course, retaliate.



Chewion wrote:Population:
118,000,000
German (Includes peoples such as Austrian and Swiss): 92%
Polish: 3%
French: 3%
Other: 2%

You integrated quite a bit of Poland and your population is 92% German? Also, what happened to your sizeable cultural minorities?

Chewion wrote:Total military size:
[...]

That’s an enormous military. Incredibly so, considering it has only been building up for 13 years.

The Commonwealth may need to approach France with a defensive pact... this is a clear and resurgent threat.

Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

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Postby Plzen » Thu May 14, 2020 7:15 pm

Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.

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Postby Nazeroth » Thu May 14, 2020 7:17 pm

Plzen wrote:
Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.


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Postby Chewion » Thu May 14, 2020 7:18 pm

Plzen wrote:
Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.

I just want to be friends lol
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Thu May 14, 2020 7:20 pm

Plzen wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:So probably what's going to happen is I will find a way to have a cargo plane or bomber drop an unmarked drone or launch a missile to take out the production plant in the North, or take out its delivery system.

[Press Here to Start WWIII]

A major world power unilaterally attacking another major power’s military facilities? Yeah... that is unlikely to go well. We will, of course, retaliate.


Chewion wrote:Total military size:
[...]

That’s an enormous military. Incredibly so, considering it has only been building up for 13 years.

The Commonwealth may need to approach France with a defensive pact... this is a clear and resurgent threat.


To be fair, Japan is thousands of miles away and wouldn't use marked Japanese equipment so it would be fairly hard to tell who delivered the strike. I use a lot of equipment based off of American designs, so it would be hard for you to attribute blame without Japan claiming credit.

Take Syria for example. Israel attacks Iranian backed and Iranian positions there all the time. They just don't claim credit for the strike, thus meaning Iran has less pressure to respond and it cannot usually confirm who was responsible.


On another note, it seems Germany has a very very large military, (about 3% of his population) which isn't very common in modern day to say the least. That would be something nearing WW2 levels of troops and seemingly not warranted unless he has very hostile neighbors. A little shocking he has both very large numbers of armor and a very large navy, in this case seemingly exceeding even the Third Reich.

If he has big carriers like the US, and it is true he had only 13 years of build up, such a number would be unlikely. Takes about 11 years to complete and $17 billion per carrier so it would be pretty hard to have 5 advanced modern super carriers in only 13 years. Since Germany doesn't really have any carriers he would seemingly have to modify or purchase around 375 planes too which adds up quick. Naval budget would be hurting for sure.

His military budget has to be around 700-800 billion for this large of a military to exist, unless they are of lower quality or not up kept well.
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Postby Chewion » Thu May 14, 2020 7:26 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Plzen wrote:[Press Here to Start WWIII]

A major world power unilaterally attacking another major power’s military facilities? Yeah... that is unlikely to go well. We will, of course, retaliate.



That’s an enormous military. Incredibly so, considering it has only been building up for 13 years.

The Commonwealth may need to approach France with a defensive pact... this is a clear and resurgent threat.


To be fair, Japan is thousands of miles away and wouldn't use marked Japanese equipment so it would be fairly hard to tell who delivered the strike. I use a lot of equipment based off of American designs, so it would be hard for you to attribute blame without Japan claiming credit.

Take Syria for example. Israel attacks Iranian backed and Iranian positions there all the time. They just don't claim credit for the strike, thus meaning Iran has less pressure to respond and it cannot usually confirm who was responsible.


On another note, it seems Germany has a very very large military, (about 3% of his population) which isn't very common in modern day to say the least. That would be something nearing WW2 levels of troops and seemingly not warranted unless he has very hostile neighbors. A little shocking he has both very large numbers of armor and a very large navy, in this case seemingly exceeding even the Third Reich.

If he has big carriers like the US, and it is true he had only 13 years of build up, such a number would be unlikely. Takes about 11 years to complete and $17 billion per carrier so it would be pretty hard to have 5 advanced modern super carriers in only 13 years. Since Germany doesn't really have any carriers he would seemingly have to modify or purchase around 375 planes too which adds up quick. Naval budget would be hurting for sure.

His military budget has to be around 700-800 billion for this large of a military to exist, unless they are of lower quality or not up kept well.

Prussia historically has up to 4% of its population in military service. With a very real threat from Russia and possibly France combined with the uncertainty of the Nordics it’s necessary for the security of the state.

Most of the carriers are not super carriers only 2 are and I was assuming that by this point with Germany having gone full military force on everything in years past they would have had to have a larger military than irl. However if you feel that’s still unrealistic I could reduce the numbers to a more realistic suggestion. :)
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Postby Plzen » Thu May 14, 2020 7:28 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:-snip-

The number of world powers with the technological and military capabilities to hit anything through Norden's sophisticated air defences can be counted on one hand, and we know it isn't Germany or Russia because our intelligence keeps a very keen eye on both threatening powers. That leaves... not a whole lot of potential candidates.



Chewion wrote:Prussia historically has up to 4% of its population in military service. With a very real threat from Russia and possibly France combined with the uncertainty of the Nordics it’s necessary for the security of the state.

Most of the carriers are not super carriers only 2 are and I was assuming that by this point with Germany having gone full military force on everything in years past they would have had to have a larger military than irl. However if you feel that’s still unrealistic I could reduce the numbers to a more realistic suggestion. :)

I did a cost-based assessment on my military; perhaps you can do something similar. I don't think your military size is unrealistic, but it would certainly be a large drain on your economy recovering from civil war.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 14, 2020 7:28 pm

Plzen wrote:
Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.


Germany to your South makes things much easier for us :evil:

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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 14, 2020 7:30 pm

Plzen wrote:
Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.


You'll be worryin' soon, boy. (read in stereotypical Southern accent)
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Postby Chewion » Thu May 14, 2020 7:31 pm

Plzen wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:-snip-

The number of world powers with the technological and military capabilities to hit anything through Norden's sophisticated air defences can be counted on one hand, and we know it isn't Germany or Russia because our intelligence keeps a very keen eye on both threatening powers. That leaves... not a whole lot of potential candidates.



Chewion wrote:Prussia historically has up to 4% of its population in military service. With a very real threat from Russia and possibly France combined with the uncertainty of the Nordics it’s necessary for the security of the state.

Most of the carriers are not super carriers only 2 are and I was assuming that by this point with Germany having gone full military force on everything in years past they would have had to have a larger military than irl. However if you feel that’s still unrealistic I could reduce the numbers to a more realistic suggestion. :)

I did a cost-based assessment on my military; perhaps you can do something similar. I don't think your military size is unrealistic, but it would certainly be a large drain on your economy recovering from civil war.

Part of my thinking is that the military is also an important part of the economy itself through providing good employment etc. What tools did you use to do the analysis?
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Postby Strala » Thu May 14, 2020 7:32 pm

Plzen wrote:
Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.

Impoverished?! China's not impoverished! >:( But seriously how do you mobilize and modernize that quickly. China can mobilize that number due to its ridiculously large population yet they suffer from having to us mainly outdated technology for most aspects of warfare. The CPC thinks that they will finally be completed in 2035.
I seriously came into this rp hoping for nations either with similar levels of technology and equipment or smaller nations with higher levels of technology and the vice versa.[/quote]
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:snip

Let's not forget the number of tanks and AFV along with the Helicopter carriers. The amount of tanks is basically triple its current amount and most of that is Leopard 1s in storage with only around 245 Leopard 2s. AFVS numbers are increased 10 times. Same with fighter numbers and over 10 times for both Helicopter numbers and Attack Helicopters. They also have over a 10 times increase in SPA and somehow gained 1200 Towed-Artillery. Also, the MLRS is almost a 40 times increase. They also somehow built 48 destroyers since 2020 along with another 62 submarines and 32 cruisers. How does Germany have the money to do this in 13 years after a long war? If they were really old technology then it might make some sense, but I personally feel like the numbers are too large. Most other RPers either had a small increase, kept the numbers the same as the 2020 statistics while others have shrunk the amount of equipment their nation has.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 14, 2020 7:34 pm

Eurasian Century? More like Quebecois Domination (of the Arctic Sea/Ocean)/SDC-domination.

That's okay, cause Quebec, Russia-wise, wants to ally them.
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Postby Plzen » Thu May 14, 2020 7:38 pm

Chewion wrote:Part of my thinking is that the military is also an important part of the economy itself through providing good employment etc. What tools did you use to do the analysis?

Honestly, just the internet. I just browsed through what military equipment costs nowadays, what it used to cost in the past, and simply projected that growth trend 30~40 years into the future to find out what military equipment might cost in the 2050s. That gives me how much I might be spending on acquisitions. Then I looked at what proportion of a country's military budget goes into R&D and acquisitions, and used that ratio to find out my total military budget.

Strala wrote:Impoverished?! China's not impoverished! >:( But seriously how do you mobilize that quickly. China did it but even then most of their current tank pool is outdated as long with most of their equipment. If they have technology similar to yours I have will throw a tantrum and start ranting about how unfair this is
I seriously came into this rp hoping for nations either with similar levels of technology and equipment or smaller nations with higher levels of technology and the vice versa.

We are a smaller nation with higher technology. That's kind of our whole thing. You can't possibly accuse us of being the same size you are when we have less than 1/10 your population. :p

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Postby Chewion » Thu May 14, 2020 7:40 pm

When fighting this massive European war did Germany not at all expand its military or at the very least it’s production capabilities? Also I pegged my numbers mostly around what major threats had. IE my tank numbers are decently lower than Russia but enough to be where military planners would want them to feel comfortable imo. What are some suggested numbers from y’all?
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Thu May 14, 2020 7:41 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Plzen wrote:We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.


You'll be worryin' soon, boy. (read in stereotypical Southern accent)

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Postby SangMar » Thu May 14, 2020 7:41 pm

Plzen wrote:
Strala wrote:Comrade don't worry, China's got your back if you don't spray that aerosol. If you do, I think you should worry about the rest of the world before Germany first.

We don’t really care what a bunch of impoverished foreigners in North America or Asia think, whereas Germany is an immediate threat.


B-but the NSR/NRS’ citizens are wealthy! Please don’t count us on that list.
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Postby Plzen » Thu May 14, 2020 7:42 pm

Chewion wrote:When fighting this massive European war did Germany not at all expand its military or at the very least it’s production capabilities? Also I pegged my numbers mostly around what major threats had. IE my tank numbers are decently lower than Russia but enough to be where military planners would want them to feel comfortable imo. What are some suggested numbers from y’all?

I think your current numbers are fine, especially if a big portion of your military equipment is outdated 2020s or 2030s relics.

SangMar wrote:B-but the NSR/NRS’ citizens are wealthy! Please don’t count us on that list.

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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 14, 2020 7:42 pm

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Chewion wrote:Part of my thinking is that the military is also an important part of the economy itself through providing good employment etc. What tools did you use to do the analysis?

Honestly, just the internet. I just browsed through what military equipment costs nowadays, what it used to cost in the past, and simply projected that growth trend 30~40 years into the future to find out what military equipment might cost in the 2050s. That gives me how much I might be spending on acquisitions. Then I looked at what proportion of a country's military budget goes into R&D and acquisitions, and used that ratio to find out my total military budget.

Strala wrote:Impoverished?! China's not impoverished! >:( But seriously how do you mobilize that quickly. China did it but even then most of their current tank pool is outdated as long with most of their equipment. If they have technology similar to yours I have will throw a tantrum and start ranting about how unfair this is
I seriously came into this rp hoping for nations either with similar levels of technology and equipment or smaller nations with higher levels of technology and the vice versa.

We are a smaller nation with higher technology. That's kind of our whole thing. You can't possibly accuse us of being the same size you are when we have less than 1/10 your population. :p


"A smaller nation," bitch, please. Scandinavia is huge. Also, you have Greenland, Iceland and some other islands (I think), so geographically, you're huge. Population-wise? Maybe you're small, there. (and y'all were tryna tell me about my decreasing birthrate, muhahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahaha :evil: :evil: :evil: )
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 14, 2020 7:43 pm

Also, we got all that Technocratic rhetoric, so our (Quebec's) whole thing is technology and space (pretty much)
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Postby SangMar » Thu May 14, 2020 7:43 pm

Plzen wrote:
Chewion wrote:Part of my thinking is that the military is also an important part of the economy itself through providing good employment etc. What tools did you use to do the analysis?

Honestly, just the internet. I just browsed through what military equipment costs nowadays, what it used to cost in the past, and simply projected that growth trend 30~40 years into the future to find out what military equipment might cost in the 2050s. That gives me how much I might be spending on acquisitions. Then I looked at what proportion of a country's military budget goes into R&D and acquisitions, and used that ratio to find out my total military budget.

Strala wrote:Impoverished?! China's not impoverished! >:( But seriously how do you mobilize that quickly. China did it but even then most of their current tank pool is outdated as long with most of their equipment. If they have technology similar to yours I have will throw a tantrum and start ranting about how unfair this is
I seriously came into this rp hoping for nations either with similar levels of technology and equipment or smaller nations with higher levels of technology and the vice versa.

We are a smaller nation with higher technology. That's kind of our whole thing. You can't possibly accuse us of being the same size you are when we have less than 1/10 your population. :p


On a scale of good technology to good technology, how good do you think the NSR/NRS’ military should be? If we were to look at this with total seriousness.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 14, 2020 7:44 pm

SangMar wrote:
Plzen wrote:Honestly, just the internet. I just browsed through what military equipment costs nowadays, what it used to cost in the past, and simply projected that growth trend 30~40 years into the future to find out what military equipment might cost in the 2050s. That gives me how much I might be spending on acquisitions. Then I looked at what proportion of a country's military budget goes into R&D and acquisitions, and used that ratio to find out my total military budget.


We are a smaller nation with higher technology. That's kind of our whole thing. You can't possibly accuse us of being the same size you are when we have less than 1/10 your population. :p


On a scale of good technology to good technology, how good do you think the NSR/NRS’ military should be? If we were to look at this with total seriousness.


Agreed. 'Cause part of it isn't just men with AK-47s, it's also hackers and missiles.
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Postby Plzen » Thu May 14, 2020 7:45 pm

SangMar wrote:On a scale of good technology to good technology, how good do you think the NSR/NRS’ military should be? If we were to look at this with total seriousness.

Honestly, if you just put all the countries on a sorted list of real GDP per capita, you probably have a fairly decent approximation for how good their engineering is.

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