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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:49 pm

Country Name: Kingdom of Spain
Head of State/Government: Javier I, de Borbón-Parma y de Braganza
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy/Fascism
Capital: Madrid
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here): Spain and its African possessions
Population: 28.4 Million
Faction: NATO
History: The death of General Franco in 1945 was an unexpected, but quietly welcomed, event for many in Spain. The Falaganists, who had been purged directly and indirectly via the Blue Division in Russia, had little love for the General while much the same was the case for the Carlists, who had been kept at arms length by Franco, who felt threatened by a return of the Monarchy. That other elements of the nation, namely those who had fought for or sympathized with the defeated Republicans hated Franco was a given, but that mattered little to those who were apart of the regime, regardless of their stance on "The General". When one of the defeated Communists took it upon himself to assassinate the dictator, it was cause for a round of purges and a lavish state funeral, but not many tears.

The Falangists, moderate Francoists and the Carlists ultimately came together in the aftermath, installing Don Xavier as King Javier I in an effective absolute monarchy, although the Council of Minsters composed of the various rightists elements remained the power behind the throne. The ushering of Carlist rule, allied with the remnants of the Falangists and others, brought a new wave of public support for the regime via its constituent elements. More important, however, was the abandoning of Franco's doctrines of autarky in favor of seeking alignment with the United States in the ongoing Cold War in order to receive investments and loans through the Marshall Program. As Washington gradually warmed to the new Spanish regime, being less tainted than Franco by collaboration with the Axis during World War II, the hoped for funding did come and Spain would also be admitted into NATO in 1949. As Spain enters the 1950s, it now founds itself firmly in the Western Camp, fighting off Communism but remaining a step-child of sort, much like neighboring Portugal, in that it remains an Authoritarian regime. Despite this fact, the populace is content due to a booming economy and the regime's reforms.
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Postby United Elemental Nations » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:21 pm

Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War in 1948 and the Communists fled to Hainan Island which was a Communist Stronghold. A peace treaty was signed by both sides in Paris thus ending the Chinese Civil War.
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Postby Dentali » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:26 pm

United Elemental Nations wrote:
Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War and the Communists fled to Taiwan



please expand on the history since 45
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Postby United Elemental Nations » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:32 pm

Dentali wrote:
United Elemental Nations wrote:
Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War and the Communists fled to Taiwan



please expand on the history since 45

What would I add?

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United Elemental Nations wrote:
Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War in 1948 and the Communists fled to Hainan Island which was a Communist Stronghold. A peace treaty was signed by both sides in Paris thus ending the Chinese Civil War.

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Postby Dentali » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:49 pm

United Elemental Nations wrote:
United Elemental Nations wrote:
Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War in 1948 and the Communists fled to Hainan Island which was a Communist Stronghold. A peace treaty was signed by both sides in Paris thus ending the Chinese Civil War.


literally everything, we are looking for 3 paragraphs of content. You have 5 years of history in a deeply divided nation. Firstly how did you even win the war
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:55 pm

Is mine for Spain sufficient?
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Postby Dentali » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:05 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Country Name: Kingdom of Spain
Head of State/Government: Javier I, de Borbón-Parma y de Braganza
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy/Fascism
Capital: Madrid
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here): Spain and its African possessions
Population: 28.4 Million
Faction: NATO
History: The death of General Franco in 1945 was an unexpected, but quietly welcomed, event for many in Spain. The Falaganists, who had been purged directly and indirectly via the Blue Division in Russia, had little love for the General while much the same was the case for the Carlists, who had been kept at arms length by Franco, who felt threatened by a return of the Monarchy. That other elements of the nation, namely those who had fought for or sympathized with the defeated Republicans hated Franco was a given, but that mattered little to those who were apart of the regime, regardless of their stance on "The General". When one of the defeated Communists took it upon himself to assassinate the dictator, it was cause for a round of purges and a lavish state funeral, but not many tears.

The Falangists, moderate Francoists and the Carlists ultimately came together in the aftermath, installing Don Xavier as King Javier I in an effective absolute monarchy, although the Council of Minsters composed of the various rightists elements remained the power behind the throne. The ushering of Carlist rule, allied with the remnants of the Falangists and others, brought a new wave of public support for the regime via its constituent elements. More important, however, was the abandoning of Franco's doctrines of autarky in favor of seeking alignment with the United States in the ongoing Cold War in order to receive investments and loans through the Marshall Program. As Washington gradually warmed to the new Spanish regime, being less tainted than Franco by collaboration with the Axis during World War II, the hoped for funding did come and Spain would also be admitted into NATO in 1949. As Spain enters the 1950s, it now founds itself firmly in the Western Camp, fighting off Communism but remaining a step-child of sort, much like neighboring Portugal, in that it remains an Authoritarian regime. Despite this fact, the populace is content due to a booming economy and the regime's reforms.



Speaking as the US player no way they would be accepted into NATO, and i dont know why they got Marshall Plan aid considering they didn't fight in WW2. You'd need some democratic reforms to be accepted.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:08 pm

Dentali wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Country Name: Kingdom of Spain
Head of State/Government: Javier I, de Borbón-Parma y de Braganza
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy/Fascism
Capital: Madrid
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here): Spain and its African possessions
Population: 28.4 Million
Faction: NATO
History: The death of General Franco in 1945 was an unexpected, but quietly welcomed, event for many in Spain. The Falaganists, who had been purged directly and indirectly via the Blue Division in Russia, had little love for the General while much the same was the case for the Carlists, who had been kept at arms length by Franco, who felt threatened by a return of the Monarchy. That other elements of the nation, namely those who had fought for or sympathized with the defeated Republicans hated Franco was a given, but that mattered little to those who were apart of the regime, regardless of their stance on "The General". When one of the defeated Communists took it upon himself to assassinate the dictator, it was cause for a round of purges and a lavish state funeral, but not many tears.

The Falangists, moderate Francoists and the Carlists ultimately came together in the aftermath, installing Don Xavier as King Javier I in an effective absolute monarchy, although the Council of Minsters composed of the various rightists elements remained the power behind the throne. The ushering of Carlist rule, allied with the remnants of the Falangists and others, brought a new wave of public support for the regime via its constituent elements. More important, however, was the abandoning of Franco's doctrines of autarky in favor of seeking alignment with the United States in the ongoing Cold War in order to receive investments and loans through the Marshall Program. As Washington gradually warmed to the new Spanish regime, being less tainted than Franco by collaboration with the Axis during World War II, the hoped for funding did come and Spain would also be admitted into NATO in 1949. As Spain enters the 1950s, it now founds itself firmly in the Western Camp, fighting off Communism but remaining a step-child of sort, much like neighboring Portugal, in that it remains an Authoritarian regime. Despite this fact, the populace is content due to a booming economy and the regime's reforms.



Speaking as the US player no way they would be accepted into NATO, and i dont know why they got Marshall Plan aid considering they didn't fight in WW2. You'd need some democratic reforms to be accepted.


Portugal was under the Estado Novo and was neutral during the war; it got Marshall Plan aid as well as admitted into NATO. By the 1950s the U.S. also had established the Cadiz Naval Base and was regularly doing joint military exercises with the Spanish.
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Postby Nebelhalbinsel » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:11 pm

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Country Name : People's Federation of Indochina (South Vietnam).
Head of State/Government : Ngô Đình Diệm.

Type of Government : Federal Presidential Republic.
Capital : Sài Gòn.

Population : 12,000,000 citizens.
Faction : None
History : After the Second World War, a pro-socialist sentiment began to arise among French peoples, eventually led to France decolonized all its oversea possessions. From Algeria to New Caledonia, millions upon millions cheering after as the good news struck their ears, their desire for independence has been finally answered. However, not all places going to be full of sunshine and rainbow, Indochina was once a French colony, now is divided into many smaller nations with deep grudges against one another and across the region, the increasing numbers of Communist insurgents are beginning to take a toll in the land.

Nations Created Following the Decolonization of French Indochina : People's Federation of Indochina (South Vietnam), Democratic Republic of Indochina (North Vietnam), Kingdom of Laos, Kingdom of Kampuchea (Cambodia).
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Postby Dentali » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:19 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Speaking as the US player no way they would be accepted into NATO, and i dont know why they got Marshall Plan aid considering they didn't fight in WW2. You'd need some democratic reforms to be accepted.


Portugal was under the Estado Novo and was neutral during the war; it got Marshall Plan aid as well as admitted into NATO. By the 1950s the U.S. also had established the Cadiz Naval Base and was regularly doing joint military exercises with the Spanish.



That is a good point and I forgot about Portugal.... though they weren't quite fascist and didnt receive much aid. Have them disavow the Nazis maybe overthrow a few leaders that sided with them in the purge and take some democratic steps, and they can join. They can also receive Marshall Plan aid but only around $100 million, so more than Portugal but not a ton. You also need to swear not to make any claim to Gibraltar unless it is affirmed by a referendum of Gibraltarians.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:23 pm

Dentali wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Portugal was under the Estado Novo and was neutral during the war; it got Marshall Plan aid as well as admitted into NATO. By the 1950s the U.S. also had established the Cadiz Naval Base and was regularly doing joint military exercises with the Spanish.



That is a good point and I forgot about Portugal.... though they weren't quite fascist and didnt receive much aid. Have them disavow the Nazis maybe overthrow a few leaders that sided with them in the purge and take some democratic steps, and they can join. They can also receive Marshall Plan aid but only around $100 million, so more than Portugal but not a ton. You also need to swear not to make any claim to Gibraltar unless it is affirmed by a referendum of Gibraltarians.


I literally had Franco die in 1945 and then the Carlists use their influence to get Don Xavier placed on the throne. It's still an authoritarian regime like Portugal, however.

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The Fascist Reign in Spain
Franco’s Spain was in an awkward position in the postwar world, but the Generalissimo navigated the difficulties successfully. Spanish neutrality meant that the Allies did not overthrow the dictatorship, but the San Francisco conference of 1945 explicitly excluded Spain from the United Nations. By 1950, however, Franco’s anti-communism seemed more important to some westerners than his close ties to Fascism. The United States decided to extend Marshall Plan economic assistance to Spain as a step in normalizing relations and in embracing Spain in Cold War anti-communism. In 1953 Spain and the United States signed a 10-year military accord. By the 1960s, Franco had increased his popularity as Spain underwent an economic boom. Monarchism eclipsed fascism in Franco’s thought, and in 1969 he announced that upon his death, the grandson of Spain’s last king would succeed him. The United States made large investments in (still dictatorial) Spain and obtained four naval and air bases on Spanish territory in return. By the end of that decade, President Nixon celebrated close American-Spanish relations with a state visit to Spain.
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Postby New Finnish Republic » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:26 pm

I plan on adding the Monarchist movement application on a later date, but wanted to at least get the country application in.

Country Name: The Federal Republic of Germany
Head of State/Government: Chancellor Konrad Adenauer
Type of Government: Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Republic
Capital: Bonn
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Historical West German territories prior to the Paris Agreement of 1954
Population: 51 Million, mostly consisting of German nationals as well as ethnic Germans from neighboring territories
Faction: Unaffiliated, however under NATO control
History: Western Germany was the result of the Potsdam Agreement of 1945, in which territories West of the rivers Oder and Neisse were placed under the control of the Allied Powers consisting of France, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America. For several years the territories were placed under strict control of the occupying forces which placed down heavy economic and militaristic restrictions which completely staunched any chance of a return of a powerful German state. For those living within the territories, hunger and homelessness became a common part of life as food rations were reduced even further due to the loss of many of the arable lands to the East as well as an effective stoppage of aid from international organizations due to the actions of the governing Allied Powers.

However such a life was seen as many as a better alternative than what occurred to the remaining Germans living in the Soviet-occupied regions of Eastern Germany. A human tidal wave swarm over the borders as Germans fled into Allied territory, either by their own choice or by force from many of the nations Germany had formerly occupied during the last decade. Terrible accounts of massive crimes against the civilian populations of Germany via the hands of Soviet troops began to spread amongst the Western German populace, resulting in a further growth of hatred towards their former enemies to the East.

Up until 1949, things remained more or less stagnant in Western Germany as its industries were crippled by the Allied occupiers, their intentions both on keeping the German nation from rising again as well as a means of vengeance against their wrongdoings in the previous war. The German people could do little to stop this from happening, as they had no means of governing themselves and thus stopping these events. However thanks to the Petersberg Agreement, a step in the direction of changing this was made. Under specific lists of conditions that were to be followed, Western Germany was allowed to have some semblance of self governance. The Bundestag was formed, its first leader being Konrad Adenauer of the Christian Democratic Union.

Under Adenauer's leadership, immediate steps were made to revitalize the German industry and its people. Due to their agreements with the Americans, a small yet quickly growing industry began to reemerge in Western Germany. Such growth did not come without its drawbacks, however, as said agreements led to further American influence in Western Germany. In addition to this, the state of war was still placed into effect, angering many Germans as they sought to rid themselves of the occupation they were set under.

Currently, Western Germany still remains on a knife's edge of public opinion. While much of the population does not seek to reignite the flames of war as their predecessors had done, many see the current terms imposed on them by the Western Powers as unjust. In addition to these sentiments, many Germans seek to reunite their country and return it back to its former glory as a world power. While the Western nations may hold the ire of many, the true perceived enemy lies towards the East, and many are willing to do whatever they can to get back at the Communists who stand waiting on the other side of the divided nation.
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Postby Dentali » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:05 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Dentali wrote:

That is a good point and I forgot about Portugal.... though they weren't quite fascist and didnt receive much aid. Have them disavow the Nazis maybe overthrow a few leaders that sided with them in the purge and take some democratic steps, and they can join. They can also receive Marshall Plan aid but only around $100 million, so more than Portugal but not a ton. You also need to swear not to make any claim to Gibraltar unless it is affirmed by a referendum of Gibraltarians.


I literally had Franco die in 1945 and then the Carlists use their influence to get Don Xavier placed on the throne. It's still an authoritarian regime like Portugal, however.

Edit:

The Fascist Reign in Spain
Franco’s Spain was in an awkward position in the postwar world, but the Generalissimo navigated the difficulties successfully. Spanish neutrality meant that the Allies did not overthrow the dictatorship, but the San Francisco conference of 1945 explicitly excluded Spain from the United Nations. By 1950, however, Franco’s anti-communism seemed more important to some westerners than his close ties to Fascism. The United States decided to extend Marshall Plan economic assistance to Spain as a step in normalizing relations and in embracing Spain in Cold War anti-communism. In 1953 Spain and the United States signed a 10-year military accord. By the 1960s, Franco had increased his popularity as Spain underwent an economic boom. Monarchism eclipsed fascism in Franco’s thought, and in 1969 he announced that upon his death, the grandson of Spain’s last king would succeed him. The United States made large investments in (still dictatorial) Spain and obtained four naval and air bases on Spanish territory in return. By the end of that decade, President Nixon celebrated close American-Spanish relations with a state visit to Spain.


Fine youre in, but again aid would be on the lower end of the spectrum
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:18 pm

Dentali wrote:Fine youre in, but again aid would be on the lower end of the spectrum


Completely fine and mirrors what happened historically anyway. It also gives me plenty of room to maneuver:

This article uses historical fact as a natural experiment to measure a country’s welfare loss from shifting from an allowed to a restricted trade situation, based on international trade theory. A welfare loss of 8 per cent of GDP is found. The evolution ofdomestic import and export prices in Spain in 1940–58 fits international trade theory assumptions. The main years of autarky are not those commonly considered, but 1947–55, marked by the exclusion of Spain from the Marshall Plan and the Madrid Treaty between Franco’s regime and the US. The upper-bound welfare loss for 1947–55 is 26 per cent of GDP.


Earlier Marshall Plan aid and trade liberalization allows Spain to avoid that, experiencing it's OTL 1960s economic boom a decade early.
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Postby Dentali » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Dentali wrote:Fine youre in, but again aid would be on the lower end of the spectrum


Completely fine and mirrors what happened historically anyway. It also gives me plenty of room to maneuver:

This article uses historical fact as a natural experiment to measure a country’s welfare loss from shifting from an allowed to a restricted trade situation, based on international trade theory. A welfare loss of 8 per cent of GDP is found. The evolution ofdomestic import and export prices in Spain in 1940–58 fits international trade theory assumptions. The main years of autarky are not those commonly considered, but 1947–55, marked by the exclusion of Spain from the Marshall Plan and the Madrid Treaty between Franco’s regime and the US. The upper-bound welfare loss for 1947–55 is 26 per cent of GDP.


Earlier Marshall Plan aid and trade liberalization allows Spain to avoid that, experiencing it's OTL 1960s economic boom a decade early.



I am standing by the Gibraltar thing, no causing trouble in NATO
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:38 pm

Dentali wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Completely fine and mirrors what happened historically anyway. It also gives me plenty of room to maneuver:



Earlier Marshall Plan aid and trade liberalization allows Spain to avoid that, experiencing it's OTL 1960s economic boom a decade early.



I am standing by the Gibraltar thing, no causing trouble in NATO


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Postby Kamchakta » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:33 am

Nebelhalbinsel wrote:


Country Name : People's Federation of Indochina (South Vietnam).
Head of State/Government : Ngô Đình Diệm.

Type of Government : Federal Presidential Republic.
Capital : Sài Gòn.

Population : 12,000,000 citizens.
Faction : None
History : After the Second World War, a pro-socialist sentiment began to arise among French peoples, eventually led to France decolonized all its oversea possessions. From Algeria to New Caledonia, millions upon millions cheering after as the good news struck their ears, their desire for independence has been finally answered. However, not all places going to be full of sunshine and rainbow, Indochina was once a French colony, now is divided into many smaller nations with deep grudges against one another and across the region, the increasing numbers of Communist insurgents are beginning to take a toll in the land.

Nations Created Following the Decolonization of French Indochina : People's Federation of Vietnam (South Vietnam), Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam), Kingdom of Laos, Kingdom of Kampuchea (Cambodia).


I like this but please don't assume I released all my colonies. I talked about decolonisation and Indochina is one of the areas but I never mentioned (as the IC has not started) that I released New Caledonia/Algeria and others. I intend to keep a few more defensible and important colonies.

Also, decolonisation is a long process. I grant Indochina freedom but Algeria, West Africa and other possessions will be different and elaborated in my IC posts.
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Postby Asardia » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:09 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Country Name: Kingdom of Spain
Head of State/Government: Javier I, de Borbón-Parma y de Braganza
Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy/Fascism
Capital: Madrid
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here): Spain and its African possessions
Population: 28.4 Million
Faction: NATO
History: The death of General Franco in 1945 was an unexpected, but quietly welcomed, event for many in Spain. The Falaganists, who had been purged directly and indirectly via the Blue Division in Russia, had little love for the General while much the same was the case for the Carlists, who had been kept at arms length by Franco, who felt threatened by a return of the Monarchy. That other elements of the nation, namely those who had fought for or sympathized with the defeated Republicans hated Franco was a given, but that mattered little to those who were apart of the regime, regardless of their stance on "The General". When one of the defeated Communists took it upon himself to assassinate the dictator, it was cause for a round of purges and a lavish state funeral, but not many tears.

The Falangists, moderate Francoists and the Carlists ultimately came together in the aftermath, installing Don Xavier as King Javier I in an effective absolute monarchy, although the Council of Minsters composed of the various rightists elements remained the power behind the throne. The ushering of Carlist rule, allied with the remnants of the Falangists and others, brought a new wave of public support for the regime via its constituent elements. More important, however, was the abandoning of Franco's doctrines of autarky in favor of seeking alignment with the United States in the ongoing Cold War in order to receive investments and loans through the Marshall Program. As Washington gradually warmed to the new Spanish regime, being less tainted than Franco by collaboration with the Axis during World War II, the hoped for funding did come and Spain would also be admitted into NATO in 1949. As Spain enters the 1950s, it now founds itself firmly in the Western Camp, fighting off Communism but remaining a step-child of sort, much like neighboring Portugal, in that it remains an Authoritarian regime. Despite this fact, the populace is content due to a booming economy and the regime's reforms.


I read your post about the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, and I must admit that you're right. My apologies. Anyway this app is accepted

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Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War in 1948 and the Communists fled to Hainan Island which was a Communist Stronghold. A peace treaty was signed by both sides in Paris thus ending the Chinese Civil War.


I agree with Dentali. There's a reason the communists won, and with the timeline changes being only after WW2, the main thing I see happening is the Liaoshen Campaign somehow fails. And Manchuria would be occupied by the Soviets if they believe the communists don't have a good chance at winning.

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Country Name : People's Federation of Indochina (South Vietnam).
Head of State/Government : Ngô Đình Diệm.

Type of Government : Federal Presidential Republic.
Capital : Sài Gòn.

Population : 12,000,000 citizens.
Faction : None
History : After the Second World War, a pro-socialist sentiment began to arise among French peoples, eventually led to France decolonized all its oversea possessions. From Algeria to New Caledonia, millions upon millions cheering after as the good news struck their ears, their desire for independence has been finally answered. However, not all places going to be full of sunshine and rainbow, Indochina was once a French colony, now is divided into many smaller nations with deep grudges against one another and across the region, the increasing numbers of Communist insurgents are beginning to take a toll in the land.

Nations Created Following the Decolonization of French Indochina : People's Federation of Vietnam (South Vietnam), Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam), Kingdom of Laos, Kingdom of Kampuchea (Cambodia).


France wouldn't just decolonize everything. I mean, they literally fought an 8 year war in Indochina to keep the colonies. I think I'm willing to just accept the French withdrawing from Indochina though

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Country Name: The Federal Republic of Germany
Head of State/Government: Chancellor Konrad Adenauer
Type of Government: Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Republic
Capital: Bonn
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Historical West German territories prior to the Paris Agreement of 1954
Population: 51 Million, mostly consisting of German nationals as well as ethnic Germans from neighboring territories
Faction: Unaffiliated, however under NATO control
History: Western Germany was the result of the Potsdam Agreement of 1945, in which territories West of the rivers Oder and Neisse were placed under the control of the Allied Powers consisting of France, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America. For several years the territories were placed under strict control of the occupying forces which placed down heavy economic and militaristic restrictions which completely staunched any chance of a return of a powerful German state. For those living within the territories, hunger and homelessness became a common part of life as food rations were reduced even further due to the loss of many of the arable lands to the East as well as an effective stoppage of aid from international organizations due to the actions of the governing Allied Powers.

However such a life was seen as many as a better alternative than what occurred to the remaining Germans living in the Soviet-occupied regions of Eastern Germany. A human tidal wave swarm over the borders as Germans fled into Allied territory, either by their own choice or by force from many of the nations Germany had formerly occupied during the last decade. Terrible accounts of massive crimes against the civilian populations of Germany via the hands of Soviet troops began to spread amongst the Western German populace, resulting in a further growth of hatred towards their former enemies to the East.

Up until 1949, things remained more or less stagnant in Western Germany as its industries were crippled by the Allied occupiers, their intentions both on keeping the German nation from rising again as well as a means of vengeance against their wrongdoings in the previous war. The German people could do little to stop this from happening, as they had no means of governing themselves and thus stopping these events. However thanks to the Petersberg Agreement, a step in the direction of changing this was made. Under specific lists of conditions that were to be followed, Western Germany was allowed to have some semblance of self governance. The Bundestag was formed, its first leader being Konrad Adenauer of the Christian Democratic Union.

Under Adenauer's leadership, immediate steps were made to revitalize the German industry and its people. Due to their agreements with the Americans, a small yet quickly growing industry began to reemerge in Western Germany. Such growth did not come without its drawbacks, however, as said agreements led to further American influence in Western Germany. In addition to this, the state of war was still placed into effect, angering many Germans as they sought to rid themselves of the occupation they were set under.

Currently, Western Germany still remains on a knife's edge of public opinion. While much of the population does not seek to reignite the flames of war as their predecessors had done, many see the current terms imposed on them by the Western Powers as unjust. In addition to these sentiments, many Germans seek to reunite their country and return it back to its former glory as a world power. While the Western nations may hold the ire of many, the true perceived enemy lies towards the East, and many are willing to do whatever they can to get back at the Communists who stand waiting on the other side of the divided nation.


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Country Name:Republic of China
Head of State/Government:Chiang Kai-shek
Type of Government:Presidential Dictatorship
Capital: Nanjing
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)current Chinese border
Population:551,960,000
Faction:non aligned but leans toward NATO
History:Same as IRL except the Nationalists won the Civil War in 1948 and the Communists fled to Hainan Island which was a Communist Stronghold. A peace treaty was signed by both sides in Paris thus ending the Chinese Civil War.


If I may suggest so, The Generalissimo: Chiang Kai-shek and the Struggle for Modern China by Jay Taylor, Harvard UP 2009 (pg 315-317)

"Bai Chongxi urged Chiang to accept [General Yasuji] Okamura's official surrender of Japanese troops in China only after Chinese government troops had taken over each garrison. That would have freed Japanese troops to fight aggressively, not just defensively, against Communist forces trying to take over territory the Japanese controlled.

Instead, Chiang arranged a formal surrender date with Okamura, who agreed that the various Japanese garrisons in Japan, until relieved of their duty by government units, would resist if troops other than those of the central government demanded their surrender. In practice, what this meant was that, with few exceptions, the cities remained in Japanese hands until government troops arrived, but the Japanese garrisons did not carry out extensive patrols, and the Communists were able to move into the surrounding countryside. Within one year after Japan's surrender, the CCP had expanded its area of control from 57 to 310 counties. In North China and the northern part of Jiangsu, stiff battles resulted as Communist units attacked Japanese garrisons and forts in some smaller cities and along rail lines. Some 7,000 Japanese were killed or wounded in these engagements, but while the Communists overran a number of Imperial garrisons, none surrendered.

In the Nationalist part of Shanxi, the warlord Wan Xishan began to recruit Japanese officers and soldiers to help fight the Communists, but when Chiang heard of this practice, he told Wan that it would provide the CCP propaganda opportunities. Also the Americans 'would not appreciate it.' All Japanese prisoners, Chiang decreed, would be sent back to Japan as soon as possible after the government units had taken over their positions. If Chiang had followed Bai's suggestion and ordered the Japanese to carry out aggressive patrolling of the rural areas, Okamura, who was strongly anti-Communist, would have doubtless agreed."
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Postby Union Princes » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:42 am

Aw, China is taken. Gosh darn it
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Union Princes wrote:Aw, China is taken. Gosh darn it


Portugal, Thailand, Japan and Australia are interesting options still open.
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Eh, but I want China. I know more PoDs for China than I do for Japan
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Postby Dentali » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:48 am

Totally Not OEP wrote:
United Elemental Nations wrote:


If I may suggest so, The Generalissimo: Chiang Kai-shek and the Struggle for Modern China by Jay Taylor, Harvard UP 2009 (pg 315-317)

"Bai Chongxi urged Chiang to accept [General Yasuji] Okamura's official surrender of Japanese troops in China only after Chinese government troops had taken over each garrison. That would have freed Japanese troops to fight aggressively, not just defensively, against Communist forces trying to take over territory the Japanese controlled.

Instead, Chiang arranged a formal surrender date with Okamura, who agreed that the various Japanese garrisons in Japan, until relieved of their duty by government units, would resist if troops other than those of the central government demanded their surrender. In practice, what this meant was that, with few exceptions, the cities remained in Japanese hands until government troops arrived, but the Japanese garrisons did not carry out extensive patrols, and the Communists were able to move into the surrounding countryside. Within one year after Japan's surrender, the CCP had expanded its area of control from 57 to 310 counties. In North China and the northern part of Jiangsu, stiff battles resulted as Communist units attacked Japanese garrisons and forts in some smaller cities and along rail lines. Some 7,000 Japanese were killed or wounded in these engagements, but while the Communists overran a number of Imperial garrisons, none surrendered.

In the Nationalist part of Shanxi, the warlord Wan Xishan began to recruit Japanese officers and soldiers to help fight the Communists, but when Chiang heard of this practice, he told Wan that it would provide the CCP propaganda opportunities. Also the Americans 'would not appreciate it.' All Japanese prisoners, Chiang decreed, would be sent back to Japan as soon as possible after the government units had taken over their positions. If Chiang had followed Bai's suggestion and ordered the Japanese to carry out aggressive patrolling of the rural areas, Okamura, who was strongly anti-Communist, would have doubtless agreed."



Honestly I cant see the war being flat out lost by the Communists, I think a division like the Koreas is more likely.
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On China


I suggest splitting China in half like Korea, the Northern half being Communist and the Southern half being Nationalist
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