A Song of Ice And Fire - The Bleeding Years

[Roman Imperator]

Wise choice...

And perhaps, though I have to question your military strength size. While, yes, it is said that Dorne can raise 50,000 men, it is also said that "However, when, following his conquest of Dorne, King Daeron I Targaryen wrote his book called The Conquest of Dorne, he exaggerated the quantity of his opponents to enhance his victory"

So I find it a bit unlikely, especially considering that your population is lower than mine yet somehow you have more troops

It's ultimately up to the OP, but I think a better number would be 30,000

Yea actually I'll bite and reduce it to 45,000 instead of 30,000.

Even George RR Martin has stated that Dorne should roughly be around the same military strength as either the north or the vale. But if OP agrees that 30,000 is still a much better number I got no qualms with it.

Btw should Dorne's economical strength by average or high? Not sure since they practically rule vast amount of deserts

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Alright, but it'd be nice to have you among us sooner or later

Btw, I sort of question why the Westerlands can't be "Very High" on the economic scale: they're absurdly rich after all, the richest Kingdom in Westeros with their absurd amount of gold mines. Even by the time of the setting in the series, where the Lannisters have pretty much run out of gold to mine, they're still rich enough to the point where the Kingdom is in massive debt to the Lannisters

I'm not opposing you or criticising you or anything like that, but I'm just saying because I'm fairly certain the Westerlands would be richer then Dorne...

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They should be, so I will edit the rules so that the highest level of Economic Strength is 'Absurdly Rich' instead of 'Very High', because Braavos and New Valyria are meant to be the richest kids on the block who are not Yi Ti (which is not playable).

Aight, cool

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

Bloody hell I wanna play the Ibbenese and turn them into Dutch expies.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Wise choice...

And perhaps, though I have to question your military strength size. While, yes, it is said that Dorne can raise 50,000 men, it is also said that "However, when, following his conquest of Dorne, King Daeron I Targaryen wrote his book called The Conquest of Dorne, he exaggerated the quantity of his opponents to enhance his victory"

So I find it a bit unlikely, especially considering that your population is lower than mine yet somehow you have more troops

It's ultimately up to the OP, but I think a better number would be 30,000

Yea actually I'll bite and reduce it to 45,000 instead of 30,000.

Even George RR Martin has stated that Dorne should roughly be around the same military strength as either the north or the vale. But if OP agrees that 30,000 is still a much better number I got no qualms with it.

Btw should Dorne's economical strength by average or high? Not sure since they practically rule vast amount of deserts

Well I'd assume that Dorne has a lot of great trade and a lot of wealth in different resources (wines, spices, etc, they're basically Arabia after all) as well as trade likely

And since the OP has upgraded the Economic scale, I think saying you're High while I'm Very High is fair

[Dragos Bee]

I might also add a 'Very Low' to the Economic Scale.

[Ard al Islam]

Yea actually I'll bite and reduce it to 45,000 instead of 30,000.

Even George RR Martin has stated that Dorne should roughly be around the same military strength as either the north or the vale. But if OP agrees that 30,000 is still a much better number I got no qualms with it.

Btw should Dorne's economical strength by average or high? Not sure since they practically rule vast amount of deserts

Well I'd assume that Dorne has a lot of great trade and a lot of wealth in different resources (wines, spices, etc, they're basically Arabia after all) as well as trade likely

And since the OP has upgraded the Economic scale, I think saying you're High while I'm Very High is fair

What about the Vale?

[Dragos Bee]

Well I'd assume that Dorne has a lot of great trade and a lot of wealth in different resources (wines, spices, etc, they're basically Arabia after all) as well as trade likely

And since the OP has upgraded the Economic scale, I think saying you're High while I'm Very High is fair

What about the Vale?

Average, although your vassals, the Graftons of Gulltown, can be High.

[Roman Imperator]

WIP
Canon Name: Dorne / House Martell
Canon Flag/Badge:

Canon Military Strength: 45,000 (40,000 infantry | 5,000 cavalry)
Canon History:
An Andal adventurer named Morgan Martell settled between the mouth of the Greenblood and the Broken Arm. He and his kin descended on lands loosely held by Houses Wade and Shell, defeating them in battle and seizing their villages and castles to establish dominion over a strip of coast-land fifty leagues long and ten leagues wide. With this, House Martell was founded, but they did not rule as kings. Instead, they became cautious vassals of kings from Houses Jordayne, Allyrion, and Yronwood, as well as other petty kings of the Greenblood.

This all changed with the coming of the warrior queen, Nymeria, and the Rhoynar. The then current head of the house, Mors Martell, recognized the strength and courage of Nymeria and her people and the great opportunity they would provide for him and his kin to rise above the status quo. Wisely, Mors took the warrior queen to wife and combined the strength of House Martell to that of the Rhoynar to subjugate all of Dorne. Still, the Martells did not rule Dorne as kings and queens but rather as princes and princess after the custom of Nymeria and her people.

It has been centuries since the end of the Rhoynish Wars and since then, House Martell has kept Dorne secured and united against all foreign opposition. Dorne, at the present, keeps an ever-watchful eye on events unfolding north of the Dornish Marches and east towards the disputed lands and beyond. House Martell has thrived on opportunities before and opportunity will always be found with patience and vigilance.
Headcanon History:
Economic Strength: High

Babylon - The City of Fortune

Tamara Korfingen was watching the foreigners coming down from the ship when she noticed some of the men looking directly at her. Blushing the young lady quickly came down from the podium and mixed herself in the large crowd in the hopes of being lost from sight.

A handmaiden from the palace managed to find her and spoke anxiously.

"My mistress.....Lady Aouda has sent me to find you and return you back to the castle immediately. You have to get ready in time to meet your guests."

Emissary Haresh Diego explained and gave his foreign visitors a quick tour as they made their way through the bustling streets of Babylon.

".......here in Babylon we have a variety of things being sold on every street. Ranging from the local and the most delicious tropical fruits of Avereach to its wine, war elephants and slaves."

As they walked on, the party passed by a couple of large elephants with thick gigantic tusks. Then they came across a massive group of slaves in chains being auctioned off to some very well-dressed individuals.

Here, Emissary Diego continued, "As you can see....slavery is a booming business right here in Babylon. We sell not only mere house-hold slaves but slave-warriors and gladiators as well.....fighters who would obey your any command. They are quite pricey but worth every bit of the price I assure you."

They paused here for awhile so that their guests could get a better glimpse of how slavery was like.

The emissary continued, "We have recently been trying to get The Dragon King to sell us some of his infamous Dragon Fangs as merchandise for Babylon. Unfortunately the king disagreed......or else maybe Mandorgan might already have 8,500 of the most renowned, disciplined and efficient warriors within their armies. To tell you the truth though, The Seven might have priced the Dragon Fangs to the point where no kingdom can afford them........they are that valued here in Babylon as you can see........100 times more valuable then even anything we are selling here right now."

Haresh then continued to lead them towards the large eastern-like castle, the likes in-which the rest of Mandorgan have yet to see. The tall and massive gold tinted double-doors opened as Emissary Diego led them in saying proudly, "Welcome to Midas Keep, glory of all Babylon and the most beautiful and unique castle in the whole world. Gold is riddled in every part of this magnificent structure and even our inner guards are clothed from head to toe with gold-colored silk and chain-mail........indeed much of the gold that is used to make The Dragon King's White Cloaks' armor comes from this very place."

Winking at them, the emissary added, "Now you know why they nickname Lord Jashar, The Gold Lord of Babylon. To him he has no shortage of gold and has enough to spare and share with every peasant in this city of ours.......if he was charitable enough that is."

Haresh then led them within the palace and into a large fine room with silk carpets thrown everywhere and bundles of silken mattresses with velvet pillows and exotic like blankets littering the floor. There was even a table with plates laden with spices and Babylonian delicacies they can eat with.

The emissary bowed and said before taking his leave.

"My master will soon be present....in the meantime please make yourself at home and enjoy our every bit of entertainment."

At the clap of his hands, Emissary Diego summoned a group of exotic dancers in scantily clad clothes into the room. With their robes swinging in the air, the young women winked at the men before starting to gracefully and seductively dance for the guests accompanied by the rhythm of a music very unfamiliar to those who have lived their entire lives in Mandorgan.

Two Babylonian soldiers, who had been tasked to keep an eye as well as to help the foreignors in whatever they wanted, stood outside of the room on guard while servants within the grand room stood by to pour wine or feed them any of the delicacies they wanted from the table.

Antioch

Lord Ajay Tyndall led his 5,589 Dragon Fangs through the city and ordered them to camp outside later and rest while receiving refreshments.

They will stop there for 1 day and then continue on to the city of Babylon. They must reach the place first before The Dragon King arrives as per orders from his majesty himself.....although you can't help but wonder what in the world he was planning to do."

Felhurst

The Dragon King, meanwhile was resting in the city while his commanding officers recruited 2000 more troops into their 4000 strong army. Tired from his trip across The Hammerforge Mountains, Abel couldn't wait until he reached Babylon at last....where he hoped he would be on time for the festival.

[Dragos Bee]

WIP
Canon Name: Dorne / House Martell
Canon Flag/Badge:

(Image)

Canon Military Strength: 45,000 (40,000 infantry | 5,000 cavalry)
Canon History:
An Andal adventurer named Morgan Martell settled between the mouth of the Greenblood and the Broken Arm. He and his kin descended on lands loosely held by Houses Wade and Shell, defeating them in battle and seizing their villages and castles to establish dominion over a strip of coast-land fifty leagues long and ten leagues wide. With this, House Martell was founded, but they did not rule as kings. Instead, they became cautious vassals of kings from Houses Jordayne, Allyrion, and Yronwood, as well as other petty kings of the Greenblood.

This all changed with the coming of the warrior queen, Nymeria, and the Rhoynar. The then current head of the house, Mors Martell, recognized the strength and courage of Nymeria and her people and the great opportunity they would provide for him and his kin to rise above the status quo. Wisely, Mors took the warrior queen to wife and combined the strength of House Martell to that of the Rhoynar to subjugate all of Dorne. Still, the Martells did not rule Dorne as kings and queens but rather as princes and princess after the custom of Nymeria and her people.

It has been centuries since the end of the Rhoynish Wars and since then, House Martell has kept Dorne secured and united against all foreign opposition. Dorne, at the present, keeps an ever-watchful eye on events unfolding north of the Dornish Marches and east towards the disputed lands and beyond. House Martell has thrived on opportunities before and opportunity will always be found with patience and vigilance.
Headcanon History:
Economic Strength: High

Babylon - The City of Fortune

Tamara Korfingen was watching the foreigners coming down from the ship when she noticed some of the men looking directly at her. Blushing the young lady quickly came down from the podium and mixed herself in the large crowd in the hopes of being lost from sight.

A handmaiden from the palace managed to find her and spoke anxiously.

"My mistress.....Lady Aouda has sent me to find you and return you back to the castle immediately. You have to get ready in time to meet your guests."

Emissary Haresh Diego explained and gave his foreign visitors a quick tour as they made their way through the bustling streets of Babylon.

".......here in Babylon we have a variety of things being sold on every street. Ranging from the local and the most delicious tropical fruits of Avereach to its wine, war elephants and slaves."

As they walked on, the party passed by a couple of large elephants with thick gigantic tusks. Then they came across a massive group of slaves in chains being auctioned off to some very well-dressed individuals.

Here, Emissary Diego continued, "As you can see....slavery is a booming business right here in Babylon. We sell not only mere house-hold slaves but slave-warriors and gladiators as well.....fighters who would obey your any command. They are quite pricey but worth every bit of the price I assure you."

They paused here for awhile so that their guests could get a better glimpse of how slavery was like.

The emissary continued, "We have recently been trying to get The Dragon King to sell us some of his infamous Dragon Fangs as merchandise for Babylon. Unfortunately the king disagreed......or else maybe Mandorgan might already have 8,500 of the most renowned, disciplined and efficient warriors within their armies. To tell you the truth though, The Seven might have priced the Dragon Fangs to the point where no kingdom can afford them........they are that valued here in Babylon as you can see........100 times more valuable then even anything we are selling here right now."

Haresh then continued to lead them towards the large eastern-like castle, the likes in-which the rest of Mandorgan have yet to see. The tall and massive gold tinted double-doors opened as Emissary Diego led them in saying proudly, "Welcome to Midas Keep, glory of all Babylon and the most beautiful and unique castle in the whole world. Gold is riddled in every part of this magnificent structure and even our inner guards are clothed from head to toe with gold-colored silk and chain-mail........indeed much of the gold that is used to make The Dragon King's White Cloaks' armor comes from this very place."

Winking at them, the emissary added, "Now you know why they nickname Lord Jashar, The Gold Lord of Babylon. To him he has no shortage of gold and has enough to spare and share with every peasant in this city of ours.......if he was charitable enough that is."

Haresh then led them within the palace and into a large fine room with silk carpets thrown everywhere and bundles of silken mattresses with velvet pillows and exotic like blankets littering the floor. There was even a table with plates laden with spices and Babylonian delicacies they can eat with.

The emissary bowed and said before taking his leave.

"My master will soon be present....in the meantime please make yourself at home and enjoy our every bit of entertainment."

At the clap of his hands, Emissary Diego summoned a group of exotic dancers in scantily clad clothes into the room. With their robes swinging in the air, the young women winked at the men before starting to gracefully and seductively dance for the guests accompanied by the rhythm of a music very unfamiliar to those who have lived their entire lives in Mandorgan.

Two Babylonian soldiers, who had been tasked to keep an eye as well as to help the foreignors in whatever they wanted, stood outside of the room on guard while servants within the grand room stood by to pour wine or feed them any of the delicacies they wanted from the table.

Antioch

Lord Ajay Tyndall led his 5,589 Dragon Fangs through the city and ordered them to camp outside later and rest while receiving refreshments.

They will stop there for 1 day and then continue on to the city of Babylon. They must reach the place first before The Dragon King arrives as per orders from his majesty himself.....although you can't help but wonder what in the world he was planning to do."

Felhurst

The Dragon King, meanwhile was resting in the city while his commanding officers recruited 2000 more troops into their 4000 strong army. Tired from his trip across The Hammerforge Mountains, Abel couldn't wait until he reached Babylon at last....where he hoped he would be on time for the festival.

Will be accepted once complete, but I love this!

[Dragos Bee]

Bloody hell I wanna play the Ibbenese and turn them into Dutch expies.

Looks like a good idea.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

Bloody hell I wanna play the Ibbenese and turn them into Dutch expies.

Looks like a good idea.

Imagine some dude in a huge-ass whaling ship docking in your port and then going...
"Specerijen?"

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Bloody hell I wanna play the Ibbenese and turn them into Dutch expies.

Looks like a good idea.

This is Ruskland, btw, if you remember him

[Dragos Bee]

Looks like a good idea.

This is Ruskland, btw, if you remember him

I do, I just didn't match his 'Guu' name to Rusk.

Glad you're both giving me a second chance, btw.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

I'm pretty much done with the app btw

I'll write down a character app later

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

This is Ruskland, btw, if you remember him

I do, I just didn't match his 'Guu' name to Rusk.

Glad you're both giving me a second chance, btw.

Hey, its been a year or something, a lot can change within that period of time

Some of the guys are still pretty hesitant, but I'm willing to try you out again

[Dragos Bee]

I do, I just didn't match his 'Guu' name to Rusk.

Glad you're both giving me a second chance, btw.

Hey, its been a year or something, a lot can change within that period of time

Some of the guys are still pretty hesitant, but I'm willing to try you out again

*Thumbs Up*

[Dragos Bee]

Canon Name: Kingdom of the Rock/House Lannister
Canon Flag/Badge:

(Image)

Canon Military Strength: 45,000 (40,000 Infantry, 5,000 Cavalry)
The Rock's Army is one of the mightiest forces in Westeros. Though arguable whether they're the greatest warriors, what is certain is that they're one of the most disciplined and highly trained fighting forces on the continent. What is further certain is that they're likely the best-equipped army in Westeros, with the vast wealth of the Lannisters and her vassals affording soldiers the best armour, the best arms, and the best steeds of war that money could buy. Speaking of steeds, the Lannister Heavy Cavalry is arguably one of the best in Westeros, comparable even to the famed Knights of the Vale in terms of shock value and combat ability. Made up of veteran and extremely well-trained horseman, they're very ideal shock cavalry and are a complete terror to many on the battlefield.

The Rock also retains its own navy: a rather punitive fleet of about 30 Warships.
Canon History: Legends have it that the origins of House Lannister lay during the Age of Heroes when Lann the Clever tricked the family of House Casterly out of their home of Casterly Rock: a massive castle built out of a mountain, filled to the brim with a massive amount of gold. Only several years later, House Lannister would rule the "Kingdom of the Rock," which extended over most of the Westerlands, and extremely wealthy part of Westeros filled to the brim with mines. Though they initially fought against the Andal Invaders, unlike most other Kingdoms, House Lannister welcomed many of the Andals and integrated them into the Kingdom, to the point where when King Gerold III died without a male heir, his throne fell to Ser Joffrey Lyndon, an Andal.

A period of expansion and conflict followed as the Kingdom of the Rock expanded, going into conflict with the Kings of the Reach and the Iron Islands. Though perhaps the richest kingdom in Westeros, House Lannister's prestige took a massive hit when Tommen II lost the Valyrian steel Brightroar during his doomed expedition to Valyria. Now, House Lannister must regain that prestige, and prove that the Westerlands are a force all of Westeros should beware.
Headcanon History:
-Tywin is specifically noted for his intense and surprisingly brutality when taking care of the Reynes and Tarbecks, so I would assume that no Lannister leader before him has been so brutal on such a mass scale. So House Lannister will not have this massive fearful reputation as in the setting of the books/show.
-I've always thought that the term "A Lannister Always Pays his Debts" was somewhat of an invention by Tywin, because of him "paying back the debts" to the Reynes and Tarbecks who insulted them so. So I feel that the motto, and what the values it represents, won't be as notable in this House Lannister as it was in the show/books.
-I'd imagine that House Lannister would be considered somewhat of a laughing stock, or at least somewhat disgraced, because of their loss of Brightroar. I say somewhat because House Lannister still commands one of the most powerful kingdoms in Westeros, and certainly the richest, so to be so bluntly offending to them would probably mean great consequences.
TBA
Economic Strength: Very High

Double-post: Approved, by the way.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Canon Name: Kingdom of the Rock/House Lannister
Canon Flag/Badge:

(Image)

Canon Military Strength: 45,000 (40,000 Infantry, 5,000 Cavalry)
The Rock's Army is one of the mightiest forces in Westeros. Though arguable whether they're the greatest warriors, what is certain is that they're one of the most disciplined and highly trained fighting forces on the continent. What is further certain is that they're likely the best-equipped army in Westeros, with the vast wealth of the Lannisters and her vassals affording soldiers the best armour, the best arms, and the best steeds of war that money could buy. Speaking of steeds, the Lannister Heavy Cavalry is arguably one of the best in Westeros, comparable even to the famed Knights of the Vale in terms of shock value and combat ability. Made up of veteran and extremely well-trained horseman, they're very ideal shock cavalry and are a complete terror to many on the battlefield.

The Rock also retains its own navy: a rather punitive fleet of about 30 Warships.
Canon History: Legends have it that the origins of House Lannister lay during the Age of Heroes when Lann the Clever tricked the family of House Casterly out of their home of Casterly Rock: a massive castle built out of a mountain, filled to the brim with a massive amount of gold. Only several years later, House Lannister would rule the "Kingdom of the Rock," which extended over most of the Westerlands, and extremely wealthy part of Westeros filled to the brim with mines. Though they initially fought against the Andal Invaders, unlike most other Kingdoms, House Lannister welcomed many of the Andals and integrated them into the Kingdom, to the point where when King Gerold III died without a male heir, his throne fell to Ser Joffrey Lyndon, an Andal.

A period of expansion and conflict followed as the Kingdom of the Rock expanded, going into conflict with the Kings of the Reach and the Iron Islands. Though perhaps the richest kingdom in Westeros, House Lannister's prestige took a massive hit when Tommen II lost the Valyrian steel Brightroar during his doomed expedition to Valyria. Now, House Lannister must regain that prestige, and prove that the Westerlands are a force all of Westeros should beware.
Headcanon History:
-Tywin is specifically noted for his intense and surprisingly brutality when taking care of the Reynes and Tarbecks, so I would assume that no Lannister leader before him has been so brutal on such a mass scale. So House Lannister will not have this massive fearful reputation as in the setting of the books/show.
-I've always thought that the term "A Lannister Always Pays his Debts" was somewhat of an invention by Tywin, because of him "paying back the debts" to the Reynes and Tarbecks who insulted them so. So I feel that the motto, and what the values it represents, won't be as notable in this House Lannister as it was in the show/books.
-I'd imagine that House Lannister would be considered somewhat of a laughing stock, or at least somewhat disgraced, because of their loss of Brightroar. I say somewhat because House Lannister still commands one of the most powerful kingdoms in Westeros, and certainly the richest, so to be so bluntly offending to them would probably mean great consequences.
TBA
Economic Strength: Very High

Double-post: Approved, by the way.

Aight, thx, excited to get this show on the road

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hey, its been a year or something, a lot can change within that period of time

Some of the guys are still pretty hesitant, but I'm willing to try you out again

*Thumbs Up*

As long as you don't do anything like suddenly ban slavery or something from the RP, or suddenly have a bunch of democratic revolutionaries overthrow a Great House, then we should be chill

[Dragos Bee]

*Thumbs Up*

As long as you don't do anything like suddenly ban slavery or something from the RP, or suddenly have a bunch of democratic revolutionaries overthrow a Great House, then we should be chill

I'm no longer that stupid.

Now, trying to buff the merchant classes, however...

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

As long as you don't do anything like suddenly ban slavery or something from the RP, or suddenly have a bunch of democratic revolutionaries overthrow a Great House, then we should be chill

I'm no longer that stupid.

Now, trying to buff the merchant classes, however...

[Dragos Bee]

I'm no longer that stupid.

Now, trying to buff the merchant classes, however...

Might actually change my mind and play The Reach. Of course, that might hurt my impartiality...

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

How do I solve my population problem aaaaa
Ibbenese can't crossbreed with humans wat do
Low population gang
Do we give them a massive population steroid?
Also I don't like this Shadow Council, can we fudge lore a bit to give em a true republic or something.

[Ormata]

How do I solve my population problem aaaaa
Ibbenese can't crossbreed with humans wat do
Low population gang
Do we give them a massive population steroid?
Also I don't like this Shadow Council, can we fudge lore a bit to give em a true republic or something.

Be normal, dang it.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

How do I solve my population problem aaaaa
Ibbenese can't crossbreed with humans wat do
Low population gang
Do we give them a massive population steroid?
Also I don't like this Shadow Council, can we fudge lore a bit to give em a true republic or something.

Be normal, dang it.

No thanks, also this Shadow Council isn't that bad, I can play with this thing.
Eh time to be Ibben guy.