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Should we shift the timescale during the Congressional Recess (July-September 2019)

Poll ended at Mon May 25, 2020 9:34 am

1. Yes, I want to shift the timescale to be 2 IC weeks per 1 OOC Week
21
78%
2. No, I want to keep the timescale as 1 IC week per 1 OOC week
6
22%
 
Total votes : 27

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Agarntrop
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:58 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:AfAm's are SocCons?. Really? In which aspect?


Conservative Christianity. Coretta Scott King, for example, found herself estranged from many of her former civil rights colleagues when she came out for LGBT rights.

well, atang is quite socially conservative on some issues not lgbt though, but thats mainly because of the ortho jews in nis seat.

tbh atang is probably in the red, just not abrasive about it like porter.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:59 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Looking at the VSG study (which parallels this with whether they voted for Trump or Clinton in 2016), it can be safely assumed that the demographic is largely white working-class, with black and Hispanic members on the other side. Even if the 6% of people within the quadrant that voted Clinton are all minority (which is doubtful, to say the least), there's still a whopping chunk of Obama ---> Trump voters right there.

Forget about fucking “quadrants” that is not how campaigns are run
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Kargintina the Third
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Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:00 pm

Hello.

I’m still here, but I wasn’t really passionate about the character I was apping for last thread. Is it possible I could switch?
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Meelducan
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Postby Meelducan » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:00 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Hello.

I’m still here, but I wasn’t really passionate about the character I was apping for last thread. Is it possible I could switch?

Sure!
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Agarntrop
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:00 pm

Kargintina the Third wrote:Hello.

I’m still here, but I wasn’t really passionate about the character I was apping for last thread. Is it possible I could switch?

i think so
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:01 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Looking at the VSG study (which parallels this with whether they voted for Trump or Clinton in 2016), it can be safely assumed that the demographic is largely white working-class, with black and Hispanic members on the other side. Even if the 6% of people within the quadrant that voted Clinton are all minority (which is doubtful, to say the least), there's still a whopping chunk of Obama ---> Trump voters right there.

Forget about fucking “quadrants” that is not how campaigns are run

I looked at the issues juxtaposed with income and 2016 vote, and I think I've made my conclusion off that.
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Meelducan
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Postby Meelducan » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:02 pm

Come on Diane, cripple her hand.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:02 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Forget about fucking “quadrants” that is not how campaigns are run

I looked at the issues juxtaposed with income and 2016 vote, and I think I've made my conclusion off that.

??
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Gordano and Lysandus
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:03 pm

If Paulson, as a libertarian, gives arthritic Brookley some marijuana, is that shake 'n' bake?
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:03 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I looked at the issues juxtaposed with income and 2016 vote, and I think I've made my conclusion off that.

??

Same study, fig 14.

Assuming that Trump supporters are overwhelmingly white (not really a big leap of logic there), the graph shows that low-income Trump voters (therefore a decent chunk of the white working-class) are in said populist/authoritarian area of the compass.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Jovuistan
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Founded: May 10, 2016
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Postby Jovuistan » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:04 pm

Main Nation Ministry wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
You know, it's a REAL achievement to become someone Richardson hates more than Prendergast, lol

It's already a real achievement to be someone hated in the whole RP.

Peter Amaras type beat.
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Main Nation Ministry
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Postby Main Nation Ministry » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:04 pm

Jovuistan wrote:
Main Nation Ministry wrote:It's already a real achievement to be someone hated in the whole RP.

Peter Amaras type beat.

Or O'Realy or Williams.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:05 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:??

Same study, fig 14.

Assuming that Trump supporters are overwhelmingly white (not really a big leap of logic there), the graph shows that low-income Trump voters (therefore a decent chunk of the white working-class) are in said populist/authoritarian area of the compass.

I swear it’s like trying to give advice to a brick wall
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Jovuistan
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Postby Jovuistan » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:05 pm

Main Nation Ministry wrote:
Jovuistan wrote:Peter Amaras type beat.

Or O'Realy or Williams.

Or Noble!
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:07 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Same study, fig 14.
Assuming that Trump supporters are overwhelmingly white (not really a big leap of logic there), the graph shows that low-income Trump voters (therefore a decent chunk of the white working-class) are in said populist/authoritarian area of the compass.

I swear it’s like trying to give advice to a brick wall

I'm looking at the demographics and the issues here.

Also, the study plots each respondent on the compass, hence my conclusions. I'm working off data. Anyway, I think that's all. Need to write the phone call session now.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Sanabel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:08 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I swear it’s like trying to give advice to a brick wall

I'm looking at the demographics and the issues here.

Also, the study plots each respondent on the compass, hence my conclusions. I'm working off data. Anyway, I think that's all. Need to write the phone call session now.

I’m not disputing the data, just your reading of the data
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
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Greater Arab State
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Postby Greater Arab State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:09 pm

Jovuistan wrote:
Main Nation Ministry wrote:Or O'Realy or Williams.

Or Noble!

Or Kramer.
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:10 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I'm looking at the demographics and the issues here.

Also, the study plots each respondent on the compass, hence my conclusions. I'm working off data. Anyway, I think that's all. Need to write the phone call session now.

I’m not disputing the data, just your reading of the data

Alright. Look at figure 14 (I'm assuming you have the study open, if not, it's here: https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publica ... arties-now), where it compares political positions along with income and party affiliation. What do you think?
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:13 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I’m not disputing the data, just your reading of the data

Alright. Look at figure 14 (I'm assuming you have the study open, if not, it's here: https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publica ... arties-now), where it compares political positions along with income and party affiliation. What do you think?

Again, I’m not disputing the data, just the idea that all of these people fit neatly within a box on the political compass, and will immediately go to Porter because he too fits within said box
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Main Nation Ministry
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Postby Main Nation Ministry » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:13 pm

Greater Arab State wrote:
Jovuistan wrote:Or Noble!

Or Kramer.

Or probably Schlang.
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My overall account that I use for P2TM and even for international roleplaying! MNM is a mysterious and extremely dangerous dictatorship filled with supernatural oddities, demons, militarized soldiers everywhere, and a misanthropic nihilistic dictator who doesn't give a damn. It's basically if the SCP Foundation got mixed with 1984.

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:15 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Alright. Look at figure 14 (I'm assuming you have the study open, if not, it's here: https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publica ... arties-now), where it compares political positions along with income and party affiliation. What do you think?

Again, I’m not disputing the data, just the idea that all of these people fit neatly within a box on the political compass, and will immediately go to Porter because he too fits within said box

I'm not saying that they'll immediately go to him. I'm saying that they're the best to target, because they already agree with him on the issues.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:17 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Again, I’m not disputing the data, just the idea that all of these people fit neatly within a box on the political compass, and will immediately go to Porter because he too fits within said box

I'm not saying that they'll immediately go to him. I'm saying that they're the best to target, because they already agree with him on the issues.

Many of them could potentially go to him, but there is more at play here, such as religion, regional/state identity, race, etc.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Gordano and Lysandus
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:17 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Again, I’m not disputing the data, just the idea that all of these people fit neatly within a box on the political compass, and will immediately go to Porter because he too fits within said box

I'm not saying that they'll immediately go to him. I'm saying that they're the best to target, because they already agree with him on the issues.


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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:21 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I'm not saying that they'll immediately go to him. I'm saying that they're the best to target, because they already agree with him on the issues.

Many of them could potentially go to him, but there is more at play here, such as religion, regional/state identity, race, etc.

Oh, of course, I'm not saying ALL of them will go to him. I understand many are Hispanic, black, Muslim...I'm just looking at the ones that already voted Trump in 2016, meaning that the vast majority of them will be white Christians.

Sorry for the confusion.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:22 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I'm not saying that they'll immediately go to him. I'm saying that they're the best to target, because they already agree with him on the issues.


Image

My communication skills are literally 0 lol

I bet you it came off as "people vote for the person closest on the political spectrum to them", which makes just enough sense that someone could believe it...just about.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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