New Civilizations (2nd Era, OOC, Always Open )

[Europa Undivided]

The Vitachi were actually going to stop using iron as they found it hella difficult to smelt it within a few days.

Then I found coal and invented a blast furnace, which also took a whole damn month.

How the hell does your character know how to do it let alone know where's iron deposits are?

1. A bloomery forge is pretty simple to make if you know the principle behind it.

2. I know where Russia's iron is because IRL me knows that the Tula Region South of Moscow has iron deposits.

[Ralnis]

How the hell does your character know how to do it let alone know where's iron deposits are?

1. A bloomery forge is pretty simple to make if you know the principle behind it.

2. I know where Russia's iron is because IRL me knows that the Tula Region South of Moscow has iron deposits.

And how does Bloomery translates to blast furnace?

[Europa Undivided]

1. A bloomery forge is pretty simple to make if you know the principle behind it.

2. I know where Russia's iron is because IRL me knows that the Tula Region South of Moscow has iron deposits.

And how does Bloomery translates to blast furnace?

I actually don't need a blast furnace to be able to smelt iron. A blast furnace is better, sure, but a bloomery can also get the job done, if not as good.

[Nuxipal]

How the hell does your character know how to do it let alone know where's iron deposits are?

1. A bloomery forge is pretty simple to make if you know the principle behind it.

2. I know where Russia's iron is because IRL me knows that the Tula Region South of Moscow has iron deposits.

1. The right type of bricks would be quite important to making that bloomery. And in a culture that was pre-copper age when you arrived, yeah. I don't think they'd be making Iron anytime soon even with your help.

2. Just because it has iron deposits irl today, does not mean it has accessible iron deposits on 3000 BCE. Remember, mining technology has advanced considerably to this point. Even in ~2000 years southern Russia's local population probably wouldn't have found every iron deposit we know about today. Sure you could help them find those deposits, but even then. Knowing exact locations and how deep you'd need to make the mine and the ability to keep the mines from collapsing at those depths. Those are the real problems you'd need to solve to smelt iron. I really feel most people shouldn't be sniffing this yet. Iron should be a rarity, even with author interventions.

[The GAmeTopians]

1. A bloomery forge is pretty simple to make if you know the principle behind it.

2. I know where Russia's iron is because IRL me knows that the Tula Region South of Moscow has iron deposits.

1. The right type of bricks would be quite important to making that bloomery. And in a culture that was pre-copper age when you arrived, yeah. I don't think they'd be making Iron anytime soon even with your help.

2. Just because it has iron deposits irl today, does not mean it has accessible iron deposits on 3000 BCE. Remember, mining technology has advanced considerably to this point. Even in ~2000 years southern Russia's local population probably wouldn't have found every iron deposit we know about today. Sure you could help them find those deposits, but even then. Knowing exact locations and how deep you'd need to make the mine and the ability to keep the mines from collapsing at those depths. Those are the real problems you'd need to solve to smelt iron. I really feel most people shouldn't be sniffing this yet. Iron should be a rarity, even with author interventions.

Meanwhile, Crete should already be in the bronze age when I drop.

[Bortslovakia]

Bort, when I write the books is ok if I fluff out minor elements of Hibernia such as rituals, prices, names of delegates, and others and just pass major additions by you?

Sure, as long as it doesn't conflict with anything I've written in the past. I'll let you know if that's the case though, so don't feel the need to constrain yourself.

[Europa Undivided]

Uh, no. I've looked it up and the area around Moscow has yielded bronze and copper tools dating from 3000 BC. They aren't pre-copper.

[Wysten]

Bort, when I write the books is ok if I fluff out minor elements of Hibernia such as rituals, prices, names of delegates, and others and just pass major additions by you?

Sure, as long as it doesn't conflict with anything I've written in the past. I'll let you know if that's the case though, so don't feel the need to constrain yourself.

Fantastic because I plan to write a quick little synopsis on everything save for Dublin.

[Wysten]

Quick story based question, should I write them out in one post or have a short half be about him visiting it and then writing about it or just keep the writing?

[Kelmet]

1. The right type of bricks would be quite important to making that bloomery. And in a culture that was pre-copper age when you arrived, yeah. I don't think they'd be making Iron anytime soon even with your help.

2. Just because it has iron deposits irl today, does not mean it has accessible iron deposits on 3000 BCE. Remember, mining technology has advanced considerably to this point. Even in ~2000 years southern Russia's local population probably wouldn't have found every iron deposit we know about today. Sure you could help them find those deposits, but even then. Knowing exact locations and how deep you'd need to make the mine and the ability to keep the mines from collapsing at those depths. Those are the real problems you'd need to solve to smelt iron. I really feel most people shouldn't be sniffing this yet. Iron should be a rarity, even with author interventions.

Meanwhile, Crete should already be in the bronze age when I drop.

Makes it a little harder to take control tho don't it?

[The GAmeTopians]

Meanwhile, Crete should already be in the bronze age when I drop.

Makes it a little harder to take control tho don't it?

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

[Wysten]

Makes it a little harder to take control tho don't it?

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

With what infrastructure? The general problem with this RP I have seen save for a few peeps is that everyone is getting ahead of themselves. Focus on having a solid infrastructure, population, and government before trying to leap towards the Iron Age.

[Kelmet]

Makes it a little harder to take control tho don't it?

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

Going for more of a city state on an island thing or island spanning empire?

[Kelmet]

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

With what infrastructure? The general problem with this RP I have seen save for a few peeps is that everyone is getting ahead of themselves. Focus on having a solid infrastructure, population, and government before trying to leap towards the Iron Age.

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[The GAmeTopians]

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

With what infrastructure? The general problem with this RP I have seen save for a few peeps is that everyone is getting ahead of themselves. Focus on having a solid infrastructure, population, and government before trying to leap towards the Iron Age.

I agree. But how I eventually take control will be with those unique advancements - I don't need to be in charge to build infrastructure, just need to take my time and build relationships with people.

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

Going for more of a city state on an island thing or island spanning empire?

First the former, then the latter.

[Orostan]

And how does Bloomery translates to blast furnace?

I actually don't need a blast furnace to be able to smelt iron. A blast furnace is better, sure, but a bloomery can also get the job done, if not as good.

lol no it can't

A blast furnace is way more efficient than that.

[Europa Undivided]

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

With what infrastructure? The general problem with this RP I have seen save for a few peeps is that everyone is getting ahead of themselves. Focus on having a solid infrastructure, population, and government before trying to leap towards the Iron Age.

I have been doing some research and what I see is that Russia and Ukraine had advanced cultures centuries before 3,000 BC. There's a series of advanced townships dotted around the Ural Steppes, and the Moscow area has shown artifacts that put whoever lived there were already well into the Bronze Age.

I think I just have to continue improving on infra and grow the population; the federation that I have right now works well the way it is right now.

[Europa Undivided]

I actually don't need a blast furnace to be able to smelt iron. A blast furnace is better, sure, but a bloomery can also get the job done, if not as good.

lol no it can't

A blast furnace is way more efficient than that.

It can. It's just less efficient.

(Don't worry I'll make blast furnaces in 10 years)

[Ralnis]

Meh. There are plenty of other advancements I can bring to the table with Mechanical Engineering, Chemistry, and general modern knowledge.

With what infrastructure? The general problem with this RP I have seen save for a few peeps is that everyone is getting ahead of themselves. Focus on having a solid infrastructure, population, and government before trying to leap towards the Iron Age.

And those who have done it are those who are the current world powers.

[Orostan]

lol no it can't

A blast furnace is way more efficient than that.

It can. It's just less efficient.

(Don't worry I'll make blast furnaces in 10 years)

A bloomery makes iron, but making large quantities is going to be very hard and will take a long time.

[Kafair]

Tries understanding what any of this is while failing miserably

Anyone got like, a very simple explanation or some tips on how to get started beyond just making a char? Looking to join but seriously not sure if I am very well suited to this kind of thing.

[Europa Undivided]

It can. It's just less efficient.

(Don't worry I'll make blast furnaces in 10 years)

A bloomery makes iron, but making large quantities is going to be very hard and will take a long time.

I know

That's why we make many bloomeries.

But of course, civilian application is the current priority for the next few years. Waging war is a waste.

[Orostan]

Tries understanding what any of this is while failing miserably

Anyone got like, a very simple explanation or some tips on how to get started beyond just making a char? Looking to join but seriously not sure if I am very well suited to this kind of thing.

The character should know everything you do and apart from that can be as similar to how you are in real life or as different as you want, provided they don't know things you don't know of course.

If you don't think that you are able to start up your own civilization I advise you to join an existing civilization, possibly my Chinese civilization. But being from the 21st century your character should be able to introduce numerous innovations even in the most primitive parts of the world.

A bloomery makes iron, but making large quantities is going to be very hard and will take a long time.

I know

That's why we make many bloomeries.

That will take an enormous amount of labor, do you have the people to do that?

[Kafair]

Tries understanding what any of this is while failing miserably

Anyone got like, a very simple explanation or some tips on how to get started beyond just making a char? Looking to join but seriously not sure if I am very well suited to this kind of thing.

The character should know everything you do and apart from that can be as similar to how you are in real life or as different as you want, provided they don't know things you don't know of course.

If you don't think that you are able to start up your own civilization I advise you to join an existing civilization, possibly my Chinese civilization. But being from the 21st century your character should be able to introduce numerous innovations even in the most primitive parts of the world.

I know

That's why we make many bloomeries.

That will take an enormous amount of labor, do you have the people to do that?

We are like a stupidly far back, so most (if any) of the historical stuff I do now wont do too much, so joining a civilization would be my best bet. Anything important (char aside) I should keep in mind before jumping in? Also, can my char not know anything I dont know IRL? And how does age work (needs to be my age?)

[Europa Undivided]

Tries understanding what any of this is while failing miserably

Anyone got like, a very simple explanation or some tips on how to get started beyond just making a char? Looking to join but seriously not sure if I am very well suited to this kind of thing.

The character should know everything you do and apart from that can be as similar to how you are in real life or as different as you want, provided they don't know things you don't know of course.

If you don't think that you are able to start up your own civilization I advise you to join an existing civilization, possibly my Chinese civilization. But being from the 21st century your character should be able to introduce numerous innovations even in the most primitive parts of the world.

I know

That's why we make many bloomeries.

That will take an enormous amount of labor, do you have the people to do that?

Enough to make enough to make enough tools for the farmers and builders in three settlements.

My population is past 10,000. I'm pretty sure that's enough to make a few forges in the larger settlements, no?