2024: THE LONG PEACE [OOC | CLOSED]

[Greater Redosia]

IEC post is expected to be out next Friday, the following people need to post:
North Korea, China, Spain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Iran, India, Ukraine, Russia, United States

Don't worry comrade, Ukraine will fall in my next post /s

[The Palmetto]

Might be a dumb question, but would developing my agricultural land, modernizing my farming, and overall increasing output cause issues for all my substinence farmers? As food security is ensured, would they move on to other jobs? Or just keep doing what they’re doing?

[Atrilan]

IEC post is expected to be out next Friday, the following people need to post:
North Korea, China, Spain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Iran, India, Ukraine, Russia, United States

Don't worry comrade, Ukraine will fall in my next post /s

You post and Ukraine doesn't have to because his country is dead? I do like two birds with one stone

[Kargintina the Third]

Al-Shaboobies is going down

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

give me money

[Greater Redosia]

Might be a dumb question, but would developing my agricultural land, modernizing my farming, and overall increasing output cause issues for all my substinence farmers? As food security is ensured, would they move on to other jobs? Or just keep doing what they’re doing?

It's most likely that they will stay as farmers since it's been in their lives for generations, making it easier to farm thanks to mechanization might encourage them to actually be more risky in farming by planting different crops or expanding their farms entirely. It has passed down through the family so if anything it might encourage the younger generations and future generations to take up schooling or depending on how strict the families are taking education to improve farming further. Giving you a secure food supply and farmers to work the farms but also a more educated farming community which is more efficient and able to farm not just for themselves but be able to export crops as well.

[The Palmetto]

Might be a dumb question, but would developing my agricultural land, modernizing my farming, and overall increasing output cause issues for all my substinence farmers? As food security is ensured, would they move on to other jobs? Or just keep doing what they’re doing?

It's most likely that they will stay as farmers since it's been in their lives for generations, making it easier to farm thanks to mechanization might encourage them to actually be more risky in farming by planting different crops or expanding their farms entirely. It has passed down through the family so if anything it might encourage the younger generations and future generations to take up schooling or depending on how strict the families are taking education to improve farming further. Giving you a secure food supply and farmers to work the farms but also a more educated farming community which is more efficient and able to farm not just for themselves but be able to export crops as well.

Becoming a net exporter of food and making sure I can feed my country during times of crisis is definitely a high priority, IRL famine is a lot worse in East Africa than it could be because of a lack of infrastructure and education. I certainly have a lot of farmers and arable land, but I have so many and so much it’ll take a while and a lot of money to get a large amount on more modern technology.

One concern of mine is that a lot, if not a majority, of my population simply grows crops for themselves to consume. Obviously, I can’t mechanize and train all of my population, there’s too many, and I can’t afford it either. I’m definitely going to stay a mostly rural country, but I’m concerned I’ll be stuck as one and see my industrial development stagnate.

[Greater Redosia]

It's most likely that they will stay as farmers since it's been in their lives for generations, making it easier to farm thanks to mechanization might encourage them to actually be more risky in farming by planting different crops or expanding their farms entirely. It has passed down through the family so if anything it might encourage the younger generations and future generations to take up schooling or depending on how strict the families are taking education to improve farming further. Giving you a secure food supply and farmers to work the farms but also a more educated farming community which is more efficient and able to farm not just for themselves but be able to export crops as well.

Becoming a net exporter of food and making sure I can feed my country during times of crisis is definitely a high priority, IRL famine is a lot worse in East Africa than it could be because of a lack of infrastructure and education. I certainly have a lot of farmers and arable land, but I have so many and so much it’ll take a while and a lot of money to get a large amount on more modern technology.

One concern of mine is that a lot, if not a majority, of my population simply grows crops for themselves to consume. Obviously, I can’t mechanize and train all of my population, there’s too many, and I can’t afford it either. I’m definitely going to stay a mostly rural country, but I’m concerned I’ll be stuck as one and see my industrial development stagnate.

You could always encourage farmers to merge together into cooperatives, or attempt to encourage the farmers you did train and mechanize to begin buying out other farmers to expand said mechanization and have them work on the farms. Thus they get paid instead of taking the food to eat it, the only way they get paid of course if they make money and the only way the farm will make money is by selling the crops instead of just keeping them.

[Atrilan]

It's most likely that they will stay as farmers since it's been in their lives for generations, making it easier to farm thanks to mechanization might encourage them to actually be more risky in farming by planting different crops or expanding their farms entirely. It has passed down through the family so if anything it might encourage the younger generations and future generations to take up schooling or depending on how strict the families are taking education to improve farming further. Giving you a secure food supply and farmers to work the farms but also a more educated farming community which is more efficient and able to farm not just for themselves but be able to export crops as well.

Becoming a net exporter of food and making sure I can feed my country during times of crisis is definitely a high priority, IRL famine is a lot worse in East Africa than it could be because of a lack of infrastructure and education. I certainly have a lot of farmers and arable land, but I have so many and so much it’ll take a while and a lot of money to get a large amount on more modern technology.

One concern of mine is that a lot, if not a majority, of my population simply grows crops for themselves to consume. Obviously, I can’t mechanize and train all of my population, there’s too many, and I can’t afford it either. I’m definitely going to stay a mostly rural country, but I’m concerned I’ll be stuck as one and see my industrial development stagnate.

The main issue I see is that many of your farms are usually owned by an individual or his family and are more akin to larger gardens than anything else. You could try to do what Brazil did and further open up the market to agricultural corporations from overseas, but there are obvious downsides.

[Kargintina the Third]

Al-Shabaab more like lame-kebab

[The Baton Rouge Free State]

Becoming a net exporter of food and making sure I can feed my country during times of crisis is definitely a high priority, IRL famine is a lot worse in East Africa than it could be because of a lack of infrastructure and education. I certainly have a lot of farmers and arable land, but I have so many and so much it’ll take a while and a lot of money to get a large amount on more modern technology.

One concern of mine is that a lot, if not a majority, of my population simply grows crops for themselves to consume. Obviously, I can’t mechanize and train all of my population, there’s too many, and I can’t afford it either. I’m definitely going to stay a mostly rural country, but I’m concerned I’ll be stuck as one and see my industrial development stagnate.

The main issue I see is that many of your farms are usually owned by an individual or his family and are more akin to larger gardens than anything else. You could try to do what Brazil did and further open up the market to agricultural corporations from overseas, but there are obvious downsides.

Yah I don't think thats such a great idea, tbh small scale agriculture is better than industrial, it employs more workers and is miles more efficient.

[Atrilan]

The main issue I see is that many of your farms are usually owned by an individual or his family and are more akin to larger gardens than anything else. You could try to do what Brazil did and further open up the market to agricultural corporations from overseas, but there are obvious downsides.

Yah I don't think thats such a great idea, tbh small scale agriculture is better than industrial, it employs more workers and is miles more efficient.

What? How are you saying that small, diverse farms produce more yield than huge, unitary megafarms?

[The Baton Rouge Free State]

Yah I don't think thats such a great idea, tbh small scale agriculture is better than industrial, it employs more workers and is miles more efficient.

What? How are you saying that small, diverse farms produce more yield than huge, unitary megafarms?

In the 1980s small farms produced over a quarter of Chinas food despite only take up less than 10% of farmland. This is because small farms and far easier to tend to and produce much larger yields than factory farms when given modern equipment and proper training.

[Atrilan]

What? How are you saying that small, diverse farms produce more yield than huge, unitary megafarms?

In the 1980s small farms produced over a quarter of Chinas food despite only take up less than 10% of farmland. This is because small farms and far easier to tend to and produce much larger yields than factory farms when given modern equipment and proper training.

I mean that doesn't exactly support the blanket statement "small-scale agriculture is far more efficient than megafarms." Though to be fair, in the case of the EAF it's probably more effective to develop his current small-scale farming more; mostly because of the issue with unemployment caused by megafarms. As far as I'm aware, one of the big issues with agriculture in Africa (besides rural poverty and the lack of training and proper equipment) is the fact that they grow a lot of things with the plan of exporting them like cocoa, meanwhile importing $100 billion in food they actually need.

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

I feel like my RP is going to get tangled up in the backroom politics, I just keep finding more and more 'businessmen' akin to cheap James Bond villains that are all tied up in this very intricate scheme of things. For instance what the media has pronounced the most well known and 'dangerous' oligarch, Aivars Lembergs, is nothing more but an employee to someone who has has a monopoly of shares and companies.

It's like I have a picture but I can't quite get all of it, it's obstructed in half-truths, there's a lot of ties and links and news articles that just focus on one tiny outline. Elections aren't a factor, political parties get subverted and over turned in an instant by simple finance.

It's 2:30 at night rn and I sound schizo, I know. I'm essentially counting sand grains.

[The Surge Empire]

poor Latvia, a victim to post-soviet corruption

[St George Territory]

APP WIP

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Nationstates Name - St. George Territory
Nation Name - French Fifth Republic
Roleplay example link - Here you go

Capital - Paris
Type of Government - Republic
Head of State(s) - President Emmanuel Macron
Image of Leader -

Party in Power - La République En Marche
Executive Title - Président de la République française
Religion Breakdown - 51.1% Christian (Predominantly Roman Catholic)
39.6% Irreligious
5.6% Islam
2.5% Other
Flag -

National Anthem - La Marseillaise

Public Goals - To preserve and strengthen the European Union, and with it France, Strengthening CESDOT to contend with NASO and CSTO
Private Goals - To support Scottish independence in the effort to weaken the United Kingdom and force it to reenter the European Union

Total military size - 451,500 (with Gendarmerie)
Breakdown of ground sector -

• 172,000 active with 25,000 reserves
-528 tanks
6,028 Armoured vehicles
-109 self propelled artillery
-12 towed artillery
-13 rocket projectors

Breakdown of naval sector -

40,000 personnel
-180 total assets
-4 aircraft carriers
-11 Destroyers
-11 frigates
-9 submarines
-17 Patrol vessels
-17 Mine warfare

Breakdown of airforce sector -

41,160 personnel
-269 Fighters
-121 Transport
-187 trainer
-45 Special mission
-589 Helicopter
-62 Helicopter

Major foreign military suppliers- Germany, United States
Extra military information - Will create ORBAT in future


Currency - Euro (€)
Currency and value of currency compared to USD - 1 Euro = 1.12 USD
Major import/export partners - Export - Germany, Italy, Spain, United Kingdom, United States, Russia, China, India, Belgium
Import - China, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Ireland, United Kingdom, United States, Saudi Arabia

Major Domestic Issues - Nuclear power, migrant crisis, economy, National Rally
Major Foreign Issues - Scottish Independence, NASO, CSTO, Aftermath of the Virumaa crisis

Pre-2024 History - "Perfidious Albion" the words on everyone's lips, from Brexit, the Eurocrisis of 2012, the state of Europe seemed dire, migrants flooding from France's former colonies did little to aid to the tinderbox that was France, Macron had just managed to keep a hold of the government, fighting back opponents from all sides of the aisle, beating the National Rally in a highly contested election that saw dangerous rhetoric thrown around about the place of the EU on the modern stage, with the United States pulling back with President Hampton at the helm, it had made Macron long for the days of having to deal with Trump. NATO, as an organization was tested on October 8th, 2022, the Virumaa Crisis. Realizing that Russia must be stopped France joined with the many members of NATO in demanding a response to the blatant illegal invasion of Latvia and Estonia, primarily to the battle of Rēzekne, which for the valiant defence against insurmountable odds posthumously awarded the Croix de Guerre to the commanding officer of the Latvian contingency, the battle inspired the French armed forces into sending the Foreign Legion and other units in a desperate plea to beat back the Russian advance, the goal being two-fold, to push back Russia, and give credence to the fact that Europe must rely on herself for defence, the days of being in the shadow of the United States had long past, a new alliance would be needed.

In Africa, nation building was one of France's passions, that seemed at risk with the death of Paul Biya, his successor, proved to be troublesome, so much so it resulted in a civil war, France would seek to assist the Cameroonian government and hopefully install a pro-France head to maintain a stasus-quo.

[Atrilan]

APP WIP

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Nationstates Name - St. George Territory
Nation Name - French Fifth Republic
Roleplay example link - Here you go

Capital - Paris
Type of Government - Republic
Head of State(s) - President Emmanuel Macron
Image of Leader -

(Image)

Party in Power - La République En Marche
Executive Title - Président de la République française
Religion Breakdown - 51.1% Christian (Predominantly Roman Catholic)
39.6% Irreligious
5.6% Islam
2.5% Other
Flag -

(Image)

National Anthem - La Marseillaise

Public Goals -
Private Goals -

Total military size -
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Currency -
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Major Domestic Issues -
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Pre-2024 History - (Any large events will be scrutinized in accordance to the current lore)

allah has answered my prayers, we have a france app

[Hanoverian Great Britain]

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Nationstates Name - Hanoverian Great Britain
Nation Name - Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
Roleplay example link -

Capital - Amman
Type of Government - Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State(s) - Hussein II
Image of Leader -

• Hussein II of Jordan
• Omar Razzaz

Party in Power - Independent
Executive Title -

• King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
• Prime Minister of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan

Religion Breakdown -

• 95.5% - Islam
• 4.5% - Christianity
• 0.5% - Others

Flag -
National Anthem - The Royal Anthem of Jordan

Public Goals

• To sustain economical development following the 2018 riots
• To continue to serve as a mediator in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
• To increase development of political parties in Jordan
• To overcome the refugee influx stemming from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
• To continue to promote peace and prosperity following recent developments in the Middle East

Total military size -

• Total - 205,000
• Active forces - 100,000
• Reserve forces - 105,000

Breakdown of ground sector -

• Tanks - 1,400
• Armored Vehicles - 2,915
• Self-Propelled Artillery - 465
• Towed Artillery - 84
• Rocket Projectors - 92

Breakdown of naval sector -

• Patrol - 24

Breakdown of airforce sector -

• Fighters - 50
• Dedicated Attack - 7
• Transports - 19
• Trainers - 83
• Special Mission - 10
• Helicopters - 161
• Attack Helicopters - 57

Major foreign military suppliers -

• USA
• United Kingdom
• France
• Russia
• China
  and others...

Extra military information - N/A


Currency - Jordanian dinar
Currency and value of currency compared to USD - 1 JOD = 1.41 USD
Major import/export partners - Import:

• China
• Saudi Arabia
• USA
• UAE
• Germany

Export:

• USA
• Saudi Arabia
• India
• Iraq
• Kuwait
• UAE

Major Domestic Issues -

• Poverty
• Unemployment

Major Foreign Issues -

• Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Pre-2024 History - Since its foundation in 1922, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan has underwent continuous progress in a region devastated by military conflicts and political instability, particularly concerning those of its neighbours in Syria and Israel. However, the Middle Eastern country rose to become one of the most "advanced countries" in the region. Despite an economical crisis in 2018 that proved a concern to the country's stability, coupled with the influx of refugees from its surrounding conflicts, the current administration has fared well, with several reverses in slowly overcoming these challenges as the state of Jordan continues to play a pivotal role in Middle Eastern politics.

[Atrilan]

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Nationstates Name - Hanoverian Great Britain
Nation Name - Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
Roleplay example link -

Capital - Amman
Type of Government - Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State(s) - Hussein II
Image of Leader -

• Hussein II of Jordan
• Omar Razzaz

Party in Power - Independent
Executive Title -

• King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
• Prime Minister of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan

Religion Breakdown -

• 95.5% - Islam
• 4.5% - Christianity
• 0.5% - Others

Flag - (Image)
National Anthem - The Royal Anthem of Jordan

Public Goals

• To sustain economical development following the 2018 riots
• To continue to serve as a mediator in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
• To increase development of political parties in Jordan
• To overcome the refugee influx stemming from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
• To continue to promote peace and prosperity following recent developments in the Middle East

Total military size -

• Total - 205,000
• Active forces - 100,000
• Reserve forces - 105,000

Breakdown of ground sector -

• Tanks - 1,400
• Armored Vehicles - 2,915
• Self-Propelled Artillery - 465
• Towed Artillery - 84
• Rocket Projectors - 92

Breakdown of naval sector -

• Patrol - 24

Breakdown of airforce sector -

• Fighters - 50
• Dedicated Attack - 7
• Transports - 19
• Trainers - 83
• Special Mission - 10
• Helicopters - 161
• Attack Helicopters - 57

Major foreign military suppliers -

• USA
• United Kingdom
• France
• Russia
• China
  and others...

Extra military information - N/A


Currency - Jordanian dinar
Currency and value of currency compared to USD - 1 JOD = 1.41 USD
Major import/export partners - Import:

• China
• Saudi Arabia
• USA
• UAE
• Germany

Export:

• USA
• Saudi Arabia
• India
• Iraq
• Kuwait
• UAE

Major Domestic Issues -

• Poverty
• Unemployment

Major Foreign Issues -

• Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Pre-2024 History - Since its foundation in 1922, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan has underwent continuous progress in a region devastated by military conflicts and political instability, particularly concerning those of its neighbours in Syria and Israel. However, the Middle Eastern country rose to become one of the most "advanced countries" in the region. Despite an economical crisis in 2018 that proved a concern to the country's stability, coupled with the influx of refugees from its surrounding conflicts, the current administration has fared well, with several reverses in slowly overcoming these challenges as the state of Jordan continues to play a pivotal role in Middle Eastern politics.

Accepted, at least you have a friend with the Palestine player.

[Kargintina the Third]

Should I ban automation or implement UBI?

[The Palmetto]

Should I ban automation or implement UBI?

I mean, probably neither right now. Banning automation would make the UK hella uncompetitive. If you wanna try UBI, I’d suggest you mention the government doing local experiments like Canada has IRL. It hasn’t been done IRL yet so you doing UBI would have to be a gradual thing. Of course, it’s also something Labor would probably be doing, but if you can find a way to justify the Tories supporting it, let me know.

Here’s some links you might find helpful.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-universal-basic-income-experiment
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inverse.com/article/55791-universal-basic-income-the-uk-may-host-one-of-the-biggest-trials-yet/amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/18/universal-basic-income-could-be-covered-reversing-welfare-spending-cuts-plan-uk

[Da Klan]

I uh posted

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

Yall think an EU orientated investment scheme/fund into wind power would work, or at least get some backing. Help some energy security issues.

[Atrilan]

Yall think an EU orientated investment scheme/fund into wind power would work, or at least get some backing. Help some energy security issues.

I think solar/nuclear is probably a better bet than wind honestly. tho for the short-term i still like our uhhhhh gas plan