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TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON
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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Sat May 16, 2020 7:52 pm

Country Name: Kingdom of Siam
Fictional or Real: Semi-Fiction
Head of State: Prime Minister Plaek Phibunsongkhram
Government Type: Military Dictatorship
Capital: Bangkok
GDP: 25 billion 1949 USD
Population: 27,647,242
Location: Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos
History: The same up until 1945.

At the end of the conflict, Thailand regained independence from Japan, but despite this, the Prime Minister who was friendly to the Japanese in the war remained in power. Upon the collapse of Japan to the Koreans, the Japanese commanders in the country and their troops cut a deal to stay in Thailand to avoid prosecution and death upon arrival in the now communist Japan. The country remains under heavy Japanese influence and the Seri Thai movement has since been crushed by the Prime Minister.

Faction: Not aligned, but leans towards NATO
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:53 pm

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Diarcesia wrote:Will it also mean an earlier AMX tank? If it is, I wonder if Hongma would buy some of them.

What I'm thinking is: they'll reestablish economic contact with Diarcesia (if OP allows, still not involved in the cold war) and pave the way for the latter to develop its Apsychia MBT in the 80s.


All equiqment and weapons can only be created the date they were created in irl time no earlier (i'll put this in the roles)

Wait why
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 7:56 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:
All equiqment and weapons can only be created the date they were created in irl time no earlier (i'll put this in the roles)

Wait why

becuase people will get to overpowered
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:58 pm

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Wait why

becuase people will get to overpowered

If everyone becomes stronger at the same time...there's no difference
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 8:01 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Country Name: Kingdom of Siam
Fictional or Real: Semi-Fiction
Head of State: Prime Minister Plaek Phibunsongkhram
Government Type: Military Dictatorship
Capital: Bangkok
GDP: 25 billion 1949 USD
Population: 27,647,242
Location: Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos
History: The same up until 1945.

At the end of the conflict, Thailand regained independence from Japan, but despite this, the Prime Minister who was friendly to the Japanese in the war remained in power. Upon the collapse of Japan to the Koreans, the Japanese commanders in the country and their troops cut a deal to stay in Thailand to avoid prosecution and death upon arrival in the now communist Japan. The country remains under heavy Japanese influence and the Seri Thai movement has since been crushed by the Prime Minister.

Faction: Not aligned, but leans towards NATO


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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 8:06 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:becuase people will get to overpowered

If everyone becomes stronger at the same time...there's no difference

Just becuase something is invented in a certain time does not mean that everyone has that thing at that time first people need to know it exists, then they got get blueprints, then they got to build it. For example lets say france invented a tank in 1950. first other country would need to
know that france made a new tank, get blueprints for it, and build it
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Postby Monsone » Sat May 16, 2020 8:13 pm

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I think someone has underestimated the power of Napalm in jungle and forest terrain.

Also, there needs to be leasons each nation learns after a war. So I'm thinking that because of the war with Rashid, France is going to develop a lot more modern military equipment early on
For example the Panahrd EBR will enter service in 1950 instead of 1951, the SA50 tank gun will be created earlier on, and a new French tank will be built specifically with desert fighting and insurgent wars in mind.

Will it also mean an earlier AMX tank? If it is, I wonder if Hongma would buy some of them.What I'm thinking is: they'll reestablish economic contact with Diarcesia (if OP allows, still not involved in the cold war) and pave the way for the latter to develop its Apsychia MBT in the 80s.


Well, yes and no. It's basically an M4A3E8 Sherman chassis with a M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo style turret that is enlarged and firrted with the SA 49 Anti-Tank gun which has better performance than either the short 75mm or long 76mm from the Sherman and it has comprable performance to the American 90mm tankg guns. Starting next year, the improved SA 50 tank gun will be offered with a muzzel velocity of 1000 m/s (these are the real test statistics).

In response to OP: I get the part about no developing weapons before they existend in real life, but the Panhard EBR was based off a design from 1939, and in 1949 all it's components existed, so it's not too far fetched to think the Panhard EBR could eneter service a year earlier. As for the SA 50, it's based off the Panzaer V Panther's gun from WW2, and is a lenghtened SA 49. So in 1949 a prottype could the created and fielded theoretically by 1950 since the technology already exists and is basicaly the SA 49 with a longer barrel.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Sat May 16, 2020 8:13 pm

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Diarcesia wrote:It does bring soul-searching on their part... "what if we ended up being the colonizers?"

And honestly, I wanted to see white nationalists have a stroke when they read "African-occupied Spain" and "African-occupied Italy"


imma have a stroke fr-fr if someone in africa tries to occupy Polaria
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Sat May 16, 2020 8:15 pm

it'd force me to finally side w/ the Soviets or Americans. or maybe soviets, since Portugal leans West tho.
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 8:19 pm

Monsone wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Will it also mean an earlier AMX tank? If it is, I wonder if Hongma would buy some of them.What I'm thinking is: they'll reestablish economic contact with Diarcesia (if OP allows, still not involved in the cold war) and pave the way for the latter to develop its Apsychia MBT in the 80s.


Well, yes and no. It's basically an M4A3E8 Sherman chassis with a M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo style turret that is enlarged and firrted with the SA 49 Anti-Tank gun which has better performance than either the short 75mm or long 76mm from the Sherman and it has comprable performance to the American 90mm tankg guns. Starting next year, the improved SA 50 tank gun will be offered with a muzzel velocity of 1000 m/s (these are the real test statistics).

In response to OP: I get the part about no developing weapons before they existend in real life, but the Panhard EBR was based off a design from 1939, and in 1949 all it's components existed, so it's not too far fetched to think the Panhard EBR could eneter service a year earlier. As for the SA 50, it's based off the Panzaer V Panther's gun from WW2, and is a lenghtened SA 49. So in 1949 a prottype could the created and fielded theoretically by 1950 since the technology already exists and is basicaly the SA 49 with a longer barrel.


if there is blueprints for it and you have the technology to make it, you can make it however it will have to be a minimum of 6 months to build
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Postby Monsone » Sat May 16, 2020 8:21 pm

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Well, yes and no. It's basically an M4A3E8 Sherman chassis with a M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo style turret that is enlarged and firrted with the SA 49 Anti-Tank gun which has better performance than either the short 75mm or long 76mm from the Sherman and it has comprable performance to the American 90mm tankg guns. Starting next year, the improved SA 50 tank gun will be offered with a muzzel velocity of 1000 m/s (these are the real test statistics).

In response to OP: I get the part about no developing weapons before they existend in real life, but the Panhard EBR was based off a design from 1939, and in 1949 all it's components existed, so it's not too far fetched to think the Panhard EBR could eneter service a year earlier. As for the SA 50, it's based off the Panzaer V Panther's gun from WW2, and is a lenghtened SA 49. So in 1949 a prottype could the created and fielded theoretically by 1950 since the technology already exists and is basicaly the SA 49 with a longer barrel.


if there is blueprints for it and you have the technology to make it, you can make it however it will have to be a minimum of 6 months to build


Seems logical for a 1950 entry into service then. Thanks!
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Postby Biotopia » Sat May 16, 2020 10:36 pm

@DR africa

Due to the IRL time differences it won't be practical to RP a real time conversation. I propose we nut out some agreements we can publish as IC documents.

First one is a memorandum between our two countries, agreeing to some basic principles:

- Agree to the general principle of supporting an African future that is respectful of human rights, peaceful, prosperous, democratic and independent from the economic, political and cultural control of non-Africans
- Agree to discuss African issues together in order to present a united front on the international stage
- Mutually support claims for compensation from colonised states
- Create a pan African organisation to pursue this mission

On that last point: found the Pan-African Organisation
- Exists to promote and co-ordinate pan-African solidarity and decolonisation, and the development of the continent's economic, scientific, political and cultural progress
- Bound to pursue these goals through the principle human rights, democracy, peace, prosperity, equality, and justice
- Membership will comprise of representatives from any independent majority-democratic African state
- Associate membership extended to democratic independence movements and governments in exile
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat May 16, 2020 10:52 pm

I'm just letting y'all knows OTL, I plan developing my colonies so that they will be viable nations when they get their independence.
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Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Current Year: 2752
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Postby Monsone » Sat May 16, 2020 11:06 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:I'm just letting y'all knows OTL, I plan developing my colonies so that they will be viable nations when they get their independence.


I have a smiliar plan in place, sans the independence part. If you replace that with the slow but steady Francization of the former French colonies along with modernization, then that's the plan of the French Five Year Plan.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sat May 16, 2020 11:24 pm

TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Country Name: Kingdom of Siam
Fictional or Real: Semi-Fiction
Head of State: Prime Minister Plaek Phibunsongkhram
Government Type: Military Dictatorship
Capital: Bangkok
GDP: 25 billion 1949 USD
Population: 27,647,242
Location: Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos
History: The same up until 1945.

At the end of the conflict, Thailand regained independence from Japan, but despite this, the Prime Minister who was friendly to the Japanese in the war remained in power. Upon the collapse of Japan to the Koreans, the Japanese commanders in the country and their troops cut a deal to stay in Thailand to avoid prosecution and death upon arrival in the now communist Japan. The country remains under heavy Japanese influence and the Seri Thai movement has since been crushed by the Prime Minister.

Faction: Not aligned, but leans towards NATO

Oh, nice seeing you here

Surprised you didn't go for Japanese revolutionaries or something, considering Japan's currently controlled by a Communist Korea

Anyways, you want some financial support?
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Postby Americae Roma » Sun May 17, 2020 12:50 am

Ok, are we having the ceasefire with Rashid Caliphate

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sun May 17, 2020 12:51 am

Americae Roma wrote:Ok, are we having the ceasefire with Rashid Caliphate

Yes
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sun May 17, 2020 12:56 am

Uh oh looks like Madagascar might go nationalistic Bolshevikism with the election results
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sun May 17, 2020 1:05 am

Free Ward Marchers wrote:Uh oh looks like Madagascar might go nationalistic Bolshevikism with the election results

Welp, time for a Western intervention
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Postby Malay Raya » Sun May 17, 2020 2:52 am

I was editing the map and didn't know that papua new guinea was Australian territory in 1949. #Themoreyouknow
I'll edit this post with the link to the new map.

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sun May 17, 2020 3:20 am

Malay Raya wrote:I was editing the map and didn't know that papua new guinea was Australian territory in 1949. #Themoreyouknow
I'll edit this post with the link to the new map.

EDIT:
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v. Page 42 | Post #20
-Added Siam, Australia & Northern Italy countries

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Postby Americae Roma » Sun May 17, 2020 3:36 am

when will ceasefire end with Rashid Caliphate?

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sun May 17, 2020 3:39 am

Americae Roma wrote:when will ceasefire end with Rashid Caliphate?


Gotta ask France on that one buddy
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun May 17, 2020 5:43 am

Free Ward Marchers wrote:Uh oh looks like Madagascar might go nationalistic Bolshevikism with the election results

That post is definitely made by nazbol gang

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Postby Brunswick-upon-Raritan » Sun May 17, 2020 5:45 am

Wait can someone solve this dilemma for me; if Polaria is where IRL Spain is, and Spain... does it exist? How were the Mexicans and Filipinos and Californians colonized by the Spanish if Spain doesn't exist? Or what happened to Spain?

Also what are the status of players for Hellenistic Kingdom, Sultanate of Vlasisitan, and North Arabia?

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