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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:38 am

Romextly wrote:
Draos wrote:you can't dictate that get out of MY plotline.

Draos, look at it this way. This is the cold war. There are two major sides. WP and NATO. The US goals is to beat the WP and communism, while making NATO on top. If a nation that is not aligned to NATO, tries to take a area that gives them alot of money and power, it makes sense they would do everything in their power to do that.

THIS. Thank you, Romextly.
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:39 am

Romextly wrote:
Draos wrote:you can't dictate that get out of MY plotline.

Draos, look at it this way. This is the cold war. There are two major sides. WP and NATO. The US goals is to beat the WP and communism, while making NATO on top. If a nation that is not aligned to NATO, tries to take a area that gives them alot of money and power, it makes sense they would do everything in their power to do that.

No it doesn't because he's literally just doing to be childish and petty because I was going to invade Iran's part of Saudi Arabia.
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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:40 am

Draos wrote:
Romextly wrote:Draos, look at it this way. This is the cold war. There are two major sides. WP and NATO. The US goals is to beat the WP and communism, while making NATO on top. If a nation that is not aligned to NATO, tries to take a area that gives them alot of money and power, it makes sense they would do everything in their power to do that.

No it doesn't because he's literally just doing to be childish and petty because I was going to invade Iran's part of Saudi Arabia.

Yeah? Let me remind you that Saudi Arabia's Gulf Coast, where Iran's portion is, holds the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves in the world.
And you wonder why the United States of America is involved.
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:41 am

Sarderia wrote:
Draos wrote:No it doesn't because he's literally just doing to be childish and petty because I was going to invade Iran's part of Saudi Arabia.

Yeah? Let me remind you that Saudi Arabia's Gulf Coast, where Iran's portion is, holds the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves in the world.
And you wonder why the United States of America is involved.

STOP GETTING INVOLVED IT'S NOT YOUR PLACE IN THE RP.
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:42 am

Sarderia wrote:
Draos wrote:No it doesn't because he's literally just doing to be childish and petty because I was going to invade Iran's part of Saudi Arabia.

Yeah? Let me remind you that Saudi Arabia's Gulf Coast, where Iran's portion is, holds the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves in the world.
And you wonder why the United States of America is involved.

YOU CAN'T INVOLVE YOURSELF IN OTHER PEOPLE'S PLOTLINES UNLESS THEY ALLOW YOU THAT'S THAT. Regardless of IC motivations forcing yourself into people's plotlines without their consent breaks RP etiquette.
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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:43 am

Draos wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Yeah? Let me remind you that Saudi Arabia's Gulf Coast, where Iran's portion is, holds the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves in the world.
And you wonder why the United States of America is involved.

STOP GETTING INVOLVED IT'S NOT YOUR PLACE IN THE RP.

It's my place to declare the US has interests in the Middle East. It's my right as a player, as you have the same right.
Stop trolling.
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Sarderia wrote:Yeah? Let me remind you that Saudi Arabia's Gulf Coast, where Iran's portion is, holds the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves in the world.
And you wonder why the United States of America is involved.

YOU CAN'T INVOLVE YOURSELF IN OTHER PEOPLE'S PLOTLINES UNLESS THEY ALLOW YOU THAT'S THAT.

oh my God
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:45 am

Sarderia wrote:
Draos wrote:STOP GETTING INVOLVED IT'S NOT YOUR PLACE IN THE RP.

It's my place to declare the US has interests in the Middle East. It's my right as a player, as you have the same right.
Stop trolling.
Draos wrote:YOU CAN'T INVOLVE YOURSELF IN OTHER PEOPLE'S PLOTLINES UNLESS THEY ALLOW YOU THAT'S THAT.

oh my God

Dude you're literally the only one trolling because you still harbor IRL sympathy for your former nation and don't people to mess with it that's literally all and with your posts yesterday you inserted yourself into the plotline as an unwanted middle man. If I wanted you to take part I would have asked. but I didn't
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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:47 am

Draos wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Yeah? Let me remind you that Saudi Arabia's Gulf Coast, where Iran's portion is, holds the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves in the world.
And you wonder why the United States of America is involved.

YOU CAN'T INVOLVE YOURSELF IN OTHER PEOPLE'S PLOTLINES UNLESS THEY ALLOW YOU THAT'S THAT. Regardless of IC motivations forcing yourself into people's plotlines without their consent breaks RP etiquette.

According to this kind of logic, if Soviet Union wants to invade Alaska, the US can't do anything because "it's not the US' plotline" and the Soviets don't want the US player to defend Alaska since it "breaks their plotline."
Draos wrote:
Sarderia wrote:It's my place to declare the US has interests in the Middle East. It's my right as a player, as you have the same right.
Stop trolling.

oh my God

Dude you're literally the only one trolling because you still harbor IRL sympathy for your former nation and don't people to mess with it that's literally all and with your posts yesterday you inserted yourself into the plotline as an unwanted middle man.

...no? The US involved because one specific reason: oil. If I still harbor sympathies for my former nation, I wouldn't let Monsone claim Iraq and Northern Kuwait. Again, stop this kind of trolling.
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:50 am

Sarderia wrote:
Draos wrote:YOU CAN'T INVOLVE YOURSELF IN OTHER PEOPLE'S PLOTLINES UNLESS THEY ALLOW YOU THAT'S THAT. Regardless of IC motivations forcing yourself into people's plotlines without their consent breaks RP etiquette.

According to this kind of logic, if Soviet Union wants to invade Alaska, the US can't do anything because "it's not the US' plotline" and the Soviets don't want the US player to defend Alaska since it "breaks their plotline."
1.that's a complete and utter strawman what you're describing is a god mod situation that is no where even close because I'm not attacking your direct territory which you have a say in I'm attacking a NPC country that you have a Interest in but no control over therefore no say if I invade it and by putting yourself in the plotline without my consent you're forcing yourself into it.
Draos wrote:Dude you're literally the only one trolling because you still harbor IRL sympathy for your former nation and don't people to mess with it that's literally all and with your posts yesterday you inserted yourself into the plotline as an unwanted middle man.

...no? The US involved because one specific reason: oil. If I still harbor sympathies for my former nation, I wouldn't let Monsone claim Iraq and Northern Kuwait. Again, stop this kind of trolling.
Still can't get involved since it doesn't affect your Directly owned territory
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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:52 am

Draos wrote:
Sarderia wrote:According to this kind of logic, if Soviet Union wants to invade Alaska, the US can't do anything because "it's not the US' plotline" and the Soviets don't want the US player to defend Alaska since it "breaks their plotline."

...no? The US involved because one specific reason: oil. If I still harbor sympathies for my former nation, I wouldn't let Monsone claim Iraq and Northern Kuwait. Again, stop this kind of trolling.
Still can't get involved since it doesn't affect your Directly owned territory

Ok, I will not respond again to Draos' posts, because they has clearly demonstrated no capacity to respect me as a player, and is still trying to troll me even though I have made a specific request not to troll me again. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:57 am

Sarderia wrote:
Draos wrote: Still can't get involved since it doesn't affect your Directly owned territory

Ok, I will not respond again to Draos' posts, because they has clearly demonstrated no capacity to respect me as a player, and is still trying to troll me even though I have made a specific request not to troll me again. Thank you for your cooperation.

You're the only one who shows no respect to anyone else because if you don't get your way you throw a massive tantrum force yourself into other people's plotlines that don't directly involve your nation or territory List non-sense conditions to get them to back out add conditions after the fact when they already agreed to the original conditions (which makes a contract non-enforceable btw) then get mad when they don't accept and say people are trolling you when they call you out on a lot of the garbage you've been typing
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:03 am

Sarderia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Yes please. Give us nuclear reactor blueprints and we'll take off all tariffs on US trade.

That might be a thing the US would do. I will look forward for greater cooperation between DRA and US.

On further note, I think I will withdraw the US interest in joining OPEC and focus on NATO being an economic alliance (in addition to military pact).
Draos wrote:I'mma take Saudi and not agree to your post because it's god mod and therefore void.

1) True, I never RPed any negotiation. The US is basically declaring the whole Middle East under US protection unilaterally. Regardless of each NPC nations' position. Mess with the Middle East and you mess with the US.

2) How are you going to take control of Saudi Arabia without any military force?
Draos wrote:I'mma take Saudi and not agree to your post because it's god mod and therefore void.

Well then, if you insist, I would resort to level your cities to the ground.

Woah woqh woah why
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Postby Biotopia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:07 am

Arvenia wrote:
Biotopia wrote:
Don't forget the terms of the IFTA. Technically all external trade needs to be approved by the members, but that's just us right now and I trust you. I won't bring it up unless there's some specific need.

Also, @Hypercapital - I've tried telegramming you and pinging you ooc about the treaty. I also mentioned i'd be willing to do more to assist you

Hey, I sent a message to you in the IC. It is clear for us to conduct our meeting while we still can.


I've replied. Page 44 of the IC
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:07 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sarderia wrote:That might be a thing the US would do. I will look forward for greater cooperation between DRA and US.

On further note, I think I will withdraw the US interest in joining OPEC and focus on NATO being an economic alliance (in addition to military pact).

1) True, I never RPed any negotiation. The US is basically declaring the whole Middle East under US protection unilaterally. Regardless of each NPC nations' position. Mess with the Middle East and you mess with the US.

2) How are you going to take control of Saudi Arabia without any military force?

Well then, if you insist, I would resort to level your cities to the ground.

Woah woqh woah why

Because he unilaterally is saying I must agree to 3 terms he offered which were already kind of low to invade saudi arabia but then he added another to make it a joint puppet I'm not going to accept and I told him I would see any attempts at him trying to interfere as god modding and void he then said he'd bomb my cities when I didn't even want him as part of my plotline in the First place.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:13 am

Draos wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Woah woqh woah why

Because he unilaterally is saying I must agree to 3 terms he offered which were already kind of low to invade saudi arabia but then he added another to make it a joint puppet I'm not going to accept and I told him I would see any attempts at him trying to interfere as god modding and void he then said he'd bomb my cities when I didn't even want him as part of my plotline in the First place.

I meant "why are you withdrawing from OPEC?"
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Postby Romextly » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:17 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Draos wrote:Because he unilaterally is saying I must agree to 3 terms he offered which were already kind of low to invade saudi arabia but then he added another to make it a joint puppet I'm not going to accept and I told him I would see any attempts at him trying to interfere as god modding and void he then said he'd bomb my cities when I didn't even want him as part of my plotline in the First place.

I meant "why are you withdrawing from OPEC?"

he was never part of OPEC

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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:21 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Draos wrote:Because he unilaterally is saying I must agree to 3 terms he offered which were already kind of low to invade saudi arabia but then he added another to make it a joint puppet I'm not going to accept and I told him I would see any attempts at him trying to interfere as god modding and void he then said he'd bomb my cities when I didn't even want him as part of my plotline in the First place.

I meant "why are you withdrawing from OPEC?"

I don't want France (and other NATO nations) to backlash against the US for joining OPEC.

Here's a compromise; I am going to declare Venezuela independent under a US puppet government. Venezuela would then join the OPEC, but their foreign relations and defense matters are controlled by the US (sort of Denmark-Greenland situation).
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:26 am

Sarderia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I meant "why are you withdrawing from OPEC?"

I don't want France (and other NATO nations) to backlash against the US for joining OPEC.

Here's a compromise; I am going to declare Venezuela independent under a US puppet government. Venezuela would then join the OPEC, but their foreign relations and defense matters are controlled by the US (sort of Denmark-Greenland situation).

Sure why not.

Also, Scandinavia, we would love you in OPEC, please join.
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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:29 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sarderia wrote:I don't want France (and other NATO nations) to backlash against the US for joining OPEC.

Here's a compromise; I am going to declare Venezuela independent under a US puppet government. Venezuela would then join the OPEC, but their foreign relations and defense matters are controlled by the US (sort of Denmark-Greenland situation).

Sure why not.

Also, Scandinavia, we would love you in OPEC, please join.

Pick one; US or Scandinavia.

Also, who is the leader of OPEC now? Is it still Iran?
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:31 am

Sarderia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Sure why not.

Also, Scandinavia, we would love you in OPEC, please join.

Pick one; US or Scandinavia.

Also, who is the leader of OPEC now? Is it still Iran?

It's either the DRA or India, since nobody's playing Iran.

And look, there's nothing wrong with both of you being in OPEC, as long as you can be, if not militarily, ECONOMICALLY compatible.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Sarderia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:37 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Pick one; US or Scandinavia.

Also, who is the leader of OPEC now? Is it still Iran?

It's either the DRA or India, since nobody's playing Iran.

And look, there's nothing wrong with both of you being in OPEC, as long as you can be, if not militarily, ECONOMICALLY compatible.

I am okay with both being in OPEC, provided the Scandinavians agreed to 4 terms I gave.

Also, Draos' IC post is the prime example of godmodding; I consider it as void and null given the blatant attempt of godmodding.
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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:38 am

Sarderia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:It's either the DRA or India, since nobody's playing Iran.

And look, there's nothing wrong with both of you being in OPEC, as long as you can be, if not militarily, ECONOMICALLY compatible.

I am okay with both being in OPEC, provided the Scandinavians agreed to 4 terms I gave.

Also, Draos' IC post is the prime example of godmodding; I consider it as void and null given the blatant attempt of godmodding.

Says the one who god modded saying they bribed people to stay loyal to them WHEN THEY AREN'T EVEN PART OF THE PLOTLINE.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:39 am

Draos wrote:
Sarderia wrote:I am okay with both being in OPEC, provided the Scandinavians agreed to 4 terms I gave.

Also, Draos' IC post is the prime example of godmodding; I consider it as void and null given the blatant attempt of godmodding.

Says the one who god modded saying they bribed people to stay loyal to them WHEN THEY AREN'T EVEN PART OF THE PLOTLINE.

With all due respect, the US being a prick sticking its nose where it isn't wanted is probably the most realistic RP out there.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Draos » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:40 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Draos wrote:Says the one who god modded saying they bribed people to stay loyal to them WHEN THEY AREN'T EVEN PART OF THE PLOTLINE.

With all due respect, the US being a prick sticking its nose where it isn't wanted is probably the most realistic RP out there.

He's not involved in the plotline as the person came up with the idea I and only I decide who gets to participate in it.therefore his post regarding the matter don't count
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Postby Romextly » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:41 am

How about we get another player to act as the Sauds for right now. Comprimise

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