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American Pere Housh wrote:

American Pere Housh wrote:GDP in $US:$10,355,655,854
Estimated Population:229,058,886
Other Information:no
08092020 TRACKING PURPOSES

Zjaum wrote:

American Pere Housh wrote:

Um, just so you know, 10 billion dollars is a hilariously low GDP. Brazil's current GDP rests at about 2 trillion dollars, and its projections for 2060 are at about 6 trillion. My recommendation is to put it at 4 trillion, or a similar number.

Northern Poland wrote:

Zjaum wrote:Um, just so you know, 10 billion dollars is a hilariously low GDP. Brazil's current GDP rests at about 2 trillion dollars, and its projections for 2060 are at about 6 trillion. My recommendation is to put it at 4 trillion, or a similar number.

Yeah, that's lower than Modern North korea, with a 40 Billion GDP for the hermit kingdom!

Albennia wrote:US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

Bentus wrote:

Albennia wrote:US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

Northern Poland wrote:Probably Southern Asia, ROC, or communist China

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.

Bentus wrote:

Northern Poland wrote:Probably Southern Asia, ROC, or communist China

That's what I was thinking. On the one hand I think it'd be an interesting development to explore since those countries aren't necessarily that used to mass immigration - but it would also radically increase their populations, which would in turn impact their GDP calculations.

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The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.

I agree. Though could say that the difference was made up by a big chunk of the Indian diaspora moving to the US?

American Pere Housh wrote:

American Pere Housh wrote:NS Name:American Pere Housh
Formal Nation Name:Federal Republic of Brazil
Informal Nation Name:Brazil
Description or Map of Territory:all 2040 territory
Capital City:Brasilia
Link To National Anthem:https://youtu.be/7lc9bcN7ecQ%20klkhv
Flag:(Image)
Current Ruling Political Party:Social Conservative Party
Current Head of State:Emilio Vazquez
Ideology:Conservative
History Since 2019:Same above history
Overview of Nation's Economy:Since the end of WW3, Brazil went the way of the United States by declaring isolation in order to rebuild the Brazilian economy and infrastructure. In 2038, Brazil open its border to foreign investors which allowed its economy to to take off.
Overview of Nation's Political Structure:Federal Presidential Democracy ruled by the President, a Bicameral Federal Congress consisting of the Senate and the House of Deputies. The Judiciary system consists of a Supreme Court, several courts of appeals and federal district courts. The 2 main political parties in Brazil is the Social Conservative Party and the Social Democratic Party.
Overview of Foreign Relations:Has close relations with nations of the Entente especially the U.S., the Eurasian Federation, Japan, North and South Korea, Australia, Taiwan, and Mexico. Relations with other nations are neutral.
Name of Armed Forces:Brazilian Armed Forces
Land Army Name and Size:Brazilian Army, 750,000
Navy Name and Size:Federal Brazilian Navy, 150,000
Air Force Name and Size:Brazilian Air Force, 200,000
Other Military Branches:Brazilian Marine Corps, 150,000
GDP in $US:$10,355,655,854
Estimated Population:229,058,886
Other Information:no
08092020 TRACKING PURPOSES

Bentus wrote:

Albennia wrote:US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

New Demorvian wrote:On the part about India and Pakistan, 500 million died by 2030, around 300 million fled, the rest were forced to stay behind in a lawless, radioactive wasteland. Bangladesh collapsed due to both mass migration and spreading nuclear fallout. Fallout didn't spread far in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and the Himalayas. Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Oman were partially hit by the fallout. Millions didn't die in those areas, but there was a spike in cancer rates. By 2040, there would probably only be around 200-300 million people left in India and Pakistan.

Bentus wrote:

New Demorvian wrote:On the part about India and Pakistan, 500 million died by 2030, around 300 million fled, the rest were forced to stay behind in a lawless, radioactive wasteland. Bangladesh collapsed due to both mass migration and spreading nuclear fallout. Fallout didn't spread far in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and the Himalayas. Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Oman were partially hit by the fallout. Millions didn't die in those areas, but there was a spike in cancer rates. By 2040, there would probably only be around 200-300 million people left in India and Pakistan.

Bloody hell. So that's about 1/7 of the world's population being killed right there? Kind of makes the rest of the war look almost tame in comparison kind of interested to see what the rest of the world has been doing in response to that.

Edit: Actually, a bit closer to 11% after crunching the numbers - my b

New Demorvian wrote:I'm thinking about occasionally putting "random events" in the IC. Basically, an event of my choosing happens. Whether it be a natural disaster, disease outbreak, political and civil unrest, ETC To keep things fresh.

New Demorvian wrote:

New Demorvian wrote:I'm thinking about occasionally putting "random events" in the IC. Basically, an event of my choosing happens. Whether it be a natural disaster, disease outbreak, political and civil unrest, ETC To keep things fresh.

More about these, I'll format them in the style of news reports, (The BBC in this case) and it's supposed to mostly affect countries with nobody playing them. First one is Here. Have fun with these.

Northern Poland wrote:

New Demorvian wrote:More about these, I'll format them in the style of news reports, (The BBC in this case) and it's supposed to mostly affect countries with nobody playing them. First one is Here. Have fun with these.

So if Bavaria is an independent country, and the Germans are sending troops...illegal intervention?


Or do they have the support of Bavaria?

Even so, maybe it's time for Eurasia to do some meddling.

New Demorvian wrote:

Northern Poland wrote:So if Bavaria is an independent country, and the Germans are sending troops...illegal intervention?


Or do they have the support of Bavaria?

Even so, maybe it's time for Eurasia to do some meddling.

It's technically illegal, but they don't want to annex them.

American Pere Housh wrote:NS Name:American Pere Housh
Formal Nation Name:Federal Republic of Brazil
Informal Nation Name:Brazil
Description or Map of Territory:all 2040 territory
Capital City:Brasilia
Link To National Anthem:https://youtu.be/7lc9bcN7ecQ%20klkhv
Flag:(Image)
Current Ruling Political Party:Social Conservative Party
Current Head of State:Emilio Vazquez
Ideology:Conservative
History Since 2019:Same above history
Overview of Nation's Economy:Since the end of WW3, Brazil went the way of the United States by declaring isolation in order to rebuild the Brazilian economy and infrastructure. In 2038, Brazil open its border to foreign investors which allowed its economy to to take off.
Overview of Nation's Political Structure:Federal Presidential Democracy ruled by the President, a Bicameral Federal Congress consisting of the Senate and the House of Deputies. The Judiciary system consists of a Supreme Court, several courts of appeals and federal district courts. The 2 main political parties in Brazil is the Social Conservative Party and the Social Democratic Party.
Overview of Foreign Relations:Has close relations with nations of the Entente especially the U.S., the Eurasian Federation, Japan, North and South Korea, Australia, Taiwan, and Mexico. Relations with other nations are neutral.
Name of Armed Forces:Brazilian Armed Forces
Land Army Name and Size:Brazilian Army, 750,000
Navy Name and Size:Federal Brazilian Navy, 150,000
Air Force Name and Size:Brazilian Air Force, 200,000
Other Military Branches:Brazilian Marine Corps, 150,000
GDP in $US:$6.37 trillion
Estimated Population:229,058,886
Other Information:no
08092020 TRACKING PURPOSES

Bentus wrote:

Albennia wrote:US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.