1906: Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC-CLOSED]

[Tracian Empire]

Oof, I don't remember there being such issues on a tablet - but I stopped using a tablet for NS stuff years ago.

If it helps you, you can simply tell us what you'd want to reserve in a simple post and we can discuss it.

The land near the green (russia) i think it was the balkan (romania or just balkan)i want that as the United Republic of Noerstonland (it was a total failure in NS so i abandone it)

Yeah, hmm, that might not work. This is a realistic alternative history roleplay - so you can't use NS nations here. Claims need to be based on real life nations and concepts that existed at some point.

[Kazarogkai]

Full Nation Name : The Adamite Iron Order
Majority/Official Culture : Adamites(Welsh, with small elements of English, Breton, Manx, and Scottish.
Territorial Core :

Territorial Claim :

Capital City : Atlanta(IRL Atlanta,Georgia)
Population : The population is roughly about twice that of what the region had during the same period in IRL but I considered that reasonable considering the vastly different circumstances both politically and economically. Namely the area is a lot more industrialized. I gave the nation a population doubling rate, about every 25 years, on par with the United States of the period. Though unlike the USA, post first quarter of the 19th, said population growth was maintained via natural growth(native born) rather than via large scale immigration. The predominant cultural attitudes that caused European Fertility Rates to steadily decline during this period unlike in the USA never transplanted over into Adamia hence the Maintenance of the aforementioned natural population growth.
1775 750,
1800 750,
1825 1500,
1850 3000,
1875 6000,
1900 12000,
1906 14,880,000 (Current)
1925 24000, (In theory)
Government Type : Stratocratic Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Expansionist(The Revolution will not be contained),Militant, Siege mentality
Government Focus : Maintaining independence, the liberation of the america's from old world colonialism, the destruction of monarchism, spreading the Revolutionary society and it's ideals from sea to shining sea, and finally but certainly not least fighting the good fight in the name of heaven and are father god almighty.
Head of State : The Grand Committee
Head of Government : Speaker Moses Hall
Government Description :
The Government of the Iron Order is an odd one similar in many regards to but also diametrically opposed in many regards to it's republican brethren drawing in characteristics that would in some ways be more familiar to the Autocratic States of the Romans while fusing elements of both into a strange amalgamation that at first glances seems to contradict and at second leaves one bewildered with the byzantine nature of the whole thing. Born from the fires and chaos that characterized the birth screams of the Adamite's National Crusade what came about after victory was something of a weird compromise from the varied and in some ways conflicting interests of the myriad of factions that had been bought together in war and sought and needed to keep the peace when it was all over.

The best way to look at the Government of Adamia is as the pillars of a house. The strongest and most premiere of these by far is the National Parliament, the lawmaking body. Composed of 1728 members divided into 3 subdivisions known as Colleges representing Economic, Religious, and Local communities respectively this body holds the sole power to as mentioned before to make law but also confirm treaties drafted by diplomats, declare war, draft amendments to the constitution(s), appoint the Consuls of the Committees and in general hold the balance of power. Members are not elected but instead appointed by the devolved bodies below them in a sort of tiered democracy system. In the case of the College representing Economic Communities they are appointed from the Guilds, In the case of the College representing Religious Communities they are appointed from the top leadership of each individual confession(Baptist, Pure Saints, etc), and finally In the case of the College representing Local Communities they are appointed from the highest administrative bodies below the national level the Polises(urban) and Shires(Rural). Members of the Parliament serve for a term of 6 years, though they can serve as many terms as they please they cannot serve them consecutively. Minus the Consuls who are appointed among themselves the most highest ranking member of the Parliament is without a doubt the speaker who helps set down the legislative agenda, has the power to censure/discipline members, serves as the head judge in impeachment trials, and is regarded as the leader of the body as a whole. His position while powerful is unsteady bound by the wills and personalities of his fellow MPs who annually(specifically the 10th month of every year) must levy a vote of confidence on the speaker and with it agree on a budget for the next year. If he loses the confidence of Parliament via a proper majority(2/3) his government falls and a new Speaker must be chosen. Concurrently if a budget is unable to be passed within the allotted time, before the year is up, the government as a whole "collapses" and snap elections must take place with all members of the Parliament being term limited unable to serve until a later election.

Going to the proverbial top the executive is comprised of and appointed from members of the National Parliament and consists of small bodies that are known as Committees. These serve as the arms of the Legislative and handle the enforcement of laws and play an important part in the making of said laws too with the initial drafting and debating of laws beginning in the very Committees charged with that area of policy. Trade laws in the Committee of Diplomacy, education in the Committee of Culture, etc. All the various Permanent Committee heads known as Consuls are organized into what is known as the Grand Committee whose membership consists of the aforementioned but also includes the Speaker of the National Parliament and a few officers of the government who have been empowered by the National Assembly notably the Supreme Legates of the various branches within the military. Operating in a Parliamentary manner members of the executive, namely the Consuls and the Speakers, are appointed by and consist of members of the National Assembly as mentioned before and serve at the pleasure of said body. Though technically they do have a official term length consisting of a single year at which they are individually required to face a mandatory confidence vote and by extension pass a budget, if either fails then a new Grand Committee must be appointed and by extension a budget. If either is unable to occur then as mentioned before the government "collapses" and snap elections occur.

The Judiciary is an odd ball of sorts in part inspired by the various principles of the European Enlightenment mixed in with local customs and religious dogma added in The basic structural component of the Judiciary is the Tribunes who are organized into 4 types: Constitutional, General, Tribal, and finally Religious Tribunes. Each one pertains to a specific area of law and has a varied composition based on that but regardless consist of 3 types of members. Jurist, Archons, and Elders. Archons are those of the public who have been recognized and declared themselves as law speakers and are considered experts of secular law in all it's forms. In order to become one one must achieve a doctorate equivalent degree in law in a Guyanese University and declare themselves as an Archon and be vouched on by other Archons upon doing so becoming a member of a local district judicial pool. Jurists are similar to Archons but instead members of the public chosen by them to represent them in judicial affairs and are by extension meant to represent the spirit of the law in contrast to Archons who represent the word of the law. To become a Jurist one must have a university degree in humanities and upon doing so gain followers who are willing to be represented by you on court. Finally their is the Elders chosen from the various Clergymen who form the leadership of the myriad religious groups dwelling within Adamia and represent the religious aspect of law within Adamia. Tribunes are temporary bodies formed via lot on a case by case basis when needed from the various Archons, Jurists, and Elders living within a given area based on the complaint levied by the prosecution upon a defendant. The exception to this rule are High Tribunes who while chosen via lot from eligible members of the citizenry(the aforementioned) have a statutory term of 8 years and serve in permanent bodies as a sort of high court of last appeal. Unlike the previous Tribunes who only consist of about 12-24 members max these bodies are composed of 144 members.

The last and final pillar is the Citizenry themselves who consist of the voting members of society. Voter status unlike other more libertine societies is not universal consisting only of men who have completed their military service, reached the age of atleast 24 and finally but not least pay taxes. Upon achieving this at the local level they have a direct say on government due to said government level being run via direct democracy like that of the Athenian Assembly. In addition all citizens can elect the level immediately above that of the sub-municipal level, serve as members of the government without hindrance barring disfranchisement(temporary for convicts, permanent for exiles), and participate in referendums which are necessary for the creation of constitutional amendments. This is not counting the various other rights and privileges laid fourth in the constitution for said citizens of course.

Though the Constitution stresses the importance of the separation between the two premier pillars(the National Assembly and the Judiciary) a certain degree of checks and balances does exist. Specifically the Parliament, both national and local, has the power to Impeach members of the Judiciary for misconduct and not only that set their budget(including pay). Similar the Judiciary also retains the power to impeach members of the National but also Local Parliament and while they lack they power of the purse they do in the form of the constitutional courts have the ability to judicially review and if they see necessary veto laws drawn by the Parliament.

Majority/State Religion : The Brotherhood of Pure Saints(Majority 40%)
Significant Minorities:
Reformed Anglicans(25%)
Baptist(13%)
Methodist(8%)
Mormons(5%)
Unitarian Quakers(5%)
Evangelical Denominations(2%)
Others(3%)
Religious Description :
One of the more surprising aspects of the Iron Order is it's rather jarring religious pluralism. Though The Brotherhood of Pure Saints, known simply as the Pure Saints, are without a doubt the strongest religious grouping forming a solid plurality of the population they do not and have not been able to form a true majority. This explains a good amount of things. When independence was achieved the Pure Saints, the strongest supporters of the National Crusade, as per their religious ideals sought to create a theocratic state in part modeled after their old independent society Lebanon Hill. This was Hindered due to the large presence of other religious groups, namely Reformed Anglicans and Baptist, which had become common within the lands that comprised the Southern Colonial holdings of the British and which incorporated the former territory of Lebanon Hill. Hence they had to settle for a Confessionalist society one in which the various religious groupings had political and institutional power distributed among them in a explicitly religious pluralist fashion. The representation of religious communities in the Parliament's of the nation alongside the establishment of the Religious Courts are the most explicit examples of this. Never the less the Pure Saints are consistently the largest and most political dominant since independence and it's worth mentioning from the time of Lebanon Hill they have consistently been the primary core pushing the nation in the direction that it has gone in and by all indications will continue to do so.

Economic Ideologies: State Capitalist, Georgist, National-Syndicalist
Major Production: small arms, artillery, steel, commercial ship building, textiles, glass, concrete, fish, tropical fruit, timber, livestock, agricultural implements, mining equipment
Economic Description: The overall system is a rather strange breed quite unique for the world they live in. The majority of the factors of production in terms of both the tertiary, secondary, and the primary sector are run along syndicalist/communal lines with all business organizations above the family being in effect required to be run on cooperative lines with all members benefiting more or less equally and running it as such along democratic lines. Said cooperatives range in size from a single factory all the way up to large nationally run federations known as guilds run via a council based delegate system in a manner along the lines of the aforementioned faction's political system. With delegates from below electing those from above. Said guilds receive direct representation and are technically incorporated into the national government to help create overall policy.

On the otherhand elements of state socialism do persist with certain strategic resources like precious metals and even whole industries like arms manufacturing being a state interest and being the principle element. These are meant to be used to help the nation as a whole but are also found quite significant sources of revenue especially the aforementioned arms manufacturing with said weaponry produced being typically sold to various government approved armed revolutionary groups that prove a menace to many nations present in the new world. This has earned them quite a bit of hate despite efforts to keep it on the down low. The socialist element also comes into play to some degree due to despite the fact that Adamia is technically a market based economy the government does provide a tremendous role serving as the main regulator of the whole chaotic morass and safe guarder of consumers and workers health. This is rather heavily exemplified by the incorporation of the various Guilds, national cooperative federations and major industries, into the government to represent their interests and providing the government a way to help influence and direct the overall flow of the economy.

One important factor to consider is natural resources namely Land, Water, and Air. These three are regarded as the providence of all members of the community and hence are organized and considered to be under community ownership though individuals and their families have the right to manage said resources so to speak. In effect this means that local governments, namely municipalities, are given the duty of administering said resources with said duty being their principle job and the rent derived from the use of these resources being forming the majority of their revenue.

Elements of protectionism are at play primarily serving to protect from foreign competition who might flood the local market with cheap goods and thereby destroy the still rather fragile industries that comprise Adamia. Despite this the country is rather reliant on exports, most notably decent quality steel and alongside that weapons due to the rather small population and hence small market that is Adamia being insufficient to properly sustain the continuing industrialization of Adamia alone in spite of talk of and a desire for autarky by the government. This is kinda the dirty secret of the whole thing and hence the sever effect their isolation has had on their economy resulting in it being known as a rather poor country both in raw size and in per capita manners.

Development: Semi-Industrialized
Development Description : Though the elements of Industrialization came into play sometime in the post war period is didn't really hit off properly until the latter part of the 1820s. Compared to most nations it was largely a state based initiative due to the rather weak capitalist class present. The initial focus was a two fold mix of the need for arms to equip the armed forces but also a need to feed and connect the growing population. The end result has been a rather excessively specialized system whose primary focus is centered on supporting the other 2 sectors of the economy the service and agriculture rather than being an independent and principle body of the economy in it's own right. One of the principle manufactured goods for example is agricultural and mining equipment to better allow for greater resource extraction(primary sector), another example is the arms manufacturing used to equip the military(service sector). Hence most of it's industry is categorized as being light rather than of the heavy variety and overall exports principally derive from the agricultural sector with only surplus production from the secondary sector being exported in rather sparing amounts. Still for a what is regarded as a rather small and poor new world nation it's still pretty good in areas where it does focus on namely being one of the premier arms manufacturers and producers of steel in the world with Adamite guns and steel being found all over the place ranging from the bummest parts of non-colonial Africa to equipping the armies of other new world nations too poor to have their own significant development in that regard.

Army Description :
Derived from the various militant bands forming the military confederation that ultimately helped wage the Nations over 2 decade long struggle for independence. Coming out of that formative forged in fire moment what came out was a battle hardened and disciplined fighting force that had a reputation for tenacity and absolute bullheadedness. Since Independence all the way into the present era that reputation in many ways was preserved during the course of the past century by the force that forms the Iron Legion of the Adamite Holy Phalanx. Abroad they helped spread the revolution far and wide; at home they defended the nation in it's darkest hours in the face of numerous invasions. Over the past century or so of it's existence Adamia has seen little peace. Whether it was engaging in small to medium scale expeditionary conflicts all way to the numerous attempted invasions on Adamite soil both by their former colonial master but also via their neighbors and other powers seeking to curb the rabid dog of the West. This has led to a nation and by extension military fueled by paranoia and an almost palpable hatred for all who dare oppose them.

In the eyes of many they come off as an unsophisticated and brutish lot only slightly above the quasi-bandit force that birthed it. But one mustn't make the mistake of taking the Iron Legion lightly. This is an army that has since it's earliest years been bloodied and battered but never truly bowed by any nation seeking to restrain them, atleast when fighting on their own lands. Despite on numerous occasions being forced to face against forces greater in both power and technology and in all conventional manners the Iron Legion have always persevered with a dogged determination bordering on outright fanaticism that has both appalled but also awed those who have been force to face it. From a strategic standpoint overall the central theme has been best summed up as "Nation at Arms". Men from the time they are boys are immersed in a martial culture that starts at home and continues unto death supported by and actively encouraged by the State. In many ways they view themselves as the successors of Sparta more so than Athens. Civilian Gun ownership is not only encouraged but viewed in many ways as a collective duty with all households being required to maintain atleast one firearm within their mist to aid in the quick mobilization of forces. All this and more combined creates for the enemies of this nation what by all indications is a tough hard fighting force very much capable of throwing above it's weight. The reputation of Adamite troops in many ways proceeds themselves creating in many ways an aura of fear as some of if not the best troops this side of the Atlantic.heir absolute brilliance on the defense, their long military traditions despite their young age, tremendous amounts of experience fighting in conflicts abroad, almost fanatic morale and fervor and brutality displayed by their regular enlisted, and near constant state of conflict with their neighbors since independence has allowed them to earn this reputation the hard way. Their forces have earned respect but also a tremendous amount of fear due to their rather infamous history of brutality actively encouraged and cultivated by Adamite commanders since time immoral. Their have been cases throughout the history of this world when faced up against Adamite troops over the horizon bearing down upon them with the heads of dead enemy soldiers proudly displayed as trophies on their belts, war paint slathered across their skin, white uniforms glistening in the sun, the black and white banners they fly proudly, and the war howls of the Legionaries sensing blood in the water lesser forces have been made to rout rather than facing them in the open. On the battlefield the focus is on powerful but rigid mass troop formations centered around aggressive maneuvers and attritioning the enemy into submission. The Strategy as a whole atleast in a conventional large scale conflict is simply the micro translated to the macro more or less. This being with the best of their abilities to make use of the advantages of being a small highly organized state to overwhelm larger more disorganized states. Namely the ability to quickly and consistently mobilize and put men on the field in a relative superior speed, overwhelm existing forces on the ground inflicting as much pain and destruction as possible on the enemy while going at it, and finally when it's all said and done taking and holding what they can letting the enemy bleed white trying to take it back. While brutality and fanaticism by the rank and file have always been encouraged strict command and control is still exercised, enforced in part via a mixture of fear but also brutal discipline on the part of both Officers and NCOs. Infantry are the main foundation with a sorta belief that hard determination and elan are enough to bring victory, which can lead to mass casualties, but Artillery is also well regarded and considered an essential component. Cavalry on the otherhand in many is kinda the ugly stepchild. Due in part to the nature of the formation of the Iron Legion Cavalry were never a particularly major part of the whole thing. Unlike the powerful Cavalry formations of their many enemies the Adamite's have never really regarded nor treated their Cavalry as little more than highly mobile skirmishers leading to a significant and arguably excessive focus on the former two.

Forming the very backbone of this whole thing is their system of Universal Conscription. Though not full implemented until the 1825 army reforms elements of it were present throughout much of the history of the lands of Adamia notably during the initial Settlement of Lebanon Hill in which as per law all men of age were legally members of the Militia required to in times of need to defend the Settlement as a whole from attack. All men upon completing of Secondary School at around 20 years of age are unless a university deferment has been granted required to present themselves for inspection at the nearest Military Barracks to begin their service of 2 years as Velites(Conscripts). Upon completing said service all men are given the choice to either become Crusaders(Professionals) or join the Militia as Hoplites(Allotment Troops) at which point they will over the years till reaching the age of 60 be required to intermediately serve for short periods of time in peacetime and be compelled to serve in times of war when need be. While economically costly and difficult to administer it has led to what can only be described as a national force bringing together the men of the nation from all walks of life into a single institution regardless of class or position and helping and molding these men into brothers in arms. Serving an important role similar to Public Education as an organization that engages in the all important task of social engineering.
Army Weakness :
Though they do the best with what they have with the Adamite state spending on the level of a quarter to a third of the governments total budget, equaling somewhere in the ballpark of about 10% of the total GDP in peacetime, but even then the Iron Order isn't the most wealthy state with their very isolation being a crippling affliction in it's own right and hence even at their best they can only in terms of money reach a level that is best classified as subpar by the most wealthy and powerful. The bulk of what weaponry they do have is aging and in some cases is outright obsolete. In this time of tremendous change the best they can usually do is match but never exceed the great powers of this world. While in core areas(like infantry weapons and artillery) they have shown the capability to match or atleast keep up with the powers that be in other more new arenas they aren't even trying. Notably they are making no significant strides in new and more modern methods and technologies that are either here(Submarines, Grenades) or on the horizon(Automobiles, Planes). This will not be a nation that will be making a dreadnought let alone be the trendsetter in the greater scheme of things. At best they can match the proverbial bar but never exceed it. In terms of infrastructure Adamia has shown itself to be a reasonably solid nation building an extensive network of roads, canals, and rail to cover much of the populated regions of the Iron Order. This has allowed them them to supply and maintain their forces throughout the entirety of their lands, whenever they leave such is not always the case though resulting in them having difficulty in terms of sustainment outside their territory. This in part has a lot to do with the overall experiences of the Adamites. Throughout their history large scale conventional military operations have mostly been defensive in nature; in contrast the majority of offensive operations have been comparatively small scale involving small units of Legionaries supporting forces composed of local auxiliaries. Great when defending their nation but lacking in power projection so to speak. Probably the biggest problem in general though has to do with the military being so political. In order to keep control and in general prevent a coup certain precautions have been made especially towards the officer corps that could be argued have resulted in a severe issue in terms of efficiency and competence. Things like Political Commissars and the use of civilian courts to try military personnel in peace time and in some circumstances wartime and the tremendous emphasis placed on civilian control of the armed forces leads to much of the officers being barely above that of political cronies who are more interested in keeping their necks than being the best that they can be and hence are lacking in terms of things like personal initiative, lest they be seen as a nail that needs to be hammered down, and are rigidly procedural leading to a force largely devoid of much in the way of innovation outside weapons procurement to some degree. In terms of equipment though regarded in many areas as being brilliant by foreign observers from the Regimental level downward most of their weapons tend to be previous generation and they have a tendency to fall behind other nations while only barely keeping up at the best of times. Troops though well trained and disciplined the cult of elan that pervades the thinking of much of the military is sometimes emphasized to a detriment. Soldiers in battle are known for and expected to hold their ground and refuse to retreat or surrender even when it would be best to do so, and their commanders tend to place a too great emphasis on mass infantry tactics which can lead to heavy losses which honestly they can't really afford too much considering their opponents. Tactically their forces are a heavy footed lot never quite having mastered the more subtle aspects of warfare lacking in areas like small unit tactics and the like. Mix that in with a reputation for brutality leading to a force with issues related towards hearts and mind in the eyes of those living outside Adamia. Overall a heavy unwieldy, and in many ways a limited force but with a well earned reputation of punching above it's weight.

Naval Description :
Always the one playing second fiddle to the Iron Legion the Adamite Navy has throughout it's history never amounted to much more than a supporting member of the overall military complex. Primarily a green water force centered around securing it's vast coast line and maintaining control and influence along major river ways and to a degree exerting influence on the nearby Caribbean sea. In terms of Blue Water operations it's been almost entirely limited to a mix of defending what few trade routes the Adamites maintain and by extension ferrying and supporting the Iron Legion over the course of many foreign expeditions. To summarize it mostly specializes in things like shore bombardment, river/coastal combat and various activities designed around supporting the land units.
Naval Weakness :
Lacking in both Battleships and heavier craft that have become the staple of powers within this era the Navy is fundamentally a limited force that has never really shown any substantial capabilities outside of limited circumstances. At the end of the day they always ends up at the bottom of the bucket in terms of funding and get only the scraps of whatever the Iron Legion has taken in terms of the conscription pool. Hence it tends to be were the rejects and losers of society end up and has a reputation that is accordingly as such. Compared to the Iron Legion the reputation of the Navy has never even come close to even equaling that of their peers barely having the ability to even project power within the Caribbean let alone the Atlantic. As mentioned previously this is a force while decent enough on the coasts and brown water zone is not doctrinaly designed with stand up fights at sea. It's ships are lightly armored and under gunned and typically are running with outdated engines limiting them even further. While the Iron Commonwealth does have a decently strong Ship Building industry allowing them to produce a significant number of lighter craft they lack the expertise and material to make larger ships needing to rely on fundamentally older and outdated models that in most nation's navies would have long ago been scrapped for parts.

Distribution of Forces
446,400 active personnel: 148,800 Velites(conscripts),148,800 Hoplites(allotment troops),148,800 Crusaders(professionals)
1,041,600 2nd line(Organized Reserve)
1,488,000 3rd line(Unorganized Reserve)

The Iron Legion 360,000
A Organization
a Western Front 16

- 2 Artillery Chapter
- 1 Cavalry Chapter
- 13 Infantry Chapter
- Total Per. 120,000 men + 660 guns

b Northern Front 8

- 3 Alpine Chapter
- 1 Artillery Chapter
- 4 Infantry Chapter
- Total Per. 60,000 men + 330 guns

c Eastern Front 8

- 1 Alpine Chapter
- 1 Artillery Chapter
- 2 Cavalry Chapter
- 4 Infantry Chapter
- Total Per. 60,000 men + 330 guns

d Southern Front 6

- 2 Cavalry Chapter
- 4 Infantry Chapter
- Total Per. 45,000 men + 180 guns

e Central Front 10

- 2 Artillery Chapter
- 1 Cavalry Chapter
- 7 Infantry Chapter
- Total Per. 75,000 men + 480 guns

B The Adamite Navy 60,000
- 12 Coastal Defense Columns = 336 Guns
a Warships = 240

- 2 Battleships
- 2 Heavy Cruiser
- 4 Light Cruisers
- 20 Destroyers
- 20 Frigates
- 12 Monitors
- 60 Torpedo Boats
- 60 Gun Boats
- 60 Auxiliary Vessels(Mine layers, Tug boats, etc)

C Capital Guard 15,000

- Outer Guard 7500 men + 60 Guns
- Inner Guard 7500 men + 60 Guns

D War Department Staff 11,400

a Division of Logistics
b Division of Personnel Affairs
c Division of Planning
d Division of Operations

National Goals :
- The Destruction of old world colonial presence, most especially that of the Romans who lie nearby
- The expansion of the Iron Orders Revolutionary ideals and philosophy to surrounding lands
- Gaining military strength relative to their neighbors to secure the revolution at home
- Establishing a hegemonic authority over surrounding lands if possible.
National Issues : Being a rather isolated land of rabid protestant exiles that remains largely unrecognized by much of the civilized world is a rather huge one. The economy is also rather poor and struggling to keep up with their neighbors hence their is a need to fix that.
National Figures of Interest :
- Amos Dawnhall, Founder of Lebanon Hill, Prophet, Statesmen, Educator, Deceased
- Michael Clay Founding Father, Soldier, Politician, Deceased
- Lawrence White, Founding Father, Carpenter, Politician, Deceased
- Red Hand, Founding Father, Maroon Chief, Deceased
- Jacob Stone, Founding Father, Reformer, Former Convict, Soldier, Deceased
National Ambition/Aspirations : The general hope is to bring an end to old world dominance of the new world and see to it the independence of the entirety of the continent and with that the expulsion of the false church known as the Chaldenions from these virgin and pure shores and ultimately the spreading of the Revolutionary Iron Order's ideals far and wide even at the expense of their neighbors.

History :
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=482272&p=36888715#p36888715

RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=463498
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=348283&p=25335065&hilit=Cornelius+%22Cannibal%22+Willow#p25335065
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=326874&p=23421024&hilit=Cornelius+White#p23421024
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[Tracian Empire]

I will formerly drop my previous reservation pertaining to my sorta Fading Madagascan Thalassocratic Gunpowder and will be more or less reapplying as my Previous nation of Revolutionary Guyana albeit this one will be a bit different. Located in North America as a former English Colony similar to their Northern Brethren gained independence and were consumed by the fires of revolutionary inevitably evolving into what can be possibly described as a sorta Proto-National Syndicalist Christian theocratic hyper aggressive military regime of sorts. Should contrast nicely with the Revolutionary compact and their seemingly more Pacifistic Libertarian society.

Reservation

Nation Name: The Iron Order of Adamia
Territory: (Image)
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.

The claim is accepted, forgot about it oof

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Never rped with either of them so I'm not gonna bet on their personalities being anything more then "fuck it, let's split him" and then get invaved by both the strongest militaries in the game at the same time. Poland 39' but a hundred times worse.

You could try and have Angelond guarantee your neutrality if it comes to that. If that happens though, then it's clear that some things never change even when its alternate history lol.

Time to roll the episcipal armies in xD

[Kuvukiland]

The land near the green (russia) i think it was the balkan (romania or just balkan)i want that as the United Republic of Noerstonland (it was a total failure in NS so i abandone it)

Yeah, hmm, that might not work. This is a realistic alternative history roleplay - so you can't use NS nations here. Claims need to be based on real life nations and concepts that existed at some point.

Aaand i actually have wonder if romania was a republic or the balkan was united and never do what they always do.is that good?

[Tracian Empire]

Yeah, hmm, that might not work. This is a realistic alternative history roleplay - so you can't use NS nations here. Claims need to be based on real life nations and concepts that existed at some point.

Aaand i actually have wonder if romania was a republic or the balkan was united and never do what they always do.is that good?

I'm not sure if you understand the concept of this roleplay, and I'm not sure how to explain it.

[Plzen]

This suspiciously leaves out the two historical crusader states which form the basis of german claims in the area.

Well, any remaining historical bitterness over the Teutonic and Livonian Orders of the Sword are, frankly, none of my business. Between the two of us there’s only Estonia to discuss.

Talk to Russia?

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Small change to my app:

• 1885 AD: After having reformed the tattered Royal Württemberg Army and proclaimed the Kingdom of Swabia, the Swabian King sets out on the construction of a new, modern line of defense in the west so as to not suffer the same fate as the Grand Duke of Baden did before and lose his newly acquired territories. The King puts the best and brightest mind of fortress construction to work, throws immeasurable sums of money at the problem (much to the chagrin of the Royal Army which in turn is left dusting off its old equipment) and forces thousands of local workers to construct his glorious new defensive line for salaries that don't even keep them from starvation and force their wives and children into the industry to cope.
• 1905 AD: The new, modern defensive line along the lower Rhine is completed and dubbed the "Rheingraben".

This suspiciously leaves out the two historical crusader states which form the basis of german claims in the area.

Well, any remaining historical bitterness over the Teutonic and Livonian Orders of the Sword are, frankly, none of my business. Between the two of us there’s only Estonia to discuss.

Talk to Russia?

Eh, Russia doesn't mention the Baltics in their app so I assume all is as it was historically with the odd tweak or two coming from me.

[Reverend Norv]

Even France - with four centuries of democratic elections under its belt, and labor unions represented in its Senate - looks at these two left-wing republics on the American East Coast, and pats itself on the back for its moderation.

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name :
ENGLISH
Western Roman Empire
Latin Empire
Holy Roman Empire
ITALIAN
L'impero romano d'Occidente
Il Senato e il popolo romano
DALMATIAN
Saran e Suant Impero
I depotuti e el poplo viaspro
Juan Raigno

Majority/Official Culture : In official terms, the official terminology used is "Romani", a counterpart to the Eastern "Romaic". The Westerners pride themselves on their Latin heritage, and exploit it to its full extent. The state does not recognize regional languages, only dialects of "Lingua Latina Nova", otherwise called "New Latin" or "Modern Latin". They insist that the Italo-Dalmatian languages are just the natural progression of the Latin language, compared to the "Gallic speech" or the "Hispanic language". Natives will often call themselves by local or regional terms, sometimes with classical reference. Some might say "We are Liguri", others might say "We are Etrusci" or "We are Tusci", and so on. Interestingly, the African Latins have adopted the name Punici for themselves, in contrast with the remaining Punic speakers centered in Libya, who are called Cartaginesi.

The Western perception of Romanitas varies from the Eastern one in some ways, but aligns in most. It is not necessarily fixed to any particular ethnic group, but it is more pluralistic in forgetting religious boundaries as well. In Italy, a mosaic of Christendom exists, with Catholics, Orthodox concentrated in the South, some traces of Arianism in the North, all conflicting with the Caesaropapist question of whether the emperor or the pope should rule the other. This is to say nothing of remnant pagans, or attempts to incorporate the Jews (and, in the same idea, the Carthaginians) for a slew of reasons. However, for political reasons, Latins are given more arbitrary and imaginary points regarding Romanitas, especially in relation to the Greeks. While there is a greater sense that Romanitas corresponds in many ways to a civilization, which any given individual can join, the notion of bloodline from the republic and the older empire still carries extra weight, much to the chagrin of the East.

A more demotic and republican tradition, brought about by the relative lack of courtly grace in the early military government and, just perhaps, a higher confidence in their own Romanitas as Latins, has allowed this more pluralistic view of to flourish over the ages. The relative liberty of the West has led it to pin former atrocities on the East - claiming to the Jews that it was the East which harmed them, and currying their favor through resettlement in somewhat autonomous communities as Carthaginians, just for example. Few attitudes are so universalist as in the East, and thus they are more often opportunistic, relative, contextual, and at times arbitrary. Perhaps the only constant is that 'we' are more Roman than 'them', which especially includes the East.
Territorial Core : You know, plus the additional colonies we talked about
Territorial Claim : Technically, the whole of the original Western empire, and maybe a bit more, but for practicality we can say Gaul and maybe Spain and kinda leave it at that
Capital City : Rome, Rome, Rome
Population : ~49,200,055
35,000,000 (Italy)
3,000,000 (Africa)
5,200,000 (Balkans)
55 (Tavolara)
4,000,000 (Venezuela)
2,000,000 (Caribbean)

Government Type : Exarchate - a nifty way to shorten that it is a militaristic monarchical government that still yet maintains republican overtures and a functioning senate appointed by a vulgar electorate
Government Ideology/Policies : The Latin government puts a heavy emphasis on the preservation of national Romanitas underlying all subject peoples, and the bearing of the Roman spirit through the ages. What this has meant, exactly, is both a strong continuous belief, and highly situational. From the fall of Rome and its recapture by Belisarius, to the Renaissance of later history, ideals have been carried - or so the story goes, anyway. There is no small truth in the fact that this later empire has focused strongly on classicism and neoclassicism across its history, making it highly traditional and conservative, but its traditions are not exactly like those of other lands.

Pulling on Roman roots and helping to be defined by the pluralism that was ancient Rome and that would become the later empire, a sense of pragmatism, relative tolerance, and one might dare say outright humanism was pervasive throughout the conservative circles of Roman society. This was, of course, seamlessly blended with notions of the divine, and a sort of application of rationalism unto the divine and vice versa. For long ago it was said that the difference between Etruscans and Romans was that while Romans believe lightning occurs because the clouds strike, the Etruscans believe the clouds strike that lightning may occur - God is universal, but perhaps predictable, and the universe has rules that bind it. The old Etruscan augurs haven't gone to rest either, with pagan remnants and nominally Christian fortune tellers being popular figures throughout the empire.

And so Roman society works, bound by the belief that any given individual may bear the light of civilization and honor within themselves, and accepting that there are variations to be found that still fit the scheme. Bound by the philosophy and the styles of the ancients, who nonetheless advocated pragmatism and advancement, who were militaristic and yet unafraid to negotiate and make contracts with those who were quite different indeed from them. A society that appreciates earthly things, luxuries, where the money can flow from market to merchant even if they may be a Jew, or a Greek. The Republican tolerance fits just as well into the urban and mercantile nature of so many cities therein.

The union of the divine and the rational, the supernatural and the natural, upholding Christian values alongside Roman ideals, of thesis and antithesis into synthesis, this synthesis is the ideology of the Romans.
Government Focus : The Western Empire is well aware of its legitimacy, as are its neighbors. As an institution, it has stood for many centuries, with the backing of its Eastern parent to support it. It is a powerful regional player as well, and so need not from uncertainty or insecurity try to project itself unnecessarily unto others as some sort of moral crusader. It will dabble where it feels interest, but this is primarily its decision, nobody else's. The main focus, instead, is domestic and civic in nature. Government officials often have ties to business and artistic enterprises, and the imperial government itself sponsors infrastructure such as the periodic upgrading and repair of the Veran Wall, the construction of roads, highways, and sanitation infrastructure like baths and waterworks, as well as paying out pensions and rationing for times of crisis. The church, in its charitable missions and following the advice of a church father or two, throw their support behind these initiatives wholeheartedly.
Head of State : Cesara Alessandra Udina Belisaria
Head of Government : above
Government Description : Originating as a military governorship ruled by the crown in Constantinople, the ravages of time and practicality have rendered this entirely nominal. The title is now more or less hereditary, , with some gaps allowed for the influence of members of court and the senate in choosing or confirming the exact successor. Although the East has influenced the direction of government, a Latin senate still exists elected by the masses and comprising largely people of significant financial or military status, who tend to gain favor through sponsorship and patronage of the arts up to and including architecture. The hard power of the Senate is ultimately limited, but the members thereon are highly influential all the same.

Majority/State Religion : Latin Chalcedonian Christianity, with guaranteed freedom of worship, and significant Jewish and Pagan minorities.
Religious Description : Under the watchful imperial eye, the Great Schism never did manifest as it did in our reality. There is no schism between the Latins and Greeks in theory, though the practice often differs from the theory. The patriarch of Rome, the Pope, still has very significant influence over things, moreso than his counterpart in Constantinople, but the Emperor reigns supreme above all. Significant colonies of Carthaginian Jews exist in Africa, invited to help fill out the area and given a safe place to live with promised freedom from prosecution and including Papal protections. In the distant colonies, there live mixed religious populations, but indigenous American belief systems certainly still exist among the population. Forms of folk belief, magic systems, and sometimes outright idolatry persist in some regions of Italy as well, and especially in Tuscany - this is exacerbated by a revival movement undertaken in the Renaissance by a wave of Neoplatonic scholars like Gemistus Pletho, as well as the spread of popular classical study.

Economic Ideologies : Regulated State Capitalism
Major Production : Dyes, leather, textiles, wines, luxury items, fine and finished manufactured goods.
Economic Description : A specialized economy for turning raw goods into fine things to flaunt, turning water into fine, the Italian economy is quite competitive and broadly prosperous, albeit highly specialized. They are known, at the moment, for hand-built and fine-tuned machinery (as compared to mass-production, industrialized machines), exquisite leathers, and promulgating locally-dyed and embroidered Byzantine silk to the Western market. These all come in both individual or 'raw' components, as well as finished products. Wines are only another thing on the list, with some speculating that the Western Empire simply creates the most wine in the world per unit of volume. Colonial economies are a bit different, much more agriculturally focused, and modeled in part on the Roman colonia, giving gifts of land as reward for state service and promoting the birth of farmlands in these new territories, and largely with intermixing of Roman and native populations and the growing of native crops. It is, in a sense, an overseen development of a region, rather than specifically the resettlement of a people or the replacement of another. Resource extraction is important, but these would be viewed perhaps more effectively as farming and trade colonies, rather than for the sole purpose of pure extraction.

Development: Modern
Development Description : The Western economy and industry has adapted well to the ages. Although the appreciation for decadent luxury has led to a great many things being built in a hand-crafted, rather than mass-produced, fashion, the industrial capability is still there all the same. As a foremost power of Europe, the West has had to keep up with the rest of the continent by necessity - and for spite of any reliance on their Eastern counterpart. The troublesome terrain of Italy meant that the old Roman highways were a godsend in times past, as they are maintained today, but alternative infrastructure has been in demand for some time. Where terrain is flatter, trains have sprung up to allow movement, but in no small part shipment across the empire is reliant on waterbound transport, with some limited train lines or highways connecting the Adriatic to the Tyrrhenian. In Africa, sheer size has forced the use of trains across its much more favorable landscape to get from one end to the other.

The Western Empire also excels in the field of sanitation infrastructure, perhaps moreso than others, and has kept up its habits of aqueducts, public baths, sewage, and ensuring access to clean water.

Army Description : The army is a carry-over from the Eastern themata, with military subdivisions and land grants ensuring a localized and battle-ready force is always prepared to be drawn up on the borders. Unlike the Eastern Empire, however, the themata follow regional powers and centers of conflict, conforming to what was, at times, only nominally subject city-based powers. Each city, thus, carries its own military legacy and rivalries. The military is largely modernized, perhaps moreso than the Eastern soldiers, due to proximity to the West and even the legacy of the Latins upon it. Being a frontier region, an exarchate, also gave an early emphasis on military development within it to the court at Constantinople. As a result of the localized military, the army as a whole is generally decentralized and grouped by place of origin, rather than forming large and diverse regiments. The discipline, however, suffers not. They are not often grouped into larger legions incorporating people from more than one region, however this allows a smaller-scale, more squad-based style of warfare similar to how the Romans defeated the Phalanx in antiquity. Malleable and focused.
Army Weakness : The army is highly decentralized and localized, leading to smaller units with less diversity. In this regard, a single squad will rarely be able to perform particularly diverse functions, even if as a formation they are more malleable than rigid lines. Being grouped with their regional fellows might incentivize more camaraderie, it also can take a toll on communities if an entire group is injured or killed. Moreover, it is not an effective offensive force, largely being trained to defend the hills of Italy and the sands of Africa, able to defend and garrison an urban setting well but perhaps struggling to capture it to begin with. Cavalry and reconnaissance is largely left to African auxilia, who often have their own equipment and training, and pose a linguistic barrier much stronger than inter-regional ones suffered by the Italians and Dalmatians.
Naval Description : The navy originated as an anti-pirate measure, but grew with the prominence of trade. Once reliant on the East for naval protection during the Middle Ages, the reunification and consolidation of power in the Renaissance allowed the individual shipbuilding traditions of the maritime cities to conglomerate into a more effective navy. The navy plays a much more prominent role in the West accordingly, and just as well considering the larger need for such a thing. The navy is, for the most part, fairly well modernized, and deals with much of the same equipment as the Eastern one. The ships are strong and well-equipped, the sailors often being recruited or conscripted merchants with generations of seafaring experience. A fully functional blue-water and green-water force, it makes an effective offensive force all the same. Hinterland tribes of Slavs and Albanians, though often somewhat neglected by the West, are valued as a source of marines.
Naval Weakness : The navy must compete with the army in many regards, with many preferring the comfortable life of a garrison at home instead of a working one of seabound patrols. Language barriers among the tribal marines and the 'civilized' mariners can lead to some issues as well. The cost of the fleet is substantial, and is partially subsidized by its role as a Merchant Marine as well. This dual purpose means that trade will suffer more than necessary in times of war, while strictly naval peacetime activities are limited. The ships sacrifice some military capability in favor of cargo space and speed, and might be supported by wooden ships when in need.
Further Military Description : Experimental technology

National Goals : Ascendancy to co-emperorship, perhaps even dominance. Glory and wealth, of course.
National Issues : Having less land and manpower than the East, diplomatic barriers, and not being exactly the best at industry even if technically industrialized. Let's not forget the ever-lasting problem of language barrier.
National Figures of Interest : Tuone di Ragusa, Giorgio da Firenze, Leo d'Arezzo, Antonio Farantouri, Asdruele Barco
National Ambition/Aspirations : Gloria in excelsis populo

History : The Greek general Belisarius was said to have been offered by the Ostrogoths the position of the Western Emperor when he laid siege to them. He accepted, only to turn against his Goths and betray them in the name of the court in Constantinople. For this, he was awarded the title Caesar of the West, reflecting his great accomplishment in battle and his everlasting loyalty to the Empire. He had been made the Exarch of Italy appropriately, and when he could no longer conquer and age beset his old bones, he settled in old Rome with his family. The great city had long since lost its importance, replaced by Ravenna and Mediolanum and other sites, but as the glory of all he knew originated with the city of Rome, it only seemed fitting that perhaps, just perhaps, it be given one more chance. Thus, it was born. Belisarius would live only so long to see the Lombards invade, and to personally drive them away with his son by his side.

Under the rule of the son of Belisarius, Nicephorus, there was conflict with the Patriarch of Rome. Nicephorus Belisarion had known the Greek Rite for much of his life. Furthermore, raised by the greatest general of the empire and mothered by the confidant of the empress, Nicephorus had of himself an ego rivaled only by the breadth of the imperial domain. The Roman Patriarch, who demanded submission and humility in accordance with the Latin tradition, grew to despise the decadent Nicephorus, but never dared to challenge him openly until the year 600, upon which a duel was held between the two. Nicephorus won, and the Patriarch was maimed. In but a few short weeks, he passed- and Nicephorus gained the epithet "Slayer of the Latins", known for his disrespect of the Latin ways. What had began initially as a glorious salvation from the hands of the Goths by a great general had quickly turned sour as the struggles between the Latins and Hellenes were emphasized once more. Rejected by his court, one by one, the Exarch grew anxious. Nicephorus, seeing his peril, married with a Latin woman and had five children with her- this gesture a symbol of the unity he had hoped to bring. Although he continued with the Greek Rite for his life, he took special precaution to help mend the wounds between Latins and Greeks. Naming his children in the local Latin, he passed his throne to his eldest Verus.

Verus, the first "Latin" emperor from his Greek brood, and the first since the collapse of the West near 150 years prior, grew in his life as a proper Latin. He spoke Latin, he dressed Latin, and he celebrated Latin holidays with his Latin court- the Italians had regained their position in the world, it had seemed, until all remembered the true power lay at Constantinople. It was by their grace alone that the breed of Belisarius continued to hold the throne, and by their favor towards his grandfather that Verus was allowed to govern the land. He took measure to ensure his fitness in the eyes of Constantinople- reinstating the old legions and fortifying the Alps being his major accomplishments. The fortification he had built on the Alps became known as the Veran Wall, and would be the first of many, many additions in the area.

Drawing from his predecessor, Honorius celebrated his ascension by adding to the Veran Wall. His additions were few, consisting primarily of nearby barracks to help garrison the wall- it was a gesture of support for the defense of the border, but furthermore connected him to his predecessor. This connection would become important, and the next few kings would all follow suit in making some additions to the Veran Wall, be they towers, extra layers, or even an extension entirely. The original, facing only against the lands of the Bavarii and incorporating the mountains of the Alps to fill gaps, would soon become a wonder in itself. It was also during this time that the refugees taken in from Judea and Samaria were redistributed, with promising programs set forth for them in Africa among the dwindling Carthaginians. Set up among these last Phoenicians, the Jews and Samaritans here converted them and kept their culture alive. Indeed, it began to flourish under autonomous rule. Honorius gifted the Temple Relics to the community, and the city of Carthage was repopulated with this Neo-Punic elite. While some scolded the emperor for his restoration of the Carthaginians, the peace and prosperity it brought to Africa paid itself off in interest. By his death, Honorius was celebrated by his old Senatorial enemies, and a new age of stability came.

Time came and went like the tides of the ocean, but in the year 712, the during the Ides of March, the Exarch Caesar Belisarion Severius dies in Venice after succumbing to his wounds by a Germanic blade. He has yet to proclaim a proper heir, and the unity of Italy begins to fall. His twin sons, Antonius and Nero, each take command of a section of the land. Nero, a brave general by heart, takes station in Venice by his father's bedside- here he garrisons the Wall alongside his men. Antonius, meanwhile, moves to Rome as the first properly administrative, non-military, ruler of the land. The court in Constantinople watches eagerly, as if an experiment, to see which of the brothers takes charge over the other, but neither does. It is in this divided reign that the Illyrian Betrayal happens, and many cities of Illyricum simultaneously declare a league of their own separate from the Italian influence. Nero moves quickly with his army, and warns of the precedent should Antonius let such events pass idly. Although Nero secures the loyalties of the Illyrians once more through 6 years of campaigning, the previous state is never recovered and they retain autonomy. It is in this new autonomy that the Dalmatian language, and its regional identity, begins to develop- as well as acting for a breeding ground for the mercantile city-republics that would come to dominate. A small town, Ragusa, begins to dominate by the end of the decade.

Antonius appeared to have won the battle of the brothers, but in his age his council turned against him. Slain by conspirators and with only a single daughter to claim the throne, the Italian cities followed the example of the Illyrians. The rule of Agrippa was rough, and only through the most cunning diplomacy and the most ruthless military action in conjunction with the elderly Nero was she able to, similarly to Nero, regain the allegiance of the Italians under different conditions. Unlike Illyria, however, the Italians failed to produce a single strong city to overcome and dominate the others - remaining divided instead. This played to Agrippa's favor, and she learned a "Divide and Conquer" tactic that she would later write about in her Codex Italicum. She would marry off her children to the local mercantile nobility, the lesser patricians, of her vassal cities and those of Nero to secure a general allegiance, but this would only serve to strengthen the autonomy of the cities. Agrippa's greatest triumph, however, came in the reconquest of Africa - launched from Sicily, the capture of Carthage was quick and decisive. Contacts in the city, especially the Neo-Punic population that the Western Empire had fostered and promised to, were eager to the Roman aid. From this base, Berber tribe after Berber tribe were bribed to harass the opposition as the legions swept through Libya, with Judeo-Punic connections informing communities to raise their banners in preparation. The Latin and Punic majority was warmed by the return of Roman authority, much to the chagrin of the warlords, as well as their tribes and mercenaries that they'd brought with them. Agrippa's Triumph was said to be legendary, a model for future celebrations of state for centuries to come.

As the world entered into the Middle Ages, the West began to brace for the changing world. While the East struggled against the Eastern hordes, the West was faced with age-old barbarian enemies. Old Roman attempts to maintain control over Caesar's Province in the south of Gaul were losing their effect, the Mohamedan regime seeming to counter Roman influence at every turn. A soft war began, a war of words, of faith, of influence. Meanwhile, to the far north, Frankish warlords slowly consumed both Roman and Muslim influence, spreading barbarity to the corners of Gaul city by city. When a Frank declared himself the new emperor, Agrippa was furious at the Papal response of relative neutrality and even some minor support. Though the debate continued to rage of emperor versus pontifex, it was mostly her gender that was called upon for support of the new Frank. Calling on the support of the Carthaginians and her sons-in-law, her position as the unequivocal leader of the Western Romans was reaffirmed. When it was reaffirmed as such by the Senate, the Pope quieted to a fully neutral position. To avoid any more such disturbances, the unusual circumstance of nominally appointed military governorship having been passed to a woman hereditarily, Agrippa took to law to reaffirm herself and her position. It was thus decreed that, like the Etruscans on which Rome had built itself, the Italians would make official that which had been known since the days of Ulpia Severina, and since Theodora: the rights and dignity of women. Although women were not allowed in the Senate or to participate in its vote, many offices were fully legalized in an official capacity. Thus, no barbarians or treasonous pontifeces could question her leadership.

With the collapse of central authority in Gaul, the Romans made their move once more. With some military conquest, ostensibly to "Restore order" to the region, and a large deal of Soft Power politics. Emperor after emperor, using the weight of merchant connections, injected Romanitas into Occitania. It was said that the people of that region spoke much more proper Latin, quite closer to the Latin of Italy than the barbaric "French" tongue. With his armored legions, the Emperor took to court in that land, sending senators and even himself as a judge to resolve disputes among the petty lords of Occitania. Land disputes between cities, resource rights over fields, guilds here and there, the Romans had an answer for everything. The affirmation of the Roman church in these lands grew stronger by the day, and the French were starting to seem not so bad after all. These wild barbarians had embraced a very Roman sense of things, broadly speaking, and the emperors began to refer to the lands of the French lords as Aeduia, in memory of Caesar's closest allies in his Gallic campaign. The free republics of the empire enjoyed increasing relations, and without an imperial title to threaten them, the emperors grew into it too.

Then came the Crusades. Holy wars to reclaim lost imperial territory for the East. While many in the West initially saw the pleading of the East as something worthy of mockery on stage, the cries of Deus Vult from Rome itself led the way to a turn of opinion. When asked for a show of support for the Crusades, Emperor Valente gave a speech at the Apostolic Palace to get the assembled Italian, Dalmatian, French, Spanish, even African, crowd to roar in approval. So the wars went, the empire focusing its soft power in Gaul, its hard power supporting the East, interrupted only by the rise of a peasant commune in Rome to remove Papal authority from the city. The emperor made a move from Ravenna with his personal retinue to seize Rome from the peasants. With a mixture of negotiation, siege, and threats, the city was recaptured. Instead of handing it back to the Pope, he instead moved the capital to that eternal city - declaring that the people of Rome had spoken, that it was the true heart of everything the West stood for, and that it was long past time to reclaim the city instead of the East's preferred Ravenna or the autonomous Milan. To appease the peasants, however, he also extended the Senatorial vote from patricians to commoners all, even if in practice the patricians were the vast majority of senators regardless. It was in the context of these holy wars to restore lost Roman territory that Africa was reclaimed as well, a more imminent concern for the Westerners, and a triumph was held down the streets of Carthage upon its recapture.

Not all in the Crusades was well, though. The Free Republic of Venice sacked some Dalmatian counterparts, culminating in the sacking of Constantinople and the founding of a rival Latin Empire in the East. Although the Western empire somewhat appreciated the sentiment of the emperor in Thessalonike, the East demanded the support of the West. Sympathizing with the East over its Frankokratia, recalling when such was threatened upon Agrippa, the emperor sent some forces to aid the East in its efforts. In the tradition of Belisarius, the West restored order across Epirus and Hellas, isolating the other Latin Empire from potential allies. When the East won, the West returned its Greek territories, with a few new trade ports established along the way. Venice faced no punishment for its role in the fight. Time marched ever onward.

The fourteenth century was a period of expansion. Influence in Gaul reached a critical peak, and the jurisdiction of the Western emperor was being steadily formalized on a city-by-city basis. As more disputes came to be solved, more influence gained, more tithe sent, the emperors began to twist things to their favor. If land came into dispute, it might go to the West. If a city needed an appointed leader, it fell to a senator to rule. If a war came to be and simply could not be determined, the Western legions helped the side most favorable to them. When the Plague rolled around, this only got worse, as the West grabbed for land and people not under the effects of the vile blight. By the fifteenth century, it began to slow, but any semblance that the Occitans were not under Western dominion was quickly fading. Like the free cities of Italy and Dalmatia, the people of Provincia were brought into the fold as autonomous holdings. In the classic fashion, they likewise began to compete with the Italian and Dalmatian free cities. Mercenary armies flew between them all, as did the daggers of assassins and the ships of great trade. While the previous century saw a rise of the Italians in dominance, the rise of the Rinascimento, a rebirth where Italian powers began to consolidate their countrysides, directly contributed to increasing centralization. Venice, Genoa, Ragusa, Vicla (Veglia), Florence, Naples, and Amalfi together owned the majority of Italy and Dalmatia, and most of the country's wealth. While the classics had never been truly abandoned, the centralization of wealth played a crucial part in the rebirth and the renewal into a neoclassical age.

Over the course of the fifteenth century, the exploratory nature of the Italo-Dalmatians in their previous capital ventures to other lands brought them further and further. By 1492, the first Italian had set foot in the New World. It was under this prospering that the Italians finally began to eclipse the Dalmatians, gaining a factor of exponential growth. However, the line of Belisarius was running thin- the Republican politics had all but killed the Italian half of his line- leaving behind the Viclasun line to take charge. Stemming from Vicla, also called Veglia and, in Latin, Curicum, this unlikely progeny of the great Belisarius through no less than 4 cadet branches had managed to survive purely because their republic had long ago been eclipsed by the nearby Ragusa. Rising to the throne due to their well-recorded, if distant, lineage, the first Dalmatian Exarch went by Domagna.

Domagna Udaina was a ruthless and cunning man. Long suppressed by his neighboring Venice and Ragusa, he gained an enmity for the free republics of the exarchate. Cooperating with the Medici of Firenze, Domagna established a power base in Central Italy, a strong alliance across the land. He first chose to reign in Genoa, who stood distant from the others and with a distrust for their own duxe, the citizens of Genoa sold their city out to Domagna. Using this power base, he reaffirmed the loyalty of the traditionally monarchical Napoli to move on Amalfi. Half of Amalfi's patricians were of Greek origin, and despite a notable military presence, none was needed for Domagna to seize power. His ties to the Greek emperor, as well as his relatively nonpartisan origin, meant a nonviolent swearing of fealty. As Venice made its move against Ragusa, historically held back by the limited influence of the exarch but now with a doge reckless enough to ignore it, their city was invaded under the cover of night. In the year 1543, the "Night of Tears" occurred- Domagna infiltrated Venice with his combined Italian army and wrecked havoc upon the streets. Many of the town guard were slaughtered, and their bodies thrown into the canals. The island flowed in red for 3 days after the fatal event, and the doge was forced to surrender. As he had captured Ragusa and even appointed a new Rector, that republic had been cleared out of the way as well.

Domagna, in his violent reign lasting from 1516-1552, became known as "the Slayer". His son, Jugno, tried initially to rule with a soft hand, but in the second month of his reign realized the error of this. He chose instead, to invite all the dukes of his realm- the duxe, the doge, the rettore, to watch him compete in games. He raced for Blue in chariots, and won a tzykanisterion tournament. The games, lasting a full month on their own, ended with Jugno inviting any patricians who wished to assert their independence a duel to the death for the opportunity. He went so far as to promise his crown to any who would fight him. After the demonstration of his abilities in the games, however, none stood forward. All throughout his life, Jugno would insist the offer was always on the table, and made it to each newly elected duke of his realm. Through such shows of force and fearlessness, as well as his well-meaning heart and his administrative excellence in improving the unity and strength of his realm, the Italians and Dalmatians alike took to calling him agosto, the first Exarch since Belisarius to ever be called by such a title in any capacity.

Jugno would attempt an invasion of Gaul to restore the lost Roman hegemony there. Senatorial support was strong, with Catholic elements wishing to crush the heretics, and an increasing Neoclassical faction inspired by Gemistus Pletho, the lingering pagan peasants in the Italian countryside, and the Rinascimento movement, called to restore Roman rule to Gaul more broadly. They were sort of Latins, were they not? Aeduia, the allies of Caesar? Jugno acted swiftly and decisively, only to be met with a strong and unexpected resistance from a new conglomerated republic. The first war that the Western Romans would undertake as a fully reunified power would test the strength of their unity, and Jugno would die before it finished.

In the chaos of succession, Empress Catarina took the throne only to learn that, without leadership, without certainty, without their unifying emperor, the Veran Wall had been passed, the legions stationed there weakened by their divisions. Rallying up an army in the center, she had the navy attempt to cut off any supply lines while she met the French army on the field of battle over and over again. Facing defeat, she agreed to the humiliating surrender in 1601 to recognize French independence once and for all, at which point she is said to have stated "So be it, the Gauls choose barbaritas". The internal divisions within the country were initially blamed for the defeat, but Catarina shifted the blame to rest on the shoulders of the senate, which had acted in regency at the time of the fall of the Veran Wall. Furthermore, she blamed the Pope for instigating the war in the first place, and exercised her imperial authority to have him removed from office. This was the first demonstration of Caesaropapism in near a millennium, apart from the minor example of the proper annexation of Rome centuries prior. This strengthened the Neoclassical movement, which had been gaining strength since the 14th century, among the elites of Roman society, and Catarina became known as Catarina the Pagan. In the elections of 1605, the senate was a pagan majority. With this pagan majority, Catarina enacted further reforms for the rights of women, teetering the precarious position of the pagans over a vastly Catholic populace. This included conditional female suffrage, for those of the Patrician class and those who acted as the heads of their families. It was said that the 'vote of every man' enacted earlier had been renamed by her to the 'vote of every family', thus by her logic that as the man was not always the head of the family, was not always the main moneymaker, and way not always the most influential, women should gain the right if they meet the conditions. As patrician families had always enjoyed special privileges, and patrician women were more likely to lead families, the suffrage was thus universal for them.

The great changes brought by the Treaty of Pavia and Catarina's rule, her conformity to the Rinascimento, inspired new theatrical and operatic works. Well past her death in 1647, Roman culture flourished. Although the 15th century brought many new and contemporary stories to the stage, this new theater brought grand epics of old, stories of emperors and demigods, classical mythology in total, to life. Names like Hercules and Ovid and Democritus flew at balls and on stage, as well as at convivia and in the senate. This all came to a head in 1755, when a Corsican senator by the name of Pasquale Paoli advocated universal female suffrage. The emperor took kindly, and this law became known as the Livian Reform, after the first empress in Roman history.

It was a golden age. Science, philosophy, and art flew as it never had before, with the printed word spreading these teachings faster than the ancients could've dreamed. The Library of Alexandria was little in comparison. Patricians and imperial family members heartily adopted the patronage system once run by the free republics of the land, while interfaith dialogue between pagan and Christian elites, as well as the Judaized Carthaginians, provided an exceptional home to tolerance in the West. The names of great polymaths were on the tongues of everyone, from the centuries-old work of Leonardo da Vinci, to Leon Battista Alberti, the economics of Luca Pacioli, the observations of Galileo and Zucchi, the shocking discoveries of Volta and Galvani, not to mention contributions by Dalmatians such as Giorgio Armeno, Stefano Gradi, the Nicolas of Nale and of Gozzi, and even from non-Latins such as Ruggiero Boscovich. A true flourishing throughout the 18th century, grounded in the works of the past and the peoples now reviewing them.

This came to a halt with the French warlord, Guerin. He brought a great reckoning to everything Roman. He broke past the Veran Wall, he tore through the north. The Roman army struggled to face him, it turned into a war of attrition. It is said that, as the Roman army continually retreated south, and he followed, his troops were jeered by passing towns. They had not forgotten the humiliation centuries prior, they chanted to them - "Gaulois vont chez", during which a French officer at one point rounded up the men of the village and gave them a lesson in French grammar. One stole the officer's horse and rode south in the middle of this, and from then on the villages they passed near and through told them the same message correctly. The Romans fought all the way to Rome itself, but there too were forced to retreat. The French navy, en route, was crushed by the Italian pride, and his supplies are thereon cut off. Running low, he establishes the vassal republic of Etruria and makes an ordered retreat back past the Alps. With the aid of Eastern troops, he is pushed until gone from Italy, and the French prisoners are triumphed through the the Eternal City that they had terrorized not long ago. It was made explicitly clear to them that, since their republic had declared its full separation from Rome those centuries prior and acted in atrocity against the Romans, that whatever kinship medieval Latins might've felt towards the Gauls was severed, that they had proven their lack of Romanitas through these actions and confirmed the fears of the Italians that the Gauls had not abandoned their barbarian nature after all.

The bloody warlord from France died, and his puppet republic immediately fell into trouble. The emperor, Jugno, sent a letter to them in Etruscan - the language preserved in the dictionaries of Claudius still preserved in Rome - to hold a vote. When it was held, the citizens, remembering their Romanitas, voted Jugno as the new leader. After only a matter of months, the republic was peacefully re-annexed. The French prisoners were paraded through northern Italy, being told to go home by the people of Tuscany, of Genoa, and finally by the border garrison as they were dumped on the other side of the Alps, at the exact spot the wall had been beaten prior. It was, in essence, a "de-invasion".

The 19th century saw much change, but also much the same. The Western Empire never recovered from the invasion, and their golden age ceased. Although classical scholarship of that age's like still continues strongly, the great debates, the treatises, the reports, the convivia, have all been reduced to but memory and ceremony, no longer feeling as if a living practice, but instead on life support. Italian technology began to fall behind, and the empire spent more of its money playing catch-up with the newest inventions, meaning less was devoted to patronage. It was not until the 1850s that the empire gained a more secure position in the world, settling in as a major power once again, if slightly behind the rest of Europe on more than few things. The luxury market was resolidified in its new form of furs, silks, and leathers, as it had been for centuries and yet breathed life anew. As we enter into this new age, perhaps the Romans will try to claim their place once more, or perhaps they will begin once more to fade. Only time will tell if the Romans, both West and East, will see another century yet.
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The history is of course very impressive, and any further details can be hashed out later, accepted! xD

[The Felan Federation]

Full Nation Name : Duchy of Ansburg

Majority/Official Culture : German/(Spanish)
Territorial Core : Central America
Territorial Claim : ---
Capital City : Könighan (Guatemala City)

Population : ~4,1 million

Government Type : Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]

Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
Major Production :
Economic Description :

Development: [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive]
Development Description : [Explain further why your nation is in one of the above categories]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]]
Army Weakness :
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]]
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]

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[Reverend Norv]

Full Nation Name : Duchy of Ansburg
Majority/Official Culture : [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]
Territorial Core : Central America
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]
Capital City : [[Its IRL location and name]]
Population :

Government Type : Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
Major Production :
Economic Description :

Development: [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive]
Development Description : [Explain further why your nation is in one of the above categories]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]]
Army Weakness :
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]]
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]

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Gotta admit, I still don't totally understand what a polity called the Duchy of Ansburg is doing in Central America. But I look forward to finding out.

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name : Duchy of Ansburg
Majority/Official Culture : [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]]
Territorial Core : Central America
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]]
Capital City : [[Its IRL location and name]]
Population :

Government Type : Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]
Head of State : [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]]
Head of Government : [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]]
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
Major Production :
Economic Description :

Development: [Modern, Semi-Industrialized, or Primitive]
Development Description : [Explain further why your nation is in one of the above categories]

Army Description : [[Describe your nation's army in as much detail as you can]]
Army Weakness :
Naval Description : [[Describe your nation's navy in as much detail as you can]]
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]

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Gotta admit, I still don't totally understand what a polity called the Duchy of Ansburg is doing in Central America. But I look forward to finding out.

Exactly my question, it would be great if we'd get an answer Felan

[The Felan Federation]

Gotta admit, I still don't totally understand what a polity called the Duchy of Ansburg is doing in Central America. But I look forward to finding out.

Exactly my question, it would be great if we'd get an answer Felan

It's just a holdout name until I can get some better. But the idea would be to either be a Spanish or German-colony in Central America.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

WIP App, nothing too out of line here?

Royalist Flanders

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Full Nation Name : Royalistisch Vlaanderen (Eng: Royalist Flanders / Fr: Flandre Royaliste / Informal: Clerical Flanders)
Majority/Official Culture : Flemish (Majority Culture), Wallonie (Aristocratic Culture).
Territorial Core :

+ The Congo

Territorial Claim : The Benelux, The Remnants of the Dutch East India Company and the former Dutch Colonial Empire.
Capital City : Brussels (de jure), Antwerp (de facto).
Population : Aprox. 10,752,000

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Government Type : Clerical Republic / Pseudo-Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Militant, Irredentist, Religious (Catholic).
Government Focus : Survival; above all else, the Government of Flanders exists solely to ensure the longevity of the Flemish State. Other goals include the liberation of the Benelux.
Head of State : Gustave Charles Sap
Head of Government : Jules Joseph Pire
Government Description :

The Government of Royalist Flanders operates a Clerical Republic in which parliament is dominated by the long-standing Confessional Catholic Party, otherwise known as the Catholic Block, of which Gustave Charles Sap is the reigning Party Leader of, and thus Prime Minister of Flanders. The Monarchical component of Flanders' Government came into power when the Catholic Block essential replaced the family of Leopold II, naming "Jesus Christ" as their sole Monarch. The Belgian Armed Forces, organised by the predominant Land Component, is essential to the survival of the Royalist State, and therefore it's Commandant, Jules Joseph Pire, has dictatorial powers when it comes to the Governance.

[Tracian Empire]

WIP App, nothing too out of line here?

Royalist Flanders
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Full Nation Name : Royalistisch Vlaanderen (Eng: Royalist Flanders / Fr: Flandre Royaliste / Informal: Clerical Flanders)
Majority/Official Culture : Flemish (Majority Culture), Wallonie (Aristocratic Culture).
Territorial Core :

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+ The Congo

Territorial Claim : The Benelux, The Remnants of the Dutch East India Company and the former Dutch Colonial Empire.
Capital City : Brussels (de jure), Antwerp (de facto).
Population : Aprox. 10,752,000

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Government Type : Clerical Republic / Pseudo-Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Militant, Irredentist, Religious (Catholic).
Government Focus : Survival; above all else, the Government of Flanders exists solely to ensure the longevity of the Flemish State. Other goals include the liberation of the Benelux.
Head of State : Gustave Charles Sap
Head of Government : Jules Joseph Pire
Government Description :

The Government of Royalist Flanders operates a Clerical Republic in which parliament is dominated by the long-standing Confessional Catholic Party, otherwise known as the Catholic Block, of which Gustave Charles Sap is the reigning Party Leader of, and thus Prime Minister of Flanders. The Monarchical component of Flanders' Government came into power when the Catholic Block essential replaced the family of Leopold II, naming "Jesus Christ" as their sole Monarch. The Belgian Armed Forces, organised by the predominant Land Component, is essential to the survival of the Royalist State, and therefore it's Commandant, Jules Joseph Pire, has dictatorial powers when it comes to the Governance.

I'm not all that sure about the name - Royalist Flanders sounds like more of an informal name. The idea of it being a clerical republic is interesting, as is it being Catholic, considering that its neighbors are fanatically Protestant (France) and half-Protestant (Germany).

You'll have to explain how it took over the Netherlands of course, but that's up to the history - one thing to keep in mind though is that Asian powers are just as technologically advanced as European ones in this timeline, so it is very likely that the Dutch East India Company had a different history in this timeline.

[Tracian Empire]

Finally done!

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太平天囯
Tàipíng Tiānguó
Heavenly Kingdom of Transcendent Peace

Full Nation Name : Heavenly Kingdom of Transcendent Peace | Taiping Heavenly Kingdom (太平天囯, Tàipíng Tiānguó)
| Celestial Empire (天朝, Tiāncháo)

I love the concept, and it's an amazing app, accepted!

I'll leave it to you and Oscal to further discuss any potential Asian history questions, but it is very nice to have something like the Taiping in Asia xD

[Reverend Norv]

There's also an ironic twist - and, perhaps, a sign of the ways that even enemies influence each other - in the fact that both Flanders and France formally declare God to be their only monarch.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

There's also an ironic twist - and, perhaps, a sign of the ways that even enemies influence each other - in the fact that both Flanders and France formally declare God to be their only monarch.

^

[Tracian Empire]

There's also an ironic twist - and, perhaps, a sign of the ways that even enemies influence each other - in the fact that both Flanders and France formally declare God to be their only monarch.

The Eastern Roman vision is similar from some point of views, but also overwhelmingly different in its interpretation. The Empire is considered to be the earthly reflection of the Kingdom of Heaven - destined to endure until the Second Coming. God is then of course the ruler of the Empire, most often presented through Christ Pantocrator. But, and this is clearly the biggest difference, the Romans believe that God has entrusted the governance of the Empire to the Emperor, as the Viceroy of Jesus Christ, divinely ordained by the Holy Spirit, the earthly reflection of the Logos of God. The Orthodox Church then teaches that living outside of the borders of the empire is a tragedy for those people, a great misfortune that will one day be rectified by the Providence.

Which would lead to this chant being very popular in Eastern churches

[Axis Asteroid]

There's also an ironic twist - and, perhaps, a sign of the ways that even enemies influence each other - in the fact that both Flanders and France formally declare God to be their only monarch.

The Eastern Roman vision is similar from some point of views, but also overwhelmingly different in its interpretation. The Empire is considered to be the earthly reflection of the Kingdom of Heaven - destined to endure until the Second Coming. God is then of course the ruler of the Empire, most often presented through Christ Pantocrator. But, and this is clearly the biggest difference, the Romans believe that God has entrusted the governance of the Empire to the Emperor, as the Viceroy of Jesus Christ, divinely ordained by the Holy Spirit, the earthly reflection of the Logos of God. The Orthodox Church then teaches that living outside of the borders of the empire is a tragedy for those people, a great misfortune that will one day be rectified by the Providence.

Which would lead to this chant being very popular in Eastern churches

Tfw when your monarch IS God. Get on Taiping's level m8.

[Tracian Empire]

The Eastern Roman vision is similar from some point of views, but also overwhelmingly different in its interpretation. The Empire is considered to be the earthly reflection of the Kingdom of Heaven - destined to endure until the Second Coming. God is then of course the ruler of the Empire, most often presented through Christ Pantocrator. But, and this is clearly the biggest difference, the Romans believe that God has entrusted the governance of the Empire to the Emperor, as the Viceroy of Jesus Christ, divinely ordained by the Holy Spirit, the earthly reflection of the Logos of God. The Orthodox Church then teaches that living outside of the borders of the empire is a tragedy for those people, a great misfortune that will one day be rectified by the Providence.

Which would lead to this chant being very popular in Eastern churches

Tfw when your monarch IS God. Get on Taiping's level m8.

Sadly, punishing anathema with blinding might not be acceptable anymore

[Axis Asteroid]

Tfw when your monarch IS God. Get on Taiping's level m8.

Sadly, punishing anathema with blinding might not be acceptable anymore

The true red pill is accepting that Warhammer 40K was in Asia all along lol.

[Reverend Norv]

That chant is extraordinarily beautiful. Scary if you read the words, at least in my view, but extraordinarily beautiful.

French churches, for the first century or so after the Reformation, only accepted metrical psalms as music. Louis Bourgeois' settings of the Psalms remain one of the earliest cultural achievements of the Commonwealth as an independent state; France's de facto national anthem is his setting of Psalm 33, and French troops traditionally sing Psalm 118 before battle.

[New Demorvian]

Depending on what the history of Royalist Flanders is, this might not work out.

Reservation

Nation Name: The Empire of New Holland
Territory:
Mainland: Southern West Australia, South Australia, Victoria, Tasmania
Slave Colonies: Northern Madagascar, Coastline of Kenya, Island of Zanzibar

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