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Puertollano
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Postby Puertollano » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:53 pm

"This is all untrue, Mr Speaker. The honourable Member does not know if Comrade Kim Jong-un is dead. Official reports from the DPRK assure us that he is still alive and well."
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Postby Van Hool Islands » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:01 pm

"While the situation is uncertain, I welcome the passing of the tyrant Kim and I hope we eventually see a day where every dictatorial tyrant suffers a similar fate. Be it death by a botched surgery, an assassination, or a transfer of power, the less dictators we have on this planet the better we are. God speed to President Moon of the only legitimate Korean state, and god speed to all our neighbours in what might become a trying time for our region. We can't let tyranny win. Lest we forget the mistakes our country made under the dictator De Wit. We can not let the same tyrants that run China and North Korea take hold in Banduria."
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:05 pm

Puertollano wrote:"This is all untrue, Mr Speaker. The honourable Member does not know if Comrade Kim Jong-un is dead. Official reports from the DPRK assure us that he is still alive and well."

"Meneer de Spreker, een lid van het banduriaanse parlement stond letterlijk op zijn stoel en beschreef Kim Jong-Un als zijn kameraad. Let op mijn woorden - zodra we een fatsoenlijke regering krijgen, betalen we voor een vlucht voor hem naar Noord-Korea, dan kan hij zien hoe het is en zijn gedachten opnieuw evalueren."

(Eng: Mister Speaker, a member of the bandurian parliament literally stood in his chair and described Kim Jong-Un as his comrade. Watch my words - once we get a decent government, we pay for a flight for him to North Korea, he can see what it is like and re-evaluate his thoughts.)
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Postby Ikania » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:39 pm

"Order... while I will not lay down any smacks or smathers for the time being, I would remind members to be very cautious with rumours and hearsay, lest an honourable member break parliamentary convention and accuse another of lying. The discussion may carry on, however.

While we are in the process of selecting deputies, we are also still formalizing the submission process for bills. For now, I would ask that any draft legislation that has reached the requisite sponsors be submitted directly to my office (OOC: Telegram me). As there is currently no legislation I am aware of which has reached that mark, I will allow for open discussion at the present moment. I will introduce Parliamentary codes of conduct soon to formalize our standards in this reverent body."
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Postby The Hindustani State » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:12 pm

"Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate you and wish Lord Krishna always be with you as you serve as the first Tamil speaker of this country. This not only represents a step forward for Tamils and Hindus in our country, but all minorities as a whole. We have now made a massive move forward in progress, and this esteemed parliament has rejected the subversive ideologies of Maoism and its kin.

As an MP of the Tamil People’s Party, and now with a speaker from our party, I would like to begin a push for Tamil to be formally recognized as a national language, and for Hinduism to be recognized as one of the country’s religions. Far too long have our people been underrepresented in the governing body of this country, but now with record number of Tamils in parliament, it is my honor to begin this movement for our people."
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:16 pm

MP Aditya Sriraam, a Tamil from the UCP, took his seat at this parliamentary session, now that the first Tamil had been elected speaker.

The Hindustani State wrote:"Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate you and wish Lord Krishna always be with you as you serve as the first Tamil speaker of this country. This not only represents a step forward for Tamils and Hindus in our country, but all minorities as a whole. We have now made a massive move forward in progress, and this esteemed parliament has rejected the subversive ideologies of Maoism and its kin.

As an MP of the Tamil People’s Party, and now with a speaker from our party, I would like to begin a push for Tamil to be formally recognized as a national language, and for Hinduism to be recognized as one of the country’s religions. Far too long have our people been underrepresented in the governing body of this country, but now with record number of Tamils in parliament, it is my honor to begin this movement for our people."

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Postby Sarderia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:11 pm

Member of Parliament Jakob van der Hegel rose from his seat. "Mr. Speaker, firstly I would like to extent my sincere congratulations upon your election as Speaker of the House. Truly, a strong leadership is needed to bring the members of our honoured Parliament together, working for the best interests of Bandurians. I do hope that your election would bring about an era of more unity and inclusiveness, especially regarding minority populations, such as Tamils and Europeans."

"Secondly, I would like to say as my colleague Mr. Sri pointed out, a member of Parliament has explicitly bestowed North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un with the title "comrade". While I did not want to say anything about the news of Kim's well-being, as it has been largely just rumours fanned out by media, I objected to the use of term "comrade" by Mr. Lao-Tzu Lu. Anyone in their right mind would not support a regime that has disregarded human rights numerous times - much less calling a leader of such regime "comrade". This is embarassing and inappropriate, and in my opinion a treason. You should not be calling leaders of other countries like that, either communist, socialist, or democratic, whatever, Moreover, Banduria has experienced a period of dictatorship by De Wit, which is frankly, disastrous years to the Bandurian citizens. Where is your nationalism?"
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:46 pm

Sarderia wrote:Member of Parliament Jakob van der Hegel rose from his seat. "Mr. Speaker, firstly I would like to extent my sincere congratulations upon your election as Speaker of the House. Truly, a strong leadership is needed to bring the members of our honoured Parliament together, working for the best interests of Bandurians. I do hope that your election would bring about an era of more unity and inclusiveness, especially regarding minority populations, such as Tamils and Europeans."

"Secondly, I would like to say as my colleague Mr. Sri pointed out, a member of Parliament has explicitly bestowed North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un with the title "comrade". While I did not want to say anything about the news of Kim's well-being, as it has been largely just rumours fanned out by media, I objected to the use of term "comrade" by Mr. Lao-Tzu Lu. Anyone in their right mind would not support a regime that has disregarded human rights numerous times - much less calling a leader of such regime "comrade". This is embarassing and inappropriate, and in my opinion a treason. You should not be calling leaders of other countries like that, either communist, socialist, or democratic, whatever, Moreover, Banduria has experienced a period of dictatorship by De Wit, which is frankly, disastrous years to the Bandurian citizens. Where is your nationalism?"

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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 pm

MP Peng Rong rose to speak.

"I agree with the honorable van der Hegel in his characterization of the reign of terror invoked in North Korea, inflicted upon the people of the North Korean Peninsula in the name of Communism, Socialism, and secularism. A truly disgraceful government and now that their dictator may be near the end of his reign only reinforces the belief that these specters of evil will always end and fall. That democratic, capitalist, nationalist, and rich culture will always prevail no matter the attempts to sequester and stomp them out. And while I welcome the new Speaker, I would remind everyone the conservation of Banduri culture is paramount especially as our own country's elites seems eager to turn away from our culture to the same secular communists as in North Korea. Let us remain steadfast in invoking our Banduri cultural heritage, our Banduri sense of self, and most importantly, in invoking that this is our Banduri for true Banduris.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:48 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:MP Peng Rong rose to speak.

"I agree with the honorable van der Hegel in his characterization of the reign of terror invoked in North Korea, inflicted upon the people of the North Korean Peninsula in the name of Communism, Socialism, and secularism. A truly disgraceful government and now that their dictator may be near the end of his reign only reinforces the belief that these specters of evil will always end and fall. That democratic, capitalist, nationalist, and rich culture will always prevail no matter the attempts to sequester and stomp them out. And while I welcome the new Speaker, I would remind everyone the conservation of Banduri culture is paramount especially as our own country's elites seems eager to turn away from our culture to the same secular communists as in North Korea. Let us remain steadfast in invoking our Banduri cultural heritage, our Banduri sense of self, and most importantly, in invoking that this is our Banduri for true Banduris.

"Hoor hoor"
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Postby Inhorto » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:56 pm

"Mr. Speaker," Yu began, "I cannot help but agree with what my honorable colleagues have been saying. To call a dictator, a murderer, a totalitarian, a comrade of all words is does not befit the stature of the office that the Honorable Member holds, nor does it benefit the dignity of the Honorable Member's person. Instead of division and discord, let us stand for democracy and the self-determination of all peoples."
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Postby Puertollano » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:44 pm

Sarderia wrote:Member of Parliament Jakob van der Hegel rose from his seat. "Mr. Speaker, firstly I would like to extent my sincere congratulations upon your election as Speaker of the House. Truly, a strong leadership is needed to bring the members of our honoured Parliament together, working for the best interests of Bandurians. I do hope that your election would bring about an era of more unity and inclusiveness, especially regarding minority populations, such as Tamils and Europeans."

"Secondly, I would like to say as my colleague Mr. Sri pointed out, a member of Parliament has explicitly bestowed North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un with the title "comrade". While I did not want to say anything about the news of Kim's well-being, as it has been largely just rumours fanned out by media, I objected to the use of term "comrade" by Mr. Lao-Tzu Lu. Anyone in their right mind would not support a regime that has disregarded human rights numerous times - much less calling a leader of such regime "comrade". This is embarassing and inappropriate, and in my opinion a treason. You should not be calling leaders of other countries like that, either communist, socialist, or democratic, whatever, Moreover, Banduria has experienced a period of dictatorship by De Wit, which is frankly, disastrous years to the Bandurian citizens. Where is your nationalism?"


"Objection, Mr Speaker. The Member opposite did not address me with my proper title," Mr Lu said.
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Postby Martune » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:49 pm

Puertollano wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Member of Parliament Jakob van der Hegel rose from his seat. "Mr. Speaker, firstly I would like to extent my sincere congratulations upon your election as Speaker of the House. Truly, a strong leadership is needed to bring the members of our honoured Parliament together, working for the best interests of Bandurians. I do hope that your election would bring about an era of more unity and inclusiveness, especially regarding minority populations, such as Tamils and Europeans."

"Secondly, I would like to say as my colleague Mr. Sri pointed out, a member of Parliament has explicitly bestowed North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un with the title "comrade". While I did not want to say anything about the news of Kim's well-being, as it has been largely just rumours fanned out by media, I objected to the use of term "comrade" by Mr. Lao-Tzu Lu. Anyone in their right mind would not support a regime that has disregarded human rights numerous times - much less calling a leader of such regime "comrade". This is embarassing and inappropriate, and in my opinion a treason. You should not be calling leaders of other countries like that, either communist, socialist, or democratic, whatever, Moreover, Banduria has experienced a period of dictatorship by De Wit, which is frankly, disastrous years to the Bandurian citizens. Where is your nationalism?"

"Objection, Mr Speaker. The Member opposite did not address me with my proper title," Mr Lu said.

“That would be a Point of Order, not an objection. This isn’t court.”
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:24 pm

Puertollano wrote:
Sarderia wrote:Member of Parliament Jakob van der Hegel rose from his seat. "Mr. Speaker, firstly I would like to extent my sincere congratulations upon your election as Speaker of the House. Truly, a strong leadership is needed to bring the members of our honoured Parliament together, working for the best interests of Bandurians. I do hope that your election would bring about an era of more unity and inclusiveness, especially regarding minority populations, such as Tamils and Europeans."

"Secondly, I would like to say as my colleague Mr. Sri pointed out, a member of Parliament has explicitly bestowed North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un with the title "comrade". While I did not want to say anything about the news of Kim's well-being, as it has been largely just rumours fanned out by media, I objected to the use of term "comrade" by Mr. Lao-Tzu Lu. Anyone in their right mind would not support a regime that has disregarded human rights numerous times - much less calling a leader of such regime "comrade". This is embarassing and inappropriate, and in my opinion a treason. You should not be calling leaders of other countries like that, either communist, socialist, or democratic, whatever, Moreover, Banduria has experienced a period of dictatorship by De Wit, which is frankly, disastrous years to the Bandurian citizens. Where is your nationalism?"


"Objection, Mr Speaker. The Member opposite did not address me with my proper title," Mr Lu said.

"If the Honorable Member cares so much about being addressed properly, perhaps we should all call him what he is, a communist and comrade to the North Korean dictator. Being bothered by a point of order while ignoring your comments made in poor taste shows your priorities. So perhaps in the future the Honorable Member will be more aware when he asks people to address him by his proper title. As if that's what his constituency elected him for!"

The leader of the NBF sat down.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:36 pm

Sri begins chanting, hoping others would join him.

"We zullen juche-tirannie hier nooit toestaan! Nooit! Nooit!"

(Eng: We will never allow juche tyranny here! Never! Never!)
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Postby Ikania » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:26 pm

"Order, order!" shouts the Speaker. "Mr. Lu, your objection is trivial. We have not published guidelines on proper parliamentary protocol, and I find the honourable member's comments to be well within the bounds of civil discourse. I advise you to address Mr. van der Hegel's points, rather than raise such otiose protests."
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:34 pm

Ikania wrote:"Order, order!" shouts the Speaker. "Mr. Lu, your objection is trivial. We have not published guidelines on proper parliamentary protocol, and I find the honourable member's comments to be well within the bounds of civil discourse. I advise you to address Mr. van der Hegel's points, rather than raise such otiose protests."


"Dood aan communisten en dood aan verraders! Lu dood schieten! Hij is een verrader!" Sri continues shouting from his seat.

(Death to communists and death to traitors! Shoot Lu dead! He is a traitor!)
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Postby Van Hool Islands » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:37 pm

Floortje glares at Sri. "Calm down, don't get kicked out." She speaks quietly, covering her microphone.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:53 pm

Van Hool Islands wrote:Floortje glares at Sri. "Calm down, don't get kicked out." She speaks quietly, covering her microphone.

Noticing the glare, the leader of the NBF rises.

"Please allow the Honorable Member to speak his mind, to make it known exactly what this deliberative body and the Banduri people think of Communists. That their tyranny and attempts at tyranny will simply not be accepted. And the attempt by the Honorable Member Cheung to silence her fellow Banduri when he speaks of the truth of the communist shows how even among our parties and alliances that call themselves moderates, there are elements like the Honorable Member who seek to silence the truth and not antagonize the communists. I would gladly ask the Honorable Member Cheung to allow her fellow statesmen, the Honorable Member Sri, to speak his truth lest she too is an appeaser of the Communist and secular cause!"
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Postby Van Hool Islands » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:59 pm

"Mister Speaker, I am not disallowing my colleague to speak his mind, but I don't want people expelled from this chamber because they're breaking parliamentary protocol and have the only people left be communists. I believe the honourable member should mind his own party's business. We mustn't stoop to the level of our enemies."
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Postby Merni » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:02 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Ikania wrote:"Order, order!" shouts the Speaker. "Mr. Lu, your objection is trivial. We have not published guidelines on proper parliamentary protocol, and I find the honourable member's comments to be well within the bounds of civil discourse. I advise you to address Mr. van der Hegel's points, rather than raise such otiose protests."


"Dood aan communisten en dood aan verraders! Lu dood schieten! Hij is een verrader!" Sri continues shouting from his seat.

(Death to communists and death to traitors! Shoot Lu dead! He is a traitor!)

Zhang Xiaoqing rose. "Point of order, Mr Speaker, I'm sure this is unparliamentary language.

While I agree with my colleagues that Kim Jong-un is an oppressive dictator, and welcome the news of his ill health, and possible death, I don't think this should be an occasion for us to attack each other. Let us stand strong and united against North Korea."
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:10 pm

Van Hool Islands wrote:"Mister Speaker, I am not disallowing my colleague to speak his mind, but I don't want people expelled from this chamber because they're breaking parliamentary protocol and have the only people left be communists. I believe the honourable member should mind his own party's business. We mustn't stoop to the level of our enemies."

Believing her misgendering of the NBF leader to be an honest mistake, Peng Rong decides to finish her rebuke quickly.

"Mister Speaker, we mustn't censor democracy and a difference of opinion either. And if the Honorable Member doesn't believe in allowing her party members to do anything more than to regurgitate the party line, that is not our democracy, that is the system of China and other communists! So it appears the Honorable Member has already stooped to the level of our enemies and is ready to do the same to keep her party in line!"
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Postby The Hindustani State » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:14 pm

"Mr. Speaker, what we are seeing here is a complete disregard of all the lives lost under brutal communist regimes. This is a complete and heartfelt insult to all of the North Korean defectors in Banduria, who came seeking freedom. MP Lu has done the unthinkable today, and I want every single member of this esteemed body to condemn his remarks wholly."
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Postby Van Hool Islands » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:19 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:"Mr. Speaker, what we are seeing here is a complete disregard of all the lives lost under brutal communist regimes. This is a complete and heartfelt insult to all of the North Korean defectors in Banduria, who came seeking freedom. MP Lu has done the unthinkable today, and I want every single member of this esteemed body to condemn his remarks wholly."

Hear, hear.
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Postby Merni » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:16 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:"Mr. Speaker, what we are seeing here is a complete disregard of all the lives lost under brutal communist regimes. This is a complete and heartfelt insult to all of the North Korean defectors in Banduria, who came seeking freedom. MP Lu has done the unthinkable today, and I want every single member of this esteemed body to condemn his remarks wholly."

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