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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:43 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:we are minimalising space taken for that reason. Also, in terms of size, Brazil is a superpower


Size isn't everything. Also, minimalizing space taken? I don't think so. Peru, Chile, and Argentina are all able to break away from Brazil and would be more than happy to. They speak a completely different language and they have a pretty different culture to that of Brazil.

You've basically created an Empire with so many different ethnicities that they are unconquerable because of population. Bolivia and the land being claimed by them is home to more people than there are Bolivia. Quite litteraly they could vote for their independence and leave with little to no contest because they won the popular vote.

You can conqueror a land, crush and dominate a people, and destroy their cultural sights. But you can never take their identity away from them. And that identidy is what will become you Achilles Heel; like it has for every Empire.

I hope yours falls. Mine will inevitably.
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Postby Romextly » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:45 am

I wanted to give them more land. Like put a puppet state that was way more, and I had the coast and brazil, northern argentina

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Postby Romextly » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 am

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The division of Argentina should be like this. Argentina will be dependent on us, will supply voluntary manpower in wars and it will makes us look good in front of the world for freeing people from communism.

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Postby Wasi State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:52 am

Romextly wrote:([url=https://i.ibb.co/yVwWj4d/Screen-Shot-2020-07-06-at-1-47-23-PM.png]Image)[/url]
The division of Argentina should be like this. Argentina will be dependent on us, will supply voluntary manpower in wars and it will makes us look good in front of the world for freeing people from communism.

Gotta say quite the improvement.
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Mathuvan Union
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:54 am

Romextly wrote:([url=https://i.ibb.co/yVwWj4d/Screen-Shot-2020-07-06-at-1-47-23-PM.png]Image)[/url]
The division of Argentina should be like this. Argentina will be dependent on us, will supply voluntary manpower in wars and it will makes us look good in front of the world for freeing people from communism.

looks good. they will join atlantic pact as well
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Postby Monsone » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:56 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Size isn't everything. Also, minimalizing space taken? I don't think so. Peru, Chile, and Argentina are all able to break away from Brazil and would be more than happy to. They speak a completely different language and they have a pretty different culture to that of Brazil.

You've basically created an Empire with so many different ethnicities that they are unconquerable because of population. Bolivia and the land being claimed by them is home to more people than there are Bolivia. Quite litteraly they could vote for their independence and leave with little to no contest because they won the popular vote.

You can conqueror a land, crush and dominate a people, and destroy their cultural sights. But you can never take their identity away from them. And that identidy is what will become you Achilles Heel; like it has for every Empire.

I hope yours falls. Mine will inevitably.


Mine basically already did. All of Saharan and Sub-Saharan French Africa is free.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:05 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:I hope yours falls. Mine will inevitably.


Mine basically already did. All of Saharan and Sub-Saharan French Africa is free.

with new plan i have less of a empire
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Postby Bolslania » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:08 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Size isn't everything. Also, minimalizing space taken? I don't think so. Peru, Chile, and Argentina are all able to break away from Brazil and would be more than happy to. They speak a completely different language and they have a pretty different culture to that of Brazil.

You've basically created an Empire with so many different ethnicities that they are unconquerable because of population. Bolivia and the land being claimed by them is home to more people than there are Bolivia. Quite litteraly they could vote for their independence and leave with little to no contest because they won the popular vote.

You can conqueror a land, crush and dominate a people, and destroy their cultural sights. But you can never take their identity away from them. And that identidy is what will become you Achilles Heel; like it has for every Empire.

I hope yours falls. Mine will inevitably.



His already has. He let them go peacefully. Yours will fall apart more violently probably

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Postby Monsone » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:10 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Mine basically already did. All of Saharan and Sub-Saharan French Africa is free.

with new plan i have less of a empire

Alright. One question. Did you give part of Chile to Bolivia?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:18 pm

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:with new plan i have less of a empire

Alright. One question. Did you give part of Chile to Bolivia?

Going to
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Postby Wasi State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:39 pm

These IC wars need some oversight to say the least, wars aren't fought this quickly. It'll be one thing if months to a year go by in the IC in a shorter period of IRL time, but you're only limited to a month's worth of progress until the OP says the time has moved, and there's only so much that can be done frontline wise in a month. Unless the country is that small and disorganized that a few supposedly "poorly" defended victory points are needed to make the country collapse and sue for peace, it doesn't seem likely that so many conflicts can be this one-sided and curb stomped into submission.
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Postby Monsone » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:55 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
OOC" Then that is 100% Godmodding. TBH you have godmodded again and again. This is a semi-active player, you need to give him a chance to respond.

OOC:
A) since when were you op? Oh right you aren’t
B) you god moded as well when you invaded japan; somehow you managed to take it over in 1 day. How is that possible? Japan is a archipelago of thousands of islands.
C) the player hasn’t been in for days.


To Siam's credit, they are RP-ing as a Japanese controlled Siam. And considering the Japanese hate Korea both IRL and in this timeline, they Japanese people are cooperative with the "Siamese" troops because they are a) actually Japanese in many cases, and b) liberating them from a greater menace. If the local populace is aiding you, the invasion will be a lot easier. They will likely rat out the enemy because they are more content with the invaders than the occupiers. Not to mention that there are several times more Japanese than Koreans in 1950.

But generally wars take months and more commonly years depending on enemy strength, distance from your nation to the front line, production capacity, natural resource reserves, morale, numerical strength, tactics and a whole lot more. There are reasons wars last as long as they do.
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:06 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
OOC" Then that is 100% Godmodding. TBH you have godmodded again and again. This is a semi-active player, you need to give him a chance to respond.

OOC:
A) since when were you op? Oh right you aren’t
B) you god moded as well when you invaded japan; somehow you managed to take it over in 1 day. How is that possible? Japan is a archipelago of thousands of islands.
C) the player hasn’t been in for days.



I'm going to address this like this.

1. I am not OP but I have played enough games to recognize you are godmodding. You don't even know what godmodding is. Godmodding is controlling the enemy's troops or leaders. You have done that with your controlling of enemy forces, and proclaiming their surrender.

My invasion of Japan lasted from IRL June 14th to IRL June 30th. With planning having occurred in the lore of my nation since 1945. Your invasion included little if any time of planning and build up. I have allowed for my invasion to have taken 8 in game months, although mine is much easier as it is individual resistance groups taking over their home cities from Korean forces, while Siamese troops are mainly assisting and providing supplies. I estimate with my use of resistance groups, I could have had potentially 28 million civilian fighters attacking a Korean force of around 300,000. Much easier to do since these are civilian resistance forces, organized in 1944 as the Volunteer Fighting Corps. Korea doesn't have the manpower to do much. He lost a good chunk of his army in the Philippines and has the rest of his me split defending the large expanse of Japan and Korea.

You on the other hand are going against these resistance groups, so your invasion would be slowed and could take years.

2. People have IRL stuff they have to deal with. This RP is very quick paced, but in other RPs, people are busy and they may post once a week or once a month even.
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Postby Romextly » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:21 pm

mathuvan, how about we start the invasion all over and plan this out. the new president can spare 30,000 troops

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Postby Draos » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:23 pm

Sorry for wrapping mine up quickly I just start a new job this week and wanted to wrap it up just in case I don't have time anymore :(
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:38 pm

Romextly wrote:mathuvan, how about we start the invasion all over and plan this out. the new president can spare 30,000 troops

Fine. It will be done in roughly one month, give or take.
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Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:03 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Romextly wrote:mathuvan, how about we start the invasion all over and plan this out. the new president can spare 30,000 troops

Fine. It will be done in roughly one month, give or take.


Argentina has been active in the past, your success is not guaranteed.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:10 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Fine. It will be done in roughly one month, give or take.


Argentina has been active in the past, your success is not guaranteed.

DID I EVER SAY THAT IT WAS?!
STOP PICKING A DAMNED FIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING I SAY
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Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Postby Monsone » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:15 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Fine. It will be done in roughly one month, give or take.


Argentina has been active in the past, your success is not guaranteed.


Speaking of which, why is Siam/Japan invading Korea? That was NOT part of the deal when it came to aid donations. Liberating the Japanese home islands? Sure, that was part of the deal. But invading the Korean peninsula? The aid was not for that. It was to liberate Japan, not create a new Japanese Empire in the process.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:37 pm

Monsone wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Argentina has been active in the past, your success is not guaranteed.


Speaking of which, why is Siam/Japan invading Korea? That was NOT part of the deal when it came to aid donations. Liberating the Japanese home islands? Sure, that was part of the deal. But invading the Korean peninsula? The aid was not for that. It was to liberate Japan, not create a new Japanese Empire in the process.

:rofl:
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Update: apparently it’s bleating sheep.

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Postby Romextly » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:46 pm

Maybe revenge?

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Postby Wasi State » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:07 pm

South African Naval Forces
SAS Pietermaritzburg- Algerine Minesweeper -85 Crew
SAS Bloemfontein- Algerine Minesweeper - 85 Crew

SAS Skilpad-Minelayer - 24 Crew

SAS Protea- Terje Class Anti-Sub Whaler -85 Crew
SAS Sonneblom- Terje Class Anti-Sub Whaler -85 Crew
SAS Immortelle- Terje Class Anti-Sub Whaler -85 Crew


SAS Good Hope- Loch Class Frigate -114 Crew
SAS Natal- Loch Class Frigate -114 Crew
SAS Transvaal- Loch Class Frigate -114 Crew

SAS Jan Van Riebeeck- W Class Destroyer- 179 Crew

SAS Sommerset- Bar Class Boom Defense Vessel -32 Crew
SAS Fleur- Bar Class Boom Defense Vessel -32 Crew

11x HDML Boats- 132 Crew Total
12x PT Boats -120 Crew Total

1,264 Active Sailors
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:20 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Argentina has been active in the past, your success is not guaranteed.

DID I EVER SAY THAT IT WAS?!
STOP PICKING A DAMNED FIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING I SAY

You imply it in your wording, and additionally your post tend to almost always god mod. You had no response to what I said previously because you understand I am right.

Monsone wrote:
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Argentina has been active in the past, your success is not guaranteed.


Speaking of which, why is Siam/Japan invading Korea? That was NOT part of the deal when it came to aid donations. Liberating the Japanese home islands? Sure, that was part of the deal. But invading the Korean peninsula? The aid was not for that. It was to liberate Japan, not create a new Japanese Empire in the process.


Japan is forced to invade as I cannot assume Korea would surrender. That would be god modding. Even though he is an NPC, I will continue to invade, in case he does come back and intends to resist. Japan is in no position to let the war continue for years and years. It is very good timing also since Soviet Union is in rebellion, France and Germany's markets recently crashed, South America is at war with itself, so no one is paying attention to Japan, and additionally it is stopping communism. I am sure is we still had the American player this operation would see American funding. There has been no international comment on it so far so seems like the operation is doing well. I assume by now Busan is in my hands and the surrounding areas.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:31 pm

Because I’m getting a lot of flak for this war,

IT IS NULL AND VOID AND NEVER EXISTED
I will go after Uruguay instead
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Postby Romextly » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:36 pm

Uruguay is owned by Vaas

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