The Iron Curtain: A Cold War RP (OOC, Reboot, Open)

[Dentali]

Hmmm so the Russians are claiming what isn't theirs. The Turks will do the same the the Finns did to the Russians in the Winter War by inflicting heavy casualties on them. The Turks might lose some territory but they will fight for every inch of it plus the US might say something if you try to assert your claim.

The US probably would step in as it looks like everyone is trying to carve up Turkey lol. However it does look like those lands were actually controlled by the Russian Empire before they were ceded to the Turks during the Russian Civil War. BTW, speaking purely in an OOC context, would you like me to just ignore those claims? Rule 4 applies here, so I won't take any military action unless you say yes here

Yea the USA is about to drop the ban hammer

[Asardia]

Country Name: Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia
Head of State/Government: Josip Broz Tito
Type of Government: Federal Titoist one-party socialist republic
Capital: Belgrade
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Irl Yugoslavia
Population: 23,229,846
Faction: Non-aligned
History:Same as Irl

Original player disappeared, so this app is accepted. Although my sources say Yugoslsvia had that population around its dissolution

The US probably would step in as it looks like everyone is trying to carve up Turkey lol. However it does look like those lands were actually controlled by the Russian Empire before they were ceded to the Turks during the Russian Civil War. BTW, speaking purely in an OOC context, would you like me to just ignore those claims? Rule 4 applies here, so I won't take any military action unless you say yes here

Yea the USA is about to drop the ban hammer

Awww I can't send some troops to instigate the Turks? Come on Dentali

[American Pere Housh]

Yeah we don't need another world war. We could have border skirmishes like the Russians and Chinese had during the late sixties.

Hmm alright. The US and UK would probably step in before it got that far, but I'll limit it in scope. Are you alright with me sending a few hundred troops to the Georgian and Armenian SSRs to stir conflict then?

Sure then I will send a few hundred troops to our border when you send yours.

[American Pere Housh]

The US probably would step in as it looks like everyone is trying to carve up Turkey lol. However it does look like those lands were actually controlled by the Russian Empire before they were ceded to the Turks during the Russian Civil War. BTW, speaking purely in an OOC context, would you like me to just ignore those claims? Rule 4 applies here, so I won't take any military action unless you say yes here

Yea the USA is about to drop the ban hammer

Yeah Dentali whats wrong with a little border dispute.

[Asardia]

Hmm alright. The US and UK would probably step in before it got that far, but I'll limit it in scope. Are you alright with me sending a few hundred troops to the Georgian and Armenian SSRs to stir conflict then?

Sure then I will send a few hundred troops to our border when you send yours.

Great. Just remember the Red Army is only 5 years removed from clapping the unstoppable German blitzkrieg

[Asardia]

Updates

Roster Changes

Ethiopia dropped out, and I'm assuming the same goes for the Patagonia and original Yugoslavia players.

Republic of Turkey: American Pere Housh
Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia: Xishuangbanna

Map Changes

The Alliance Map only saw a few minor additions. Which are: Turkey being a neutral state (I imagine this will change soon), Cyprus being part of British holdings, Albania being considered an Eastern Bloc nation (I think they remained so until the early 60s), and the Somalia region being considered NATO aligned due to Italian holdings. All in all, nothing significant

Now for the World Map, the major addition is the Indian Civil War. A closer look at the subcontinent and a key for the major factions are listed in the OP where everything else is.

Events

Nothing special here. Events are now only going to be made under specific request from players.

OOC and Discord activity

The OOC has been quiet here for a few weeks since the start of the Discord server. Anyone wanting to join can click this link. However, I would like to say that the Discord will not and cannot replaced the OOC as the official place to be outside the IC. My announcements will still be here, and I encourage everyone to check here for updates (such as this one) or to see newly accepted players.

[American Pere Housh]

Sure then I will send a few hundred troops to our border when you send yours.

Great. Just remember the Red Army is only 5 years removed from clapping the unstoppable German blitzkrieg

True but I have been receiving American aid for the last 2 years and the Red Army isn't as big as it was in 1945 because maintaining an army that size is unsustainable for a long period of time economy wise. That is why the US went to a professional military though smaller can inflict more damage against a larger military. I am thinking of doing the same thing to the Turkish Armed Forces.

[Rhyssua]

Great. Just remember the Red Army is only 5 years removed from clapping the unstoppable German blitzkrieg

True but I have been receiving American aid for the last 2 years and the Red Army isn't as big as it was in 1945 because maintaining an army that size is unsustainable for a long period of time economy wise. That is why the US went to a professional military though smaller can inflict more damage against a larger military. I am thinking of doing the same thing to the Turkish Armed Forces.

->Talks to USSR about having a sustainable military and economy
->USSR is still under Stalin

That just made my day

[Dentali]

Yea the USA is about to drop the ban hammer

Yeah Dentali whats wrong with a little border dispute.

I want you both in NATO eventually, so it helps if you aren't actively trying to murder one another

[Bruke]

If I reserve Ethiopia, how likely is it to be available in a few weeks?

[Asardia]

If I reserve Ethiopia, how likely is it to be available in a few weeks?

Since it's open now, your reservation means it will be available to you whenever you return. However, I would like to tell you that Ethiopia in this timeline was under British occupation. I think they have plans to leave in 1951 but I'm not sure

Great. Just remember the Red Army is only 5 years removed from clapping the unstoppable German blitzkrieg

True but I have been receiving American aid for the last 2 years and the Red Army isn't as big as it was in 1945 because maintaining an army that size is unsustainable for a long period of time economy wise. That is why the US went to a professional military though smaller can inflict more damage against a larger military. I am thinking of doing the same thing to the Turkish Armed Forces.

Throughout the entire cold war the USSR by themselves had about just the same amount of troops as all of NATO combined. In fact, the CIA reported this about the Red Army:

All in all, the Soviet Armed Forces were estimated to have around 5.5 million men under arms in the mid 1950s, ground forces approximately 2.5 to 2.8 million troops

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/p ... /N2859.pdf

All of NATO has also received American Marshal Plan support. And a war with them would probably see some immediate Soviet victory due to sheer size and experience. Of course, NATO has the US on their side, so that'll go differently. Don't underestimate the military prowess of the USSR!

[American Pere Housh]

I do want to join NATO sooner that the OTL. If the Greeks agree to the meeting then we can focus primarily on India.

[Bruke]

If I reserve Ethiopia, how likely is it to be available in a few weeks?

Since it's open now, your reservation means it will be available to you whenever you return. However, I would like to tell you that Ethiopia in this timeline was under British occupation. I think they have plans to leave in 1951 but I'm not sure

I thought the country would be a blank slate if the player behind it leaves, and reset to IRL historical conditions.....

But.... okay. I can work with that, have a Japan style reconstruction.

[Asardia]

Since it's open now, your reservation means it will be available to you whenever you return. However, I would like to tell you that Ethiopia in this timeline was under British occupation. I think they have plans to leave in 1951 but I'm not sure

I thought the country would be a blank slate if the player behind it leaves, and reset to IRL historical conditions.....

But.... okay. I can work with that, have a Japan style reconstruction.

Hmmm. The reason I say that is because in the last RP, we had a player leave and their history was kept even though they were gone. I went along with it. Do you want to have the blank slate instead? If the UK agrees, then it should be alright

[Kamchakta]

Btw, I am overseas and busy so my post will be less present for a while. Maybe a week or so.

[Dentali]

If I reserve Ethiopia, how likely is it to be available in a few weeks?

Since it's open now, your reservation means it will be available to you whenever you return. However, I would like to tell you that Ethiopia in this timeline was under British occupation. I think they have plans to leave in 1951 but I'm not sure

True but I have been receiving American aid for the last 2 years and the Red Army isn't as big as it was in 1945 because maintaining an army that size is unsustainable for a long period of time economy wise. That is why the US went to a professional military though smaller can inflict more damage against a larger military. I am thinking of doing the same thing to the Turkish Armed Forces.

Throughout the entire cold war the USSR by themselves had about just the same amount of troops as all of NATO combined. In fact, the CIA reported this about the Red Army:

All in all, the Soviet Armed Forces were estimated to have around 5.5 million men under arms in the mid 1950s, ground forces approximately 2.5 to 2.8 million troops

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/p ... /N2859.pdf

All of NATO has also received American Marshal Plan support. And a war with them would probably see some immediate Soviet victory due to sheer size and experience. Of course, NATO has the US on their side, so that'll go differently. Don't underestimate the military prowess of the USSR!

The Soviet economy is fucked, they can't handle a long term war and they don't have the navy or air force to win a short term one. Additionally USA has a nuclear advantage.

[Hypron]

Well then, time to deploy the RN to the Black Sea.

[Asardia]

Since it's open now, your reservation means it will be available to you whenever you return. However, I would like to tell you that Ethiopia in this timeline was under British occupation. I think they have plans to leave in 1951 but I'm not sure



Throughout the entire cold war the USSR by themselves had about just the same amount of troops as all of NATO combined. In fact, the CIA reported this about the Red Army:


https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/p ... /N2859.pdf

All of NATO has also received American Marshal Plan support. And a war with them would probably see some immediate Soviet victory due to sheer size and experience. Of course, NATO has the US on their side, so that'll go differently. Don't underestimate the military prowess of the USSR!

The Soviet economy is fucked, they can't handle a long term war and they don't have the navy or air force to win a short term one. Additionally USA has a nuclear advantage.

Bro pls don't bulli me. Plus, you're saying the USSR wouldn't overrun NATO and then get its gains reversed? Cause that's all I said. Also, saying that the US has NATO on their side automatically addresses all advantages the US brings

And about the economy.....

[Hypron]

The Soviet economy is fucked, they can't handle a long term war and they don't have the navy or air force to win a short term one. Additionally, the USA has a nuclear advantage.

Bro pls don't bulli me. Plus, you're saying the USSR wouldn't overrun NATO and then get its gains reversed? Cause that's all I said. Also, saying that the US has NATO on their side automatically addresses all advantages the US brings

And about the economy.....

Both sides have good points here, which is why it is an even match.

[Asardia]

Bro pls don't bulli me. Plus, you're saying the USSR wouldn't overrun NATO and then get its gains reversed? Cause that's all I said. Also, saying that the US has NATO on their side automatically addresses all advantages the US brings

And about the economy.....

Both sides have good points here, which is why it is an even match.

NATO vs Warsaw Pact would end with no winner. Millions most likely die, nukes get launched, and various countries collapse.

But a border "war" with Turkey on the other hand, idk. I found a PDF talking about Soviet economical recovery around 1950 and onward

[Asardia]

Hi guys. I'm not dropping out, but I will be taking a break for a bit. I'll get a post up when I can, but if I'm really needed ping me on the Discord or have Felan and Dentali take control. They're the Co OPs

[Rhyssua]

Alright, so here's what I'm planning to post about soon:

-Warsaw meeting will be set up
-I'll send a letter to China asking them for an airbase I can use to funnel weapons to the Communists in the Indian Civil War (mostly small arms, with a few propeller-driven fighter planes)
-If Yugoslavia permits it, I'll also send some of my agents from Albania into Yugoslavia, to make contact with Stalinist/mainline communist elements that might overthrow Tito

Also UK, want to do the attempted Albanian coups?

[Arvenia]

I hope the CAS (Coal and Steel) meeting occurs. Tell me when it does and my delegates will be on their way.

[Asardia]

Alright, so here's what I'm planning to post about soon:

-Warsaw meeting will be set up
-I'll send a letter to China asking them for an airbase I can use to funnel weapons to the Communists in the Indian Civil War (mostly small arms, with a few propeller-driven fighter planes)
-If Yugoslavia permits it, I'll also send some of my agents from Albania into Yugoslavia, to make contact with Stalinist/mainline communist elements that might overthrow Tito

Also UK, want to do the attempted Albanian coups?

I don't object to any of the above, so you're free to do those

I hope the CAS (Coal and Steel) meeting occurs. Tell me when it does and my delegates will be on their way.

The IC says it will happen on April 30. Right now, it is April 7 I believe.

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And Hypron....why are you already sending British units to India when no side attacked Pakistan? The US went to the UN to gain support, but your military intervention literally hours after the coup is quite bizarre.

[Hypron]

Alright, so here's what I'm planning to post about soon:

-Warsaw meeting will be set up
-I'll send a letter to China asking them for an airbase I can use to funnel weapons to the Communists in the Indian Civil War (mostly small arms, with a few propeller-driven fighter planes)
-If Yugoslavia permits it, I'll also send some of my agents from Albania into Yugoslavia, to make contact with Stalinist/mainline communist elements that might overthrow Tito

Also UK, want to do the attempted Albanian coups?

I don't object to any of the above, so you're free to do those

I hope the CAS (Coal and Steel) meeting occurs. Tell me when it does and my delegates will be on their way.

The IC says it will happen on April 30. Right now, it is April 7 I believe.

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And Hypron....why are you already sending British units to India when no side attacked Pakistan? The US went to the UN to gain support, but your military intervention literally hours after the coup is quite bizarre.

3 reasons. 1. Test the waters. 2. Evacuate the British Embassy in New Delhi, which will become apparent later on. They won't be able to hold the INC building, so they will be ordered to evacuate the British Embassy and leave the city. 3. The operation actually begins on April 9, at least 1-2 days after the coup.