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Postby Sarderia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:22 am

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Sarderia wrote:Germany, why do you decline? At least let me have the StuG

For a similar price I can sell you AMX-13 tanks and Panhard EBRs. And for significantly more money, you can buy AMX-50 series tanks.

I thought the AMX-13 was produced in 1952, and the AMX-50 was tested between 1950-1953. I don't know whether the AMX-50 was ever produced though.
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Postby Bolslania » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:30 am

Sarderia wrote:Germany, can I have the Elektroboot subs, Panzer IV, and StuG IV vehicles? I'm going to need them as a backup in the invasion of Jordan


Yes on the STUGs and Panzers, no on the elektroboots.

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Postby Monsone » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:30 am

Sarderia wrote:
Monsone wrote:For a similar price I can sell you AMX-13 tanks and Panhard EBRs. And for significantly more money, you can buy AMX-50 series tanks.

I thought the AMX-13 was produced in 1952, and the AMX-50 was tested between 1950-1953. I don't know whether the AMX-50 was ever produced though.


1) In this RP the AMX-50 does exist and is being produced. The AMX-50 is your best bet since IRL it could be in production in 1950. The AMX-13 began production in 1951 IRL but the original version dates back to 1949, and the original production version in this RP is tje baseline AMX-13/75 with the SA50 gun which could have been built in 1950 considering all the parts where ready for production by the.

2) The tests from 1950-1953 relate to the AMX-50/120 specifically. The AMX-50/100 was shown on Bastille Day 1950 in it's complete form. IRL it was never produced but in this RP it is.
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Postby Bolslania » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:31 am

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Wasi State wrote:It's not like I can seize Equatorial Guinea in the chaos, that'll be too absurd.


no one cares about southafrica

i need economic help, son


Well you've been kind of a dick (IC-ly, OOC-ly you're cool) so IC-ly we have no inclination to help you.

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Postby Sarderia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:39 am

Monsone wrote:
Sarderia wrote:I thought the AMX-13 was produced in 1952, and the AMX-50 was tested between 1950-1953. I don't know whether the AMX-50 was ever produced though.


1) In this RP the AMX-50 does exist and is being produced. The AMX-50 is your best bet since IRL it could be in production in 1950. The AMX-13 began production in 1951 IRL but the original version dates back to 1949, and the original production version in this RP is tje baseline AMX-13/75 with the SA50 gun which could have been built in 1950 considering all the parts where ready for production by the.

2) The tests from 1950-1953 relate to the AMX-50/120 specifically. The AMX-50/100 was shown on Bastille Day 1950 in it's complete form. IRL it was never produced but in this RP it is.

Well, I think I'll have the AMX-50, and maybe the blueprints if possible. It has an autoloader I thought, so it'll be a nice new addition to test in the attempted coup in Jordan.

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Sarderia wrote:Germany, can I have the Elektroboot subs, Panzer IV, and StuG IV vehicles? I'm going to need them as a backup in the invasion of Jordan


Yes on the STUGs and Panzers, no on the elektroboots.

Why not? The French has it I thought, why wont you sell to Iran

Also, 6 million? It's WW2 excess, 6 million in 1950 equals to somewhere between 1 to 2 billion in 2020, you can buy a frigate with that
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Postby Monsone » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:42 am

Sarderia wrote:
Monsone wrote:
1) In this RP the AMX-50 does exist and is being produced. The AMX-50 is your best bet since IRL it could be in production in 1950. The AMX-13 began production in 1951 IRL but the original version dates back to 1949, and the original production version in this RP is tje baseline AMX-13/75 with the SA50 gun which could have been built in 1950 considering all the parts where ready for production by the.

2) The tests from 1950-1953 relate to the AMX-50/120 specifically. The AMX-50/100 was shown on Bastille Day 1950 in it's complete form. IRL it was never produced but in this RP it is.

Well, I think I'll have the AMX-50, and maybe the blueprints if possible. It has an autoloader I thought, so it'll be a nice new addition to test in the attempted coup in Jordan.

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Yes on the STUGs and Panzers, no on the elektroboots.

Why not? The French has it I thought, why wont you sell to Iran


Perfect. Send me an IC telegram requesting the purchase of the tanks. Also, Germany had no choice when I took their Elektroboots. They where war reparations.
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Postby Bolslania » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:44 am

Sarderia wrote:
Monsone wrote:
1) In this RP the AMX-50 does exist and is being produced. The AMX-50 is your best bet since IRL it could be in production in 1950. The AMX-13 began production in 1951 IRL but the original version dates back to 1949, and the original production version in this RP is tje baseline AMX-13/75 with the SA50 gun which could have been built in 1950 considering all the parts where ready for production by the.

2) The tests from 1950-1953 relate to the AMX-50/120 specifically. The AMX-50/100 was shown on Bastille Day 1950 in it's complete form. IRL it was never produced but in this RP it is.

Well, I think I'll have the AMX-50, and maybe the blueprints if possible. It has an autoloader I thought, so it'll be a nice new addition to test in the attempted coup in Jordan.

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Yes on the STUGs and Panzers, no on the elektroboots.

Why not? The French has it I thought, why wont you sell to Iran


The French didn't buy the Elektroboots, they confiscated them.

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Postby Sarderia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:46 am

Bolslania wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Well, I think I'll have the AMX-50, and maybe the blueprints if possible. It has an autoloader I thought, so it'll be a nice new addition to test in the attempted coup in Jordan.


Why not? The French has it I thought, why wont you sell to Iran


The French didn't buy the Elektroboots, they confiscated them.

Yeah well, why won't you sell it to a willing customer then.

Also we've already discounted oil for you and financed your loans. Those blueprints and products ought to be sigmificantly cheaper.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:46 am

Monsone wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Well, I think I'll have the AMX-50, and maybe the blueprints if possible. It has an autoloader I thought, so it'll be a nice new addition to test in the attempted coup in Jordan.


Why not? The French has it I thought, why wont you sell to Iran


Perfect. Send me an IC telegram requesting the purchase of the tanks. Also, Germany had no choice when I took their Elektroboots. They where war reparations.

1) How much for AMX-50s? I need to modernise my military far more than right now
2) do you have jet planes?
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Postby Monsone » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:57 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Perfect. Send me an IC telegram requesting the purchase of the tanks. Also, Germany had no choice when I took their Elektroboots. They where war reparations.

1) How much for AMX-50s? I need to modernise my military far more than right now
2) do you have jet planes?


1) $300,000 in 1950 dollars. But do you even have the infrastructure for these tanks? They weight 50+ tons, and that is far from being light in 1950.

2) Yes. But the best one currently for sale is the French built version of the de Haviland Venom FB.5. And that costs $180,000 each.
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Postby Bolslania » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:59 am

Sarderia wrote:
Bolslania wrote:
The French didn't buy the Elektroboots, they confiscated them.

Yeah well, why won't you sell it to a willing customer then.

Also we've already discounted oil for you and financed your loans. Those blueprints and products ought to be sigmificantly cheaper.


Its 6 million USD for hundreds of combat-ready vehicles. That's pretty good.

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Postby Sarderia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:15 am

Bolslania wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Yeah well, why won't you sell it to a willing customer then.

Also we've already discounted oil for you and financed your loans. Those blueprints and products ought to be sigmificantly cheaper.


Its 6 million USD for hundreds of combat-ready vehicles. That's pretty good.

Those are very overpriced. 6 million USD in 1950 would've equalled with 63 million dollars in 2020. Even the M1 Abrams tank only cose 6,21 million 2020 dollars.

I suggest US$ 200,000 considering it's a WW2 leftover, and I'd accept US$400,000 or more for the blueprints.
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List of Ships of the Imperial Japanese Navy:

The Imperial Japanese Navy currently operates: 1 Light Carrier; 1 Seaplane Tender; 20 Heavy Cruisers; 31 Light Cruisers; 55 Destroyers; 16 Escort Ships; 2 Submarines; 1 Cable Layer; 567 Transports; 25 Cargo Transports; and several dozen auxiliary ships .

AIRCRAFT CARRIERS:
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Ships in Service: Hosho
-Armament: 4 × single (5.5 in) 14 cm/50 3rd Year Type guns; 2 × single (3.15 in) 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type AA guns
-Planes Carried: 15
-Armor: None
-Max Speed: 25 knots
-Notes: Built in 1922 and serving as a training ship until 1945, this carrier was transferred by its Japanese crew in 1945 to Siamese service where former Japanese forces built up their strength. It saw several retrofits to repair the ship and make it more capable to carry newer planes in 1947. Upon the Japanese liberation in 1950, it has been placed back into Imperial Japanese service and retains many of its original crew. It now stands as the pride of the Imperial Japanese Navy.


SEAPLANE TENDERS:
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Ships in Service: Kiyokawa Maru
-Armament: 2 x 5.9-inch guns; 2 x Type 96 25 mm (0.98 in) AA guns; 2 x 13.2 mm (0.52 in) AA guns
-Planes Carried: 36
-Max Speed: 28 knots
-Notes: Rebuilt in 1941 and turned over by her Japanese crew to Siamese service in 1945, the ship has served with the Royal Siamese Navy until in 1950 it has been returned to Japanese service.


HEAVY CRUISERS:
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Number in Service: 10
-Armament: 7 × single BL 7.5-inch Mark VI guns; 3 × single QF 4-inch (102 mm) Mk.V AA guns; 4 × single QF 3-inch 20 cwt Mk.I AA guns; 2 × single QF 2-pounder (40 mm) Mk.II AA guns; 6 x 21 inch torpedo tubes
-Armor: Main Belt: 1.5-3 in; Upper Belt: 1.5-2 in; Upper Deck: 1-1.5 in; Main Deck: 1-1.5 in; Gun Shields: 1-1.5 in
-Max Speed: 31 knots
-Notes: Known formerly as the Hawkins Class, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.

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Number in Service: 10
-Armament: 4 × twin BL 8-inch (203 mm L/50) Mk.VIII guns; 4 × single QF 4-inch (102 mm) L/45 Mk.V AA guns; 2 × quad QF 2-pounder (40 mm) L/39 Mk.VIII AA guns; 8 × quad 0.5-inch (12.7 mm L/50) Mk.III AA machine guns; 8 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Main Belt: 1-4.5 in; Deck: 1.25-1.5 in; Citadels: 1-4 in; Turrets: 1 in
-Max Speed: 31.5 knots
-Notes: Formerly known as the County Class, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.


LIGHT CRUISERS:
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Number in Service: 14
-Armament: 5 x single BL 6-inch (152.4 mm) Mk XII guns; 2 x single QF 3 inch 20 cwt Mk I AA guns; 2 x single QF 2-pounder AA guns; 8 x 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Machinery Spaces: 3 in; Magazines: 2.25 in; Deck: 1 in
-Max Speed: 29.5 knots
-Notes: Formerly the the C-Class, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.

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Number in Service: 4
-Armament: 6 × single BL 6-inch (152.4 mm) L/45 Mark XII guns; 2 × QF 3 inch 20 cwt L/45 Mk.I AA guns; 2 × QF 2-pounder L/39 Mk.II AA guns; 4 × triple 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes
-Armor: Belt: 1.5-3 in; Deck: 1 in; Gunshields: 1 in
-Max Speed: 29 knots
-Notes: Still called the Danae Class but pronounced differently, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.

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Number in Service: 2
-Armament: 2 × twin BL 6-inch (152 mm) L/50 Mk XXIII guns; 5 × single BL 6-inch (152 mm) L/45 Mk XII guns; 3 × single QF 4 in L/45 (102 mm) Mk.V AA guns; 2 × QF 2 pdr pom-pom (40 mm) Mk.II AA guns; 4 x quad 21 inch torpedo tubes; 9 x machine guns
-Armor: Belt: 1.5-3 in; Deck: 1 in
-Max Speed: 33 knots
-Notes: Formerly called the Emerald Class, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.

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Number in Service: 5
-Armament: 4 × twin BL 6 in (152 mm) guns; 4 × single QF 4 in (102 mm) AA guns; 3 × quadruple 0.5 in (12.7 mm) AA machineguns; 2 × quadruple 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes
-Aircraft Carried: 1 Seaplane
-Armor: Magazine: 3 in; Deck: 1 in; Turrets: 1 in
-Max Speed: 32.5 knots
-Notes: Formerly called the Leander Class, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.

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Number in Service: 5
-Armament: 6 × twin BL 6 in (152 mm) Mk. XXIII guns; 4 × single QF 4 in (102 mm) Mk. V AA guns; 8 × twin QF 4 in (102 mm) Mk. XVI AA guns; 8 × quad 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Mk. III Vickers machine guns; 6 × 21-inch (533-mm) torpedo tubes
-Aircraft Carried: 1 Plane
-Armor: Magazine: 1-3 in; Belt: 2.25 in; Deck/Turret: 1 in
-Notes: Formerly called the Arethusa Class, these were gifted from the British Government in 1949 to aid the Siamese war effort and in 1950, they have transitioned into Japanese service, although their crews remain the to be made up of both Siamese and Japanese sailors.

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Number in Service: 1
-Armament: 2 × twin 140 mm (5.5 in)/50 cal. guns; 1 × twin 127 mm (5 in)/40 cal. AA gun; 30 × Type 96 AA guns; 8 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in) AA guns; 4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
-Aircraft Carried: 1 Floatplane
-Max Speed: 18 knots
-Notes Built in 1940 for the Imperial Japanese Navy, this ship was captured in 1945 by American Forces, and then used to return POWs to Japan until 1947 when it was seized by Korea. The ship was then captured in 1950 by the Royal Siamese Navy as it was undergoing a refit and has since been returned later in 1950 to the Imperial Japanese Navy.


1ST CLASS DESTROYERS:
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Number in Service: 2
-Armament: 4 × single Type 3 120 mm 45 caliber naval guns; 2 × 7.7mm machine guns; 6 × 53cm torpedoes; 20 × mines
-Max Speed: 39 knots
-Notes: Built by the Imperial Japanese Navy in 1919, these were captured in 1945 by the Koreans and in 1950 were captured by the Royal Siamese Navy in 1950 while siting in port in Tokyo Bay. They were damaged in the attacks and have since gone under repair as they are transferred the Imperial Japanese Navy.

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Number in Service: 10
-Armament: 4 × single QF 4.7-inch (120 mm) Mk IX guns; 2 × single QF 2-pounder anti-aircraft guns; 2 × quad 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes
-Max Speed: 35 knots
-Notes: These destroyers were gifted to Siam by the British Government in 1949 to aid the war effort, and in 1950, they were transferred into Japanese service. Being the "newest" destroyers from England, these serve in the frontline capacity.

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Number in Service: 3
-Armament: 3 × 127 mm (5.0 in) L/40 Type 89 AA guns; 39 × 25 mm (1") Type 96 AA guns; 4 × 610 mm (24 in) Type 92 torpedo tubes; 4 x depth charge throwers; 48 × Type 2 depth charges
-Max Speed: 27.8 knots
-Notes: Built in 1943 for the Imperial Japanese Navy, captured by the Koreans in 1945, captured by the Royal Siamese Navy in 1949 in Kyushu, returned to Imperial Japanese Navy 1950.


2ND CLASS DESTROYERS:
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Number in Service: 20
-Armament: 4 × single QF 4 in Mk.V (102mm L/45) guns; 2 × QF 2 pdr Mk.II "pom-pom" (40 mm L/39) anti-aircraft guns; 6 x 21 inch torpedo tubes
-Max Speed: 34 knots
-Notes: These destroyers were gifted to Siam by the British Government in 1949 to aid the war effort, and in 1950, they were transferred into Japanese service. These destroyers, being obsolete and having been built from 1917 to 1924, have been moved into secondary roles.

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Number in Service: 20
-Armament: 3 × 4 in/50 cal guns; 1 × 3 in/23 anti-aircraft gun; 2 × triple 21 in torpedo tubes
-Max Speed: 35 knots
-Notes: Formerly the Town Class, these destroyers were gifted to Siam from the British Government in 1949 to aid the war effort, and in 1950, they were transferred into Japanese service. These destroyers are quite aged, having been first given to the British from the Americans and is a World War I era destroyer, so now it has been moved into secondary roles.


ESCORT SHIPS:
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Number in Service: 5
-Armament: 3 × 120 mm (4.7 in)/45 cal DP guns; 2 × twin Type 96 25 mm (0.98 in) AA machine guns; 2 × Type 94 depth charge projectors; 16 × Type 3 depth charge throwers; 2 × depth charge chutes; 120 × depth charges
-Max Speed: 19.5 knots
-Notes: Built in 1943 for the Imperial Japanese Navy, these ships were captured by the Koreans in 1946. Captured in the Ryukyu in 1949 by the Royal Siamese Navy, they have been returned into Japanese service.

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Number in Service: 3
-Armament: 2 × 120 mm (4.7 in)/45 cal DP guns; 1 × 81 mm (3.2 in) mortar; 2 × triple Type 96 25 mm (0.98 in) AA machine guns; 12 × Type 3 depth charge throwers; 1 × depth charge chute; 120 × depth charges
-Max Speed: 16.5 knots
-Notes: Built in 1944 for the Imperial Japanese Navy and 1 in 1946 finished by the Korean Navy, these were captured in 1949 by the Royal Siamese Navy and have since been returned to Japanese service.

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Number in Service: 8
-Armament: 2 × 120 mm (4.7 in)/45 cal DP guns; 1 × 81 mm (3.2 in) mortar; 2 × triple Type 96 25 mm (0.98 in) AA machine guns; 12 × Type 3 depth charge throwers; 1 × depth charge chute; 120 × depth charges
-Max Speed: 17.5 knots
-Notes: Built in 1943 for the Imperial Japanese Navy, they were captured by American Forces in 1945. From there Korean forces took them in 1946 until they were captured by the Royal Siamese Navy in 1949 and turned over to the Imperial Japanese Navy in 1950.


SUBMARINES:
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Number in Service: 2
-Armament: 8 × 533 mm forward torpedo tubes; 1 × 14 cm/40 11th Year Type naval gun; 3 × 25 mm triple-mounted Type 96 autocannon; 1 × single-mounted 25 mm Type 96 autocannon
-Aircraft Carried: 3 x Seaplanes
-Max Speed: 18.7 knots (surfaced); 6.5 knots (submerged)


CABLE LAYERS:
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Number in Service: 1
-Armament: 1 × 76.2 mm (3.00 in) L/40 AA gun; 2 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in) AA guns; 9 × depth charges; 12 × Type 92 remotely controlled mines
-Max Speed: 14 knots
-Notes: Built in 1940 and turned over by her Japanese crew to Siamese service in 1945, the ship has served with the Royal Siamese Navy until in 1950 it has been returned to Japanese service.


MILITARY TRANSPORTS:
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Number in Service: 250
-Armament: 8 × 40 mm AA guns; 12 × 20 mm AA guns
-Capacity: 163 troops
-Max Speed: 12 knots
-Notes: Gifted to Royal Siamese Navy in 1949 from France, transferred to Imperial Japanese Navy Service in 1950.

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Number in Service: 250
-Armament: 2 × .30 cal. (7.62 mm) Browning machine guns
-Capacity: 36 troops
-Max Speed: 12 knots
-Notes: Gifted to Royal Siamese Navy in 1949 from France, transferred to Imperial Japanese Navy Service in 1950.


CARGO TRANSPORTS:
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Number in Service: 25
-Armament: 1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/38-caliber gun; 3 x 2 × 3-inch (76.2-mm)/50-caliber guns; 8 × Oerlikon 20 mm cannons
-Capacity: 10,856 tons
-Max Speed: 11.5 knots
-Notes: Gifted to Royal Siamese Navy in 1949 from France, transferred to Imperial Japanese Navy Service in 1950.



List of Ships of the Royal Siamese Navy:

The Royal Siamese Navy currently operates 2 Coastal Defense Ships; 2 Light Cruisers; 2 Escort Vessels; 3 Destroyers; 4 Submarines; 8 Torpedo Boats; 1 Minelayer; 6 Minesweepers; 1 Fishery Protection Ship; 7 transports, and several dozen auxiliary ships.

COASTAL DEFENSE SHIPS:
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Ships in Service: Thonburi, Sri Ayudhya
-Armament: 2 × twin 8 in (203 mm) guns; 4 × 3 in (76 mm) anti-aircraft guns; 4 × 40mm anti-aircraft guns
-Armor: Belt: 2.5 in; Turrets: 4 in; Barbettes: 4 in; Decks: 1-1.5 in
-Max Speed: 15.5 knots


LIGHT CRUISERS:
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Number in Service: 2
-Armament: 3 × twin 135 mm (5.3 in)/45 OTO-Ansaldo 1938 guns; 10 × 65 mm (2.6 in)/64 Ansaldo-Terni 1939 AA guns; 10 × twin 20 mm (1 in)/65 Breda 1935 AA guns
-Armor: Deck: 0.8-1.4 in; Belt: 2.4 in
-Max Speed: 28 knots


ESCORT SHIPS:
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Ships in Service: Maeklong, Tachin
-Armament: 4 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns; 2 × 20 mm AA guns; 4 × 18 inch torpedo tubes
-Aircraft Carried: 1 Floatplane
-Max Speed: 17 knots


DESTROYERS:
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Number in Service: 3
-Armament: 3 × QF 4-inch (101.6 mm) Mark IV guns; 1 × single 2-pounder (40-mm) "pom-pom" Mk. II anti-aircraft gun; 4 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes
-Max Speed: 36 knots


SUBMARINES:
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Number in Service: 4
-Armament: 1 × 76/25-mm gun; 1 × 8-mm gun; 4 × 450-mm torpedo tubes
-Max Speed: 10-14.5 knots
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:43 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:1) How much for AMX-50s? I need to modernise my military far more than right now
2) do you have jet planes?


1) $300,000 in 1950 dollars. But do you even have the infrastructure for these tanks? They weight 50+ tons, and that is far from being light in 1950.

2) Yes. But the best one currently for sale is the French built version of the de Haviland Venom FB.5. And that costs $180,000 each.

We will buy a plane and if possible a blueprint
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Postby Monsone » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:51 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
1) $300,000 in 1950 dollars. But do you even have the infrastructure for these tanks? They weight 50+ tons, and that is far from being light in 1950.

2) Yes. But the best one currently for sale is the French built version of the de Haviland Venom FB.5. And that costs $180,000 each.

We will buy a plane and if possible a blueprint


Sorry, the minimum order for the planes is one squardron (depending on your contry, the squadron can be huge or small). As for the AMX-50, the blueprints are not for sale due to the sentivite technology they detail. But the tanks still are.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:56 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:We will buy a plane and if possible a blueprint


Sorry, the minimum order for the planes is one squardron (depending on your contry, the squadron can be huge or small). As for the AMX-50, the blueprints are not for sale due to the sentivite technology they detail. But the tanks still are.

We will buy 2 squadrons. I was asking for a blueprint of the de havilland.
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Postby Monsone » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:58 am

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Sorry, the minimum order for the planes is one squardron (depending on your contry, the squadron can be huge or small). As for the AMX-50, the blueprints are not for sale due to the sentivite technology they detail. But the tanks still are.

We will buy 2 squadrons. I was asking for a blueprint of the de havilland.


Alright. The blueprint will be a further $95,000. And how many planes will the two squadrons be?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:00 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:We will buy 2 squadrons. I was asking for a blueprint of the de havilland.


Alright. The blueprint will be a further $95,000. And how many planes will the two squadrons be?

40 planes
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Mathuvan Union wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Alright. The blueprint will be a further $95,000. And how many planes will the two squadrons be?

40 planes

Alright. That comes out to $7.295 million for 40 planes and a blueprint. Now make sure to place an order in the IC thread as to make it official IC-ly.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:22 am

Monsone wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:40 planes

Alright. That comes out to $7.295 million for 40 planes and a blueprint. Now make sure to place an order in the IC thread as to make it official IC-ly.

Roger that, will do. Thanks.
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Hypercapital wrote:Vaas is a no-good Anarcho-Capitalist, smuggler, bandit,raider state, but guess what? They're useful. They occupy the Bahamas (I think) and they also hate the British. I didn't want to deal w/ their asses atfirst, but I am kinda desperate and I'd basically need blackmail and whatnot on those damned English.


I'm further south on Saint Lucia and some other surrounding islands.

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Slaver Pirates of Vaas wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:Vaas is a no-good Anarcho-Capitalist, smuggler, bandit,raider state, but guess what? They're useful. They occupy the Bahamas (I think) and they also hate the British. I didn't want to deal w/ their asses atfirst, but I am kinda desperate and I'd basically need blackmail and whatnot on those damned English.


I'm further south on Saint Lucia and some other surrounding islands.

you're like a hornet of sorts TBH
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Slaver Pirates of Vaas wrote:
I'm further south on Saint Lucia and some other surrounding islands.

you're like a hornet of sorts TBH


What do you mean by that?

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Slaver Pirates of Vaas wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:you're like a hornet of sorts TBH


What do you mean by that?

You can sting everyone and always come back to do it again
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