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How should we carry on - ( comment what you voted after voting, THIS IS MANDATORY )

Poll ended at Mon May 11, 2020 5:40 am

1. Carry on in the year 2975
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2. Skip to the year 2970
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14%
3. Skip to the year 2945
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Total votes : 22

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Postby Reatra » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:12 am

woooooooo new OOC!!!

Also I love how the map of the Imperium follows the river systems, although maybe some other Author civs need to be mapped like this (¬‿¬)


I'll TG you the map I made rn, I only posted it in the Interim OOC and it prolly got lost in the posting haha. I made sure to try and follow the geography, too :D
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:33 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Author Application

Name: Bruno Davids
Age: 24
Height and Weight: 1.78m, 80kg
Skin, hair, and eye description: White, cleanly shaven, with short, messy, light brown hair and blue-grey eyes.
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Prior Profession:Labour union lawyer
Level of education: Bachelor in law, master's degree in treaty law, taken classes in labour law, ancient Egyptian law and history of public and private law
Physique description: Bruno has a relatively strong build, but lacks the endurance necessary to compete in sports. He has the strength to be good tennis player, but lacks the stamina to actually compete at higher levels.
Useful skills: Basic survival skills, teaching talent, oratory and legal knowledge

National Origin: Dutch
What were you doing prior to falling asleep and awakening in the past?: Walking through the city of Leiden
Description of personality: Bruno is a pacifist, who makes it his personal mission to please others. He suffers from major self esteem issues, which makes him very keen to please the people he meets. However, he is also motivated to work, and whenever he sets himself to a task, he wants to do it perfectly. Of course, no task can be done perfectly, which feeds into the loop of feeling inadequate.
Where in the world are you landing?: Around the Montpellier area, southern France

Autobiography/Biography: Bruno was born in 1995 to a moderately wealthy household. From early on in his life, he was intrigued by various subjects, including history, the sciences, and politics. Being granted a vivid imagination, he liked to imagine stories. His imagination and interest in various subjects, as well as his sensitive (some would say hypersensitive) nature, made him a favourite target of grade school bullies, whose treatment left permanent emotional baggage and self esteem issues. However, Bruno learnt that humour was a potent shield against those who would deride him, and became quite ad rem in that regard.

After high school, which was somewhat more bearable than grade school, Bruno went on to study law. It combined his interest in politics and the written word, and gave him an alley into possibly doing work that would be beneficial to others, which was the main reason for his choice of course. He had particular interest in legal history and human rights law, and went on to do a master's degree in public international law, specialising in the law of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. Following his studies, he applied for various jobs, and was eventually hired to a senior lawyer position in a large union. After having only worked there for a week, he was teleported into the past.

What are your intentions for this RP, what's the long term goal?: To build a world from the ground up, where no poverty exists and where everyone is cared for equally.
What people or places are you taking inspiration from?: I'm always inspired by Napoleon, although I am a pacifist. Just a mix of Augustus, Napoleon, Frederick II (of the Holy Roman Empire), and Justinian
Why did you chose to land where you did?: There is a lot of area to work with, it is rather fertile, but not very advanced yet.
What vibe should we get from your civilization and it's culture?: A civilisation not really concerned with glory and conquest, but rather with inward perfection. A kingdom of justice where laws bind both citizens and the government.
What are your character's motivations?: Equality and justice
Theme Song?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02PxQmHIQ5o
What do you wanna see in this RP? What would make it better?: Some civilisations might advance a bit too rapidly. It should take a lot of time for technology to progress, since manufacturing bases need a lot of population to create the economy necessary to sustainable use tech. Getting population up should be a primary goal of the players, since the size of an economy is primarily linked to its population.


It is finished!
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:47 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Author Application

Name: Bruno Davids
Age: 24
Height and Weight: 1.78m, 80kg
Skin, hair, and eye description: White, cleanly shaven, with short, messy, light brown hair and blue-grey eyes.
Picture:


Prior Profession:Labour union lawyer
Level of education: Bachelor in law, master's degree in treaty law, taken classes in labour law, ancient Egyptian law and history of public and private law
Physique description: Bruno has a relatively strong build, but lacks the endurance necessary to compete in sports. He has the strength to be good tennis player, but lacks the stamina to actually compete at higher levels.
Useful skills: Basic survival skills, teaching talent, oratory and legal knowledge

National Origin: Dutch
What were you doing prior to falling asleep and awakening in the past?: Walking through the city of Leiden
Description of personality: Bruno is a pacifist, who makes it his personal mission to please others. He suffers from major self esteem issues, which makes him very keen to please the people he meets. However, he is also motivated to work, and whenever he sets himself to a task, he wants to do it perfectly. Of course, no task can be done perfectly, which feeds into the loop of feeling inadequate.
Where in the world are you landing?: Around the Montpellier area, southern France

Autobiography/Biography: Bruno was born in 1995 to a moderately wealthy household. From early on in his life, he was intrigued by various subjects, including history, the sciences, and politics. Being granted a vivid imagination, he liked to imagine stories. His imagination and interest in various subjects, as well as his sensitive (some would say hypersensitive) nature, made him a favourite target of grade school bullies, whose treatment left permanent emotional baggage and self esteem issues. However, Bruno learnt that humour was a potent shield against those who would deride him, and became quite ad rem in that regard.

After high school, which was somewhat more bearable than grade school, Bruno went on to study law. It combined his interest in politics and the written word, and gave him an alley into possibly doing work that would be beneficial to others, which was the main reason for his choice of course. He had particular interest in legal history and human rights law, and went on to do a master's degree in public international law, specialising in the law of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. Following his studies, he applied for various jobs, and was eventually hired to a senior lawyer position in a large union. After having only worked there for a week, he was teleported into the past.

What are your intentions for this RP, what's the long term goal?: To build a world from the ground up, where no poverty exists and where everyone is cared for equally.
What people or places are you taking inspiration from?: I'm always inspired by Napoleon, although I am a pacifist. Just a mix of Augustus, Napoleon, Frederick II (of the Holy Roman Empire), and Justinian
Why did you chose to land where you did?: There is a lot of area to work with, it is rather fertile, but not very advanced yet.
What vibe should we get from your civilization and it's culture?: A civilisation not really concerned with glory and conquest, but rather with inward perfection. A kingdom of justice where laws bind both citizens and the government.
What are your character's motivations?: Equality and justice
Theme Song?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02PxQmHIQ5o
What do you wanna see in this RP? What would make it better?: Some civilisations might advance a bit too rapidly. It should take a lot of time for technology to progress, since manufacturing bases need a lot of population to create the economy necessary to sustainable use tech. Getting population up should be a primary goal of the players, since the size of an economy is primarily linked to its population.


It is finished!


This certainly all seems to be in order. Welcome, James. Your application is happily accepted.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:56 am

Reatra wrote:Also I love how the map of the Imperium follows the river systems, although maybe some other Author civs need to be mapped like this (¬‿¬)

If I map the Commonwealth at that level of detail... yeah. Hugs the coasts and rivers.

What Joohan has on the map right now is not a bad approximation, and has the benefit of not triggering various shape-related phobias.

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Big WIP

Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:30 am

So I don't just save the draft then completely forget about it

Also, I admit, this is a fairly exaggerated and improved version of me, but the base is still there I suppose

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Name: Erich Adler
Age: 28
Height and Weight: 5"7' and 68 kg
Skin, hair, and eye description: Light skin, blondish-brown hair, brown eyes
Picture:
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Prior Profession: Historian and Political Scientist
Level of education: A Master's degree in history, extensively home educated in business and economics by father (Bach degree in Business and has 30+ years of business economics), taken classes and experienced in rhetoric, writing, public speaking and improv (has attended and sponsored Model United Nations).
Physique Description: A somewhat muscular man, as someone who has regularly practised cardio, weight lifting and boxing, Adler is in fairly good shape, though has some stamina and physical problems, especially accounting for his eczema.
Useful skills: Historical knowledge, experienced orator and writer, some basic survival training (on account of his various school field trips, to which he usually picked either long-distance hiking or wilderness survival training), "charismatic" in the sense that he can get people to easily like him, trained in Thai Boxing and Krav Maga (more experienced in the former than the latter) (is that a useful skill?)

National Origin: German
What were you doing prior to falling asleep and awakening in the past?: Writing an essay/book about the folly of Marx's original ideology
Description of personality: Adler is a very enthusiastic person with a large sense of humour and loves to make other people laugh. He's a rather sensitive person who cares about a lot of things and people, though he mostly has control over his emotions, and very much cares about what others think of him. Though he loves having big discussions, sharing ideas and generally talking with people, he is rather self-conscious of his decisions and what he says which somewhat connects to the former point. However, he knows when to take things seriously and can often swallow any emotion or sensitivity he might have when it comes to decisions, as he is a great advocate of pragmatism and Real Politik. As a historian, he attempts to keep a non-bias view of any decision or situation and will usually try to make one that is fair (though there are exemptions when it comes to actions that might significantly benefit him).
Where in the world are you landing?: China, near Nanjing

Autobiography/Biography: Erich was born in Berlin as the third child of an extensively wealthy family: his father, initially a village boy, had grown to become a very successful stockbroker, having been CEO of the German branch of Securitas. From the moment his parents allowed him to watch "Saving Private Ryan" in their bedroom as an adolescent (of which to this day Erich still doesn't know why his parents decided to allow an adolescent to watch Saving Private Ryan) Erich's mind raced with a supreme interest in history and the arts. Intelligent and imaginative, yet plagued with social anxiety, awkwardness and obesity, Erich entered the educational sphere with initial hesitance, but grew to soon love and thrive when it came to learning history. Though initially only interested in military history, this simply grew as to know military history you'd have to know the politics, economics, and social situations of the time. And that's exactly what he did: soon enough (perhaps except music and art) Erich found himself engulfed and entranced in all categories of history (though military history always topped as his favourite).

As time progressed and he entered his later teen years, Erich's interests expanded to include modern politics and economics, the latter of which his father helped educate him in. He read about the world today and looked at the many trends that engulfed it. Politics and history soon grew into speaking as Erich entered the world of speeches and rhetoric to try and convince crowds through pretty words and booming speeches. Speeches and rhetoric soon made way for writing as well, as Erich soon grew passionate about writing stories and subjects: from fanfiction (CoD Zombies x Harry Potter, go figure) to online word-based RPing. These also led to Erich's interests with the performing arts, especially improv, where he learnt to make things up along the way and also be able to express his rather varied sense of humour.

Slowly his problems began to give way too. Awkwardness was hidden under layers upon layers of well-conceived mask. Social anxiety was engulfed in a facade of outgoingness. Obesity gave way for fitness and some muscle mass as Erich took up swimming (though due to his eczema skin condition, that option is no longer as viable as it once was), cardio, weight lifting and Thai boxing made him not as secure as he'd like but not as miserable as before. Overall, not a complete transformation, but definite improvements. By the time he graduated from the University of Leipzig, he was on his way for a life he rather liked. He pursued various occupations, first as a tour guide and intern for a history teacher, but then grew outwards. Soon enough he himself had become a historian, giving lectures at universities he once studied at and going to many debates on modern political issues. He began writing, though his choice of subjects were rather...controversial, to say the least (Marxism wasn't a good idea, Germany needs a little nationalism again, things along those lines). Overall, a rather comfortable life, and one that looked to have a rather good future.

Of course, as Feldmarschall Helmuth von Moltke (the Elder) "No plan survives first contact [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]."

What are your intentions for this RP, what's the long term goal?: Gain comfort around himself that can somewhat substitute for what he's lost in the modern-day, experiment with various ideas and attempt to apply them to the civilisation, build an empire I suppose (who doesn't like a good empire?)
What people or places are you taking inspiration from?: Georg Hegel, Roman Empire and Republic, Mongol Empire, Genghis Khan, Napoleon Bonaparte, Otto von Bismarck, Julius Caesar, Niccolò Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, Cao Cao
Why did you chose to land where you did?: Little competition (or at least little hostile competition), an abundance of resources, isolation from warmongers in the West
What vibe should we get from your civilization and it's culture?: I suppose a hard-working, organised and militaristic society, somewhat based on those of Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire. There might be illusions of freedom and liberty to keep the people happy, though the government itself (not the leader, but the government as a whole, including the "Senate") will likely be borderline Totalitarian in its power and control.
What are your character's motivations?: Greed, Wanderlust, Knowledge Lust, Curiosity, Desire for Comfort
Theme Song?: Alleyways & Truncheons
What do you wanna see in this RP? What would make it better?: A guide for new players would be rather nice, as well as a summary of events in the RP
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:31 am

I'm still struggling between locating in Italy or Spain

One is ideal trading ground (also big Roman boner) but the other has so many resources that could be exploited

Also what exactly does it mean by "What people or places are you taking inspiration from?" are we talking about how my character's gonna act or what the civilisation's gonna be like?
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Postby Plzen » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:03 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:I'm still struggling between locating in Italy or Spain

We just had an application for Southern France, who’s likely to be your immediate neighbour once the two of you get around to expanding your civilisations.

Italy also puts you vaguely in commercial range of Nestos and Sumer, which may be advantageous or disadvantageous depending on the exact sequence of events.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:10 am

Plzen wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:I'm still struggling between locating in Italy or Spain

We just had an application for Southern France, who’s likely to be your immediate neighbour once the two of you get around to expanding your civilisations.

Italy also puts you vaguely in commercial range of Nestos and Sumer, which may be advantageous or disadvantageous depending on the exact sequence of events.

One of the main reason Rome grew so powerful, as appropriately put by my old AP World History teacher, is that its "Right in the damn middle of everything," Rome is basically in the middle of the Mediterranean, so in the long term if I'm able to at least gain control of middle and Southern Italy, I'll become a major trade power.

At the same time, Spain has a shit ton of resources: iron, gold, copper, tungsten, which would be especially advantageous in this early period. Plus, gaining control of Gibraltar would also allow for quite an economic trade boon.

So, I'm struggling here
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Postby Plzen » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:43 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Plus, gaining control of Gibraltar would also allow for quite an economic trade boon.

I’m not sure that would be worth that much, to be honest; as far as I know neither of the British author civs do any great amount of commerce with the Near East, while the mainland European author civs can all get there easier by river portages than by going around Iberia.

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Postby Alaroma » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:51 am

Plzen wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Plus, gaining control of Gibraltar would also allow for quite an economic trade boon.

I’m not sure that would be worth that much, to be honest; as far as I know neither of the British author civs do any great amount of commerce with the Near East, while the mainland European author civs can all get there easier by river portages than by going around Iberia.

But let me tell you, the Aksumite position was better than expected
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Postby Orostan » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:58 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Plzen wrote:We just had an application for Southern France, who’s likely to be your immediate neighbour once the two of you get around to expanding your civilisations.

Italy also puts you vaguely in commercial range of Nestos and Sumer, which may be advantageous or disadvantageous depending on the exact sequence of events.

One of the main reason Rome grew so powerful, as appropriately put by my old AP World History teacher, is that its "Right in the damn middle of everything," Rome is basically in the middle of the Mediterranean, so in the long term if I'm able to at least gain control of middle and Southern Italy, I'll become a major trade power.

At the same time, Spain has a shit ton of resources: iron, gold, copper, tungsten, which would be especially advantageous in this early period. Plus, gaining control of Gibraltar would also allow for quite an economic trade boon.

So, I'm struggling here

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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:00 am

Orostan wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:One of the main reason Rome grew so powerful, as appropriately put by my old AP World History teacher, is that its "Right in the damn middle of everything," Rome is basically in the middle of the Mediterranean, so in the long term if I'm able to at least gain control of middle and Southern Italy, I'll become a major trade power.

At the same time, Spain has a shit ton of resources: iron, gold, copper, tungsten, which would be especially advantageous in this early period. Plus, gaining control of Gibraltar would also allow for quite an economic trade boon.

So, I'm struggling here

Come on over to the Middle Kingdom if you want. It’s like a normal kingdom, but in the middle.

Perhaps...maybe we could do a North-South split

Heck, we could cooperate with each other, beats the warmongering arses in the west

Plus China has a ton of resources that can be exploited...

Now this is an idea worth thinking about
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:02 am

Perhaps you'd be interested in both of us meeting early on if I ever pick China? Our respective skills could yield great results

Though our ideologies would definitely conflict, but my guy is a pragmatist
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Postby Orostan » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:07 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Perhaps you'd be interested in both of us meeting early on if I ever pick China? Our respective skills could yield great results

Though our ideologies would definitely conflict, but my guy is a pragmatist
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Orostan wrote:Come on over to the Middle Kingdom if you want. It’s like a normal kingdom, but in the middle.

Perhaps...maybe we could do a North-South split

Heck, we could cooperate with each other, beats the warmongering arses in the west

Plus China has a ton of resources that can be exploited...

Now this is an idea worth thinking about

That would be great. I’m going to start off in Luoyang I think, if you were to start off to the south we could have some great interactions when we get our states established.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:12 am

Orostan wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Perhaps you'd be interested in both of us meeting early on if I ever pick China? Our respective skills could yield great results

Though our ideologies would definitely conflict, but my guy is a pragmatist
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Perhaps...maybe we could do a North-South split

Heck, we could cooperate with each other, beats the warmongering arses in the west

Plus China has a ton of resources that can be exploited...

Now this is an idea worth thinking about

That would be great. I’m going to start off in Luoyang I think, if you were to start off to the south we could have some great interactions when we get our states established.

Sweet, I'll think about it

Though be warned that any civilisation I create will be somewhat distinctly European in nature, it's not that I don't know Chinese culture or history, I'm just better versed and recognise European history more

But anyhow, can't wait until something like this can start being blasted into the air

Damnit, where's my old AP World History textbook? I need to read up on Bronze Age China again....
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:17 am

A tip for China: rice is key. Rice is as easy to grow as wheat and can bring in significantly more crop yields. It's why China grew into such a powerhouse in power and population, though rice alone didn't give enough nutrients for Chinese people to grow that much, the pure amount of rice being grown and harvested gave them the energy to breed much more and maintain a large population.

Also, it's probably a good idea not to pursue the whole "Mandate of Heaven" thing, lest you want a flood to lead to your downfall as angry peasant see it as "Heaven being angry"

Would your character know this? Idk
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Postby Joohan » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:19 am

I'm going to be doing a training event in the field for the next three days, so I do not know how much I will be able to check up on you guys until then. G should be able to help any of you if you have questions
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:22 am

Joohan wrote:I'm going to be doing a training event in the field for the next three days, so I do not know how much I will be able to check up on you guys until then. G should be able to help any of you if you have questions

Could you quickly check over my app so far and see what I should edit?
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Postby Orostan » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:27 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Orostan wrote:That would be great. I’m going to start off in Luoyang I think, if you were to start off to the south we could have some great interactions when we get our states established.

Sweet, I'll think about it

Though be warned that any civilisation I create will be somewhat distinctly European in nature, it's not that I don't know Chinese culture or history, I'm just better versed and recognise European history more

But anyhow, can't wait until something like this can start being blasted into the air

Damnit, where's my old AP World History textbook? I need to read up on Bronze Age China again....

I think we’re starting even before some of the earliest Chinese myths. I’m going to have the area around Luoyang be divided into city states because there hasn’t been a real Chinese dynasty yet. The Xia dynasty wouldn’t even have been founded yet and I’m a few hundred years from the start of Chinese mythological history I think.

I was going to make a government based on western philosophy too but with some eastern bits.

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:A tip for China: rice is key. Rice is as easy to grow as wheat and can bring in significantly more crop yields. It's why China grew into such a powerhouse in power and population, though rice alone didn't give enough nutrients for Chinese people to grow that much, the pure amount of rice being grown and harvested gave them the energy to breed much more and maintain a large population.

Also, it's probably a good idea not to pursue the whole "Mandate of Heaven" thing, lest you want a flood to lead to your downfall

I figure that before the founding of any dynasty China was probably divided into city states. There’s very little historical record of this time period in China though. The Mandate of Heaven is going to be a factor when my guy is living in the city state of Luoyang, but once he gets into power he will likely make saying “mandate of heaven” in reference to himself illegal or something.
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“It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed hungry person. True freedom can only be where there is no exploitation and oppression of one person by another; where there is not unemployment, and where a person is not living in fear of losing his job, his home and his bread. Only in such a society personal and any other freedom can exist for real and not on paper.” -J. V. STALIN
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:00 am

Here's a resource map of China btw I think we'll find useful

http://www.chinatouristmaps.com/china-m ... urces.html

Right, so I think I've pretty much decided to settle in China, now I'm deciding between Shanghai and Nanjing

Of course, the only problem is finding out exactly what the state of both are in by 2700 BCE
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Postby Alaroma » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:01 am

Freaking China.

Speaking of, rice has always been a favorite of mine, and I have terrain where it could be realistically be grown, I just need to get my hands on it. This wasba huge issue for me when I was playing an Ethiopia in the late 19th century in another RP. I secured our food security with Rice enabling me to go about my modernization program.
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The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Here's a resource map of China btw I think we'll find useful

http://www.chinatouristmaps.com/china-m ... urces.html

Right, so I think I've pretty much decided to settle in China, now I'm deciding between Shanghai and Nanjing

Of course, the only problem is finding out exactly what the state of both are in by 2700 BCE

Luoyang has been settled since Neolithic times, so right now I think we are in the early stages of the development of concepts like the Mandate of Heaven and Chinese religions. There are no large empires, and only likely city states and tribe groupings.

Nanjing has iron and is reasonably close to where I’ll be. Seeing the resource map makes me want to claim the area around Beijing for its Iron after forming an actual state.
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

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Postby Orostan » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:08 am

Alaroma wrote:Freaking China.

Speaking of, rice has always been a favorite of mine, and I have terrain where it could be realistically be grown, I just need to get my hands on it. This wasba huge issue for me when I was playing an Ethiopia in the late 19th century in another RP. I secured our food security with Rice enabling me to go about my modernization program.

I’ll sell you rice once trade becomes a thing. If you know about the western world you might be the middle men between Chinese industry and European buyers.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:10 am

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Here's a resource map of China btw I think we'll find useful

http://www.chinatouristmaps.com/china-m ... urces.html

Right, so I think I've pretty much decided to settle in China, now I'm deciding between Shanghai and Nanjing

Of course, the only problem is finding out exactly what the state of both are in by 2700 BCE

Luoyang has been settled since Neolithic times, so right now I think we are in the early stages of the development of concepts like the Mandate of Heaven and Chinese religions. There are no large empires, and only likely city states and tribe groupings.

Nanjing has iron and is reasonably close to where I’ll be. Seeing the resource map makes me want to claim the area around Beijing for its Iron after forming an actual state.

Well according to Wikipedia: "Zun, a kind of wine vessel, was found to exist in Beiyinyangying culture of Nanjing in about 5000 years ago."

So I think it'd be somewhat reasonable to assume that there'd also be a city-state of some sorts in Nanjing
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