The Great Restoration (Semi-PMT/Nation/OOC/Dead)

[HypErcApitAl]

Okay. Remember everyone, unless you’ve got the equipment and military expenditure of the United States, do not give your combat personal a relatively short amount of time to be trained.

Now you tell me. I've just been handing people rifles, pointing them at live bears and the ones that don't lose their arms to the bear are enlisted.
I think we might even just shorten the definition and just hand out surplus rifles and machine guns to every citizen. Sure they'd be an incompetent mass militia, but they'll be my incompetent mass militia dammit!

Your tech is shite.

[Newne Carriebean7]

Now you tell me. I've just been handing people rifles, pointing them at live bears and the ones that don't lose their arms to the bear are enlisted.
I think we might even just shorten the definition and just hand out surplus rifles and machine guns to every citizen. Sure they'd be an incompetent mass militia, but they'll be my incompetent mass militia dammit!

Your tech is shite.

Thank You.
Glorious Derrigibles, 2003-2008 models of PT-Cruisers, Panzerfausts that blow up half the time, sailing ships armed with cannon, squadrons of "ready to die for the emperor's amusement" levies,
We'd somehow still lose to a bunch of redneck KKK members armed with technical and night vision goggles stolen from Walmart.
You know, maybe I need night vison to fight in the dark.
Nah, When my soldiers trip over rocks and shoot the guy marching next to them owing to the saftey being off, that'll be progress from the two guys that would be shot from the one soldier tripping. We're losing less men this way.

[Strala]

Even then, how does a nation manufacture nearly 900 planes, a whole ton of carriers and naval ships, along with over 7000 tanks in a 10 span?

If most of the stuff is old relics, then it wouldn't have all been manufactured in a 13-year span. It would reflect the leftovers from the military buildup before and during the Central European War.

That they mean they somehow needed to build even more than what they had on the app, which I already find absurd. Even if their industrial base expanded a lot I still don' believe that they could make that many equipment in that short amount of time.

Even then, how does a nation manufacture nearly 900 planes, a whole ton of carriers and naval ships, along with over 7000 tanks in a 10 span?

They don’t.... as I said I’m basing it off the assumption that in the late 20’s and 30’s Germany had a buildup to fight the war they did.

The Central European War already started in the 2020s and lasts for at least a decade, and a civil war happened in 2035 and lasts till 2040.

Okay. Remember everyone, unless you’ve got the equipment and military expenditure of the United States, do not give your combat personal a relatively short amount of time to be trained. Also, more training =/= equal better, eventually you stop getting more benefit out of it, the cost to benefit ratio plateaus.

Northern doctrine is very much funnelling a large budget into a relatively small military, which means we have the money to spare for things like large-scale military exercises and simulators.

4% of our GDP in military that contains all of 135,000 active duty soldiers.

I would say that Northern China's military is still relatively advanced as the nation is pouring over 10% of its annual GDP in the armed forces.

[SangMar]

What is the average modern military like?

I know its PMT so were talking the best of what we have today would be the norm in the current rp?

That would depend on the nation. African ones, for example, would not have the best tech of today as the norm. But depending on the country, it’d be in widespread use.

[Nazeroth]

I kept frances military mosty the same in terms of size because im assuming it had war build up but with the unrest, losses, immigration halting etc etc it back down from all kinds of reasons and focusing more on local technologies.

I will also say My secret police/intel forces are amazing due to the chaos and insurgencies.

[Chewion]

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NS Name: Chewion
RP Name: Official: German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich)
Unoffical: Germany

Capital: Berlin

Territory: Germany (minus Schleswig) , Austria, South Tyrol, Alsace-Lorain, Eupen-Malmedy, German-speaking Switzerland, Lichtenstein, most former Prussian lands in modern Poland and Russia (Kaliningrad Oblast, Lubuzs Voivodeship, Pomeranian Voivodeship, West Pomeranian Voivodeship, Lower Silesian Voivodeship, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, Silesian Voivodeship, and Opole Voivodeship.)

Population:
118,000,000

Type of Government:
Federal parliamentary
semi-constitutional monarchy

Government Explaination:
Similar to how the German Empire operated under the German Empire Constitution with the addition of powers of the Emperor to dissolve both the Bundesrat and Reichstag unilaterally. (Akin to how the British Monarch can technically dissolve the Parliament.) Also, the Kaiser has veto powers on legislation. With a strong-willed Kaiser, the Empire becomes a de-facto absolute monarchy due to these added powers.

Leader(s):
Kaiser Wilhelm V (Wilhelm Friedrich Ludwig Franz Joseph Hohenzollern)

Reichskanzler Stefan Müller
Image(s) of Leader(s):

(Image)

(Image)

Party or Coalition in Power:
Deutsche Kaiserpartei (DK) has a super majority in the parliament.

Executive Title: Kaiser (Emperor)

State Ideology: Monarchism with heavy conservative influences and a strong emphasis on Prussian Militarism as well as Pan-Germanism. Anti-Kruschism.

Ethnicity Breakdown:
German (Includes peoples such as Austrian and Swiss): 92%
Polish: 3%
French: 3%
Other: 2%

Religion Breakdown:
Christian: 84%
Non-Religious: 12%
Judaism: 3%
Other: 1%

Flag:

(Image)

National Anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajyBEcSbxdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPGx8AJovdA

National Motto:
Gott mit uns

Demonym:
German/s

Map Color:
Prussian Blue

Public Goals:
Continue economic growth, unite all German speaking peoples under the Kaiser, irradicate Kruschism.

Private Goals:
Become the world hegemon and promote German culture globally.


Military name:
Kaiserliche Streitkräfte

Military branches:
Kaiserliche Landstreitkräfte (Army)
Kaiserliche Marine (Navy)
Kaiserliche Luftwaffe (Air Force)
Kaiserliche Marine Korps (Marine Corps)
Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte (Space Force)
Kaiserliche Küstenwache (Coast Guard)
Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte (Cyberwarfare)
Kaiserliche Territorialgarde (National Guard)

Total military size:
Active Duty: 1.2 Million
Reserves: 2.3 Million

Breakdown of ground force(s):
Tanks: 1,222
APC/AFV: 32,000
SPA: 2,122
Towed-Artillery: 1,200
MLRS: 800

Breakdown of naval force(s):
Aircraft Carriers: 3
Helicopter Carriers: 5
Destroyers: 38
Submarines: 62
Cruisers: 32
Frigates: 12

Breakdown of air force(s):
Fighters: 1,224
Attack: 829
Transport: 910
Attack helicopters: 922
Helicopters: 5,339

Breakdown of other branch(es):

Kaiserliche Marine Korps
The Imperial Marine Corps is technically it’s own separate branch but is under the leadership of the Department of the Navy. It has 120,000 active duty members as well as 25,000 reservists.

Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte
The Imperial Space Force is tasked with all military operations dealing with space as well as protection of the Empire’s satellites. Due to the nature of their work they work closly with the Cyberwarfare and Air Force branches.

Kaiserliche Küstenwache
The Imperial Coast Guard is tasked with defending the coast’s of the Empire as well as rescuing anyone in danger within the territorial waters of Germany. A smaller role they play is intercepting illegal imports and trafficking. They have 10 cutters, 12 patrol boats, and 1 small diesel-electric submarine to monitor underwater activity.

Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte
The Imperial Cyberwarfare Force is tasked with defending the nations online and interconnected infrastructure as well as conducting cyberattacks when warranted. In recent years the force has seen increased funding and a higher importance being placed on it making it a premier branch of the Armed Forces.

Kaiserliche Territorialgarde
The Territorial Guard is akin to the US National Guard and Polish Territorial Defense Force in that it is tasked with responding to natural disasters and emergency situations as well as fighting in unconventional warfare styles if Germany is ever invaded. It has an active duty of 32,000.

Extra military information:

GDP:
8.2 Trillion USD. 10.4 Trillion PPP USD.

GDP per Capita:
$67,213 USD

Currency:
Deutsche Mark

Currency and value of currency compared to USD:
1 DEM = 0.55 USD

Major Domestic Issues:
Kruschism remnants, integration of minorities.

Major Foreign Issues:
France, possible Russian aggression, old sentiments brewing anti-German sentiment abroad.

History:

2042: Seeking a means to stabilize the German nation and prevent another Krusch from ever rising again, the right-wing German Government official passes the Wiederherstellung des Reiches Act in late January. This act sees the three-month-long transfer of the Bundesrepublik into the reborn Deutsches Kaiserreich under Wilhelm IV, the 50-year-old descendent of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the last German Kaiser. Under the new Kaiser, the German nation stabilizes and the start of a second German Economic Miracle is kindled.

2043: As the German nation recovers, Kaiser Wilhelm IV places an importance on the nation’s military and starts a militaristic build up.

2044: With Germany on a clear rebound, the Kaiser approaches the reformed Austrian government which still finds itself in financial and societal shambles. Drawn by the promise of a strong and unifying leader as well as economic prosperity once more, the Austrian people vote overwhelmingly for unification and annexation into the German Empire. Lichtenstein follows Austria into the Empire. Later that same year Germany annexes Alsace-Loraine.

2045: Seeking protection and lured by the promise of the Kaiser to ensure the preservation of the Polish culture and history, the former Prussian lands in Poland join the German Empire by a popular vote bolstered by the sizeable German population living in the lands. In return Poland is granted free access to Prussian ports as a way to attempt at undoing past wrongs and ensuring peace. In addition the Kaiserreich starts PolAid to assist in the rebuilding of Polish society furthering goodwill between the two peoples.

2046: With the regained power of the German Empire now secure, the Kaiser approached the German speaking Swiss cantons who agree to join the Empire. Later in the year the Empire unilaterally annexed Eupen-Malmedy with strong support from the German speaking population.

2050: The son of Chancellor Krusch, Hans Krusch, makes an attempt of Kaiser Wilhelm IV while the Kaiser is traveling by train to Bonn from Berlin. The attempt fails and Hans is made the most wanted man in Europe. As a result of this the Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst is formed and given broad anti-Terrorism powers by the Reichstag.

2052: Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst agents report the successful elimination of Hans Krusch in Salzburg.

2054: Sightings of Hans are rumored but never confirmed. Wary of future French hostilities, Germany heavily fortifies Alsace-Loraine.

2055: On December 27th Kaiser Wilhelm IV dies unexpectedly while on holiday with his family in Bavaria at the age of 63 under mysterious circumstances although officially the reason is given as sudden heart failure.

2056: As the new year starts the mourning period for the late Kaiser nears its end with his funeral to be followed by the coronation of his 20 year old son, Wilhelm who shall become Wilhelm V.

RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=435351

Lowered several of my military numbers in land and naval forces to better reflect some feedback. Let me know what y'all think if it's good enough or if I made to severe of cuts anywhere.

[Strala]

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NS Name: Chewion
RP Name: Official: German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich)
Unoffical: Germany

Capital: Berlin

Territory: Germany (minus Schleswig) , Austria, South Tyrol, Alsace-Lorain, Eupen-Malmedy, German-speaking Switzerland, Lichtenstein, most former Prussian lands in modern Poland and Russia (Kaliningrad Oblast, Lubuzs Voivodeship, Pomeranian Voivodeship, West Pomeranian Voivodeship, Lower Silesian Voivodeship, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, Silesian Voivodeship, and Opole Voivodeship.)

Population:
118,000,000

Type of Government:
Federal parliamentary
semi-constitutional monarchy

Government Explaination:
Similar to how the German Empire operated under the German Empire Constitution with the addition of powers of the Emperor to dissolve both the Bundesrat and Reichstag unilaterally. (Akin to how the British Monarch can technically dissolve the Parliament.) Also, the Kaiser has veto powers on legislation. With a strong-willed Kaiser, the Empire becomes a de-facto absolute monarchy due to these added powers.

Leader(s):
Kaiser Wilhelm V (Wilhelm Friedrich Ludwig Franz Joseph Hohenzollern)

Reichskanzler Stefan Müller
Image(s) of Leader(s):

(Image)

(Image)

Party or Coalition in Power:
Deutsche Kaiserpartei (DK) has a super majority in the parliament.

Executive Title: Kaiser (Emperor)

State Ideology: Monarchism with heavy conservative influences and a strong emphasis on Prussian Militarism as well as Pan-Germanism. Anti-Kruschism.

Ethnicity Breakdown:
German (Includes peoples such as Austrian and Swiss): 92%
Polish: 3%
French: 3%
Other: 2%

Religion Breakdown:
Christian: 84%
Non-Religious: 12%
Judaism: 3%
Other: 1%

Flag:

(Image)

National Anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajyBEcSbxdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPGx8AJovdA

National Motto:
Gott mit uns

Demonym:
German/s

Map Color:
Prussian Blue

Public Goals:
Continue economic growth, unite all German speaking peoples under the Kaiser, irradicate Kruschism.

Private Goals:
Become the world hegemon and promote German culture globally.


Military name:
Kaiserliche Streitkräfte

Military branches:
Kaiserliche Landstreitkräfte (Army)
Kaiserliche Marine (Navy)
Kaiserliche Luftwaffe (Air Force)
Kaiserliche Marine Korps (Marine Corps)
Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte (Space Force)
Kaiserliche Küstenwache (Coast Guard)
Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte (Cyberwarfare)
Kaiserliche Territorialgarde (National Guard)

Total military size:
Active Duty: 1.2 Million
Reserves: 2.3 Million

Breakdown of ground force(s):
Tanks: 1,222
APC/AFV: 32,000
SPA: 2,122
Towed-Artillery: 1,200
MLRS: 800

Breakdown of naval force(s):
Aircraft Carriers: 3
Helicopter Carriers: 5
Destroyers: 38
Submarines: 62
Cruisers: 32
Frigates: 12

Breakdown of air force(s):
Fighters: 1,224
Attack: 829
Transport: 910
Attack helicopters: 922
Helicopters: 5,339

Breakdown of other branch(es):

Kaiserliche Marine Korps
The Imperial Marine Corps is technically it’s own separate branch but is under the leadership of the Department of the Navy. It has 120,000 active duty members as well as 25,000 reservists.

Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte
The Imperial Space Force is tasked with all military operations dealing with space as well as protection of the Empire’s satellites. Due to the nature of their work they work closly with the Cyberwarfare and Air Force branches.

Kaiserliche Küstenwache
The Imperial Coast Guard is tasked with defending the coast’s of the Empire as well as rescuing anyone in danger within the territorial waters of Germany. A smaller role they play is intercepting illegal imports and trafficking. They have 10 cutters, 12 patrol boats, and 1 small diesel-electric submarine to monitor underwater activity.

Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte
The Imperial Cyberwarfare Force is tasked with defending the nations online and interconnected infrastructure as well as conducting cyberattacks when warranted. In recent years the force has seen increased funding and a higher importance being placed on it making it a premier branch of the Armed Forces.

Kaiserliche Territorialgarde
The Territorial Guard is akin to the US National Guard and Polish Territorial Defense Force in that it is tasked with responding to natural disasters and emergency situations as well as fighting in unconventional warfare styles if Germany is ever invaded. It has an active duty of 32,000.

Extra military information:

GDP:
8.2 Trillion USD. 10.4 Trillion PPP USD.

GDP per Capita:
$67,213 USD

Currency:
Deutsche Mark

Currency and value of currency compared to USD:
1 DEM = 0.55 USD

Major Domestic Issues:
Kruschism remnants, integration of minorities.

Major Foreign Issues:
France, possible Russian aggression, old sentiments brewing anti-German sentiment abroad.

History:

2042: Seeking a means to stabilize the German nation and prevent another Krusch from ever rising again, the right-wing German Government official passes the Wiederherstellung des Reiches Act in late January. This act sees the three-month-long transfer of the Bundesrepublik into the reborn Deutsches Kaiserreich under Wilhelm IV, the 50-year-old descendent of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the last German Kaiser. Under the new Kaiser, the German nation stabilizes and the start of a second German Economic Miracle is kindled.

2043: As the German nation recovers, Kaiser Wilhelm IV places an importance on the nation’s military and starts a militaristic build up.

2044: With Germany on a clear rebound, the Kaiser approaches the reformed Austrian government which still finds itself in financial and societal shambles. Drawn by the promise of a strong and unifying leader as well as economic prosperity once more, the Austrian people vote overwhelmingly for unification and annexation into the German Empire. Lichtenstein follows Austria into the Empire. Later that same year Germany annexes Alsace-Loraine.

2045: Seeking protection and lured by the promise of the Kaiser to ensure the preservation of the Polish culture and history, the former Prussian lands in Poland join the German Empire by a popular vote bolstered by the sizeable German population living in the lands. In return Poland is granted free access to Prussian ports as a way to attempt at undoing past wrongs and ensuring peace. In addition the Kaiserreich starts PolAid to assist in the rebuilding of Polish society furthering goodwill between the two peoples.

2046: With the regained power of the German Empire now secure, the Kaiser approached the German speaking Swiss cantons who agree to join the Empire. Later in the year the Empire unilaterally annexed Eupen-Malmedy with strong support from the German speaking population.

2050: The son of Chancellor Krusch, Hans Krusch, makes an attempt of Kaiser Wilhelm IV while the Kaiser is traveling by train to Bonn from Berlin. The attempt fails and Hans is made the most wanted man in Europe. As a result of this the Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst is formed and given broad anti-Terrorism powers by the Reichstag.

2052: Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst agents report the successful elimination of Hans Krusch in Salzburg.

2054: Sightings of Hans are rumored but never confirmed. Wary of future French hostilities, Germany heavily fortifies Alsace-Loraine.

2055: On December 27th Kaiser Wilhelm IV dies unexpectedly while on holiday with his family in Bavaria at the age of 63 under mysterious circumstances although officially the reason is given as sudden heart failure.

2056: As the new year starts the mourning period for the late Kaiser nears its end with his funeral to be followed by the coronation of his 20 year old son, Wilhelm who shall become Wilhelm V.

RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=435351

Lowered several of my military numbers in land and naval forces to better reflect some feedback. Let me know what y'all think if it's good enough or if I made to severe of cuts anywhere.

This is a lot better though naval numbers could still be lower along with number of airplanes, though not by much at least for the number of airplanes.

[SangMar]

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NS Name: Chewion
RP Name: Official: German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich)
Unoffical: Germany

Capital: Berlin

Territory: Germany (minus Schleswig) , Austria, South Tyrol, Alsace-Lorain, Eupen-Malmedy, German-speaking Switzerland, Lichtenstein, most former Prussian lands in modern Poland and Russia (Kaliningrad Oblast, Lubuzs Voivodeship, Pomeranian Voivodeship, West Pomeranian Voivodeship, Lower Silesian Voivodeship, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, Silesian Voivodeship, and Opole Voivodeship.)

Population:
118,000,000

Type of Government:
Federal parliamentary
semi-constitutional monarchy

Government Explaination:
Similar to how the German Empire operated under the German Empire Constitution with the addition of powers of the Emperor to dissolve both the Bundesrat and Reichstag unilaterally. (Akin to how the British Monarch can technically dissolve the Parliament.) Also, the Kaiser has veto powers on legislation. With a strong-willed Kaiser, the Empire becomes a de-facto absolute monarchy due to these added powers.

Leader(s):
Kaiser Wilhelm V (Wilhelm Friedrich Ludwig Franz Joseph Hohenzollern)

Reichskanzler Stefan Müller
Image(s) of Leader(s):

(Image)

(Image)

Party or Coalition in Power:
Deutsche Kaiserpartei (DK) has a super majority in the parliament.

Executive Title: Kaiser (Emperor)

State Ideology: Monarchism with heavy conservative influences and a strong emphasis on Prussian Militarism as well as Pan-Germanism. Anti-Kruschism.

Ethnicity Breakdown:
German (Includes peoples such as Austrian and Swiss): 78.5%
Polish: 11.5%
French: 3%
Other: 7%

Religion Breakdown:
Christian: 59%
Non-Religious: 32%
Judaism: 3%
Other: 6%

Flag:

(Image)

National Anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajyBEcSbxdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPGx8AJovdA

National Motto:
Gott mit uns

Demonym:
German/s

Map Color:
Prussian Blue

Public Goals:
Continue economic growth, unite all German speaking peoples under the Kaiser, irradicate Kruschism.

Private Goals:
Become the world hegemon and promote German culture globally.


Military name:
Kaiserliche Streitkräfte

Military branches:
Kaiserliche Landstreitkräfte (Army)
Kaiserliche Marine (Navy)
Kaiserliche Luftwaffe (Air Force)
Kaiserliche Marine Korps (Marine Corps)
Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte (Space Force)
Kaiserliche Küstenwache (Coast Guard)
Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte (Cyberwarfare)
Kaiserliche Territorialgarde (National Guard)

Total military size:
Active Duty: 1.0 Million
Reserves: 2.3 Million

Breakdown of ground force(s):
Tanks: 1,222
APC/AFV: 21,000
SPA: 2,122
Towed-Artillery: 1,200
MLRS: 800

Breakdown of naval force(s):
Aircraft Carriers: 2
Helicopter Carriers: 3
Destroyers: 36
Submarines: 52
Cruisers: 25
Frigates: 22

Breakdown of air force(s):
Fighters: 1,224
Attack: 829
Transport: 910
Attack helicopters: 922
Helicopters: 4,339

Breakdown of other branch(es):

Kaiserliche Marine Korps
The Imperial Marine Corps is technically it’s own separate branch but is under the leadership of the Department of the Navy. It has 120,000 active duty members as well as 25,000 reservists.

Kaiserliche Raumstreitkräfte
The Imperial Space Force is tasked with all military operations dealing with space as well as protection of the Empire’s satellites. Due to the nature of their work they work closly with the Cyberwarfare and Air Force branches.

Kaiserliche Küstenwache
The Imperial Coast Guard is tasked with defending the coast’s of the Empire as well as rescuing anyone in danger within the territorial waters of Germany. A smaller role they play is intercepting illegal imports and trafficking. They have 10 cutters, 12 patrol boats, and 1 small diesel-electric submarine to monitor underwater activity.

Kaiserliche Cybersicherheitskräfte
The Imperial Cyberwarfare Force is tasked with defending the nations online and interconnected infrastructure as well as conducting cyberattacks when warranted. In recent years the force has seen increased funding and a higher importance being placed on it making it a premier branch of the Armed Forces.

Kaiserliche Territorialgarde
The Territorial Guard is akin to the US National Guard and Polish Territorial Defense Force in that it is tasked with responding to natural disasters and emergency situations as well as fighting in unconventional warfare styles if Germany is ever invaded. It has an active duty of 32,000.

Extra military information:

GDP:
8.2 Trillion USD. 10.4 Trillion PPP USD.

GDP per Capita:
$69,451 USD

Currency:
Deutsche Mark

Currency and value of currency compared to USD:
1 DEM = 0.55 USD

Major Domestic Issues:
Kruschism remnants, integration of minorities (Polish Nationalists/resistance movement, Russian nationalists in Kaliningrad).[/b]

Major Foreign Issues:
France, possible Russian aggression, old sentiments brewing anti-German sentiment abroad.

History:

2042: Seeking a means to stabilize the German nation and prevent another Krusch from ever rising again, the right-wing German Government official passes the Wiederherstellung des Reiches Act in late January. This act sees the three-month-long transfer of the Bundesrepublik into the reborn Deutsches Kaiserreich under Wilhelm IV, the 50-year-old descendent of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the last German Kaiser. Under the new Kaiser, the German nation stabilizes and the start of a second German Economic Miracle is kindled.

2043: As the German nation recovers, Kaiser Wilhelm IV places an importance on the nation’s military and starts a militaristic build up.

2044: With Germany on a clear rebound, the Kaiser approaches the reformed Austrian government which still finds itself in financial and societal shambles. Drawn by the promise of a strong and unifying leader as well as economic prosperity once more, the Austrian people vote overwhelmingly for unification and annexation into the German Empire. Lichtenstein follows Austria into the Empire. Later that same year Germany annexes Alsace-Loraine.

2045: Seeking protection and lured by the promise of the Kaiser to ensure the preservation of the Polish culture and history, the former Prussian lands in Poland join the German Empire by a popular vote bolstered by the sizeable German population living in the lands. In return Poland is granted free access to Prussian ports as a way to attempt at undoing past wrongs and ensuring peace. In addition the Kaiserreich starts PolAid to assist in the rebuilding of Polish society furthering goodwill between the two peoples.

2046: With the regained power of the German Empire now secure, the Kaiser approached the German speaking Swiss cantons who agree to join the Empire. Later in the year the Empire unilaterally annexed Eupen-Malmedy with strong support from the German speaking population.

2050: The son of Chancellor Krusch, Hans Krusch, makes an attempt of Kaiser Wilhelm IV while the Kaiser is traveling by train to Bonn from Berlin. The attempt fails and Hans is made the most wanted man in Europe. As a result of this the Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst is formed and given broad anti-Terrorism powers by the Reichstag.

2052: Kaiserlicher Ermittlungsdienst agents report the successful elimination of Hans Krusch in Salzburg.

2054: Sightings of Hans are rumored but never confirmed. Wary of future French hostilities, Germany heavily fortifies Alsace-Loraine.

2055: On December 27th Kaiser Wilhelm IV dies unexpectedly while on holiday with his family in Bavaria at the age of 63 under mysterious circumstances although officially the reason is given as sudden heart failure.

2056: As the new year starts the mourning period for the late Kaiser nears its end with his funeral to be followed by the coronation of his 20 year old son, Wilhelm who shall become Wilhelm V.

RP Example:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=435351

Lowered several of my military numbers in land and naval forces to better reflect some feedback. Let me know what y'all think if it's good enough or if I made to severe of cuts anywhere.

Changed a few things.

[Plzen]

Changed a few things.

Honestly I think you and Strala are being a bit pessimistic about Germany's prospects. Germany has somewhat less than twice our GDP, so it makes sense that they can afford roughly twice the military that we can. Sure, they've had many more disasters to recover from than we have, but then again, our equipment is probably more expensive than the German.

Germany can definitely afford 5 carriers and put ~3,000 aircraft in the air if it so desired based on those economic figures. Unless it's those economic figures you guys are trying to challenge?

[SangMar]

Changed a few things.

Honestly I think you and Strala are being a bit pessimistic about Germany's prospects. Germany has somewhat less than twice our GDP, so it makes sense that they can afford roughly twice the military that we can. Sure, they've had many more disasters to recover from than we have, but then again, our equipment is probably more expensive than the German.

Germany can definitely afford 5 carriers and put ~3,000 aircraft in the air if it so desired based on those economic figures. Unless it's those economic figures you guys are trying to challenge?

He changed it to 3, Plzen. I just shrunk it a bit more. Also, most of my changing regarded things like the ethnic composition of the state.

EDIT: It wasn’t entirely bad, I changed his GDP per capital to over $69,000. That’s more than what he had prior. Also yes, I did the GDP per capita calculator, so it’s all good and above board.

[Strala]

Changed a few things.

Honestly I think you and Strala are being a bit pessimistic about Germany's prospects. Germany has somewhat less than twice our GDP, so it makes sense that they can afford roughly twice the military that we can. Sure, they've had many more disasters to recover from than we have, but then again, our equipment is probably more expensive than the German.

Germany can definitely afford 5 carriers and put ~3,000 aircraft in the air if it so desired based on those economic figures. Unless it's those economic figures you guys are trying to challenge?

I'm not going to rant anymore until Germany states how much they spend on the military each year and what they are using such as how old is their equipment, also how is the GDP chart going Plzen? By the way Chewion I have no problem with 3 or 4 carriers, so you don't have to change it to 2. I was mainly commenting on the number of destroyers and submarines you had.

[Plzen]

I'm not going to rant anymore until Germany states how much they spend on the military each year and what they are using such as how old is their equipment, also how is the GDP chart going Plzen?

I'm revising an IC post; GDP chart will be worked on after I finish it.

[Plzen]

IC post is up; a small story about the underside of Copenhagen and the beginning of the sulphate aerosol project.

I'll get a response to your letter up later, Arv. Didn't quite get to it in this post.

[Strala]

IC post is up; a small story about the underside of Copenhagen and the beginning of the sulphate aerosol project.

I'll get a response to your letter up later, Arv. Didn't quite get to it in this post.

The first part reminds of the Hawaii trailer for Kaisserreich, though I fear that since the Northern Confederation isn't willing to cooperate, then China won't either.

[Plzen]

The first part reminds of the Hawaii trailer for Kaisserreich, though I fear that since the Northern Confederation isn't willing to cooperate, then China won't either.

Is Jonathan Allan a terrible person? Is he going to be a recurring character I'm going to write about often? Will the Copenhagen underground eat him up and spit him out? Who knows?

[Nazeroth]

The first part reminds of the Hawaii trailer for Kaisserreich, though I fear that since the Northern Confederation isn't willing to cooperate, then China won't either.

Is Jonathan Allan a terrible person? Is he going to be a recurring character I'm going to write about often? Will the Copenhagen underground eat him up and spit him out? Who knows?

Exciting

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

-snip-

The number of world powers with the technological and military capabilities to hit anything through Norden's sophisticated air defences can be counted on one hand, and we know it isn't Germany or Russia because our intelligence keeps a very keen eye on both threatening powers. That leaves... not a whole lot of potential candidates.

Japan is quite capable being that it has had decades of where it has not been limited by Article 9 and for the most part, stayed out of major wars. Japan is quite technologically advanced compared to the rest of the world IRL (while in many cases not militarily) some of these skills can easily be transferred over to military applications. Japan has some pretty interesting weapons. I am pretty sure if I used drones, which don't have the range, they could get in. And I have one missile I think that would be capable, but I will reveal its specs when I post my air force description later this week. Not to mention a number of countries (Cascasia, China, and I have working 6th generation fighters in which those would be hard to detect)

Now it really isn't hard to get though anyone's defenses if one uses the correct flight path, correct sized weapon, and at the correct altitude. You have little reason to be worried, since most of those options don't have the range. An example is the instance when Iran hit Saudi Arabian oil facilities, which mind you the country has a pretty good air defense, good experience, and has US weapons systems in the country.

If a state used cruise missiles set to a very very short altitude, they will go undetected. Same thing with small drones. Because for one you won't even be able to detect them. Two, even if you did detect the small drones and fired at them, you would also probably be firing at birds too.

Another way is in swarms. If a state launched thousands of missiles at a time, the odds of shooting every single one down are very very low. Even with a laser, the chances are still very low.

EDIT: I also note in your app at least, you have no AWAC aircraft as a part of your air force, who in most nations are in charge of most air defenses, which would put a heavy blow to your ability to detect incoming missiles, planes, and whatever is coming your way. I am sure this is just a mistake, but if not, basically, your air force's capabilities are a bit greater than that of most nations in World War Two. The planes are more advanced, and have some radar of their own, but that is limited. If a nation decided to attack your fighters, their warning would be limited by the extent of ground radar and their own.

[Plzen]

Well, by popular demand, here it is.

Assumptions, which I had to make because of incomplete information and because a lot of you have just plain inconsistent figures:
If a bare GDP figure was stated in USD with no explanation, I assumed it was real GDP (except for Siberia, which I figured had to be nominal GDP). If it was stated in local currency with no explanation, I assumed it was nominal. If a currency exchange rate was stated with no explanation, I assumed it was the PPP rate to 2020 USD. I assumed that price level varies at one-fourth the rate of variance of real GDP.
Quebec's figures were... odd. I figured he made a 3 order-of-magnitude error in writing down his GDP, and his GDPpc didn't match with his GDP and population, so I assumed the GDP was real and GDPpc was listed in nominal terms.
For Greece, which also had a similar mismatch, I assumed the opposite. It makes sense to me that prices will be high in Quebec and low in Greece.
Korea's disparity was too large to be explained away as that, so I just ignored his GDP figure and calculated it from his GDPpc. Same for Germany, since Germany already lists a nominal and PPP-adjusted GDP.
China had an unusually high price level, which I thought was kind of strange, but eh, whatever. Not my application.
For Northumbria, I assumed 1.25 USD to GBP.
For Japan, the app states that the GDP numbers were based on 2012 figures, so I assume those figures are in 2012 USD.

Also, keep in mind that many people gave population/GDP figures with just 2 or 3 significant digits, so in those cases the calculated numbers may not be very precise.

---

So, here's the compiled list, in alphabetical order:

Asian States, United
Real GDP: 12,643 billion NDK (28,623 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,080 billion NDK (13,766 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.26 UAD : NDK

Bonnie Blue Republic
Real GDP: 10,652 billion NDK (104,469 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 7,081 billion NDK (69,447 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.496 BBD : NDK

British Republic
Real GDP: 1,011 billion NDK (77,801 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 625 billion NDK (48,045 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.20 Merits : NDK

Cascadia, Federal Republic of
Real GDP: 8,220 billion NDK (223,062 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,606 billion NDK (179,248 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.209 CS$ : NDK

China, Reorganised People's Republic of
Real GDP: 22,924 billion NDK (29,540 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 22,847 billion NDK (29,441 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.75 RMB : NDK

Great Lakes, Republic of the
Real GDP: 846 billion NDK (9,719 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 310 billion NDK (3,568 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 24.2 $B : NDK

Greece, Kingdom of
Real GDP: 1,527 billion NDK (79,942 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 911 billion NDK (47,682 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.0592 Drachma : NDK

Japan, State of
Real GDP: 17,850 billion NDK (132,915 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 12,603 billion NDK (93,840 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 59.6 Yen : NDK

Korea, Republic of
Real GDP: 7,839 billion NDK (97,983 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 5,128 billion NDK (63,100 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1,300 Won : NDK

New England, United Provinces of
Real GDP: 2,011 billion NDK (114,921 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 1,369 billion NDK (78,239 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.465 Florin : NDK

Northern Commonwealth
Real GDP: 16,476 billion NDK (534,940 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 16,476 billion NDK (534,940 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1 NDK : 1 NDK (obviously)

Northumbria, Republic of
Real GDP: 621 billion NDK (174,773 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 470 billion NDK (132,135 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: > not stated <

Quebecois Order
Real GDP: 11,950 billion NDK (146,085 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 17,652 billion NDK (215,798 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.00122 Juliet : NDK

Russian Empire
Real GDP: 15,479 billion NDK (77,191 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,532 billion NDK (32,575 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 66.9 Ruble : NDK

Siberian Confederation
Real GDP: 160 billion NDK (8,004 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 56 billion NDK (2,799 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 2.26 SIB : NDK

Southern Republic, New
Real GDP: 10,367 billion NDK (179,514 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 7,890 billion NDK (136,630 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.346 ND$ : NDK

---

Not yet accepted, but I did one anyways:

German Empire
Real GDP: 26,297 billion NDK (222,853 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 14,802 billion NDK (125,441 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1.28 DEM : NDK

If this is accepted, Germany will displace China as the largest economy in this RP. Norden's untouchable position as the single richest country by far (in per-capita terms, that is), though, seems fairly secure for now.

[Chewion]

Well, by popular demand, here it is.

Assumptions, which I had to make because of incomplete information and because a lot of you have just plain inconsistent figures:
If a bare GDP figure was stated in USD with no explanation, I assumed it was real GDP (except for Siberia, which I figured had to be nominal GDP). If it was stated in local currency with no explanation, I assumed it was nominal. If a currency exchange rate was stated with no explanation, I assumed it was the PPP rate to 2020 USD. I assumed that price level varies at one-fourth the rate of variance of real GDP.
Quebec's figures were... odd. I figured he made a 3 order-of-magnitude error in writing down his GDP, and his GDPpc didn't match with his GDP and population, so I assumed the GDP was real and GDPpc was listed in nominal terms.
For Greece, which also had a similar mismatch, I assumed the opposite. It makes sense to me that prices will be high in Quebec and low in Greece.
Korea's disparity was too large to be explained away as that, so I just ignored his GDP figure and calculated it from his GDPpc. Same for Germany, since Germany already lists a nominal and PPP-adjusted GDP.
China had an unusually high price level, which I thought was kind of strange, but eh, whatever. Not my application.
For Northumbria, I assumed 1.25 USD to GBP.
For Japan, the app states that the GDP numbers were based on 2012 figures, so I assume those figures are in 2012 USD.

Also, keep in mind that many people gave population/GDP figures with just 2 or 3 significant digits, so in those cases the calculated numbers may not be very precise.

---

So, here's the compiled list, in alphabetical order:

Asian States, United
Real GDP: 12,643 billion NDK (28,623 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,080 billion NDK (13,766 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.26 UAD : NDK

Bonnie Blue Republic
Real GDP: 10,652 billion NDK (104,469 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 7,081 billion NDK (69,447 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.496 BBD : NDK

British Republic
Real GDP: 1,011 billion NDK (77,801 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 625 billion NDK (48,045 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.20 Merits : NDK

Cascadia, Federal Republic of
Real GDP: 8,220 billion NDK (223,062 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,606 billion NDK (179,248 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.209 CS$ : NDK

China, Reorganised People's Republic of
Real GDP: 22,924 billion NDK (29,540 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 22,847 billion NDK (29,441 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.75 RMB : NDK

Great Lakes, Republic of the
Real GDP: 846 billion NDK (9,719 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 310 billion NDK (3,568 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 24.2 $B : NDK

Greece, Kingdom of
Real GDP: 1,527 billion NDK (79,942 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 911 billion NDK (47,682 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.0592 Drachma : NDK

Japan, State of
Real GDP: 17,850 billion NDK (132,915 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 12,603 billion NDK (93,840 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 59.6 Yen : NDK

Korea, Republic of
Real GDP: 7,839 billion NDK (97,983 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 5,128 billion NDK (63,100 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1,300 Won : NDK

New England, United Provinces of
Real GDP: 2,011 billion NDK (114,921 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 1,369 billion NDK (78,239 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.465 Florin : NDK

Northern Commonwealth
Real GDP: 16,476 billion NDK (534,940 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 16,476 billion NDK (534,940 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1 NDK : 1 NDK (obviously)

Northumbria, Republic of
Real GDP: 621 billion NDK (174,773 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 470 billion NDK (132,135 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: > not stated <

Quebecois Order
Real GDP: 11,950 billion NDK (146,085 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 17,652 billion NDK (215,798 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.00122 Juliet : NDK

Russian Empire
Real GDP: 15,479 billion NDK (77,191 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,532 billion NDK (32,575 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 66.9 Ruble : NDK

Siberian Confederation
Real GDP: 160 billion NDK (8,004 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 56 billion NDK (2,799 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 2.26 SIB : NDK

Southern Republic, New
Real GDP: 10,367 billion NDK (179,514 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 7,890 billion NDK (136,630 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.346 ND$ : NDK

---

Not yet accepted, but I did one anyways:

German Empire
Real GDP: 26,297 billion NDK (222,853 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 14,802 billion NDK (125,441 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1.28 DEM : NDK

If this is accepted, Germany will displace China as the largest economy in this RP. Norden's untouchable position as the single richest country by far (in per-capita terms, that is), though, seems fairly secure for now.

Dang... really good work! Also my exchange rate was based on the past IRL information I could find which would’ve been the Mark to Dollar rate before the Euro was adopted.

[HypErcApitAl]

Well, by popular demand, here it is.

Assumptions, which I had to make because of incomplete information and because a lot of you have just plain inconsistent figures:
If a bare GDP figure was stated in USD with no explanation, I assumed it was real GDP (except for Siberia, which I figured had to be nominal GDP). If it was stated in local currency with no explanation, I assumed it was nominal. If a currency exchange rate was stated with no explanation, I assumed it was the PPP rate to 2020 USD. I assumed that price level varies at one-fourth the rate of variance of real GDP.
Quebec's figures were... odd. I figured he made a 3 order-of-magnitude error in writing down his GDP, and his GDPpc didn't match with his GDP and population, so I assumed the GDP was real and GDPpc was listed in nominal terms.
For Greece, which also had a similar mismatch, I assumed the opposite. It makes sense to me that prices will be high in Quebec and low in Greece.
Korea's disparity was too large to be explained away as that, so I just ignored his GDP figure and calculated it from his GDPpc. Same for Germany, since Germany already lists a nominal and PPP-adjusted GDP.
China had an unusually high price level, which I thought was kind of strange, but eh, whatever. Not my application.
For Northumbria, I assumed 1.25 USD to GBP.
For Japan, the app states that the GDP numbers were based on 2012 figures, so I assume those figures are in 2012 USD.

Also, keep in mind that many people gave population/GDP figures with just 2 or 3 significant digits, so in those cases the calculated numbers may not be very precise.

---

So, here's the compiled list, in alphabetical order:

Asian States, United
Real GDP: 12,643 billion NDK (28,623 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,080 billion NDK (13,766 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.26 UAD : NDK

Bonnie Blue Republic
Real GDP: 10,652 billion NDK (104,469 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 7,081 billion NDK (69,447 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.496 BBD : NDK

British Republic
Real GDP: 1,011 billion NDK (77,801 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 625 billion NDK (48,045 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.20 Merits : NDK

Cascadia, Federal Republic of
Real GDP: 8,220 billion NDK (223,062 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,606 billion NDK (179,248 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.209 CS$ : NDK

China, Reorganised People's Republic of
Real GDP: 22,924 billion NDK (29,540 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 22,847 billion NDK (29,441 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 5.75 RMB : NDK

Great Lakes, Republic of the
Real GDP: 846 billion NDK (9,719 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 310 billion NDK (3,568 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 24.2 $B : NDK

Greece, Kingdom of
Real GDP: 1,527 billion NDK (79,942 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 911 billion NDK (47,682 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.0592 Drachma : NDK

Japan, State of
Real GDP: 17,850 billion NDK (132,915 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 12,603 billion NDK (93,840 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 59.6 Yen : NDK

Korea, Republic of
Real GDP: 7,839 billion NDK (97,983 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 5,128 billion NDK (63,100 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1,300 Won : NDK

New England, United Provinces of
Real GDP: 2,011 billion NDK (114,921 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 1,369 billion NDK (78,239 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.465 Florin : NDK

Northern Commonwealth
Real GDP: 16,476 billion NDK (534,940 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 16,476 billion NDK (534,940 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1 NDK : 1 NDK (obviously)

Northumbria, Republic of
Real GDP: 621 billion NDK (174,773 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 470 billion NDK (132,135 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: > not stated <

Quebecois Order
Real GDP: 11,950 billion NDK (146,085 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 17,652 billion NDK (215,798 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.00122 Juliet : NDK

Russian Empire
Real GDP: 15,479 billion NDK (77,191 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 6,532 billion NDK (32,575 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 66.9 Ruble : NDK

Siberian Confederation
Real GDP: 160 billion NDK (8,004 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 56 billion NDK (2,799 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 2.26 SIB : NDK

Southern Republic, New
Real GDP: 10,367 billion NDK (179,514 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 7,890 billion NDK (136,630 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 0.346 ND$ : NDK

---

Not yet accepted, but I did one anyways:

German Empire
Real GDP: 26,297 billion NDK (222,853 per capita)
Nominal GDP: 14,802 billion NDK (125,441 per capita)
Market Exchange Rate: 1.28 DEM : NDK

If this is accepted, Germany will displace China as the largest economy in this RP. Norden's untouchable position as the single richest country by far (in per-capita terms, that is), though, seems fairly secure for now.

That was pretty good. I was confused as to why you used the July instead of the Gen, but it makes sense (since the July is small, and it'd be easier to put it on a scale/graph/chart than the Gen bill/banknote. I also guess that's because it's in Crown/Kroner. That's also impartial of you.)

[Sarderia]

The number of world powers with the technological and military capabilities to hit anything through Norden's sophisticated air defences can be counted on one hand, and we know it isn't Germany or Russia because our intelligence keeps a very keen eye on both threatening powers. That leaves... not a whole lot of potential candidates.

Japan is quite capable being that it has had decades of where it has not been limited by Article 9 and for the most part, stayed out of major wars. Japan is quite technologically advanced compared to the rest of the world IRL (while in many cases not militarily) some of these skills can easily be transferred over to military applications. Japan has some pretty interesting weapons. I am pretty sure if I used drones, which don't have the range, they could get in. And I have one missile I think that would be capable, but I will reveal its specs when I post my air force description later this week. Not to mention a number of countries (Cascasia, China, and I have working 6th generation fighters in which those would be hard to detect)

Now it really isn't hard to get though anyone's defenses if one uses the correct flight path, correct sized weapon, and at the correct altitude. You have little reason to be worried, since most of those options don't have the range. An example is the instance when Iran hit Saudi Arabian oil facilities, which mind you the country has a pretty good air defense, good experience, and has US weapons systems in the country.

If a state used cruise missiles set to a very very short altitude, they will go undetected. Same thing with small drones. Because for one you won't even be able to detect them. Two, even if you did detect the small drones and fired at them, you would also probably be firing at birds too.

Another way is in swarms. If a state launched thousands of missiles at a time, the odds of shooting every single one down are very very low. Even with a laser, the chances are still very low.

EDIT: I also note in your app at least, you have no AWAC aircraft as a part of your air force, who in most nations are in charge of most air defenses, which would put a heavy blow to your ability to detect incoming missiles, planes, and whatever is coming your way. I am sure this is just a mistake, but if not, basically, your air force's capabilities are a bit greater than that of most nations in World War Two. The planes are more advanced, and have some radar of their own, but that is limited. If a nation decided to attack your fighters, their warning would be limited by the extent of ground radar and their own.

I'll have to agree with you in this case. It is impossible that nothing could break through one nation's air defences. In fact, it should be Japan, China, Russia, Cascadia, the BBR, and the Mid-Atlantic Republic who have the most sophisticated air defenses and stealth equipments, because in real life the precursor nations have already developed those kind of technologies - and the successor nations inherited the companies, plants, and equipments to manufacture such things. Japan has Mitsubishi, Russia has United Aircrafts Corporation, China has the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group, and the US splinter states has Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman.

I am also quite curious to the supposed technological superiority Norden has compared to the rest of the world. Scandinavia isn't really a Silicon Valley-type economy compared to other places (Israel, Shenzhen, California, Japan, South Korea, etc) and there is surprisingly little amount of technological companies based on Scandinavia - Nokia, Ericsson, Spotify, and Skype among only the biggest. Compare it to China who has Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent, etc; Japan with Sony, Panasonic, etc; and without mentioning the United States, because nearly every major technology we have IRL has their origins either in California or Washington. Another notable point is most advanced technological companies are known for being big data - take Amazon who has the resources to develop Alexa, Apple with Siri, Google with the Assistant, and others such as Tencent, Microsoft, Baidu, SAP (which is in Germany), etc. Scandinavia's technological companies aren't known for being big data either - with the notable exception of Spotify, Skype (which is increasingly shrinking in user count) and Nokia.

Norway does have a significant boost in technological capability as they are a major internet host nation, and is home to the Kolos Data Centre, but then again every major country I have compared the Scandinavia has their own. So I would not think that Scandinavia has such a large technological disparity that the rest of the world looked like barbarians.

[HypErcApitAl]

Japan is quite capable being that it has had decades of where it has not been limited by Article 9 and for the most part, stayed out of major wars. Japan is quite technologically advanced compared to the rest of the world IRL (while in many cases not militarily) some of these skills can easily be transferred over to military applications. Japan has some pretty interesting weapons. I am pretty sure if I used drones, which don't have the range, they could get in. And I have one missile I think that would be capable, but I will reveal its specs when I post my air force description later this week. Not to mention a number of countries (Cascasia, China, and I have working 6th generation fighters in which those would be hard to detect)

Now it really isn't hard to get though anyone's defenses if one uses the correct flight path, correct sized weapon, and at the correct altitude. You have little reason to be worried, since most of those options don't have the range. An example is the instance when Iran hit Saudi Arabian oil facilities, which mind you the country has a pretty good air defense, good experience, and has US weapons systems in the country.

If a state used cruise missiles set to a very very short altitude, they will go undetected. Same thing with small drones. Because for one you won't even be able to detect them. Two, even if you did detect the small drones and fired at them, you would also probably be firing at birds too.

Another way is in swarms. If a state launched thousands of missiles at a time, the odds of shooting every single one down are very very low. Even with a laser, the chances are still very low.

EDIT: I also note in your app at least, you have no AWAC aircraft as a part of your air force, who in most nations are in charge of most air defenses, which would put a heavy blow to your ability to detect incoming missiles, planes, and whatever is coming your way. I am sure this is just a mistake, but if not, basically, your air force's capabilities are a bit greater than that of most nations in World War Two. The planes are more advanced, and have some radar of their own, but that is limited. If a nation decided to attack your fighters, their warning would be limited by the extent of ground radar and their own.

I'll have to agree with you in this case. It is impossible that nothing could break through one nation's air defences. In fact, it should be Japan, China, Russia, Cascadia, the BBR, and the Mid-Atlantic Republic who have the most sophisticated air defenses and stealth equipments, because in real life the precursor nations have already developed those kind of technologies - and the successor nations inherited the companies, plants, and equipments to manufacture such things. Japan has Mitsubishi, Russia has United Aircrafts Corporation, China has the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group, and the US splinter states has Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Northrop Grumman.

I am also quite curious to the supposed technological superiority Norden has compared to the rest of the world. Scandinavia isn't really a Silicon Valley-type economy compared to other places (Israel, Shenzhen, California, Japan, South Korea, etc) and there is surprisingly little amount of technological companies based on Scandinavia - Nokia, Ericsson, Spotify, and Skype among only the biggest. Compare it to China who has Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent, etc; Japan with Sony, Panasonic, etc; and without mentioning the United States, because nearly every major technology we have IRL has their origins either in California or Washington. Another notable point is most advanced technological companies are known for being big data - take Amazon who has the resources to develop Alexa, Apple with Siri, Google with the Assistant, and others such as Tencent, Microsoft, Baidu, SAP (which is in Germany), etc. Scandinavia's technological companies aren't known for being big data either - with the notable exception of Spotify, Skype (which is increasingly shrinking in user count) and Nokia.

Norway does have a significant boost in technological capability as they are a major internet host nation, and is home to the Kolos Data Centre, but then again every major country I have compared the Scandinavia has their own. So I would not think that Scandinavia has such a large technological disparity that the rest of the world looked like barbarians.

True. Plzen's just being very cocky again. Honestly, I'm just waiting for someone to give him his slice of Humble Pie. I guess this is it, though.

[OS42]

What's the deal with banning Islam Quebec? Perhaps a softening of this position could bring about an alignment with London. Also what exactly is in this care package you're sending?

[Plzen]

-snip-

If you followed the chain of reasoning that led to that response, you'd have noticed that at no point did I claim that Norden's air defences were impenetrable.

What I did say is that they're good enough that if someone did manage to pierce it and strike a military target, that leaves a pretty short list of potential "someones" for us to investigate. It's not the kind of thing you can cover with plausible deniability and say "terrorists must've done it". You cannot hide a military operation of that scale. If someone manages to bomb our military installations then we know for sure that it's a major power, of which there aren't that many. We will know who you are, and we will know who to retaliate against.

I will also add that 36 years is a long time. In 1984 South Korea was a second-rate developing country. Why would Scandinavia be incapable of transforming itself on a similarly drastic scale, especially considering all the advantages that we had going in our favour after the Central European War? Certainly with both Continental Europe and Asia tearing itself apart in unstable civil wars, there would have been an exodus of both capital and labour and we'd have absorbed a big part of that in the 2040s.

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That was pretty good. I was confused as to why you used the July instead of the Gen, but it makes sense (since the July is small, and it'd be easier to put it on a scale/graph/chart than the Gen bill/banknote. I also guess that's because it's in Crown/Kroner. That's also impartial of you.)

Of course it's written in kroner. :p Why would I ever choose something else? There isn't really a big dominant economy in this RP, nothing comparable to the US dollar. I imagine most foreign reserves would rely on a fairly even mix of several prominent currencies - in addition to NDK, probably the Cascadian Dollar, Chinese Yuan, Japanese Yen... there's no real reason to write my figures in a particular currency, so I just picked the one I'm most familiar with - my own.

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True. Plzen's just being very cocky again. Honestly, I'm just waiting for someone to give him his slice of Humble Pie. I guess this is it, though.

No matter how many foreigners there are and no matter how good they are at war and fighting, that doesn't make them truly civilised people!

Norden definitely leans towards the nationalistic side of things in this RP. Politically I imagine that the Centre would have absorbed the Nordic Freedom bloc parties, since both are fairly protective of what they see as the Nordic way of life without really being socially conservative per se. The usual sticking point is that Centre tend to be fairly liberal-internationalistic, but the Central European War would've changed that. They're very proud of their way of life and social institutions in 2056, even if a bunch of impoverished foreigners insist on calling it "dystopian", "hopeless", and other such hurtful words. ;)

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

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If you followed the chain of reasoning that led to that response, you'd have notice that at no point did I claim that Norden's air defences were impenetrable.

What I did say is that they're good enough that if someone did manage to pierce it and strike a military target, that leaves a pretty short list of potential "someones" for us to investigate. It's not the kind of thing you can cover with plausible deniability and say "terrorists must've done it". If someone manages to bomb our military installations then we know for sure that it's a major power, of which there aren't that many. We will know who you are, and we will know who to retaliate against.

I will also add that 36 years is a long time. In 1984 South Korea was a second-rate developing country. Why would Scandinavia be incapable of transforming itself on a similarly drastic scale, especially considering all the advantages that we had going in our favour after the Central European War? Certainly with Continental Europe tearing itself apart in civil wars and actual wars, there would have been an exodus of both capital and labour and we'd have absorbed a big part of that in the 2040s.

I am not sure if you read anything I wrote but I will do a brief recap since you could just scroll up...

-Most cruise missiles while expensive are capable of avoiding detection (meaning basically any country is capable of hitting you) Take Iranian cruise missiles bypassing both Saudi and American radar and defenses to hit Saudi oil.
-Drones which are cheap and easy to make are very capable of hitting targets and going undetected due to their small size, and ability to fly very low like cruise missiles, except they can be much smaller
-In your current app you lack AWACs meaning your military has zero detection capabilities outside of home or your ships, making your air forces vulnerable, and nearly as effective as that in WW2. Your post shows the classical ww2 tactic of sending out scouts (drones in this case) which are completely ineffective. They are looking for hostile forces sure, but this to cover a large area is very hard and costly
-Multiple countries have 6th generation fighters capable of avoiding detection (I can't speak for others but Japan has an export version for the 6th generation fighter they operate)

Overall, it would be easy to claim terrorist did it. Many terrorist groups use drones to hit targets worldwide. They are fairly simple and cheap but very effective. Again you are operating off of a WW2 like principal that a plane is required to drop a bomb. There are four ways that don't require a plane that I know of. 1. Missile 2. Drone 3. Cyber Attack 4. Long range artillery

Long range artillery is an interesting topic, as there are railguns under development that would be able to hit from a hidden location hundreds of miles away with no one knowing who was responsible. Although there are some railroad guns that while impossible to mount on a ship, would be able to fire from 100+ miles away.

To know who carried out the attack in modern day is quite hard. It usually requires a group or nation to take responsibility. To be able to tell who's tech was who's would moreover require you to either get amazing footage of the attacks (hard) or to capture an attacking personnel or whatever was being used to carry out the attack which if using drones, is also hard. It would almost be godmodding to know who carried out the attack without specific proof of who carried it out.

In my case, if I launched a drone strike, which would purposely utilize non-Japanese style drones, I could successfully hit targets and while you would be able to determine the area the strike originated from, the drones would not be able to have been launched from Japan anyways. I strive for realism. And if your government finds out it has been attacked, but in a limited fashion and doesn't know exactly who did it, maybe have a rough guess but no solid proof, 9 times out of 10 that sane government will not launch a military response, especially on a nation thousands of miles away where you have no bases, no assets.

I agree with Sarderia, you do not have anything that is so technologically advanced that it would make major powers look like peasants. And you probably aren't able to easily identify origin either, especially on unmarked craft. Also South Korea is a bad example, they had a lot of support from the US.