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Spiritual Republic of Caryton wrote:"yeah despite not claiming the territories in my applications and being mindful of what i have and making a free space on the map, i'll deny someone taking that free land and even explaining how NPC's would be kicked out just because it would have been given to those nations that didn't do their research otherwise"

No shade and no offense, but that seems quirky.


But Britain did apply for the territories, and he's a player. Yeah, I messed up with the French and American part (You still have to talk with America about Hawaii though), so you can have the stuff they didn't apply for. Sorry about that, doing the best I can to make everyone happy.
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Postby Tysoania » Thu May 07, 2020 3:13 pm

What's the rule on nations that have been abandoned? For example, the Nazis that were hiding out on a Norwegian island. They haven't been around for a while, so when would they be available for a new applicant to use?
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 3:14 pm

The Korea-America-Philippines thing annoys me, 'cause, politicians do indeed make gaffes. They're not always going to be accurate and correct about everything 100% of the time.

Also, maybe the America player should've left the "Israel" thing in there, since gaffes and Freudian slips exist.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 3:16 pm

Tysoania wrote:What's the rule on nations that have been abandoned? For example, the Nazis that were hiding out on a Norwegian island. They haven't been around for a while, so when would they be available for a new applicant to use?


And there's no Monaco or Portugal player, so would I have to NPC them, or would the Canada player do the NPCing?
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Postby Tranzoria » Thu May 07, 2020 3:20 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Tysoania wrote:What's the rule on nations that have been abandoned? For example, the Nazis that were hiding out on a Norwegian island. They haven't been around for a while, so when would they be available for a new applicant to use?


And there's no Monaco or Portugal player, so would I have to NPC them, or would the Canada player do the NPCing?


Sorry, I though Monaco was part of Polario. Let's say it's French.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 3:22 pm

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Hypercapital wrote:
And there's no Monaco or Portugal player, so would I have to NPC them, or would the Canada player do the NPCing?


Sorry, I though Monaco was part of Polario. Let's say it's French.


:lol:

Just a reminder; Spain, Andorra, Vatican, and San Marino.

Might-as-well take up that empty space, since everyone forgets microstates and micronations.
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu May 07, 2020 3:39 pm

Hypercapital wrote:Also, there's no Portugal player.

Polaria and I are probably the closest to a Portugal player. I'll probably make a nudge or two to it depending on how the worldbuilding plays out. They let go of Timor, so I think Macau is either independent or PRC.

Tysoania wrote:What's the rule on nations that have been abandoned? For example, the Nazis that were hiding out on a Norwegian island. They haven't been around for a while, so when would they be available for a new applicant to use?

Has he abandoned the RP? Smaller nations and diplomatically insular countries can get away with being geopolitically inactive for some time.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 3:44 pm

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Hypercapital wrote:Also, there's no Portugal player.

Polaria and I are probably the closest to a Portugal player. I'll probably make a nudge or two to it depending on how the worldbuilding plays out. They let go of Timor, so I think Macau is either independent or PRC.


I mean, what'd happen to Angola and all of Portugal's other colonies? Would/could I claim them? I mean, they're still relevant. The Dutch, Luxembourgish and Belgians aren't really relevant (Dutch lost their colonies, but they're probably still playable)
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 3:47 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:Also, there's no Portugal player.

Polaria and I are probably the closest to a Portugal player. I'll probably make a nudge or two to it depending on how the worldbuilding plays out. They let go of Timor, so I think Macau is either independent or PRC.

Tysoania wrote:What's the rule on nations that have been abandoned? For example, the Nazis that were hiding out on a Norwegian island. They haven't been around for a while, so when would they be available for a new applicant to use?

Has he abandoned the RP? Smaller nations and diplomatically insular countries can get away with being geopolitically inactive for some time.


True that, and retroactively, Polaria was geopolitically inactive, but like I said IC-ly, news travels slow.

No one made any nudges to Spain (except France taking all of Morocco.)
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 3:52 pm

Spain and Portugal were still relevant, after all, they were the last two fascist countries left (Spain-under-Franco, and Estado Novo)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estado_Novo_%28Portugal%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain

Also, I said Spain is boring, it's true. They haven't done anything of note after colonizing stuff, and also having a civil war with Spanish Anarchism/CNT-FAI (besides have economical issues, and also Catalonia)

Same goes for Portugal. All they ever did that's relevant was exploration, colonization, and turn Fascist (besides Soccer/Futbol, but that's basically it)
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Postby Monsone » Thu May 07, 2020 4:01 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Polaria and I are probably the closest to a Portugal player. I'll probably make a nudge or two to it depending on how the worldbuilding plays out. They let go of Timor, so I think Macau is either independent or PRC.


Has he abandoned the RP? Smaller nations and diplomatically insular countries can get away with being geopolitically inactive for some time.


True that, and retroactively, Polaria was geopolitically inactive, but like I said IC-ly, news travels slow.

No one made any nudges to Spain (except France taking all of Morocco.)


Well, Morocco was fully French for some time, and I didn't take Ceuta or Melilla. Also, I got Monaco? Sweet.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:03 pm

Monsone wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
True that, and retroactively, Polaria was geopolitically inactive, but like I said IC-ly, news travels slow.

No one made any nudges to Spain (except France taking all of Morocco.)


Well, Morocco was fully French for some time, and I didn't take Ceuta or Melilla. Also, I got Monaco? Sweet.


True. I hope a Portugal player does come along, though. It'd be a shame if the only Fascist country isn't even a country (and technically-speaking, Nazism and Fascism are two different ideologies)
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu May 07, 2020 4:07 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Monsone wrote:
Well, Morocco was fully French for some time, and I didn't take Ceuta or Melilla. Also, I got Monaco? Sweet.


True. I hope a Portugal player does come along, though. It'd be a shame if the only Fascist country isn't even a country (and technically-speaking, Nazism and Fascism are two different ideologies)


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Postby Tysoania » Thu May 07, 2020 4:09 pm

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True. I hope a Portugal player does come along, though. It'd be a shame if the only Fascist country isn't even a country (and technically-speaking, Nazism and Fascism are two different ideologies)


This building says yes

That's fine, I wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway.

BTW, nice touch with the image credit.
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu May 07, 2020 4:11 pm

Tysoania wrote:

That's fine, I wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway.

BTW, nice touch with the image credit.

Thanks :)

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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:13 pm

Note: Technocracy, Longism, and other ideologies exist. Just had to remind people, since everyone's just doing Democratic-Republicanism or Communist-Socialism, and I'd like to see more flair/spice. (which is why I'm happy there's a Caliphate and a Pirate Republic IC-ly)
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:16 pm

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That's fine, I wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway.

BTW, nice touch with the image credit.


Weird, it reminds me of 1984. Also, it's weird how it says "SI," and Si is "yes" in espagnol. ("Spanish" in French)
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Postby Tysoania » Thu May 07, 2020 4:18 pm

Hypercapital wrote:Note: Technocracy, Longism, and other ideologies exist. Just had to remind people, since everyone's just doing Democratic-Republicanism or Communist-Socialism, and I'd like to see more flair/spice. (which is why I'm happy there's a Caliphate and a Pirate Republic IC-ly)

Generally speaking, any nation that wants allies has to join up with one of the three main factions (Commies, capitalists, and non-aligned) or risk being curbstomped by their neighbours.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:25 pm

Tysoania wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:Note: Technocracy, Longism, and other ideologies exist. Just had to remind people, since everyone's just doing Democratic-Republicanism or Communist-Socialism, and I'd like to see more flair/spice. (which is why I'm happy there's a Caliphate and a Pirate Republic IC-ly)

Generally speaking, any nation that wants allies has to join up with one of the three main factions (Commies, capitalists, and non-aligned) or risk being curbstomped by their neighbours.


I'm pretty sure some of those weird/obscure 1910s-and-Great Depression ideologies would/could fit in those three categories.

    Technocracy (Capitalist/Western/NATO, since Technocracy and Communist-Socialism would ideologically be at-odds)
    Fascism (Capitalist or Nonaligned/Neutral)
    NatSoc/Nazism (Technically socialist, though after WWII, I think no one'd friend/ally a NatSoc nation.)
    Longism (Capitalist)
    Other forms of Autocracy/dictatorial (Capitalist, note that the US did back dictatorships, and also made some)
    Plutocracy (Automatically Capitalist)

    and so on, you get the point.

Note: Having a Command economy/Autarky would automatically land you in the "Capitalist/Western/NATO" faction/sphere-of-influence moi thinks.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:28 pm

Hypercapital wrote:The Korea-America-Philippines thing annoys me, 'cause, politicians do indeed make gaffes. They're not always going to be accurate and correct about everything 100% of the time.

Also, maybe the America player should've left the "Israel" thing in there, since gaffes and Freudian slips exist.


Which is why, on second thought, I'm not making a post responding to it. Also, not saying it's a gaffe would probably be a PR nightmare for Polaria, so I'm gonna nope out of that scenario.
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Postby Tysoania » Thu May 07, 2020 4:44 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Tysoania wrote:Generally speaking, any nation that wants allies has to join up with one of the three main factions (Commies, capitalists, and non-aligned) or risk being curbstomped by their neighbours.


I'm pretty sure some of those weird/obscure 1910s-and-Great Depression ideologies would/could fit in those three categories.

    Technocracy (Capitalist/Western/NATO, since Technocracy and Communist-Socialism would ideologically be at-odds)
    Fascism (Capitalist or Nonaligned/Neutral)
    NatSoc/Nazism (Technically socialist, though after WWII, I think no one'd friend/ally a NatSoc nation.)
    Longism (Capitalist)
    Other forms of Autocracy/dictatorial (Capitalist, note that the US did back dictatorships, and also made some)
    Plutocracy (Automatically Capitalist)

    and so on, you get the point.

Note: Having a Command economy/Autarky would automatically land you in the "Capitalist/Western/NATO" faction/sphere-of-influence moi thinks.

Sorry, I was thinking from the Soviet point of view, in that Stalin was absolutely opposed to anything short of a complete embrace of command economies (sorry, Titoists).

However, I think having a command economy wouldn't automatically include you in the capitalist sphere. If anything, you'd be more likely to get kicked out of it, as a command economy would be a more Soviet-oriented move.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:46 pm

Tysoania wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
I'm pretty sure some of those weird/obscure 1910s-and-Great Depression ideologies would/could fit in those three categories.

    Technocracy (Capitalist/Western/NATO, since Technocracy and Communist-Socialism would ideologically be at-odds)
    Fascism (Capitalist or Nonaligned/Neutral)
    NatSoc/Nazism (Technically socialist, though after WWII, I think no one'd friend/ally a NatSoc nation.)
    Longism (Capitalist)
    Other forms of Autocracy/dictatorial (Capitalist, note that the US did back dictatorships, and also made some)
    Plutocracy (Automatically Capitalist)

    and so on, you get the point.

Note: Having a Command economy/Autarky would automatically land you in the "Capitalist/Western/NATO" faction/sphere-of-influence moi thinks.

Sorry, I was thinking from the Soviet point of view, in that Stalin was absolutely opposed to anything short of a complete embrace of command economies (sorry, Titoists).

However, I think having a command economy wouldn't automatically include you in the capitalist sphere. If anything, you'd be more likely to get kicked out of it, as a command economy would be a more Soviet-oriented move.


That kinda makes sense.
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Postby Tranzoria » Thu May 07, 2020 4:50 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Tysoania wrote:Sorry, I was thinking from the Soviet point of view, in that Stalin was absolutely opposed to anything short of a complete embrace of command economies (sorry, Titoists).

However, I think having a command economy wouldn't automatically include you in the capitalist sphere. If anything, you'd be more likely to get kicked out of it, as a command economy would be a more Soviet-oriented move.


That kinda makes sense.


Then again, a part of Communism is like Capitalism but without the politics. Most dictators come to power after promising and upgrading the economies of their nations.
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Postby Tysoania » Thu May 07, 2020 4:53 pm

Tranzoria wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
That kinda makes sense.


Then again, a part of Communism is like Capitalism but without the politics. Most dictators come to power after promising and upgrading the economies of their nations.

At this point, Communism and capitalism seem to mostly be two terms used for relatively arbitrary groups. The capitalists have both near-anarchy and command economies in their ranks, while the Communists have pretty open economies in some of their members.
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Thu May 07, 2020 4:54 pm

Tranzoria wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
That kinda makes sense.


Then again, a part of Communism is like Capitalism but without the politics. Most dictators come to power after promising and upgrading the economies of their nations.


Didn't the Third Reich/"Aryan Empire" have a command economy/autarky? It's weird imagining they were straight-up normal Capitalist. Who'd want to trade w/ that?
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