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How should we carry on - ( comment what you voted after voting, THIS IS MANDATORY )

Poll ended at Mon May 11, 2020 5:40 am

1. Carry on in the year 2975
15
68%
2. Skip to the year 2970
3
14%
3. Skip to the year 2945
4
18%
 
Total votes : 22

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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Fri May 08, 2020 8:07 pm

Reatra wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Indeed.


Keep in mind we really aren't sure if Pharaohs were literally deified this far back. We know Menes, Djer's predecessor, was deified posthumously for sure, but we have no idea if we was during his life.

Egypt has been united for over a century, probably, but we don't know if they were still mega-chiefs or if they were living gods.


I'm no novice when it comes to Egyptian history. You'll note, also, that never once did I call Djer pharaoh of Egypt - as that title would not come about until the new kingdom. Likewise, i've not attributed Isis ( the patron goddess of Guakher's Siwan Empire ) to the Egyptian pantheon, as her conception likely has not come about yet ( and with Egyptian mythology actually being a lot more loose than what most people like to think ).
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Alaroma
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Postby Alaroma » Fri May 08, 2020 8:09 pm

Joohan wrote:
Alaroma wrote:Would someone (a mod or something) play as him?


Indeed.

I would like to make an arrangement then.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Fri May 08, 2020 8:10 pm

Alaroma wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Indeed.

I would like to make an arrangement then.


What did you have in mind?
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Alaroma
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Postby Alaroma » Fri May 08, 2020 8:14 pm

Joohan wrote:
Alaroma wrote:I would like to make an arrangement then.


What did you have in mind?

I want to send one of the King’s (and Andrew’s) lieutenants to meet the King, and initiate serious contact.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Fri May 08, 2020 8:15 pm

Alaroma wrote:
Joohan wrote:
What did you have in mind?

I want to send one of the King’s (and Andrew’s) lieutenants to meet the King, and initiate serious contact.


Sure. When is a good time for you to collab on doc's?
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Fri May 08, 2020 8:17 pm

Joohan wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Keep in mind we really aren't sure if Pharaohs were literally deified this far back. We know Menes, Djer's predecessor, was deified posthumously for sure, but we have no idea if we was during his life.

Egypt has been united for over a century, probably, but we don't know if they were still mega-chiefs or if they were living gods.


I'm no novice when it comes to Egyptian history. You'll note, also, that never once did I call Djer pharaoh of Egypt - as that title would not come about until the new kingdom. Likewise, i've not attributed Isis ( the patron goddess of Guakher's Siwan Empire ) to the Egyptian pantheon, as her conception likely has not come about yet ( and with Egyptian mythology actually being a lot more loose than what most people like to think ).


Yeah I know it wasn't used in the Old Kingdom, but it is what we call those Old Kingdom rulers today. As for the pantheon, yeah, hella, especially in this period it's unlikely that there is anything realllly unified, probably just a general conception of "oh wow, well, the ruler in Memphis is a Horus-son, so, I guess Horus is the main god"
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Alaroma
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Postby Alaroma » Fri May 08, 2020 8:29 pm

Joohan wrote:
Alaroma wrote:I want to send one of the King’s (and Andrew’s) lieutenants to meet the King, and initiate serious contact.


Sure. When is a good time for you to collab on doc's?

This weekend, tomorrow.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Fri May 08, 2020 8:29 pm

Alaroma wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Sure. When is a good time for you to collab on doc's?

This weekend, tomorrow.


Sure, just TG me the time and setting idea.
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Ah-eh-ioh-uh
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Postby Ah-eh-ioh-uh » Sat May 09, 2020 12:00 am

Hey Gtech... Or somebody... What is to be of Marcio and his group traveling to trade with the Hanajima? Under the assumption that both Marcio/the Onomichi and the Hanajima empire still exist, what's going to happen? You guys are busy probably which I understand. Of course I am also anxious as I haven't posted in the IC for a couple weeks...

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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat May 09, 2020 12:35 pm

So, in light of more than a few complaints about Europe being OP recently - in addition to the UBER bad events that we all recently got, I and G will also be moderating and retconing some of our activity. Essentially:

Steams engines are being reduced to mere trinkets and party tricks, incapable of effective or efficient usage. Wheel rifles are being completely ax'ed. Cannon's are now considered a rarity, and will seldom be employed by any party for the near future. The Dusk Union and the Imperium's expansion across the continent will be halted for the foreseeable future, allowing us all time to justify our consolidation of the territory that we have at the moment.
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Plzen
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Postby Plzen » Sat May 09, 2020 12:41 pm

Joohan wrote:So, in light of more than a few complaints about Europe being OP recently - in addition to the UBER bad events that we all recently got, I and G will also be moderating and retconing some of our activity. Essentially:

Steams engines are being reduced to mere trinkets and party tricks, incapable of effective or efficient usage. Wheel rifles are being completely ax'ed. Cannon's are now considered a rarity, and will seldom be employed by any party for the near future. The Dusk Union and the Imperium's expansion across the continent will be halted for the foreseeable future, allowing us all time to justify our consolidation of the territory that we have at the moment.

Now if only this happened two weeks earlier. :p

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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat May 09, 2020 12:42 pm

Plzen wrote:
Joohan wrote:So, in light of more than a few complaints about Europe being OP recently - in addition to the UBER bad events that we all recently got, I and G will also be moderating and retconing some of our activity. Essentially:

Steams engines are being reduced to mere trinkets and party tricks, incapable of effective or efficient usage. Wheel rifles are being completely ax'ed. Cannon's are now considered a rarity, and will seldom be employed by any party for the near future. The Dusk Union and the Imperium's expansion across the continent will be halted for the foreseeable future, allowing us all time to justify our consolidation of the territory that we have at the moment.

Now if only this happened two weeks earlier. :p


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Plzen
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Postby Plzen » Sat May 09, 2020 12:48 pm

Joohan wrote:Did you get my TG?

I did, but those aren't suggestions I'm terribly interested in taking up on. I think my story has been concluded quite nicely without having to drag it out over the rocks again.

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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat May 09, 2020 12:50 pm

Plzen wrote:
Joohan wrote:Did you get my TG?

I did, but those aren't suggestions I'm terribly interested in taking up on. I think my story has been concluded quite nicely without having to drag it out over the rocks again.


hmmm

Edit: would any of the commonwealth polities be willing to join the Union?
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Reatra
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Postby Reatra » Sat May 09, 2020 2:21 pm

Joohan wrote:
Plzen wrote:I did, but those aren't suggestions I'm terribly interested in taking up on. I think my story has been concluded quite nicely without having to drag it out over the rocks again.


hmmm

Edit: would any of the commonwealth polities be willing to join the Union?


yall can cross the Atlantic already? :p
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Postby Orostan » Sat May 09, 2020 2:44 pm

It seems that Rhinos may have once been present in ancient China in decent numbers.

Is rhinoceros cavalry possible?
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Postby Joohan » Sat May 09, 2020 3:07 pm

Orostan wrote:It seems that Rhinos may have once been present in ancient China in decent numbers.

Is rhinoceros cavalry possible?


As that has proven an impossible task historically, no.
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Postby Orostan » Sat May 09, 2020 3:09 pm

Joohan wrote:
Orostan wrote:It seems that Rhinos may have once been present in ancient China in decent numbers.

Is rhinoceros cavalry possible?


As that has proven an impossible task historically, no.

:(
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Postby Europa Undivided » Sat May 09, 2020 3:53 pm

Orostan wrote:
Joohan wrote:
As that has proven an impossible task historically, no.

:(

It only works if you're Wakanda.
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Postby Orostan » Sat May 09, 2020 4:28 pm

Will the use of Reatra's climate and population data be done by anyone other than me?
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 09, 2020 4:32 pm

Orostan wrote:Will the use of Reatra's climate and population data be done by anyone other than me?


We’ll be sticking to our existing datasets until otherwise indicated.
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Postby Orostan » Sat May 09, 2020 4:37 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Orostan wrote:Will the use of Reatra's climate and population data be done by anyone other than me?


We’ll be sticking to our existing datasets until otherwise indicated.

Alright, but Reatra seems to have done his research. Are you considering using at least his information on climate or having him determine the environmental conditions of various parts of the world when we need that type of information?
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat May 09, 2020 4:39 pm

Orostan wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
We’ll be sticking to our existing datasets until otherwise indicated.

Alright, but Reatra seems to have done his research. Are you considering using at least his information on climate or having him determine the environmental conditions of various parts of the world when we need that type of information?


Plzen put in several days of research on our current figures; I’m quite happy trusting her methodologies over those of Reatra.
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Postby Orostan » Sat May 09, 2020 4:42 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Orostan wrote:Alright, but Reatra seems to have done his research. Are you considering using at least his information on climate or having him determine the environmental conditions of various parts of the world when we need that type of information?


Plzen put in several days of research on our current figures; I’m quite happy trusting her methodologies over those of Reatra.

Reatra's figures ought to be considered anyways. They seem very detailed to me.
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Postby Europa Undivided » Sat May 09, 2020 4:47 pm

Orostan wrote:Will the use of Reatra's climate and population data be done by anyone other than me?

I would.

It would be nice if I had a settlement like Dovobrody with a population of upwards to 30,000.
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