New Civilizations (2nd Era, OOC, Always Open )

[Joohan]

The increase in draw strength comes purely from that combination of factors - factors which allow the operator to go through multiple operations of the lever-arm before the weapon is ready to fire. It is a simple matter of greater storage of energy - a Zhuge crossbow can only fire with the translated energy of a single arm motion, whereas heavier repeaters are essentially 'pumped up' through the stages of the roll-locks, storing greater energetic potential in the bowstring than would be possible with a single motion.

What does a single operation look like?

The picture I have in my head, is a guy in a gambeson essentially working on a lever and pulling a drawstring back further and further and catching a series of nut's built into the stock until he's reached back to the position that he's ready to fire.

But why would you need multiple nuts? Nut's in it themselves don't help with the process of actually drawing. Perhaps there's something about the process of pumping I don't understand. If it takes multiple rotations in order to draw the string back to the desired position, then it sounds like it isn't as fast as it's been made out to be. Could you provide an example of this mechanism?

I've come across a process which could reasonably solve this issue - but I plan on using it for my guys, and I don't want to give you ideas.

[Orostan]

Joohan, did you get my telegram with the map?

[Joohan]

Joohan, did you get my telegram with the map?

Yes, I responded in TG

Edit: wait, sorry, haven't read it yet.

[Cainesland]

I might see about posting this weekend sometime.

[Orostan]

Made a new post. I tried to feature the actual characters more, as suggested by Joohan.

Aaron and Tan observe the testing of a simple power loom, and a battle occurs near modern day Nanyang against rural rebels. In the next post I'll feature the changes in culture occurring due to Aaron's influence and a conversation between Aaron and the captured rebel leader.

[Joohan]

Made a new post. I tried to feature the actual characters more, as suggested by Joohan.

Aaron and Tan observe the testing of a simple power loom, and a battle occurs near modern day Nanyang against rural rebels. In the next post I'll feature the changes in culture occurring due to Aaron's influence and a conversation between Aaron and the captured rebel leader.

I just read your most recent post. I have to say, I loved the battle! The rebel motivation seemed real, and I especially liked the exchange of archer fire.

" Most of the government army was from one of the cities along the Yellow River and was literate. " - I doubt that. It takes considerable time for someone to become literate, and that's with competent teachers and a already fleshed out set of linguistic rules. Literacy should be an exceptionally rare thing right now, and really, Aaron should be still working out the kinks of his written language.

As for the loom, please, for the rest of this time skip, do not invent anything further. If Aaron were a polymath with substantially more time and resources on his hands, his many inventions and creations might be more realistic - but he isn't.

[Orostan]

Made a new post. I tried to feature the actual characters more, as suggested by Joohan.

Aaron and Tan observe the testing of a simple power loom, and a battle occurs near modern day Nanyang against rural rebels. In the next post I'll feature the changes in culture occurring due to Aaron's influence and a conversation between Aaron and the captured rebel leader.

I just read your most recent post. I have to say, I loved the battle! The rebel motivation seemed real, and I especially liked the exchange of archer fire.

" Most of the government army was from one of the cities along the Yellow River and was literate. " - I doubt that. It takes considerable time for someone to become literate, and that's with competent teachers and a already fleshed out set of linguistic rules. Literacy should be an exceptionally rare thing right now, and really, Aaron should be still working out the kinks of his written language.

As for the loom, please, for the rest of this time skip, do not invent anything further. If Aaron were a polymath with substantially more time and resources on his hands, his many inventions and creations might be more realistic - but he isn't.

I'm glad you liked the battle!

I can edit the literacy part of the post away, but I was trying to show that these soldiers were from the core of the PGC where public education has been around the longest and promoted the strongest and where the benefits of being part of the PGC are felt the strongest. I will also not develop the power loom into something that can be used on a large scale until the next time skip. Right now it's supposed to be an early prototype anyway.

What did you think of the conversation between Aaron and Tan at the start? I would appreciate any input you have on that.

[Joohan]

I can edit the literacy part of the post away, but I was trying to show that these soldiers were from the core of the PGC where public education has been around the longest and promoted the strongest and where the benefits of being part of the PGC are felt the strongest. I will also not develop the power loom into something that can be used on a large scale until the next time skip. Right now it's supposed to be an early prototype anyway.

It's not a lack of effort on the PGC's part which makes literacy so difficult to produce, it's just the constraints of the time period. You need a lot of free time to educate yourself. The overwhelming majority of people during period, didn't really have a lot of free time. There's a reason why, throughout history, it was always the upper classes which were typically educated and not the lower classes.

What did you think of the conversation between Aaron and Tan at the start? I would appreciate any input you have on that.

You might be disappointed, but, I really can't think of anything to say.

[Orostan]

I can edit the literacy part of the post away, but I was trying to show that these soldiers were from the core of the PGC where public education has been around the longest and promoted the strongest and where the benefits of being part of the PGC are felt the strongest. I will also not develop the power loom into something that can be used on a large scale until the next time skip. Right now it's supposed to be an early prototype anyway.

It's not a lack of effort on the PGC's part which makes literacy so difficult to produce, it's just the constraints of the time period. You need a lot of free time to educate yourself. The overwhelming majority of people during period, didn't really have a lot of free time. There's a reason why, throughout history, it was always the upper classes which were typically educated and not the lower classes.

What did you think of the conversation between Aaron and Tan at the start? I would appreciate any input you have on that.

You might be disappointed, but, I really can't think of anything to say.

Well, I guess nothing to say is better than bad things. If you think of anything please telegram me or say something here though.

I also was thinking that education would mostly be done in the winter where agricultural labor would be in low demand and where people would be staying inside. In my five year post I referenced that. I will in the future though try to characterize the literacy of a lot of the population as more basic stuff like reading signs and understanding the important bits of farm equipment manuals if you think that would be better.

[Orostan]

currently debating introducing egotist anarchism to the Mongolians.

[New Arcadius]

There's my post. Probably the longest one I had done yet. With over 11 pages of Google Docs.

I was on the prospects of keeping Khmeri, but I had an idea in my head of playing the plan Gaukhar had, and translated it into Menewa committing it.

And that there, is how I make my characters. She and her advisor are now properly introduced, and will be used more often as well as Khmeri. I don't know how Joohan will react but Egypt will now be a hotbed with the seed in place.

Give reactions and comments. thanks.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The increase in draw strength comes purely from that combination of factors - factors which allow the operator to go through multiple operations of the lever-arm before the weapon is ready to fire. It is a simple matter of greater storage of energy - a Zhuge crossbow can only fire with the translated energy of a single arm motion, whereas heavier repeaters are essentially 'pumped up' through the stages of the roll-locks, storing greater energetic potential in the bowstring than would be possible with a single motion.

What does a single operation look like?

The picture I have in my head, is a guy in a gambeson essentially working on a lever and pulling a drawstring back further and further and catching a series of nut's built into the stock until he's reached back to the position that he's ready to fire.

But why would you need multiple nuts? Nut's in it themselves don't help with the process of actually drawing. Perhaps there's something about the process of pumping I don't understand. If it takes multiple rotations in order to draw the string back to the desired position, then it sounds like it isn't as fast as it's been made out to be. Could you provide an example of this mechanism?

I've come across a process which could reasonably solve this issue - but I plan on using it for my guys, and I don't want to give you ideas.

Pretty much correct. The nuts are necessary to maintain the level of tension built up within the spanning process of the crossbow, since I don't want to integrate too complex of a mechanism into the process of the lever-action itself - without them, the release of tension for the back-action of the lever would return the bowstring to her original position, invalidating the pre-existing storage of potential energy. The nuts serve to 'lock in' the previous actions of the lever until the mechanism is in firing position.

A good analogy would be, say, carrying a heavy box up a flight of stairs in the building. If the box is so heavy that you can only carry it for twenty steps before you have to put it down, you want to put it down at the top of the twenty stairs, not let it tumble back to the bottom each time you have to stop. If you put it down at the the top of each flight of stairs, you make cumulative progress (20, 40, 60) that would otherwise be impossible to do all at once.

The same is true of the crossbow. A man's arm, even a trained warrior, will struggle to pull back a string with a tension of more than a few dozen pounds of force - that's why longbowmen and the like had deformed skeletal structures, because the strain and specialized musculature to exert axial force onto a bow sufficient to penetrate plate was immense. By breaking up the process of exerting the force into multiple actions, a greater overall tension in the crossbow can be achieved.

The action itself is relatively, if you are familiar with a goat's foot lever, though a repeater itself requires an additional slide action to allow the goat's foot lever to move independent of the bowstring. For heavier crossbows it will take a few pulls of the lever, which you can probably move smoothly and comfortably two or three times a second, to actually prime the weapon for firing.

[Joohan]

What does a single operation look like?

The picture I have in my head, is a guy in a gambeson essentially working on a lever and pulling a drawstring back further and further and catching a series of nut's built into the stock until he's reached back to the position that he's ready to fire.

But why would you need multiple nuts? Nut's in it themselves don't help with the process of actually drawing. Perhaps there's something about the process of pumping I don't understand. If it takes multiple rotations in order to draw the string back to the desired position, then it sounds like it isn't as fast as it's been made out to be. Could you provide an example of this mechanism?

I've come across a process which could reasonably solve this issue - but I plan on using it for my guys, and I don't want to give you ideas.

Pretty much correct. The nuts are necessary to maintain the level of tension built up within the spanning process of the crossbow, since I don't want to integrate too complex of a mechanism into the process of the lever-action itself - without them, the release of tension for the back-action of the lever would return the bowstring to her original position, invalidating the pre-existing storage of potential energy. The nuts serve to 'lock in' the previous actions of the lever until the mechanism is in firing position.

A good analogy would be, say, carrying a heavy box up a flight of stairs in the building. If the box is so heavy that you can only carry it for twenty steps before you have to put it down, you want to put it down at the top of the twenty stairs, not let it tumble back to the bottom each time you have to stop. If you put it down at the the top of each flight of stairs, you make cumulative progress (20, 40, 60) that would otherwise be impossible to do all at once.

The same is true of the crossbow. A man's arm, even a trained warrior, will struggle to pull back a string with a tension of more than a few dozen pounds of force - that's why longbowmen and the like had deformed skeletal structures, because the strain and specialized musculature to exert axial force onto a bow sufficient to penetrate plate was immense. By breaking up the process of exerting the force into multiple actions, a greater overall tension in the crossbow can be achieved.

The action itself is relatively, if you are familiar with a goat's foot lever, though a repeater itself requires an additional slide action to allow the goat's foot lever to move independent of the bowstring. For heavier crossbows it will take a few pulls of the lever, which you can probably move smoothly and comfortably two or three times a second, to actually prime the weapon for firing.

This is hilarious, because not only was I referencing the goats foot lever as the simpler method, but I was even tempted to drop the exact same video

The analogy though I would say isn't all too apt. In the case of the design you propose, it doesn't sound particularly practical; making the soldier have to pull the drawstring past several nuts till he can finally reach the firing position sounds strenuous and time consuming - anathema to the idea of a repeater.

Honestly, I would say the easiest and most efficient thing to do is just employ latchet bows, and give your more dedicated ranged troops goat foot levers. Simple design, easy to carry, simple to operate, decent power, and you're still getting a shot off about every 10-15 seconds.

[Joohan]

Arcadius, I just read your post

Fan-friggin-tastic! I absolutely loved it!

Khemri's drunk racism, the casual nudity, the dedication to dialogue * chef's kiss * wonderful

I'd like to point out that, as I stated in the event, Khemri is actually Djer's sister ( incest was pretty big back then ), and I don't know how willing she would have been to go back to him considering what a sadist he is - but due to the sheer quality of the post, forgetta boud it.

I would ask one thing though: at least until I get done with Alamora's collab, don't post again about Djer. I'm having him currently speak to the king.

Also... isn't Djer going to notice that all the warrior's who had kidnapped his wife were Siwan's? And, aren't the Siwan families going to ask questions about their dead men?

[New Arcadius]

Thanks Joohan!

I decided to take a different route. Honestly, I liked your concept, but I felt I could of done... more, to show that the Siwans are more than capable of carrying out Gaukhar's ambitions without Gaukhar herself. After all, they aren't stupid. With new knowledge, they are even smarter than before.

Never knew that Khmeri was his sister. I'll be sure to mention it next post when it comes to Khmeri. But honestly, she's just playing her part in the plan. She doesn't like Djer, but she's very aware of what she is going to do. Djer's days are numbered either way. And alright. I will leave him alone for now.

And he already suspected that it was the Siwans, but nevertheless, they did returned her and didn't asked for tribute, so he isn't all uppity about it. And it's usually hard to tell if they are Siwans or not, because the Western Desert has many tribes, they could of very well been Bedouins who had Egyptian weaponry, or mugged and raided a Siwan camp for weapons.

And these soldiers's families will probably be a bit irritated, yes, but it is a sacrifice that was need to be made. Besides, they will have a reason to see Egypt as a threat and needed to avenge them. im sure that something will be fabricated to have them believe the Egyptians did it, or they went rouge and decided to go bandit.

Remember Joohan, things need to go smoothly.

I am also gonna update my wiki page on the authors wiki. I need to fix a few things there too.

[Hanafuridake]

Khemri is actually Djer's sister

Somehow this RP became even more depraved after I left.

[Joohan]

Khemri is actually Djer's sister

Somehow this RP became even more depraved after I left.

Just wait till you see what I did to the Koreans.

[Orostan]

Somehow this RP became even more depraved after I left.

Just wait till you see what I did to the Koreans.

Is this going to relate to the china event?

[Hanafuridake]

Somehow this RP became even more depraved after I left.

Just wait till you see what I did to the Koreans.

Grace was probably going to cut their noses off some time in the future, so I don't think you can top that.

[Joohan]

Just wait till you see what I did to the Koreans.

Grace was probably going to cut their noses off some time in the future, so I don't think you can top that.

mutilating and maiming koreans?

hmm, I see... really into the whole, method acting, part of being japanese then?

[New Arcadius]

Hey guys, can you contribute to the wiki

Need info for Egypt and some locations because you guys roleplay in these areas a lot...

[Alaroma]

Seeing as my main plot posts are being a bit slow due to logistics, I shall try getting out a more tame post tonight. Also, I shall respond to you Johan, don’t worry.

[Orostan]

Posted again, this time I tried to focus on Aaron's willingness to use the amount of power he has and the decisions he makes when he does use that power.

In this post:
-China establishes a gulag system
-A village gets massacred for revolting
-Religion develops a little bit farther and a few bits of Chinese mythology begin emerging from the merging of local faiths happening on the Yellow river and in the rest of PGC territory
-and Aaron thinks about his role in society while two representations of that role are in front of him.

In the next post I will talk about how what happened in this one is responded to, and how the pattern of rural unrest will change as a result of that response. I will also try and talk more about Aaron's personal life.

As usual please tell me what you thought of the post and how i can improve. I hope there aren't too many errors or other mistakes that happened as a result of me rewriting large sections this post a few times.

[Europa Undivided]

China be making gulags before Russia lol

[Orostan]

China be making gulags before Russia lol

we qin dynasty now