NS Parliament 2 Chamber [IC]

[Martune]

"Order! Debate will now commence regarding the Green Energy Financing Act. There will be twenty four hours of discussion."

Speaker, I enjoy the well-meaning behind this bill and am willing to support it. My region has been a center of innovation and production of solar energy in particular and I would be very proud to return to my district with the news of this bill's passing. I cede my time.

"Hear hear!"

[Agarntrop]

"Order! Debate will now commence regarding the Green Energy Financing Act. There will be twenty four hours of discussion."

Speaker, I enjoy the well-meaning behind this bill and am willing to support it. My region has been a center of innovation and production of solar energy in particular and I would be very proud to return to my district with the news of this bill's passing. I cede my time.

Hear hear!

[Crylante]

Speaker, I enjoy the well-meaning behind this bill and am willing to support it. My region has been a center of innovation and production of solar energy in particular and I would be very proud to return to my district with the news of this bill's passing. I cede my time.

"Hear hear!"

"Hear hear!"

[Nova Anglicana]

"Mr. Speaker, as my colleague and our prime minister, the Honourable Joseph Yu, said, this bill is intended to encourage the development and adoption of green energy. Where the state must act, it should be prudent. Reckless action like banning forms of energy such as coal and natural gas will stifle our economy, while direct government action to build green energy would be wasteful and inefficient. We intend to provide incentives that the free market will respond to; with the development of more green energy, prices will drop and more people will adopt these sources of energy, providing us with low-cost and abundant energy that neither endangers our health through pollution nor our planet through carbon. This is a key pillar of our economic development and independence strategy, and I encourage all my colleagues to support it."

[Ikania]

"Order! Debate on the Green Energy Financing Act is closed, and, ah..." K.R. flips through his papers. "There it is..." he mumbles under his breath.

"Debate will commence on the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act. After this debate has concluded, there will be a combined vote on this matter and the bills which preceded it in discussion. Here is the agenda of bills that will be discussed in the coming days after this vote:"

- May 8: the Digital Transformation Act
- May 9: the Economic Modernization Act
- May 10: Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States

[Van Hool Islands]

Mister Speaker, it seems my bill the Linguistic Status Act has been completely ignored. I believe this should be rectified as it was submitted before all the other bills that are on the schedule.

[Merni]

"Mr Speaker, what about Question Time? It has been nearly a week since the Prime Minister was elected, and we have not yet had an opportunity to hold him to account."

[Skeckoa]

I propose a schedule be made and distributed to the members of the chamber in order, and that our debates include teleconferences where we can debate in real-time.

[Merni]

I propose a schedule be made and distributed to the members of the chamber in order, and that our debates include teleconferences where we can debate in real-time.

((OOC: the Speaker has already posted a schedule above. And if you want us to do a teleconference IRL, I don't think that would be viable at all - time zones would be the first problem.))

[Yaruqo]

"Order! Debate on the Green Energy Financing Act is closed, and, ah..." K.R. flips through his papers. "There it is..." he mumbles under his breath.

"Debate will commence on the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act. A criminal justice system designed to solely punish offenders, particularly first time offenders, is a criminal justice system that will continue to fail Bandurians. With this bill, we ensure that our justice system rehabilitates those who need it most. It is an honorable and productive first step towards a rehabilitative justice system, and I thank my Honorable colleague for proposing this legislation to the House."

[Agarntrop]

"Order! Debate on the Green Energy Financing Act is closed, and, ah..." K.R. flips through his papers. "There it is..." he mumbles under his breath.

"Debate will commence on the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act. A criminal justice system designed to solely punish offenders, particularly first time offenders, is a criminal justice system that will continue to fail Bandurians. With this bill, we ensure that our justice system rehabilitates those who need it most. It is an honorable and productive first step towards a rehabilitative justice system, and I thank my Honorable colleague for proposing this legislation to the House."

Hear! Hear!

[Sao Nova Europa]

"The Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act modernizes our penal system in a more humane but also more efficient direction. Humane because the purpose of prisons is to rehabilitate convicts, so that upon release they can become productive members of society. We are moving away from a revenge-based penal system and are moving towards a rehabilitative one. Efficient because we prevent increasing crime rates. Young first-time offenders convicted for lite crimes can easily be turned into violent criminals without proper rehabilitation. Instead of ruining their lives and condemning them to a life of crime, this bill offers them job training and psychological support so that upon release they can find a job and contribute to society, becoming responsible, law-abiding citizens."

[Skeckoa]

"Order! Debate on the Green Energy Financing Act is closed, and, ah..." K.R. flips through his papers. "There it is..." he mumbles under his breath.

"Debate will commence on the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act."

"Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act. A criminal justice system designed to solely punish offenders, particularly first time offenders, is a criminal justice system that will continue to fail Bandurians. With this bill, we ensure that our justice system rehabilitates those who need it most. It is an honorable and productive first step towards a rehabilitative justice system, and I thank my Honorable colleague for proposing this legislation to the House."

"The Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act modernizes our penal system in a more humane but also more efficient direction. Humane because the purpose of prisons is to rehabilitate convicts, so that upon release they can become productive members of society. We are moving away from a revenge-based penal system and are moving towards a rehabilitative one. Efficient because we prevent increasing crime rates. Young first-time offenders convicted for lite crimes can easily be turned into violent criminals without proper rehabilitation. Instead of ruining their lives and condemning them to a life of crime, this bill offers them job training and psychological support so that upon release they can find a job and contribute to society, becoming responsible, law-abiding citizens."

Speaker, I must say that I am absolutely disappointed by the direction sought by some of the MP's today.

They are sadly misinformed and want to reproduce the model that created the dangerous, dirty, smelly cities like Paris and Barcelona here in Banduria. Do you want your citizens to not rely on police? Because if this bill passes, our police will be nothing but a paper tiger, a dog with no teeth, a snake with no fangs.

This bill feels like something that came out from those elitist western universities and has little in relation to reality. I refuse to let Banduria turn into a toilet-bowl of youth crime, vandalism, and disorder, I refuse to allow criminals back on the streets, I refuse to deny Bandurian victims of crimes the justice they deserve, I refuse to allow our society to enter this death spiral of disorder and contempt for morales and laws.

The Democratic Party stenches each day as a party of criminals and criminal-enablers, and they serve their ideologies, not the realities of their country. I cede my time.

[Agarntrop]

"The Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act modernizes our penal system in a more humane but also more efficient direction. Humane because the purpose of prisons is to rehabilitate convicts, so that upon release they can become productive members of society. We are moving away from a revenge-based penal system and are moving towards a rehabilitative one. Efficient because we prevent increasing crime rates. Young first-time offenders convicted for lite crimes can easily be turned into violent criminals without proper rehabilitation. Instead of ruining their lives and condemning them to a life of crime, this bill offers them job training and psychological support so that upon release they can find a job and contribute to society, becoming responsible, law-abiding citizens."

Hear hear

[Agarntrop]

"Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act. A criminal justice system designed to solely punish offenders, particularly first time offenders, is a criminal justice system that will continue to fail Bandurians. With this bill, we ensure that our justice system rehabilitates those who need it most. It is an honorable and productive first step towards a rehabilitative justice system, and I thank my Honorable colleague for proposing this legislation to the House."

"The Societal Integration of Young Lite Offenders Act modernizes our penal system in a more humane but also more efficient direction. Humane because the purpose of prisons is to rehabilitate convicts, so that upon release they can become productive members of society. We are moving away from a revenge-based penal system and are moving towards a rehabilitative one. Efficient because we prevent increasing crime rates. Young first-time offenders convicted for lite crimes can easily be turned into violent criminals without proper rehabilitation. Instead of ruining their lives and condemning them to a life of crime, this bill offers them job training and psychological support so that upon release they can find a job and contribute to society, becoming responsible, law-abiding citizens."

Speaker, I must say that I am absolutely disappointed by the direction sought by some of the MP's today.

They are sadly misinformed and want to reproduce the model that created the dangerous, dirty, smelly cities like Paris and Barcelona here in Banduria. Do you want your citizens to not rely on police? Because if this bill passes, our police will be nothing but a paper tiger, a dog with no teeth, a snake with no fangs.

This bill feels like something that came out from those elitist western universities and has little in relation to reality. I refuse to let Banduria turn into a toilet-bowl of youth crime, vandalism, and disorder, I refuse to allow criminals back on the streets, I refuse to deny Bandurian victims of crimes the justice they deserve, I refuse to allow our society to enter this death spiral of disorder and contempt for morales and laws.

The Democratic Party stenches each day as a party of criminals and criminal-enablers, and they serve their ideologies, not the realities of their country. I cede my time.

Sri laughs, before muttering "fucking tankies nowadays" under his breath.

[Sao Nova Europa]

"The accusations levied against the bill are ludicrous and reproduce far right misinformation and ignorance of science. I ask out colleague, do they want young first time offenders convicted for lite crimes to be unable to integrate in society, turn to professional crime and become social outcasts? I certainly do not. The position of the bill is that those people should be given job training and psychological support so that upon release they may find a job and start contributing to society. Isn't that what we should be striving for? To turn young offenders into productive, law abiding members of society? Those people will be released from prison upon serving their sentence. Our colleague believes that we should allow then to become violent criminals. I believe we should turn them into productive citizens. The first choice leads to increased crime rates and violence, the second to declining crime rates."

[Agarntrop]

"The accusations levied against the bill are ludicrous and reproduce far right misinformation and ignorance of science. I ask out colleague, do they want young first time offenders convicted for lite crimes to be unable to integrate in society, turn to professional crime and become social outcasts? I certainly do not. The position of the bill is that those people should be given job training and psychological support so that upon release they may find a job and start contributing to society. Isn't that what we should be striving for? To turn young offenders into productive, law abiding members of society? Those people will be released from prison upon serving their sentence. Our colleague believes that we should allow then to become violent criminals. I believe we should turn them into productive citizens. The first choice leads to increased crime rates and violence, the second to declining crime rates."

Hear!

[Skeckoa]

"The accusations levied against the bill are ludicrous and reproduce far right misinformation and ignorance of science. I ask out colleague, do they want young first time offenders convicted for lite crimes to be unable to integrate in society, turn to professional crime and become social outcasts? I certainly do not. The position of the bill is that those people should be given job training and psychological support so that upon release they may find a job and start contributing to society. Isn't that what we should be striving for? To turn young offenders into productive, law abiding members of society? Those people will be released from prison upon serving their sentence. Our colleague believes that we should allow then to become violent criminals. I believe we should turn them into productive citizens. The first choice leads to increased crime rates and violence, the second to declining crime rates."

Hear!

Hello Speaker, it seems like this chamber reeks of backwardness and people bent on creating chaos and disorder for our citizens in order to satisfy their ideology. What they are proposing is paying with school, slapping them on the wrist, and sending them back out to go commit another crime. Heck, you commit another crime they might start paying for the Doctorates! Paid for by sticking up innocent women in the parks. Ludicrous is paying the criminal for committing a crime, instead of recompensating the victim handsomely for our failure to maintain law and order.

[Skeckoa]

Hear!

Hello Speaker, it seems like this chamber reeks of backwardness and people bent on creating chaos and disorder for our citizens in order to satisfy their ideology. What they are proposing is paying with school, slapping them on the wrist, and sending them back out to go commit another crime. Heck, you commit another crime they might start paying for the Doctorates! Paid for by sticking up innocent women in the parks. Ludicrous is paying the criminal for committing a crime, instead of recompensating the victim handsomely for our failure to maintain law and order.

*MP Xie Jia Ju holds up a white posterboard sign with the words #MoneyforVictimsNotCriminals written in black boldface type*

[Merni]

"The accusations levied against the bill are ludicrous and reproduce far right misinformation and ignorance of science. I ask out colleague, do they want young first time offenders convicted for lite crimes to be unable to integrate in society, turn to professional crime and become social outcasts? I certainly do not. The position of the bill is that those people should be given job training and psychological support so that upon release they may find a job and start contributing to society. Isn't that what we should be striving for? To turn young offenders into productive, law abiding members of society? Those people will be released from prison upon serving their sentence. Our colleague believes that we should allow then to become violent criminals. I believe we should turn them into productive citizens. The first choice leads to increased crime rates and violence, the second to declining crime rates."

"Hear, hear! Furthermore, Mr Speaker, I believe the behaviour of my hon. colleague is unparliamentary. This chamber is not a place for political campaigns and sloganeering."

[Agarntrop]

Hear!

Hello Speaker, it seems like this chamber reeks of backwardness and people bent on creating chaos and disorder for our citizens in order to satisfy their ideology. What they are proposing is paying with school, slapping them on the wrist, and sending them back out to go commit another crime. Heck, you commit another crime they might start paying for the Doctorates! Paid for by sticking up innocent women in the parks. Ludicrous is paying the criminal for committing a crime, instead of recompensating the victim handsomely for our failure to maintain law and order.

Mister Speaker, point of order, "hello speaker" is a wholly innapropiate way of addressing you.

[Yaruqo]

"Mr. Speaker, I will try to redirect us to a more productive debate. As my Honorable colleague, the esteemed Interior Minister Susilo Sri, has pointed out, providing a means for young first time offenders to become productive members of society will decrease recidivism. If you look at this bill solely through the lens of 'What will be more productive for Bandurian society', a bill like this would ensure that citizens who have strayed from the law can become law abiding, productive citizens giving back to their communities while providing for themselves and their families. On top of this, this bill would ensure that our justice system becomes a little more just. We are not Beijing, nor should we strive to Beijing's views and attitudes towards criminal justice. This bill does not weaken the police. It does not say 'If you commit murder, arson, or burglary then you get to walk free and commit crimes again', as the Member from the Revolutionary Peoples' Party seems to suggest. The bill does not pardon said young first time offenders. It merely gives them the chance to make right, to remove themselves from a path of criminality while providing a helping hand, if such a helping hand is needed. Surely, Mr. Speaker, it is the ultimate goal of the state to better the lives of its citizens, and this bill will do just that in its own way. I further would like to suggest, Mr. Speaker, that the Member of the House from the RPP remember that this is the House of Representatives of the Parliament of Banduria, not a campaign rally, and perhaps the Member should conduct themselves accordingly."

[Skeckoa]

MP Xie Jia Ju steps out to go to her office where she is pending for a teleconference with a coalition of local business people about how to market their businesses during this pandemic. On where way out a security guard stops her

"Here, ma'am, you need to chill, you want a cigarette?"

*Pulls single cigarette halfway out of the carton*

*Xie Jia Ju grabs the cigarette sternly, rips it half, and throws both halves down on the floor in front of her.*

"Don't you know smoking is bad for you!"

*Continues walking towards her office*

[Sao Nova Europa]

"Mr. Speaker, I will try to redirect us to a more productive debate. As my Honorable colleague, the esteemed Interior Minister Susilo Sri, has pointed out, providing a means for young first time offenders to become productive members of society will decrease recidivism. If you look at this bill solely through the lens of 'What will be more productive for Bandurian society', a bill like this would ensure that citizens who have strayed from the law can become law abiding, productive citizens giving back to their communities while providing for themselves and their families. On top of this, this bill would ensure that our justice system becomes a little more just. We are not Beijing, nor should we strive to Beijing's views and attitudes towards criminal justice. This bill does not weaken the police. It does not say 'If you commit murder, arson, or burglary then you get to walk free and commit crimes again', as the Member from the Revolutionary Peoples' Party seems to suggest. The bill does not pardon said young first time offenders. It merely gives them the chance to make right, to remove themselves from a path of criminality while providing a helping hand, if such a helping hand is needed. Surely, Mr. Speaker, it is the ultimate goal of the state to better the lives of its citizens, and this bill will do just that in its own way. I further would like to suggest, Mr. Speaker, that the Member of the House from the RPP remember that this is the House of Representatives of the Parliament of Banduria, not a campaign rally, and perhaps the Member should conduct themselves accordingly."

"Hear! Hear!"

[Agarntrop]

Mister Speaker, as interior Minister I would like to inform the house it is the position of the Government to support the bill.