New Civilizations (2nd Era, OOC, Always Open )

[Orostan]

The current year is making this roleplay stale.

We really need a time skip. We have been in the same year for almost 3 months now and I can't progress without time moving forward. Advancements cant happen if we are going by month or days.

I’m up for a time skip.

Hm. Would the Yellow Sea be at all easier to travel than the open ocean? Would I be able to make ships that could safely go to Korea, but not safely from south China directly to Vietnam?

Well, the Yellow Sea is pound for pound larger and more ferocious than either the Irish Sea, or the English Channel - and those are the salient basis for comparison. Certainly you’ll have a safer time traveling on the short trip to Korea as opposed to all the way along the coast to Vietnam/South China, but that still largely begs the question of priority. Why send men on barely seaworthy prototypes for hundreds of kilometers when China needs nothing those regions can provide? Exploration tends to result from feasibility, not impracticality.

I want to launch exploration efforts partially as a propaganda campaign and partially to build trade routes that will allow easier expansion into new areas.

[Ralnis]

I will be sending some envoys to try and be able to buy up some companies or invest heavily in the single market in order to get Sumeria a bigger piece of the trading for profits and to get tech diffusion from Nestos and the Imperium traders.

How in the heck are you trading with the Imperium? They're all the way in Europe and they don't have steam boats anymore or that sort.

Via Crimean Peninsula or Nestos by proxy.

[Speyland]

Who's the mapper?

[New Arcadius]

Who's the mapper?

I am officially, but I have no list of what to update the map. I had asked people to give me info in order, but I have been largely ignored...

So it's kind of hard for me to do map updates without people telling me in TGs or here.

[Orostan]

Who's the mapper?

I am officially, but I have no list of what to update the map. I had asked people to give me info in order, but I have been largely ignored...

So it's kind of hard for me to do map updates without people telling me in TGs or here.

I have a map of China that was supposed to be for ten years in. Right now though I'd say a row of provinces and military districts around the edges of it would be shaved off, as those probably haven't been fully integrated or are not accessible via good infrastructure.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The current year is making this roleplay stale.

We really need a time skip. We have been in the same year for almost 3 months now and I can't progress without time moving forward. Advancements cant happen if we are going by month or days.

I suppose we could consider a timeskip. Many folks haven't been able to resolve their events or post much as is though, which makes me reticent to advance us.

[Endem]

The current year is making this roleplay stale.

We really need a time skip. We have been in the same year for almost 3 months now and I can't progress without time moving forward. Advancements cant happen if we are going by month or days.

I suppose we could consider a timeskip. Many folks haven't been able to resolve their events or post much as is though, which makes me reticent to advance us.

I still have at least one or two posts to make in the current year

[Speyland]

Who's the mapper?

I am officially, but I have no list of what to update the map. I had asked people to give me info in order, but I have been largely ignored...

So it's kind of hard for me to do map updates without people telling me in TGs or here.

How can I create a map on Google Maps? Is it possible?

[UniversalCommons]

I have been able to resolve most of my issues. The war in Sumer is over and my people are heading home. We are in another period of stability and growth for a few more years.

I am working on a post on the concept of self-reliance right now, and helping my people become more self-reliant both at the national, community, and individual level.

[Ralnis]

I have been able to resolve most of my issues. The war in Sumer is over and my people are heading home. We are in another period of stability and growth for a few more years.

I am working on a post on the concept of self-reliance right now, and helping my people become more self-reliant both at the national, community, and individual level.

As you do that, Sumeria will be looking to finally get out of it's initial growing pains and take up the name empire. Usher in that industrial revolution of water-power and start conquering westward. The idea is that during the off time, Luther will be trying to establish more of a concrete nation and make sure that Uruk never happens again. Try to become a world power and regain that international sphere of influence.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I have been able to resolve most of my issues. The war in Sumer is over and my people are heading home. We are in another period of stability and growth for a few more years.

I am working on a post on the concept of self-reliance right now, and helping my people become more self-reliant both at the national, community, and individual level.

Granted, the war in Sumer certainly isn't over - two large battles which led to vast losses against prepared positions will hardly negate all institutional opposition to religious conversion and civil dominion. Just as the Commonwealth's remnants will need policing and pacification for generations, Sumeria will be even more of a hotbed of uprisings and dissension for the foreseeable future.

[Ralnis]

I have been able to resolve most of my issues. The war in Sumer is over and my people are heading home. We are in another period of stability and growth for a few more years.

I am working on a post on the concept of self-reliance right now, and helping my people become more self-reliant both at the national, community, and individual level.

Granted, the war in Sumer certainly isn't over - two large battles which led to vast losses against prepared positions will hardly negate all institutional opposition to religious conversion and civil dominion. Just as the Commonwealth's remnants will need policing and pacification for generations, Sumeria will be even more of a hotbed of uprisings and dissension for the foreseeable future.

It is, and will be. Like I said, the whole fifteen years will be mostly internal overhauls and centralizations to a large point before it can regain what it use to have as the Queendom. Only minor gains through expansion would be seen but it would be mostly trying to keep the idea of an empire running beyond duct tape and prayer.

[Orostan]

Granted, the war in Sumer certainly isn't over - two large battles which led to vast losses against prepared positions will hardly negate all institutional opposition to religious conversion and civil dominion. Just as the Commonwealth's remnants will need policing and pacification for generations, Sumeria will be even more of a hotbed of uprisings and dissension for the foreseeable future.

It is, and will be. Like I said, the whole fifteen years will be mostly internal overhauls and centralizations to a large point before it can regain what it use to have as the Queendom. Only minor gains through expansion would be seen but it would be mostly trying to keep the idea of an empire running beyond duct tape and prayer.

Trade would recover though, correct?

[Ralnis]

It is, and will be. Like I said, the whole fifteen years will be mostly internal overhauls and centralizations to a large point before it can regain what it use to have as the Queendom. Only minor gains through expansion would be seen but it would be mostly trying to keep the idea of an empire running beyond duct tape and prayer.

Trade would recover though, correct?

Oh yeah, totally. But it would be slowed down but there will be explorations going into China through Indus and India so there's the chance to meet a combination of Sumerian, Indus, and proto-Indian traders trying to make a long trade route from one end to the other.

[Orostan]

Trade would recover though, correct?

Oh yeah, totally. But it would be slowed down but there will be explorations going into China through Indus and India so there's the chance to meet a combination of Sumerian, Indus, and proto-Indian traders trying to make a long trade route from one end to the other.

I think by the next timeskip it’s realistic for land based exploration to have created a trade network into western China. I have a post in the works about sea and land exploration developments but if we’re doing a timeskip I’m not sure I want to post it yet.

Hopefully in the next five years Chinese goods will begin entering India by way of Myanmar and from the north. Trade routes might be a good reason to expand into south China for me.

[Plzen]

As long as a nation has a national identity it’s never truly dead. Ask the Poles. :p

Honestly I think there are enough cultural institutions in Scandinavia, between its written language, system of education, and publications industry, to keep the region running as a nation in semi-perpetuity, even if the State that initially forged that nation disappears into historical memory.

[Joohan]

Hey yall. In light of the recent events, imma be real with ya, I don't know if i'm gonna have time to do this for a while. Without getting too much into it, stuff is heating up, and I don't think i'm going to be able to contribute to this consistently for a bit.

[Orostan]

Hey yall. In light of the recent events, imma be real with ya, I don't know if i'm gonna have time to do this for a while. Without getting too much into it, stuff is heating up, and I don't think i'm going to be able to contribute to this consistently for a bit.

That’s unfortunate. I hope you aren’t going to be involved in anything dangerous. Does G-Tech have the decision making power if you are busy for a while?

[Joohan]

Hey yall. In light of the recent events, imma be real with ya, I don't know if i'm gonna have time to do this for a while. Without getting too much into it, stuff is heating up, and I don't think i'm going to be able to contribute to this consistently for a bit.

That’s unfortunate. I hope you aren’t going to be involved in anything dangerous. Does G-Tech have the decision making power if you are busy for a while?

Until I return yes. I'll try and drop in from time to time till things get settled down.

[Orostan]

That’s unfortunate. I hope you aren’t going to be involved in anything dangerous. Does G-Tech have the decision making power if you are busy for a while?

Until I return yes. I'll try and drop in from time to time till things get settled down.

alright. stay safe.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hey yall. In light of the recent events, imma be real with ya, I don't know if i'm gonna have time to do this for a while. Without getting too much into it, stuff is heating up, and I don't think i'm going to be able to contribute to this consistently for a bit.

Ah, I can imagine. Stay safe, and best of luck.

[Ralnis]

Oh yeah, totally. But it would be slowed down but there will be explorations going into China through Indus and India so there's the chance to meet a combination of Sumerian, Indus, and proto-Indian traders trying to make a long trade route from one end to the other.

I think by the next timeskip it’s realistic for land based exploration to have created a trade network into western China. I have a post in the works about sea and land exploration developments but if we’re doing a timeskip I’m not sure I want to post it yet.

Hopefully in the next five years Chinese goods will begin entering India by way of Myanmar and from the north. Trade routes might be a good reason to expand into south China for me.

Well having connections between Sumer, while trying to stabilize, is a one of the most industrialized places in the world. Nestos would be using these lines to try and Marco Polo there way over there. Just replace greed for knowledge. Guessing some tech diffusion from Western Europe and the Near East could jumpstart China's industrial might perhaps. Mostly since Sumeria will be looking to revolutionize their industry with the use of water power with the help of Nestos, whatever knowledge they copied from the Imperials, and Sumerian expertise.

Hey yall. In light of the recent events, imma be real with ya, I don't know if i'm gonna have time to do this for a while. Without getting too much into it, stuff is heating up, and I don't think i'm going to be able to contribute to this consistently for a bit.

Damn, I hope you're alright and nothing goes wrong.

[Orostan]

I think by the next timeskip it’s realistic for land based exploration to have created a trade network into western China. I have a post in the works about sea and land exploration developments but if we’re doing a timeskip I’m not sure I want to post it yet.

Hopefully in the next five years Chinese goods will begin entering India by way of Myanmar and from the north. Trade routes might be a good reason to expand into south China for me.

Well having connections between Sumer, while trying to stabilize, is a one of the most industrialized places in the world. Nestos would be using these lines to try and Marco Polo there way over there. Just replace greed for knowledge. Guessing some tech diffusion from Western Europe and the Near East could jumpstart China's industrial might perhaps. Mostly since Sumeria will be looking to revolutionize their industry with the use of water power with the help of Nestos, whatever knowledge they copied from the Imperials, and Sumerian expertise.

In whatever area I’m behind in I’ll be sure to catch up quick. Reducing the price of silk for merchants from nations that give me technology is something I’m going to be doing a lot of. Contact with Nestos is also going to be very fun and I can’t wait to RP it.

[UniversalCommons]

Resistance is expected. We intend to do a few things to soften things up.

[Endem]

Goddamn, I'm way smaller then the Imperium, I did nothing towards them, and my exploits aren't the worst this RP seen, why am I targeted?!?! We frequently let traders pass through Gdansk, that's why it's a trade town, we never made any transgressions against you, and I was supposed to stop expanding after the next time skip, and the reason offered is blatantly wrong, I explained in my posts that we have a clear system, there is one council that governs the whole country, and smaller councils subservient to it governing smaller parts of the country, and to them are subservient smaller councils, and we do not "just pillage, rape and plunder" many times have I explained that we give a tribe a chance to join peacefully, and their chief a seat in the regional council, if they rejected... Well, that's another story.