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Parcia wrote:I'd imagine the first few levels would be rather weak, more so stabilizing some one until they can get actual medical attention.

As the user would grow in power, they should be able to heal more critical wounds over a shorter period of time.


Personally I might stick to Niman.


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I going with a personalised Vapaad, rooted mostly with technicality of Makashi as a build up form. Since Khaza's disposition is pretty intent on not getting hostile or heavy in duels unless the other individual insists.

The parrying style of makashi and its Grace makes a cool intro aesthetic to me only to end something with some nasty 180° aggressive form. Since Vaapad relies alot on reversing force back onto an opponent it seems fitting to open with a high defensive/parry cut and thrust to dissuade a foe. Assuming the heat of the moment gets the best of em and aggression builds, fire up with low-medium form IV technique to force the opponent on defence as a final warning (channeling force into the attack modestly).

Usually overpowering Makashi is the best route which feeds the heat of a duel and can arguably supplement the compartmentalization of Vaapad... Then just explode on em.

Seeing as duels aren't likely anyhow given the setting, Khaza will be generally at a disadvantage against typical blaster foes. But all a work in progress of course, that's what I'll be training.
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Parcia wrote:I'd imagine the first few levels would be rather weak, more so stabilizing some one until they can get actual medical attention.

As the user would grow in power, they should be able to heal more critical wounds over a shorter period of time.


Personally I might stick to Niman.


Way of the Rancor is kewl.


Seeing as duels aren't likely anyhow given the setting, Khaza will be generally at a disadvantage against typical blaster foes. But all a work in progress of course, that's what I'll be training.


That's what you think. You forget this isn't an Academy genre Thread. They're not going to be on Yavin 4 forever.

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Seeing as duels aren't likely anyhow given the setting, Khaza will be generally at a disadvantage against typical blaster foes. But all a work in progress of course, that's what I'll be training.


That's what you think. You forget this isn't an Academy genre Thread. They're not going to be on Yavin 4 forever.

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Nah that's what I meant though... Her form II is good here around other training apprentices but we're gonna be out and about probably dealing with less force users. So her saber technique would be out in the wind unless some sith come about.. Or heavy CQC oriented folks.

Atleast for the greater portion of the beginning, I don't want Khaza confident in her aggression and reluctant to charge out headfirst (thus putting her Vaapad on a sort of back burner for awhile).

Also mechanically helps me stay grounded to my role of wanting to support the others and working those techniques. Healing and what not, since Makashi itself is a rather useless form outside saber combat.

Or do you know something I don't pertaining to sith... I can only hope! Haha
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:08 am

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Empire of Donner land wrote:
That's what you think. You forget this isn't an Academy genre Thread. They're not going to be on Yavin 4 forever.



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Nah that's what I meant though... Her form II is good here around other training apprentices but we're gonna be out and about probably dealing with less force users. So her saber technique would be out in the wind unless some sith come about.. Or heavy CQC oriented folks.

Atleast for the greater portion of the beginning, I don't want Khaza confident in her aggression and reluctant to charge out headfirst (thus putting her Vaapad on a sort of back burner for awhile).

Also mechanically helps me stay grounded to my role of wanting to support the others and working those techniques. Healing and what not, since Makashi itself is a rather useless form outside saber combat.

Or do you know something I don't pertaining to sith... I can only hope! Haha


I hope personally to bring Juyo back, but we'll see what happens. Juyo > Vapaad boys.

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Postby Empire of Donner land » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:45 pm

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Nah that's what I meant though... Her form II is good here around other training apprentices but we're gonna be out and about probably dealing with less force users. So her saber technique would be out in the wind unless some sith come about.. Or heavy CQC oriented folks.

Atleast for the greater portion of the beginning, I don't want Khaza confident in her aggression and reluctant to charge out headfirst (thus putting her Vaapad on a sort of back burner for awhile).

Also mechanically helps me stay grounded to my role of wanting to support the others and working those techniques. Healing and what not, since Makashi itself is a rather useless form outside saber combat.

Or do you know something I don't pertaining to sith... I can only hope! Haha


I hope personally to bring Juyo back, but we'll see what happens. Juyo > Vapaad boys.


Didnt the only people who knew how to do those forms die in thr clone wars? Seems pretty hard to rediscover, dangerous too given Form 7's connection to the dark side in the lore.
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Empire of Donner land wrote:
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I hope personally to bring Juyo back, but we'll see what happens. Juyo > Vapaad boys.


Didnt the only people who knew how to do those forms die in thr clone wars? Seems pretty hard to rediscover, dangerous too given Form 7's connection to the dark side in the lore.

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Didnt the only people who knew how to do those forms die in thr clone wars? Seems pretty hard to rediscover, dangerous too given Form 7's connection to the dark side in the lore.

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Postby Acerbez » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:15 pm

Empire of Donner land wrote:
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I hope personally to bring Juyo back, but we'll see what happens. Juyo > Vapaad boys.


Didnt the only people who knew how to do those forms die in thr clone wars? Seems pretty hard to rediscover, dangerous too given Form 7's connection to the dark side in the lore.


Jedi were training Juyo even in the time of the old Republic, Windu was just the one who refined it and put his own take to it thus making vaapad. Its not like a "lost art". The latter part you spoke of is why I'm preferable to Vaapad and simply redirecting an opponents dark energy/force back to them, "compartmentalising" the circuit. The whole explanation of my "parry, cut, and thrust defence" until its clear an opponent is just forceful or angry.

Vaapad imo is "lead yourself down to an ass whoopin" rather than juyo's "ill lead you to an ass whoopin".

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You're the OP but continuing what I was saying, lore wise I don't feel it's something that needs to be rediscovered so much as perhaps "allowed"... The jedi at a point however did greatly restrict those who could learn it and didn't allot individuals who showed reckless or dark tendencies.

It builds on form 5 and its drills are harmless unless channelling force. Its said u can literally drill its movements and have no issue but be no master. It requires that u use the force channelling.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:45 pm

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Didnt the only people who knew how to do those forms die in thr clone wars? Seems pretty hard to rediscover, dangerous too given Form 7's connection to the dark side in the lore.


Jedi were training Juyo even in the time of the old Republic, Windu was just the one who refined it and put his own take to it thus making vaapad. Its not like a "lost art". The latter part is why I'm preferable to Vaapad and simply redirecting an opponents dark energy/force back to them, "compartmentalising" the circuit. The whole explanation of my parry cut and thrust defence until its clear an opponent is just forceful or angry.

Vaapad imo is "lead yourself down to an ass whoopin" rather than juyo's "ill lead you to an ass whoopin".

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Perhaps they were rediscovered through the S A C R E D T E X T S


You're the OP, but as I said lore wise I don't feel it's something that needs to be rediscovered so much as perhaps "allowed"... The jedi at a point however did greatly restrict those who could learn it and didn't allot individuals who showed reckless or dark tendencies.

It builds on form 5 and its drills are harmless unless channelling force. Its said u can literally drill its movements and have no issue but be no master. It requires that u use the force channelling.


Basically this ^. And it's not really lost. Vader used it as his main style after Mustafar as well as parts of original EU Luke's Order. Yoda was even the occaisonal practicioner. Vaapad was known by a lot fewer people but I imagine it wouldn't be too hard for luke to find record of it.

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Yeah. Thats all fair.
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I'm actually quite curious what everyone else's plans are for their personal style mixes. My thoughts for Khaza was that since she has an eye for the force (literally) she'd be ideal to attempt mastering "mirroring" or jiu jitsu'ing people's energy back toward them.

I saw Ulsa was privy to form IV, which is always an awesome choice. Given that basic training covers the first few forms, I just assumed we're allowed to claim mixes.

Can totally imagine fun little spars with others to get good grasp on other techniques in between missions.
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Postby Empire of Donner land » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:09 pm

Acerbez wrote:I'm actually quite curious what everyone else's plans are for their personal style mixes. My thoughts for Khaza was that since she has an eye for the force (literally) she'd be ideal to attempt mastering "mirroring" or jiu jitsu'ing people's energy back toward them.

I saw Ulsa was privy to form IV, which is always an awesome choice. Given that basic training covers the first few forms, I just assumed we're allowed to claim mixes.

Can totally imagine fun little spars with others to get good grasp on other techniques in between missions.

I can't imagine why people can't claim mixes, and in the event that they get sent on a mission, it's probably better that people have a good mix of offensive and defensive lightsabre/force skills. This isn't the first Anowa rodeo I've been on.
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Empire of Donner land wrote:I can't imagine why people can't claim mixes, and in the event that they get sent on a mission, it's probably better that people have a good mix of offensive and defensive lightsabre/force skills. This isn't the first Anowa rodeo I've been on.


Yea nah, the hype is real.. I'm genuinely excited now.

Cool thing is there's a colorful cast, those who disdain the dark and also those who walk near it. Gonna be fun "side eyeing" when those colors start to show, haha.
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Acerbez wrote:I'm actually quite curious what everyone else's plans are for their personal style mixes. My thoughts for Khaza was that since she has an eye for the force (literally) she'd be ideal to attempt mastering "mirroring" or jiu jitsu'ing people's energy back toward them.

I saw Ulsa was privy to form IV, which is always an awesome choice. Given that basic training covers the first few forms, I just assumed we're allowed to claim mixes.

Can totally imagine fun little spars with others to get good grasp on other techniques in between missions.

Yeah I need to do some research into forms to see what truly fits my character best. From what I wrote last time around, this guy has a predisposition towards form II but I don't remember why.
Edit: Looking through, II, IV, and V would probably all fit. Also, yeah, apparently a lot of Jedi would eventually create their own hybrid deal.
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Postby Parcia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:09 pm

I aiming for a combination of some homebrew shit and Niman.


Mixing saber staff strikes and twirls with force attacks seems hella fun.


I might also mix in some Mando shit but I need to find some info on it.
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Acerbez wrote:I'm actually quite curious what everyone else's plans are for their personal style mixes. My thoughts for Khaza was that since she has an eye for the force (literally) she'd be ideal to attempt mastering "mirroring" or jiu jitsu'ing people's energy back toward them.

I saw Ulsa was privy to form IV, which is always an awesome choice. Given that basic training covers the first few forms, I just assumed we're allowed to claim mixes.

Can totally imagine fun little spars with others to get good grasp on other techniques in between missions.

Yeah I need to do some research into forms to see what truly fits my character best. From what I wrote last time around, this guy has a predisposition towards form II but I don't remember why.
Edit: Looking through, II, IV, and V would probably all fit. Also, yeah, apparently a lot of Jedi would eventually create their own hybrid deal.


I imagine both the Echani factor and his inclination towards honor would be it? I think Echani would have a grand grasp on form II impart of their own traditions.

Wed be extremely similar, you and I, as those are the forms I'd be touching on. Form II, V, and IV, in that order to culminate a potent Vaapad.

Personalization is the dopest, and as Dooku said, falling victim to form is the worst. I'm shying away from the flipping and twirling tho and just looking at the force channeling aspects overwatched by technical move sets.

I noticed you had both a saber and vibro sword? Were u planning to duel wield?
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Not sure what style Llewellyn would adopt. Likely something all her own to accommodate her lacking strength and Force capabilities.

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Postby Brusia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:27 pm

Incidentally, for folks looking into saber forms, I've found this video to be a really helpful resource when deciding on forms for my characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzMjFkZVA8

It gives a pretty good brief overview of the forms, along with some of their various strengths and weaknesses ;)

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Postby Acerbez » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:35 pm

Beiarusia wrote:Not sure what style Llewellyn would adopt. Likely something all her own to accommodate her lacking strength and Force capabilities.


I typically read through the overviews and looked at videos similar to brusia's suggestion for maneuver and techniques to compile into an idea.

Each form has alot of methods of reducing those disadvantages for llewellyn, I guess it boils down to how she faces the moment internally- With technical skill or channeled focus.

Tenacity goes a long ways in training and she seems to be among the most tenacious.

Brusia wrote:Incidentally, for folks looking into saber forms, I've found this video to be a really helpful resource when deciding on forms for my characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzMjFkZVA8

It gives a pretty good brief overview of the forms, along with some of their various strengths and weaknesses ;)


Forgot the name of the style that maximizes turning off ur saber to bypass defense and back on before striking but that one is awesome as well. Would love to see someone pick that up in duels and against enemies.

That styles on the wookiepedia tho. Great vid tho!
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:37 pm

Indeed. I plan on a path through II, VI and VII Juyo while picking up Jarkai on the way.

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Postby Empire of Donner land » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:49 pm

The Olog-Hai wrote:
Acerbez wrote:I'm actually quite curious what everyone else's plans are for their personal style mixes. My thoughts for Khaza was that since she has an eye for the force (literally) she'd be ideal to attempt mastering "mirroring" or jiu jitsu'ing people's energy back toward them.

I saw Ulsa was privy to form IV, which is always an awesome choice. Given that basic training covers the first few forms, I just assumed we're allowed to claim mixes.

Can totally imagine fun little spars with others to get good grasp on other techniques in between missions.

Yeah I need to do some research into forms to see what truly fits my character best. From what I wrote last time around, this guy has a predisposition towards form II but I don't remember why.
Edit: Looking through, II, IV, and V would probably all fit. Also, yeah, apparently a lot of Jedi would eventually create their own hybrid deal.

Form II is the form Dooku uses throughout Star Wars, so it's really good for duelists, not so many Form II people go into active warzones I imagine.

Beiarusia wrote:Not sure what style Llewellyn would adopt. Likely something all her own to accommodate her lacking strength and Force capabilities.


Given that, she might just go for Form I really. It's what beginners use and there *are* people who master it though, I have no idea which characters in canon do it. Once she gets more skilled in using the force, she might take up Form IV. Yoda used Form IV due to him being, well, old in combination with his powerful force abilities.
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Postby Brusia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:50 pm

Acerbez wrote:
Forgot the name of the style that maximizes turning off ur saber to bypass defense and back on before striking but that one is awesome as well. Would love to see someone pick that up in duels and against enemies.

That styles on the wookiepedia tho. Great vid tho!

Ah, yes, I believe that's Trakata: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tr%C3%A0kata

I think that's more of a technique that can be utilized with most forms rather than a form in and of itself though (but I could definitely be wrong about that). Either way though, yeah, I could definitely see some folks utilizing that one ;)

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