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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat May 16, 2020 7:09 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Now that I think of it I’ll take tanks for oil

We need neither of those.

You don't have any oil reserves.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sat May 16, 2020 7:12 pm

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Free Ward Marchers wrote:
yeah same were Australia isn't "anti western" were just anti British, and anti imperialism were allies with america

I hate to say it, but Britain is part of the West.

This will be a fun RP idea though; revenge of the colonised nations.

It does bring soul-searching on their part... "what if we ended up being the colonizers?"

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Postby Kargintina the Third » Sat May 16, 2020 7:13 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I hate to say it, but Britain is part of the West.

This will be a fun RP idea though; revenge of the colonised nations.

It does bring soul-searching on their part... "what if we ended up being the colonizers?"

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Postby TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Sat May 16, 2020 7:15 pm

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:15 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:We need neither of those.

You don't have any oil reserves.

Angola has more oil than Norway bruh
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:17 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I hate to say it, but Britain is part of the West.

This will be a fun RP idea though; revenge of the colonised nations.

It does bring soul-searching on their part... "what if we ended up being the colonizers?"

And honestly, I wanted to see white nationalists have a stroke when they read "African-occupied Spain" and "African-occupied Italy"
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Diarcesia » Sat May 16, 2020 7:24 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:It does bring soul-searching on their part... "what if we ended up being the colonizers?"

And honestly, I wanted to see white nationalists have a stroke when they read "African-occupied Spain" and "African-occupied Italy"

While I don't want to see a World War III, a trilateral Cold War is an interesting thought experiment.

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Postby The United States of Western Korea » Sat May 16, 2020 7:25 pm

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The United States of Western Korea wrote:Nation: The emu empire
Fictional or Real: semi-fictional (alternative history)
Head of state: George Pearce
Capital: Perth Australia
Government type: constitutional monarchy
GDP: 20 billion USD
Population:19.5 million
Location: Australia
History: George Pearce in the famous emu war decides to pull a Italy and switch sides. With his help he founds the emu empire and he becomes the king of the emus.
Faction:unaligned


Sigh...Australia is already owned by a nation. Sorry...

Nooooooooo

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:26 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:And honestly, I wanted to see white nationalists have a stroke when they read "African-occupied Spain" and "African-occupied Italy"

While I don't want to see a World War III, a trilateral Cold War is an interesting thought experiment.

The goal of the DRA IS World War III. We want to reconquer the African continent, and achieve our place in the world. Once we develop enough, increase our intelligence capabilities and put the foundation in place, we will take our place in the sun...
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:While I don't want to see a World War III, a trilateral Cold War is an interesting thought experiment.

The goal of the DRA IS World War III. We want to reconquer the African continent, and achieve our place in the world. Once we develop enough, increase our intelligence capabilities and put the foundation in place, we will take our place in the sun...

Lol bruh that ain't happening
Government Type: Militaristic Republic
Leader: President Alexander Jones
Prime Minister: Isabella Stuart-Jones
Secretary of Defense: Hitomi Izumi
Secretary of State: Eliza 'Vanny' Cortez
Time: 2023
Population: MT-450 million
Territory: All of North America, The Islands of the Caribbean and the Philippines

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:29 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:The goal of the DRA IS World War III. We want to reconquer the African continent, and achieve our place in the world. Once we develop enough, increase our intelligence capabilities and put the foundation in place, we will take our place in the sun...

Lol bruh that ain't happening

You want to see? I have the same population as the USA, boundless oil, bauxite, natural gas and iron, and hopefully soon an effective police force.

The reasons Africa is failing IRL are neocolonialism, corruption and conflict. If you end all three, Africa will become very prosperous.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:30 pm

We could ally with the Soviet Union, get some aid, some money...
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 7:31 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:We could ally with the Soviet Union, get some aid, some money...

if you ally with the soviet union Australia will refuse to help you
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:32 pm

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:We could ally with the Soviet Union, get some aid, some money...

if you ally with the soviet union Australia will refuse to help you

Only temporarily, of course. We're too weak to stand up to the West as we are right now...
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Diarcesia » Sat May 16, 2020 7:33 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:if you ally with the soviet union Australia will refuse to help you

Only temporarily, of course. We're too weak to stand up to the West as we are right now...

You can play them off to your advantage. They both want you on their side. It's really the corruption bit that bites you.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:33 pm

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:We could ally with the Soviet Union, get some aid, some money...

if you ally with the soviet union Australia will refuse to help you

Tell me, what's YOUR plan to stand up to the West? What's YOUR plan to win the Cold War?
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:34 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Only temporarily, of course. We're too weak to stand up to the West as we are right now...

You can play them off to your advantage. They both want you on their side. It's really the corruption bit that bites you.

Yep, of course. We can do that too.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Monsone » Sat May 16, 2020 7:34 pm

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American Pere Housh wrote:Lol bruh that ain't happening

You want to see? I have the same population as the USA, boundless oil, bauxite, natural gas and iron, and hopefully soon an effective police force.

The reasons Africa is failing IRL are neocolonialism, corruption and conflict. If you end all three, Africa will become very prosperous.


I think someone has underestimated the power of Napalm in jungle and forest terrain.

Also, there needs to be leasons each nation learns after a war. So I'm thinking that because of the war with Rashid, France is going to develop a lot more modern military equipment early on
For example the Panahrd EBR will enter service in 1959 instead of 1951, the SA50 tank gun will be created earlier on, and a new French tank will be built specifically with desert fighting and insurgent wars in mind.
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 7:35 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:if you ally with the soviet union Australia will refuse to help you

Tell me, what's YOUR plan to stand up to the West? What's YOUR plan to win the Cold War?

sally with all the nationalist/fascist/non-aligned nations
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 7:36 pm

Monsone wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:You want to see? I have the same population as the USA, boundless oil, bauxite, natural gas and iron, and hopefully soon an effective police force.

The reasons Africa is failing IRL are neocolonialism, corruption and conflict. If you end all three, Africa will become very prosperous.


I think someone has underestimated the power of Napalm in jungle and forest terrain.

Also, there needs to be leasons each nation learns after a war. So I'm thinking that because of the war with Rashid, France is going to develop a lot more modern military equipment early on
For example the Panahrd EBR will enter service in 1959 instead of 1951, the SA50 tank gun will be created earlier on, and a new French tank will be built specifically with desert fighting and insurgent wars in mind.


no
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:36 pm

Monsone wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:You want to see? I have the same population as the USA, boundless oil, bauxite, natural gas and iron, and hopefully soon an effective police force.

The reasons Africa is failing IRL are neocolonialism, corruption and conflict. If you end all three, Africa will become very prosperous.


I think someone has underestimated the power of Napalm in jungle and forest terrain.

Also, there needs to be leasons each nation learns after a war. So I'm thinking that because of the war with Rashid, France is going to develop a lot more modern military equipment early on
For example the Panahrd EBR will enter service in 1959 instead of 1951, the SA50 tank gun will be created earlier on, and a new French tank will be built specifically with desert fighting and insurgent wars in mind.

Who won in Vietnam?

Now imagine you were in a country ten times the size, with an already half-functioning industrial base and a population the same size as yours.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat May 16, 2020 7:37 pm

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Tell me, what's YOUR plan to stand up to the West? What's YOUR plan to win the Cold War?

sally with all the nationalist/fascist/non-aligned nations

Which nations are those?
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Diarcesia » Sat May 16, 2020 7:39 pm

Monsone wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:You want to see? I have the same population as the USA, boundless oil, bauxite, natural gas and iron, and hopefully soon an effective police force.

The reasons Africa is failing IRL are neocolonialism, corruption and conflict. If you end all three, Africa will become very prosperous.


I think someone has underestimated the power of Napalm in jungle and forest terrain.

Also, there needs to be leasons each nation learns after a war. So I'm thinking that because of the war with Rashid, France is going to develop a lot more modern military equipment early on
For example the Panahrd EBR will enter service in 1959 instead of 1951, the SA50 tank gun will be created earlier on, and a new French tank will be built specifically with desert fighting and insurgent wars in mind.

Will it also mean an earlier AMX tank? If it is, I wonder if Hongma would buy some of them.

What I'm thinking is: they'll reestablish economic contact with Diarcesia (if OP allows, still not involved in the cold war) and pave the way for the latter to develop its Apsychia MBT in the 80s.

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 7:40 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:sally with all the nationalist/fascist/non-aligned nations

Which nations are those?


india, you, Madagascar, the middle east and a few more im forgetting
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sat May 16, 2020 7:42 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Monsone wrote:
I think someone has underestimated the power of Napalm in jungle and forest terrain.

Also, there needs to be leasons each nation learns after a war. So I'm thinking that because of the war with Rashid, France is going to develop a lot more modern military equipment early on
For example the Panahrd EBR will enter service in 1959 instead of 1951, the SA50 tank gun will be created earlier on, and a new French tank will be built specifically with desert fighting and insurgent wars in mind.

Will it also mean an earlier AMX tank? If it is, I wonder if Hongma would buy some of them.

What I'm thinking is: they'll reestablish economic contact with Diarcesia (if OP allows, still not involved in the cold war) and pave the way for the latter to develop its Apsychia MBT in the 80s.


All equiqment and weapons can only be created the date they were created in irl time no earlier (i'll put this in the roles)
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