Tracian Empire wrote:Dahyan wrote:Thanks!
Alright, so you are still accepted - but there is something that I didn't notice when reviewing your app and that we need to discuss, because they might need changes.Dahyan wrote:Further Military Description : Through the "levée en masse" doctrine, which dates back to the French Revolution, every man and woman in France is considered a reservist for active service in case of emergency. All adults are required to fulfill one year of active military service, and even after conscription ends everyone must return for obligatory military training one week a year up until the age of 60.
- First thing is the issue of women in the military. The issue of female soldiers has been hashed out throughout in Discord server due to other players making similar claims, and we concluded that most nations have no standing for liberal gender politics in their militaries, since even in the extraordinary circumstances during rebellions for example, women were only allowed to fight as ad hoc militia to defend a city, otherwise they weren't allowed proper command or allowed to form standing units etc, with the notable exceptions of Taiping, which has significant historical precedent of women actively and openly serving in the military as professional regulars with their own officers, and South America to a more limited degree, which gave official sanction for women to serve as officers in the field without having to hide their gender and so forth. Outside of those two there is no basis for the other player nations having female soldiers of any kind so far, especially with old world nations, and particularly with France, even with the French Revolution, considering it explicitly clamped down on women’s liberation and encouraged a return to traditional gender roles irl. Below is a relevant snippet from Wikipedia.
- Again, this would also extend to the issue of women's suffrage, which unlike Kai's citing of an irl historical event in Corsica that justified universal suffrage in the WRE for example, there is no similar historical basis for the French. Not even the Paris Commune for example, which was the most radical socialist and anarcho-syndicalist government at the time, extended the franchise to women. In fact, French women weren't granted the franchise irl until 1944.
- What we need to take into account is what areas were "revolutionary" irl, and others which are not, since "revolutionary" typically doesn't mean that the slate is wiped clean and all tradition is abandoned. Really depends on the history since some revolutions are more "revolutionary" than others for example like with the October Revolution, which granted women the right to vote, and the Taiping Rebellion, which went even further in regards to radical gender politics. As mentioned above, while the French Revolution was revolutionary in many ways, this did not extend to women, which was true for most of French history, even with the Paris Commune in mind.
- While suffrage could still work provided it's explained properly just like the app of previous French player, Norv, the problem with your app is that it's rooted in the French Revolution, which was decidedly not feminist by any stretch. Based on his history, it seems that the socialist and syndicalist movements have only just risen to power, so if anything, women's liberation and suffrage would be something that follows worker's rights and not something that precedes it by almost 100 years.
So I feel that you could either explain women's rights as a reform latter on in French history, or perhaps have it as an issue that is really popular at the time, which would allow you to roleplay the introduction of these rights ICly.
I admit that 1799 is quite an early date to enact fenale suffrage, in retrospect. Would it be acceptable to push it to the second half of the 19th century instead, as a result of suffragette activism and the rising influence of Socialism and Syndicalism in France at the time?
Regarding the military service, I seem to have made a little lapse in oversight. I meant to indicate that while all citizens are considered reservists in times of emergency, such as an invasion, and are set to be armed and drafted into a popular militia, the standing army is supposed to be all male. Apologies for not making that sufficiantly clear, I'll change it in my application.
