New Civilizations (2nd Era, OOC, Always Open )

[Plzen]

Does the Commonwealth have crossbows, or are those a purely Imperial weapon?

We have access to such, yes.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I'm surprised no ones picked up in Mali yet

Because...you know

"Why are we mining for this shiny metal?"

"Shut up, in 100 years we are going to pretend this is super valuable"

"What will it be used for?"

"Computers, mostly, in 400 years"

"Do you know how to make those?"

"No..."

[Kelmet]

I'm surprised no ones picked up in Mali yet

Because...you know

"Why are we mining for this shiny metal?"

"Shut up, in 100 years we are going to pretend this is super valuable"

"What will it be used for?"

"Computers, mostly, in 400 years"

"Do you know how to make those?"

"No..."

Gold makes an excellent currency for a wide arrange of reasons.

[Plzen]

Pumping lots of hard currency into an economy with not all that much in the way of real productivity is a quick and dirty way to discredit the very concept of money.

Hyperinflation!

[Alaroma]

"Why are we mining for this shiny metal?"

"Shut up, in 100 years we are going to pretend this is super valuable"

"What will it be used for?"

"Computers, mostly, in 400 years"

"Do you know how to make those?"

"No..."

Gold makes an excellent currency for a wide arrange of reasons.

Gold is only valuable to us because the Sumerians find it value, and we value what have because they help add value to the Aksumite economy. Ie tech, mining, architecture, shipbuilding,etc.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

I'm surprised no ones picked up in Mali yet

Because...you know

"Why are we mining for this shiny metal?"

"Shut up, in 100 years we are going to pretend this is super valuable"

"What will it be used for?"

"Computers, mostly, in 400 years"

"Do you know how to make those?"

"No..."

Dude, let's be real, people developed a value for gold for a reason in the real-world

To try and alter things so that gold becomes worthless or something in modern society or any society is incredibly unlikely

So yes, I do think that someone ought to try and exploit the vast wealth of gold mines despite its apparent practical worthlessness

[Alaroma]

"Why are we mining for this shiny metal?"

"Shut up, in 100 years we are going to pretend this is super valuable"

"What will it be used for?"

"Computers, mostly, in 400 years"

"Do you know how to make those?"

"No..."

Dude, let's be real, people developed a value for gold for a reason in the real-world

To try and alter things so that gold becomes worthless or something in modern society or any society is incredibly unlikely

So yes, I do think that someone ought to try and exploit the vast wealth of gold mines despite its apparent practical worthlessness

I mean there’s no doubt it willing become valuable eventually, however that’s not the first step. The first step is developing a society that might find value in it. Truth be told, Gold doesn’t stay in Aksumite hands long, it’s usually being used for buying other products.

[Lazarian]

Gold is just a good material for currency. Rare, can be used for jewelry and decoration, doesn't corrode, and relatively easily molded. It's not ultimately too surprising why it's had value throughout the centuries.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Does the Commonwealth have crossbows, or are those a purely Imperial weapon?

We have access to such, yes.

The Hibernians also use crossbows, and I believe Sumer was looking into such innovations as well.

Light hand-drawn crossbows are pretty straightforward to manufacture, with a decent understand of tension mechanics, wood glues, carpentry, and simple mechanical parts. I presume most Authors will end up using them eventually, since population growth barring true disasters will rapidly outstrip attempts to instill a longbow-ethic into burgeoning populaces, and even primitive armor isn't terrible at defeating short and recurve bows.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Oh, Universal?

Not to rain on a parade or anything, but there's no physical way Illyrians could be fighting shipping from Uruk. Not unless you're having them portage their ships across Egypt into the Red Sea and, well, that's impossible.

[Guuj Xaat Kil]

Longbow gang longbow gang
3 hex range whatchu gonna do about it.

[Khasinkonia]

I remember joining an older iteration of this, and I have to say after reading the IC from here, I'm delighted to see that there's a much different pacing. I'm considering joining again, but I'm torn as to where to join.

I'm considering taking another stab at Korea, or perhaps China or Vietnam.

I'm quite indecisive though, so I would appreciate a guiding hand or a recommendation!

[Ralnis]

So here's the twist of fate everyone. Luther is joining Uruk and conquering Ur, ushering stability while he still plays nation building.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I remember joining an older iteration of this, and I have to say after reading the IC from here, I'm delighted to see that there's a much different pacing. I'm considering joining again, but I'm torn as to where to join.

I'm considering taking another stab at Korea, or perhaps China or Vietnam.

I'm quite indecisive though, so I would appreciate a guiding hand or a recommendation!

China has two authors already. You could attempt to pull a collective effort to defend from the western powers. Or you could to your own way as Korea or Vietnam. We get Japan authors everyone and then, so Korea would basically be between two author powers. Vietnam offers more room until your borders hit India's and China's respective authors.

[Khasinkonia]

I remember joining an older iteration of this, and I have to say after reading the IC from here, I'm delighted to see that there's a much different pacing. I'm considering joining again, but I'm torn as to where to join.

I'm considering taking another stab at Korea, or perhaps China or Vietnam.

I'm quite indecisive though, so I would appreciate a guiding hand or a recommendation!

China has two authors already. You could attempt to pull a collective effort to defend from the western powers. Or you could to your own way as Korea or Vietnam. We get Japan authors everyone and then, so Korea would basically be between two author powers. Vietnam offers more room until your borders hit India's and China's respective authors.

Is the map out of date then? I'd love to contact the authors and chat for a bit before I make a decision.

[G-Tech Corporation]

China has two authors already. You could attempt to pull a collective effort to defend from the western powers. Or you could to your own way as Korea or Vietnam. We get Japan authors everyone and then, so Korea would basically be between two author powers. Vietnam offers more room until your borders hit India's and China's respective authors.

Is the map out of date then? I'd love to contact the authors and chat for a bit before I make a decision.

Oh no - the Chinese Authors have just applied. There's no reason at all you can't join them.

[Plzen]

I'm quite indecisive though, so I would appreciate a guiding hand or a recommendation!

Russia. Be Russia. We really need more people in Europe before G-Tech overruns all of us.

[Lazarian]

Does the Commonwealth have a calendar, or the concept of a year?

[Bortslovakia]

We have access to such, yes.

The Hibernians also use crossbows, and I believe Sumer was looking into such innovations as well.

Light hand-drawn crossbows are pretty straightforward to manufacture, with a decent understand of tension mechanics, wood glues, carpentry, and simple mechanical parts. I presume most Authors will end up using them eventually, since population growth barring true disasters will rapidly outstrip attempts to instill a longbow-ethic into burgeoning populaces, and even primitive armor isn't terrible at defeating short and recurve bows.

Also worth noting we're all using different kinds of crossbows.

The Imperials make heavy use of repeaters. Slow reload, generally weaker than a single shot crossbow, but G's improved the design, and the high rate of fire means the enemy will rarely survive one or two volleys.

Hibernia uses single shot crossbows probably comparable to a windlass. Fast reload, and packs a punch. Naturally fires fewer bolts, what with the constant reloading, but at a longer range and without as much hassle (repeaters are clunky).

The Commonwealth and Sumer never really established what their intent was beyond "crossbows," so I can only assume they're relatively primitive and light. Maybe the Commonwealth has nicked a few Irish designs.

Icedonia, with their small, specialized army, use longbows. Obvious advantages are rate of fire, range, and better training usually makes for more consistent volleys. Obvious disadvantages are that archers have to expose themselves, take years to properly train, and in some cases have greater difficulty punching through armor.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I'm quite indecisive though, so I would appreciate a guiding hand or a recommendation!

Russia. Be Russia. We really need more people in Europe before G-Tech overruns all of us.

Heh, that'd complete the encirclement. Author in the east, author in the west, Commonwealth in the north, and Nestos in the south...

[Ralnis]

I have established that Sumer uses heavy and light variants with lever and repeating crossbows coming in the scene.

[Bortslovakia]

Russia. Be Russia. We really need more people in Europe before G-Tech overruns all of us.

Heh, that'd complete the encirclement. Author in the east, author in the west, Commonwealth in the north, and Nestos in the south...

And absolutely none of ya are fighting the Imperium right

[Holy Tedalonia]

Heh, that'd complete the encirclement. Author in the east, author in the west, Commonwealth in the north, and Nestos in the south...

And absolutely none of ya are fighting the Imperium right

Being a imperial soldier I have no qualms with the Imperium. That being said, being surrounded by potential enemies is a national security concern that hopefully be dealt with in time.

[Khasinkonia]

Is the map out of date then? I'd love to contact the authors and chat for a bit before I make a decision.

Oh no - the Chinese Authors have just applied. There's no reason at all you can't join them.

I mean it not so much in the sense of asking permission as getting a feel, and seeing if I might like to plop in the same area, or go somewhere different. I'm leaning towards Korea or maybe Manchuria, since my character will have been a doctor working in Nunavut.

Yep. Asia seems much more peaceful.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The Imperials make heavy use of repeaters. Slow reload, generally weaker than a single shot crossbow, but G's improved the design, and the high rate of fire means the enemy will rarely survive one or two volleys.

More like a punctuated rate of fire, really - reciprocating crossbows can fire very rapidly, but once their magazines are empty, they need a longer period to recharge said magazines from secondary ammunition sources. They fire at very similar strength to conventional crossbows drawn by hand, but are really meant for allowing a small amount of men to engage a larger force in a single burst of decisive fire - and so not so great for prolonged engagements or against any armor stronger than iron mail.

We also deploy windlass crossbows, but those are necessarily quite heavy and slow to reload, and so usually deployed in fireteams or pavise systems.

Both forms of weapon are really meant to be fired in flat trajectories, which limits their efficacy at range, but that doesn't mean volley fire is impossible - just not preferable.