NS Parliament 2 Chamber [IC]

[Agarntrop]

Sri puts his head in his hands.

"Fucking showboating beeyatch..." he mumbles

[Ikania]

OOC:

Sigh.

Read the god damn bill. Five sponsors. Jakob van der Hegel (NVP), Susilo Sri (UCP), Jan van der Stel (NVP), Willem van Aldenkamp (Reform), and Joseph Yu (UCP). The post has not been edited since the 2nd of May. This is the bill that was submitted to me through the Speaker's office, and is publicly visible for anyone to read on the offsite forum. When I bring a bill to the floor, I make sure to rigorously check that it has five sponsors- it takes all of ten seconds. I tried to address this in my last post by directly giving you the link to the bill, but it seems that went over your head.

The bill has acquired the prerequisite sponsors, and will continue to be discussed. That is the end of the matter.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Xie returns to the podium

Mister Speaker, one more time for the public record, and for the Bandurian press, this bill does NOT have the sufficient number of sponsors. The amount of misinformation in this chamber is sickening, and the disregard for your own rules and contempt for those who are not part of your tribe reminds me of a five-year old fighting over getting to use the class set of building blocks.

However, now I would like to respond to the government MPs that say that I have no substantial critiques of this bill, that also is simply NOT true.

What i see in the bill before me is yet ANOTHER, one among many many many other attempts to centralize wealth into a few select sectors, and in the hands of a few select people. My district, my people have survived for centuries from fishing and mining, no more, no less. This bill isn't meant to uplift people from my neck of the woods, it is meant to make our livelihoods obsolete. Where are the protections for the well-established mining unions? Where are the reparations for the subsistence farming whose plots will be made obsolete by the advance in the ill-defined subsidies for "agricultural technologies"? Support for our fishers?

This bill not only allows, but encourages that Bandurian taxpayers subsidize foreign multinational companies to come and exploit our workers. I agree with the MP who proposed lifting the threshold of Bandurian ownership from 40% to 51%, less this chamber be responsible for the pimping out of our workforce to Korean and Japanese elites, whom we already know about the contempt they have for people like us.

Our markets are made for the export of primary goods, this bill helps those districts that already have the population base and infrastructure to have factories, that's great for our city-dwellers, but where does that leave our rural folks?

I propose an amendment to this bill to ensure that at least 80% of all the money allocated by this bill be spent on the poorest 20% of Bandurian municipalities, because if we are not uplifting our poorest citizens, we are not uplifting at all. I also propose an amendment to strike out subsidies for commercial and investment banks, instead opting to establish a national credit union or subsidizing existing credit unions. Lastly, I propose an amendment to strike import tariffs as a way of amassing said funds, because the subsequent price rises would most impact poor consumers such as the ones that populate our countrysides.

I will not go forth with agreeing to spend millions,possibly billions, to set my own people back into obscurity. I would recommend that this bill be voted AGAINST, and that rural working unions and community leaders be invited to construct this bill. NO. MORE. WORKING. CLASS. SUBSIDIES. FOR. MIDDLE. CLASS. FAMILIES.

"Hear Hear"

[NS Parliament Administrators]

Due to their refusal to heed admin instructions involving metagame, Skeckoa is banned for a week and the sponsorship fiasco is voided.

When an admin tells you to drop something, drop it.

-Cranlet/Van Hool Islands

[Roosevetania]

Yang Jianguo hurries into the Chamber after winning a by-election. He sits in the opposition benches, nodding at his old friends that he recognizes.

[Merni]

"Mr Speaker, I request that we have Question Time after this debate."

[Ikania]

"Mr Speaker, I request that we have Question Time after this debate."

"The Honourable Member has requested to hold a question period. I will allow it, unless the government objects, to begin after the discussion of the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. Furthermore, I think it would be an illuminating prospect to hold a question period at least one day of the week, in order to allow for more flexible debate in the chamber."

[Inhorto]

"Mr Speaker, I request that we have Question Time after this debate."

"The Honourable Member has requested to hold a question period. I will allow it, unless the government objects, to begin after the discussion of the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. Furthermore, I think it would be an illuminating prospect to hold a question period at least one day of the week, in order to allow for more flexible debate in the chamber."

"The government has no objections, Mr. Speaker."

[Merni]

"Mr Speaker, I request that we have Question Time after this debate."

"The Honourable Member has requested to hold a question period. I will allow it, unless the government objects, to begin after the discussion of the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. Furthermore, I think it would be an illuminating prospect to hold a question period at least one day of the week, in order to allow for more flexible debate in the chamber."

(OOC: That's in the rules of procedure)

[Martune]

Mina walks in and overhears the commotion about Question Time.

"Mr Speaker, I request that we have Question Time after this debate."

"The Honourable Member has requested to hold a question period. I will allow it, unless the government objects, to begin after the discussion of the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. Furthermore, I think it would be an illuminating prospect to hold a question period at least one day of the week, in order to allow for more flexible debate in the chamber."

"Point of Parliamentary Inquiry, Mr. Speaker, but why is it a matter of government objection that would put the idea of question time to rest. Is it not required that you allot us question time weekly?"

[Ikania]

Mina walks in and overhears the commotion about Question Time.

"The Honourable Member has requested to hold a question period. I will allow it, unless the government objects, to begin after the discussion of the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. Furthermore, I think it would be an illuminating prospect to hold a question period at least one day of the week, in order to allow for more flexible debate in the chamber."

"Point of Parliamentary Inquiry, Mr. Speaker, but why is it a matter of government objection that would put the idea of question time to rest. Is it not required that you allot us question time weekly?"

"It is required. And it will be done. Discussion of the Economic Modernization Act has finished. Debate will now begin on the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. I might give this one more time if it proves to be contentious."

[Van Hool Islands]

Mina walks in and overhears the commotion about Question Time.



"Point of Parliamentary Inquiry, Mr. Speaker, but why is it a matter of government objection that would put the idea of question time to rest. Is it not required that you allot us question time weekly?"

"It is required. And it will be done. Discussion of the Economic Modernization Act has finished. Debate will now begin on the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. I might give this one more time if it proves to be contentious."

Mister Speaker, required by whom? As a member of the government I don't think the government should be able to object to something that's required by our GEA.

[Merni]

"It is required. And it will be done. Discussion of the Economic Modernization Act has finished. Debate will now begin on the Resolution on the Recognition of Foreign States. I might give this one more time if it proves to be contentious."

Mister Speaker, required by whom? As a member of the government I don't think the government should be able to object to something that's required by our GEA.

"A small correction, Mister Speaker: required by the Rules of Procedure, not the GEA.

Mr Speaker, I support the provisions of this bill. While I am morally utterly against any closer relations with the genocidal faux-socialist PRC, I do realise that it is necessary for the Bandurian economy to thrive. I welcome clauses 4.3 and 4.4 as completely necessary in order to maintain our principles in the face of the PRC's aggression.

As for Palestine and Kosovo, the provisions are nothing but common sense and respect for the right to self-determination of the Palestinian and Kosovar people. However, clause 2.6 regarding the clearly illegal settlements by Israel in Palestinian territory does not go nearly far enough, and I cannot fully support this bill until the language in this clause is strengthened, at least to a condemnation similar to that of clause 4.4. I urge the Prime Minister to look into this."

[Roosevetania]

"Mr. Speaker, I concur with most of this bill. Recognizing the sovereignty of the People's Republic of China and the sovereignty of the Palestinian people is paramount. However, I agree with my Honorable Colleague that the language condemning Israel does not go far enough. Is this government prepared to specifically criticize the rumored wrongdoings of a socialist state with which we are allied, but not to even condemn the observable crimes of an illegitimate apartheid state? Until this is rectified, like my colleague, I cannot support this bill tilted towards colonizers."

[Kamilistan]

Chuah immediatly rush into the chamber , quickly sitting on his own seat. He was still holding his Huawei phone with him. He knew he was late but he had to finish his paperwork.

[Agarntrop]

I cannot support this bill. It jeopardises our safety and our security as a nation. Clause 4.6 will ruin our relationship with the PRC and we will be under constant fiscal threat. To do so would be irresponsible.

[Merni]

I cannot support this bill. It jeopardises our safety and our security as a nation. Clause 4.6 will ruin our relationship with the PRC and we will be under constant fiscal threat. To do so would be irresponsible.

"Point of order, Mr Speaker, the member did not address you."

[Agarntrop]

I cannot support this bill. It jeopardises our safety and our security as a nation. Clause 4.6 will ruin our relationship with the PRC and we will be under constant fiscal threat. To do so would be irresponsible.

"Point of order, Mr Speaker, the member did not address you."

I apologise, Mr Speaker

[Inhorto]

"Mr. Speaker, Honorable Colleagues,

"As per bipartisan request, the language of the bill regarding Israeli settlements has been altered to:

The House of Representatives condemns Government of Israel's policy of encroachment into Palestinian lands through the building of settlements deemed to be in violation of Article 3 of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention).

"I hope this shall sate their requests. In terms of Clause 4.4, which many Honorable Members have deemed to be too soft on the Chinese government, I should like to remind the body that this government has drafted a bill to condemn the genocide of the Uyghur population. Thank you."

I cannot support this bill. It jeopardises our safety and our security as a nation. Clause 4.6 will ruin our relationship with the PRC and we will be under constant fiscal threat. To do so would be irresponsible.

"Mr. Speaker, I find myself somewhat confused, as Clause 4.6 does not exist in this bill. Could the member clarify what he is referring to?"

[Agarntrop]

"Mr. Speaker, Honorable Colleagues,

"As per bipartisan request, the language of the bill regarding Israeli settlements has been altered to:

The House of Representatives condemns Government of Israel's policy of encroachment into Palestinian lands through the building of settlements deemed to be in violation of Article 3 of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention).

"I hope this shall sate their requests. In terms of Clause 4.4, which many Honorable Members have deemed to be too soft on the Chinese government, I should like to remind the body that this government has drafted a bill to condemn the genocide of the Uyghur population. Thank you."

I cannot support this bill. It jeopardises our safety and our security as a nation. Clause 4.6 will ruin our relationship with the PRC and we will be under constant fiscal threat. To do so would be irresponsible.

"Mr. Speaker, I find myself somewhat confused, as Clause 4.6 does not exist in this bill. Could the member clarify what he is referring to?"

I apologise, Mr Speaker, I was referring to Clause 4.4.

[Agarntrop]

Motion to extend debate to a period of 72 hours, Mr Speaker, and additional motion for the chair to take amendments.

[Martune]

Motion to extend debate to a period of 72 hours, Mr Speaker, and additional motion for the chair to take amendments.

"Mr. Speaker, I second both motions."

[Inhorto]

Motion to extend debate to a period of 72 hours, Mr Speaker, and additional motion for the chair to take amendments.

“Mr. Speaker, I am opposed to this motion. We have business to attend to in this House. This motion is dilatory and frivolous.”

[Merni]

Motion to extend debate to a period of 72 hours, Mr Speaker, and additional motion for the chair to take amendments.

“Mr. Speaker, I am opposed to this motion. We have business to attend to in this House. This motion is dilatory and frivolous.”

"Hear, hear. Additionally, Mr Speaker, there is no need for Mr Sri to move that you take amendments; according to the rules of procedure he can just propose an amendment and it will be considered if it gains the necessary support."

[American Pere Housh]

Michael Hsing walks into the Parliament chamber and takes a seat. "Apologies for the lateness Mr. Speaker."