The Medieval South [OOC/Sign-Ups]

[Alaroma]

Can black people vote in Louisiana?
Also do they recruit black soldiers?

Can any people vote in Louisiana is a better question.

[Sanabel]

Louisiana banning slavery in NOLA is just nuts

It may be urban, but you must understand that most residents of the city were people who also had stake in farms in other parts of the state and needed slavery to fund their lavish lifestyle, not to mention they used slaves for house help.

It seems like Louisiana is trying to have its cake and eat it too

[The Baton Rouge Free State]

Can black people vote in Louisiana?
Also do they recruit black soldiers?

when u asking if people can vote but the point of a game is its a feudal monarchy

[Khasinkonia]

Louisiana banning slavery in NOLA is just nuts

It may be urban, but you must understand that most residents of the city were people who also had stake in farms in other parts of the state and needed slavery to fund their lavish lifestyle, not to mention they used slaves for house help.

It seems like Louisiana is trying to have its cake and eat it too

Just like with the North, you can purchase and own slaves outside of the city, but what you need to know about New Orleans is that the population made its money not from stakes in farms elsewhere, but from the financial markets, the port, etc. Many wealthy New Orleanians hired immigrants and freedmen as houseworkers rather than owning slaves. Furthermore, considering P.G.T. Beauregard's irl opinions, it makes sense that the city in which abolition would be least opposed in perhaps the entire south would be one of the first to see abolition.

Can black people vote in Louisiana?
Also do they recruit black soldiers?

Nobody can vote in Louisiana. Black soldiers could theoretically be recruited for garrisons, but in practice it doesn't happen.

[Sanabel]

Louisiana banning slavery in NOLA is just nuts

It may be urban, but you must understand that most residents of the city were people who also had stake in farms in other parts of the state and needed slavery to fund their lavish lifestyle, not to mention they used slaves for house help.

It seems like Louisiana is trying to have its cake and eat it too

Just like with the North, you can purchase and own slaves outside of the city, but what you need to know about New Orleans is that the population made its money not from stakes in farms elsewhere, but from the financial markets, the port, etc. Many wealthy New Orleanians hired immigrants and freedmen as houseworkers rather than owning slaves. Furthermore, considering P.G.T. Beauregard's irl opinions, it makes sense that the city in which abolition would be least opposed in perhaps the entire south would be one of the first to see abolition.

Can black people vote in Louisiana?
Also do they recruit black soldiers?

Nobody can vote in Louisiana. Black soldiers could theoretically be recruited for garrisons, but in practice it doesn't happen.

But how would financial markets and port traffic remain significant under a feudal system which is inherently agrarian?

[Sarderia]

Arthur Rotschild Lee - (1860 - Present)

Account Name: Sarderia
Occupation: Viscount of Alexandria, Financier, and Banker
Motives: Arthur is still somewhat reckless and daring in managing the financial activity of the Bank, given his young age. But his primary motives, if all, is not very different than his father's would ever be; creating more profit for the Bank, and keep the status quo of the Confederacy remaining unchanged.
Background:

Salomon James de Rotschild immigrated from France to the United States in 1850. As a young man, according to the Goncourt brothers, he squandered "a million on the stock exchange in attempted secrecy from his father" and was exiled to Frankfurt, where he spent two years keeping books. Rothschild was dispatched to America, where he was supposed to help advance the family's banking interests. He set up a branch of the Rotschild family bank on New York in 1851, and started building up the bank's investments in America. The Rotschild bank financed many commercial activities of American businessmen, such as the drilling of oil wells and steel mines in Pennsylvania, opening of coal mines in West Virginia, and investing in newly-bulit steel and textile factories across the county. It is at this point when he came in contact with Mary Ann Lee, the daughter of Henry Lee IV, a historian and scholar who was brother to US Army General Robert E. Lee. Despite being famous for his great success in the Mexican-American War, Robert Lee was a known industrialist who wished to expand the sector in his home state of Virginia. Sensing great opportunity to gain from such a high-ranking official, in 1854 Solomon moved his residence to Richmond and redirected the bank offices in Pennsylvania and New England to Virginia, except for the branch in New York which was still open. This greatly favored himself in the Virginia elite society, as another major financial center of business was opened in their home state, as it gave them a larger holding over the United States' finances. Salomon eventually married with Mary Ann Lee in 1855, in the traditional Southern Baptist rite, cementing his position as a member of the larger Lee family and the Virginia aristocracy as a whole. In 1856, Mary Ann gave birth to their only son, Arthur Rotschild Lee - Salomon decided to let him keep the matrilineal name in Arthur's last name due to respect for the family. The next year saw the transformation of the Bank - it was merged with other financial institutions, including Mary Ann's large inheritance trust, creating the Rotschild and Lee Virginia Banking Company - more known as the Virginia Bank nowadays.

From 1859 to 1861, Salomon traveled extensively in the United States, Canada and Cuba. He was an eyewitness to the events leading up to the American Civil War. He regarded Abraham Lincoln as an extremist and his political sympathies lay with the Confederate cause, and the Virginia Bank increasingly supplied the state governments of Virginia and South Carolina to arm themselves. Salomon went back to France and invited one of his cousins to take over operations in New York - splitting the Manhattan Rotschild Bank from the Virginia Bank. Fearing for the outbreak of war, Salomon entrusted General Lee with the care of Arthur and his wife, and he bought an estate in Washington as their temporary home. During this time, he would often teach Arthur how to hold a revolver. Eventually, the American Civil War breaks out in 1861, and Salomon largely served as the financial adviser and backer to President Jefferson Davis. He gave generous loans to the Confederacy to buy arms, and even brokered arms deals and loans from the European branch of the Rotschild banks. This is one of the factors that helped their significant increase of wealth in the 1870s later.

Eventually, Salomon was called into service, as well as the other prominent businessmen and aristocrats in Virginia, when General Robert E. Lee formed the Army of Northern Virginia in 1862. He took part at the Seven Days' Battles which drove Union General McClellan's forces from Richmond. Fortunately, Salomon was on a temporary absent when the news of Antietam's stalemate and President Lincoln's Emanicipation Proclamation was released into the country. That provided whatever little time he had to restructure the loans he had given to President Davis, and requesting additional assistance from Europe, in case both the North and South needed more funds to finance both their wars and their economies, especially free of slavery. Salomon took a hundred men and rejoined General Lee's forces before the Battle of Gettysburg. Known as the most famous battle, some claimed - as well as the battle with most casualties in the Civil War, Salomon barely escaped with his life, being shot and wounded multiple times. Due to the conditions at his home being barely peaceful either - their home are plagued by attacks from Union forces frequently - he retreated from the war to fortify the mansion. Ultimately, the South won the Civil War, and Salomon managed to gain the title of Viscount at the political chaos that ensued. He died of his wounds and bad health in 1870, five years after the end of the Civil War. The Virginia Bank was transferred into Mary Ann's authority, and later, Arthur's. The debts of the Confederacy fully paid, now Arthur would not miss a chance to expand his investments, once he inherited his father's titles.

Titles/Positions: Viscount of Alexandria, President of the Rotschild & Lee Virginia Banking Company
Holdings: Arlington, Alexandria, Banks throughout the South, East Tennessee, Virginia and Georgia Railroad, significant amounts of Gold reserves
Politics: Arthur is not inclined to support either the Governor of Maryland - representative and ruler of Maryland in behalf of the Union - or the Viscount of Norfolk, a southern Virginian businessmen, or other representatives of the South and the North in general. While significant parts of his business, including the railroad, lays in the south, he would agree to sign contracts with all beneficial parties, as long as the investment generates profit.
Faith: Southern Baptist Church

[Khasinkonia]

Just like with the North, you can purchase and own slaves outside of the city, but what you need to know about New Orleans is that the population made its money not from stakes in farms elsewhere, but from the financial markets, the port, etc. Many wealthy New Orleanians hired immigrants and freedmen as houseworkers rather than owning slaves. Furthermore, considering P.G.T. Beauregard's irl opinions, it makes sense that the city in which abolition would be least opposed in perhaps the entire south would be one of the first to see abolition.


Nobody can vote in Louisiana. Black soldiers could theoretically be recruited for garrisons, but in practice it doesn't happen.

But how would financial markets and port traffic remain significant under a feudal system which is inherently agrarian?

They were actually significant because of the agrarian system. New Orleans has existed for most of its history to transfer goods from the Mississippi basin to oceangoing vessels, which remains constant here, if not more significant. There's a reason why New Orleans was the only city in the South that could come close to rivalling northern cities in size. The feudal system may be agrarian, but it's fundamentally founded upon the colonial export system. You can't eat cotton, so to make use of it, you have to sell it. Which means exporting.

[Dentali]

Please reserve James Longstreet Governor of Georgia

[Sanabel]

Please reserve James Longstreet Governor of Georgia

What is his title of nobility

[Dahyan]

But how would financial markets and port traffic remain significant under a feudal system which is inherently agrarian?

They were actually significant because of the agrarian system. New Orleans has existed for most of its history to transfer goods from the Mississippi basin to oceangoing vessels, which remains constant here, if not more significant. There's a reason why New Orleans was the only city in the South that could come close to rivalling northern cities in size. The feudal system may be agrarian, but it's fundamentally founded upon the colonial export system. You can't eat cotton, so to make use of it, you have to sell it. Which means exporting.

Basically, yeah. Merchant capitalism and feudalism are not mutually exckusive, in fact they went hand in hand for centuries.

[Vienna Eliot]

Is mine accepted yet?

It is not.

Christian Franklin

This is fine. Since foreign affairs aren't meant to play a huge role anyway, I don't think this backstory poses any problems.

Newton Knight

A story worth exploring. Accepted.

Please reserve James Longstreet Governor of Georgia

Only the Union has governors. Perhaps you mean the Prince of Georgia?

[Vienna Eliot]

WILLIAM "BILL" MERCER

Also accepted.

[Dentali]

James Longstreet - (1821- ???)

Account Name: Dentali
Occupation: Duke of Georgia
Motives: Stability of the Empire, Growth of Georgia, Alliance with Stonewall jackson
Background:

General Robert E Lee’s “Old War Horse”, General James Longstreet was one of the best generals of the American Civil War, serving under Lee in the Eastern Theater. He was born in South Carolina in 1821 and raised in Georgia on a cotton plantation. He was sent to school in Atlanta as a boy and was a very active child growing up in rural frontier Georgia. He was coarse and unruly until obtaining a West Point appointment to the United States Military Academy in 1838.

Longstreet was a poor student graduating in the bottom third of his class when he graduated in ‘42, after which he served in the US military. He saw action in the Mexican-American War, serving with distinction in a number of battles. After which he married and had 10 children. He would serve in numerous frontier posts fighting natives american tribes and in 1861 was a paymaster for the United States Army.

He was against the secession but after the Battle of Fort Sumter he resigned his commission and joined the Confederacy. During the War he served with distinction under General Robert E Lee becoming his most trusted commander and rising to the rank of Major General. He played a key role in the victory at Gettysburg and subsequent campaigns, remaining on the strategic offensive and the tactical defensive.

After the war he stayed in command for a short period before retiring back to Georgia where he received a hero’s welcome. And after the South began descending into feudalism he ran for Governor and won the popular vote. The incumbent Governor declared himself Duke of Georgia and refused to concede, which Longstreet answered by raising an army of Civil War veterans to overthrow him.

Longstreet has been Duke of Georgia since 1870 and has led the state to much prosperity. Savannah has become the largest port in the South and the main trading hub for the entire confederacy. Georgia itself has become a Constitutional Monarchy which Longstreet focused on industrialization bringing it much economic prosperity. Additionally Longstreet had supported a gradual emancipation of the slaves, with them enjoying many more rights and privileges than they would in other states. Militarily Georgia has focused on building naval power to protect its trading empire. He is also noted to have spent a great deal of time and effort trying to reconcile with Northern leaders.

Titles/Positions: Duke of Georgia
Holdings: Georgia
Politics: Liberty Party
Faith: Presbyterian

[Union Princes]

Found some neat uniforms for this rp

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[Sanabel]

James Longstreet - (1821- ???)

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Account Name: Dentali
Occupation: Duke of Georgia
Motives: Stability of the Empire, Growth of Georgia, Alliance with Stonewall jackson
Background:

General Robert E Lee’s “Old War Horse”, General James Longstreet was one of the best generals of the American Civil War, serving under Lee in the Eastern Theater. He was born in South Carolina in 1821 and raised in Georgia on a cotton plantation. He was sent to school in Atlanta as a boy and was a very active child growing up in rural frontier Georgia. He was coarse and unruly until obtaining a West Point appointment to the United States Military Academy in 1838.

Longstreet was a poor student graduating in the bottom third of his class when he graduated in ‘42, after which he served in the US military. He saw action in the Mexican-American War, serving with distinction in a number of battles. After which he married and had 10 children. He would serve in numerous frontier posts fighting natives american tribes and in 1861 was a paymaster for the United States Army.

He was against the secession but after the Battle of Fort Sumter he resigned his commission and joined the Confederacy. During the War he served with distinction under General Robert E Lee becoming his most trusted commander and rising to the rank of Major General. He played a key role in the victory at Gettysburg and subsequent campaigns, remaining on the strategic offensive and the tactical defensive.

After the war he stayed in command for a short period before retiring back to Georgia where he received a hero’s welcome. And after the South began descending into feudalism he ran for Governor and won the popular vote. The incumbent Governor declared himself Duke of Georgia and refused to concede, which Longstreet answered by raising an army of Civil War veterans to overthrow him.

Longstreet has been Duke of Georgia since 1870 and has led the state to much prosperity. Savannah has become the largest port in the South and the main trading hub for the entire confederacy. Georgia itself has become a Constitutional Monarchy which Longstreet focused on industrialization bringing it much economic prosperity. Additionally Longstreet had supported a gradual emancipation of the slaves, with them enjoying many more rights and privileges than they would in other states. Militarily Georgia has focused on building naval power to protect its trading empire. He is also noted to have spent a great deal of time and effort trying to reconcile with Northern leaders.

Titles/Positions: Duke of Georgia
Holdings: Georgia
Politics: Liberty Party
Faith: Presbyterian

Bruh how is Georgia industrializing, economically prospering, and emancipating slaves when it’s a feudalist RP

[Khasinkonia]

James Longstreet - (1821- ???)

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Account Name: Dentali
Occupation: Duke of Georgia
Motives: Stability of the Empire, Growth of Georgia, Alliance with Stonewall jackson
Background:

General Robert E Lee’s “Old War Horse”, General James Longstreet was one of the best generals of the American Civil War, serving under Lee in the Eastern Theater. He was born in South Carolina in 1821 and raised in Georgia on a cotton plantation. He was sent to school in Atlanta as a boy and was a very active child growing up in rural frontier Georgia. He was coarse and unruly until obtaining a West Point appointment to the United States Military Academy in 1838.

Longstreet was a poor student graduating in the bottom third of his class when he graduated in ‘42, after which he served in the US military. He saw action in the Mexican-American War, serving with distinction in a number of battles. After which he married and had 10 children. He would serve in numerous frontier posts fighting natives american tribes and in 1861 was a paymaster for the United States Army.

He was against the secession but after the Battle of Fort Sumter he resigned his commission and joined the Confederacy. During the War he served with distinction under General Robert E Lee becoming his most trusted commander and rising to the rank of Major General. He played a key role in the victory at Gettysburg and subsequent campaigns, remaining on the strategic offensive and the tactical defensive.

After the war he stayed in command for a short period before retiring back to Georgia where he received a hero’s welcome. And after the South began descending into feudalism he ran for Governor and won the popular vote. The incumbent Governor declared himself Duke of Georgia and refused to concede, which Longstreet answered by raising an army of Civil War veterans to overthrow him.

Longstreet has been Duke of Georgia since 1870 and has led the state to much prosperity. Savannah has become the largest port in the South and the main trading hub for the entire confederacy. Georgia itself has become a Constitutional Monarchy which Longstreet focused on industrialization bringing it much economic prosperity. Additionally Longstreet had supported a gradual emancipation of the slaves, with them enjoying many more rights and privileges than they would in other states. Militarily Georgia has focused on building naval power to protect its trading empire. He is also noted to have spent a great deal of time and effort trying to reconcile with Northern leaders.

Titles/Positions: Duke of Georgia
Holdings: Georgia
Politics: Liberty Party
Faith: Presbyterian

Bruh how is Georgia industrializing, economically prospering, and emancipating slaves when it’s a feudalist RP

I also have to strongly object to the characterisation of Savannah as the largest port in the South and the main trading hub, as New Orleans was the largest city in the South at the time, and the port of South Louisiana to this day is still the largest port in the South. Given the circumstances, I don't see that changing as the state leadership's direction towards continued trade primacy has been consistent since the end of the war.

[Sanabel]

Plus emancipating slaves in Georgia at this time would be odd, Georgia was still agrarian and I don’t see how it industrializes after a total economic collapse into feudalism

[Sarderia]

I will answer to Boykin and Colt's posts tomorrow - and OP, please take a look at my new app.

[Dentali]

James Longstreet - (1821- ???)

Account Name: Dentali
Occupation: Duke of Georgia
Motives: Stability of the Empire, Growth of Georgia, Alliance with Stonewall jackson
Background:

General Robert E Lee’s “Old War Horse”, General James Longstreet was one of the best generals of the American Civil War, serving under Lee in the Eastern Theater. He was born in South Carolina in 1821 and raised in Georgia on a cotton plantation. He was sent to school in Atlanta as a boy and was a very active child growing up in rural frontier Georgia. He was coarse and unruly until obtaining a West Point appointment to the United States Military Academy in 1838.

Longstreet was a poor student graduating in the bottom third of his class when he graduated in ‘42, after which he served in the US military. He saw action in the Mexican-American War, serving with distinction in a number of battles. After which he married and had 10 children. He would serve in numerous frontier posts fighting natives american tribes and in 1861 was a paymaster for the United States Army.

He was against the secession but after the Battle of Fort Sumter he resigned his commission and joined the Confederacy. During the War he served with distinction under General Robert E Lee becoming his most trusted commander and rising to the rank of Major General. He played a key role in the victory at Gettysburg and subsequent campaigns, remaining on the strategic offensive and the tactical defensive.

After the war he stayed in command for a short period before retiring back to Georgia where he received a hero’s welcome. And after the South began descending into feudalism he ran for Governor and won the popular vote. The incumbent Governor declared himself Duke of Georgia and refused to concede, which Longstreet answered by raising an army of Civil War veterans to overthrow him.

Longstreet has been Duke of Georgia since 1870 and has led the state to much prosperity compared to the rest of the Confederacy. Savannah has grown greatly as a trade hub for the Confederacy and Georgia itself has become a Constitutional Monarchy. Longstreet has done his best to stay out of the struggles outside of Georgia and has married off most of his 10 children to secure vital alliances in the state.

While the state is still largely agrarian Longstreet has made efforts to industrialize and while by no means ideal, its industrial power is stronger than most other states and is growing. While Longstreet supports the emancipation of slaves it has proved politically impossible, he has however been able to secure a great many rights and privileges for the enslaved beyond what most other states have done, and he has been slowly building support for emancipation.

Militarily his standing army has atrophied with his focus mainly being on the economy, but the navy has remained strong in order to protect Georgia’s trading empire. He has expressed frustration with the Emperor on several occasions and in general was disapproving of his rule, but he hopes a new generation might change that.

He has a wife, 10 children and 3 grandchildren with more on the way. He is well loved and respected by the military and merchant class but has a tenuous relation with the plantation owners in his state.

Titles/Positions: Duke of Georgia
Holdings: Georgia
Politics: Liberty Party
Faith: Presbyterian

[Union Princes]

yeah, we need to make it clear that industrialization in the Deep South will be met with stiff resistance from the nobility. Longstreet is gonna have to jump through a lot of hoops to get where he wants to be, same with everyone else playing the nobility.

Characters like Colt and Rockefeller are a good way to boost industrialization but since we're gonna be approaching the Gilded Age, it will be extremely dangerous for businessmen to accumulate more wealth and political power than the Dixie aristocrats. So TREAD carefully.

[Dentali]

yeah, we need to make it clear that industrialization in the Deep South will be met with stiff resistance from the nobility. Longstreet is gonna have to jump through a lot of hoops to get where he wants to be, same with everyone else playing the nobility.

Characters like Colt and Rockefeller are a good way to boost industrialization but since we're gonna be approaching the Gilded Age, it will be extremely dangerous for businessmen to accumulate more wealth and political power than the Dixie aristocrats. So TREAD carefully.

I plan on the majority of his character arc being struggling with plantation owners. And he has married off most of his kids to secure their loyalty

[SangMar]

How’s travel being handled RP-wise? Given the distances and technology involved?

[Northern Poland]

I'm interested in this RP, very unique! I was thinking of a character like "The Generalisimo of Alabama" Something like a General in charge of the state, Instead of a King? Y'know, something like Texas when they got separated from the rest of the Confederacy. Would that be alright?

[Vienna Eliot]

I'm interested in this RP, very unique! I was thinking of a character like "The Generalisimo of Alabama" Something like a General in charge of the state, Instead of a King? Y'know, something like Texas when they got separated from the rest of the Confederacy. Would that be alright?

I would approve of that. I assume they would’ve been originally appointed by the Emperor? Or did they perhaps assume power by force and then receive a nominal appointment? Or, further, perhaps they’re a holdout from the Empire. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

How’s travel being handled RP-wise? Given the distances and technology involved?

I believe horse and carriage was the preferred mode of transit at the time. After the coronation festivities conclude, we’ll jump ahead a week or so.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

There is an absolute bevy of characters as whom, I'm surprised, no one has yet applied. Nathan Bedford Forrest, Raphael Semmes, Judah P. Benjamin, Earl Van Dorn, J.E.B. Stuart, Wade Hampton III, William Quantrill, Jesse James, Bloody Bill Anderson, and John Mosby come to mind immediately. They would absolutely be power players in this scenario and each have an extremely unique personality and rich history off of which to build, so if anyone is thinking of applying, I would recommend one of them.