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1: Yes, reboot
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2: A reboot is ok, but not now
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3: Don't reboot
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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:32 pm

Asardia wrote:
Dentali wrote:If you accept that German app I will quit the rp


lmfaoooo sorry this had me dying not gonna lie.

I don't think anyone seriously wants this app to happen, I mean, there's literally no way the Soviets would let this happen. There's no way Austria could put up a better resistance than the Germans did, and even then, the USSR would keep trying to take it down.

Honestly it's perfectly reasonable not to accept it and I can't say I blame Dentali for his point lmao

Anyways here's an app that should cause less of a heart attack
Name of faction: United National Liberation Front of Vietnam
Leader: A collective executive leadership known as the Grand Council of Vietnam, with major members including but not limited to:
Hồ Chí Minh (leader of the Viet Minh)
Bảo Đại (Emperor of Vietnam, leader of the Imperial Revitalization League)
Ngô Đình Diệm (leader of the Personalist Labor Revolutionary Party)
Nhất Linh (leader of the Viet Quoc)
Influence: Around 600,000 active regular, regional, and irregular fighters.
Between all the different factions of the UNLF, almost every person in Vietnam can find something they support in the movement.
Generally the more radical leftists (primarily the Viet Minh, but not exclusively limited to them) have a stronger power base in the north of Vietnam while more conservative movements have a stronger power base in the south. This is not universal.
Base of operations: Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
Goals: Vietnamese independence from France, establishment of a free Vietnamese state. Everything after that is... fuzzy.
History: The Cold War, if nothing else, makes for odd bedfellows. Although Indochina was liberated from Japanese occupation, the French returned as colonial overlords. Even if they flew red flags and claimed to represent the people, Ho Chi Minh saw straight through their disguises and excuses and recognized them as just a continuation of the colonial overlords. However, the Viet Minh did not stand alone- the “Syndicalist” French, in cladding their imperialist nature in socialism, had alienated anti-communist movements that might have otherwise collaborated. Taking lessons from the Chinese Eight Year War of Resistance against the Japanese, Ho Chi Minh extended an olive branch to other elements to form a united front to defeat the red imperialists. All sorts of people flocked to the cause, from conservative Catholics, to the Emperor of Vietnam, to those who wish to emulate the KMT, to disenfranchised rice farmers, to even Japanese volunteers. They have wildly different political beliefs, religions, and visions about what Vietnam should be, but they have all agreed to put it aside for the struggle for Vietnamese independence. The August Revolution in 1945 sparked the Indochina War, and ever since the Front has been fighting for a free Vietnam.
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Postby The Felan Federation » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:15 pm

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Lol, Japan becoming the unwanted child


I mean, it kind of was. It was called the Japanese Economic Miracle for a reason. Post-war Japan was even more of an apocalyptic hellscape than Europe was. Their entire country was reduced to ash, physically and spiritually. Being the one to fix that mess would be more of a hinderance than a help, it's just that the US saw the potential value in Japan at the end of the war and pushed hard for it.


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Postby World Anarchic Union » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:08 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Is this still open for new nations? And is the nation list in the OP up to date?

Depends, what nation do you want to app as?

Note that any major changes in history cannot come till after ww2

Is there any that’s needed? I was thinking Greece but it’s taken so I was also thinking of a more or less socialist Italy or a volatile India. But if there’s an important vacancy, I could go with that as well.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:25 pm

World Anarchic Union wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Depends, what nation do you want to app as?

Note that any major changes in history cannot come till after ww2

Is there any that’s needed? I was thinking Greece but it’s taken so I was also thinking of a more or less socialist Italy or a volatile India. But if there’s an important vacancy, I could go with that as well.


India could be interesting, as would a Mexico or Canada at this point.

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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:55 pm

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:
Asardia wrote:
lmfaoooo sorry this had me dying not gonna lie.

I don't think anyone seriously wants this app to happen, I mean, there's literally no way the Soviets would let this happen. There's no way Austria could put up a better resistance than the Germans did, and even then, the USSR would keep trying to take it down.

Honestly it's perfectly reasonable not to accept it and I can't say I blame Dentali for his point lmao

Anyways here's an app that should cause less of a heart attack
Name of faction: United National Liberation Front of Vietnam
Leader: A collective executive leadership known as the Grand Council of Vietnam, with major members including but not limited to:
Hồ Chí Minh (leader of the Viet Minh)
Bảo Đại (Emperor of Vietnam, leader of the Imperial Revitalization League)
Ngô Đình Diệm (leader of the Personalist Labor Revolutionary Party)
Nhất Linh (leader of the Viet Quoc)
Influence: Around 600,000 active regular, regional, and irregular fighters.
Between all the different factions of the UNLF, almost every person in Vietnam can find something they support in the movement.
Generally the more radical leftists (primarily the Viet Minh, but not exclusively limited to them) have a stronger power base in the north of Vietnam while more conservative movements have a stronger power base in the south. This is not universal.
Base of operations: Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
Goals: Vietnamese independence from France, establishment of a free Vietnamese state. Everything after that is... fuzzy.
History: The Cold War, if nothing else, makes for odd bedfellows. Although Indochina was liberated from Japanese occupation, the French returned as colonial overlords. Even if they flew red flags and claimed to represent the people, Ho Chi Minh saw straight through their disguises and excuses and recognized them as just a continuation of the colonial overlords. However, the Viet Minh did not stand alone- the “Syndicalist” French, in cladding their imperialist nature in socialism, had alienated anti-communist movements that might have otherwise collaborated. Taking lessons from the Chinese Eight Year War of Resistance against the Japanese, Ho Chi Minh extended an olive branch to other elements to form a united front to defeat the red imperialists. All sorts of people flocked to the cause, from conservative Catholics, to the Emperor of Vietnam, to those who wish to emulate the KMT, to disenfranchised rice farmers, to even Japanese volunteers. They have wildly different political beliefs, religions, and visions about what Vietnam should be, but they have all agreed to put it aside for the struggle for Vietnamese independence. The August Revolution in 1945 sparked the Indochina War, and ever since the Front has been fighting for a free Vietnam.

YES! Destroy the Red French Imperialists!
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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:07 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:-snip-

YES! Destroy the Red French Imperialists!

I wait for the amazing irony of MACV-SOG supporting Viet Cong guerillas
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:09 am

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:YES! Destroy the Red French Imperialists!

I wait for the amazing irony of MACV-SOG supporting Viet Cong guerillas

We can arrange something....
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:11 am

Can’t wait till I get this guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Törni
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:13 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Depends, what nation do you want to app as?

Note that any major changes in history cannot come till after ww2

Is there any that’s needed? I was thinking Greece but it’s taken so I was also thinking of a more or less socialist Italy or a volatile India. But if there’s an important vacancy, I could go with that as well.

An Italy would be nice

Though, less Socialist please, we already lost Spain and France to the red menace
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Postby World Anarchic Union » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:45 am

Idk, I could go as both Italy or India, I have some ideas about both. Italy having a Communist-led government, but there still being political clashes, ala Czechoslovakia pre-1948, and India being in political turmoil between Hindu nationalists, social democrats and communists. So, whatever you and the OP think is best suited for the RP at this point.

Also, has anything happened in the IC yet?
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Postby Greater Redosia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:11 am

World Anarchic Union wrote:Idk, I could go as both Italy or India, I have some ideas about both. Italy having a Communist-led government, but there still being political clashes, ala Czechoslovakia pre-1948, and India being in political turmoil between Hindu nationalists, social democrats and communists. So, whatever you and the OP think is best suited for the RP at this point.

Also, has anything happened in the IC yet?


Spain tried to blockade Gibraltar, Suez Crisis is happening several years early, Sweden just had their entire Government bombed by a bunch of Communists in Stockholm. As far as I know.
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Postby Yaruqo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:24 am

Hey, Saudi, Egypt hasn’t mobilized. Britain is the only one that has mobilized its troops to the Suez.
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Postby Ha Liang » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:34 am

Country Name: Belgian Congo
Head of State/Government: Eugène Jungers
Type of Government: Colony of Belgium
Capital: Leopoldville
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Dr. Congo, and Gabon
Population: 16,610,000
Faction: Currently siding with the west
History: After the belgian goverment took possession of the congo from leopold II rule, they began seeing the congo as a new frontier for the young belgian nation. The belgian goverment began to turn the western part of congo into the centre for economic growth in the young belgian nation, However treatment of the native populace did not change throughout the years. As years went by and more europeans immigrated to the congo, the treatment for the native africans became worse and worse and it didn’t help that during the second world war that thousands of congolese africans were forced into the war against the germans. Now here at the end of the war, The mostly african east demand Liberty, justice, and equality for the africans. The belgian goverment will need to listen to their demands if they don’t want their precious colony gone from it’s grasp
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Postby Hypron » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:48 am

I've already came up with a plan for a defensive war against Egypt. All I need to do is hold the Suez and my military base near Cairo until the main force from Libya arrives.

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Postby Aviz Portugal » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:49 am

Yaruqo wrote:Hey, Saudi, Egypt hasn’t mobilized. Britain is the only one that has mobilized its troops to the Suez.


My mistake, gonna fix that
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:58 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:WIP
Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Constantine XII (ruled: 1940 AD - Present); Chancellor Alexandros Papagos (ruled: 1941 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History: In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders.

The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

The Greco-Turkish War dragged on in a stalemate until the Stock Market Crash of 1929, when both Greece and Turkey being struck by economic difficulties, agreed to a ceasefire. The War had left Greece semi-successful but in a bad economic situation. Eager to take advantage of the chaotic political and economic situation, Venizelos, who had taken asylum in France following his ousting from office by Emperor Alexandros, back in 1923, plotted his return to power. In 1931, he landed on his home island of Crete, where he was much beloved, and missed by the local people, and there, he sought to repeat the formula of his success in 1917; and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in Irakleion. With the help of former Venizelist officers who had gone into exile with him, the local support of the Cretans, and with the tacit blessing of France; Venizelos was able to take over Crete and even win some of the neighbouring islands to him. The "Venizelist Fever" as it was called, also spread to islands under the "protection" of Foreign Powers, such as the Italian controlled Dodecanese, and the British controlled Cyprus. Both of these regions shook off British and Italian occupation, respectively, and joined themselves to Venizelos' "Hellenic Republic".

These developments raised the ire of the Great Powers of Britain and Italy; and this was seized upon by the politically astute Metaxas; who requested British and Italian aid to put down the Venizelist Revolt. In early 1932, the Venizelists attempted to seize the port of Kalamata, on the south of the Pelopponese; but they were repulsed by the battle-hardened military garrison there, and pushed back into the sea. In March, another Venizelist uprising occurred in the major northern Greek port of Thessaloniki. The military garrison there was unable to put down the revolt there, and the city was lost. Metaxas gathered an army and marched to Thessaloniki himself to put down the uprising. Also present to help the Imperial Government were forces sent by King Alexander I (ruled: 1918 - 1934) of Yugoslavia. By August, after a siege lasting several months; Thessaloniki was taken by the Imperialists. This reversal was followed by the arrival of an Italian Expeditionary Force as well as the British Royal Navy in the region. In conjunction with the Imperial Greek Navy and Army, the combined forces landed on Venizelos' stronghold of Crete; and trapped the would-be Prime Minister in his makeshift capital of Irakleion. The city fell to the British, Italian, and Greek Imperial forces in September, but during the chaos, Venizelos managed to escape to Cyprus. Throughout the remainder of 1932, and dragging on into 1933-1934, the coalition forces hopped from island to island, subduing the Venizelist garrisons and restoring Imperial rule over these areas. In 1934, Venizelos fled Cyprus for the safety of the French Mandate of Lebanon. He remained in comfortable exile in Beirut, in a swanky villa provided by the French Government; breathing his threats until his death in 1936.

After the subsiding of the "Venizelist Fever" (1931-1934), things calmed down for a very short time; but this was merely surface-level. Prime Minister Metaxas used the Venizelist uprising to his own advantage, to tighten his hold on the Government; something which the indolent Emperor Alexandros I not only did nothing to hinder, but actually encouraged. Metaxas was granted emergency powers and named as Chancellor of the Hellenic Empire. He created a secret police force known as the Security Battalions; with which he hunted down all Venizelists as well as Communists, Liberals, and anybody remotely Left-wing, labelling them "disturbers of the peace". In 1935, Metaxas signed trade and defence pacts with Benito Mussolini of Italy, and the aforementioned King Alexander I of Yugoslavia. He also maintained balanced and friendly relations with both Britain, and a resurgent German Reich. Using fund obtained from international trade, the Imperial Government rebuilt destroyed sections of Constantinople in a grand, new Hellenic Classical style (including the illustrious Blachernae Palace; built on the ruins of the Ottoman Sultan's Palace); roads and railroads throughout the country, etc. Meanwhile, the harsh persecutions against the "disturbers of the peace" encouraged the formation of underground political and revolutionary societies dedicated to the overthrowing of the Imperial Regime. However, they were forced to remain in hiding; and festered in secret.

In September of 1939, World War II was kicked off when Germany invaded Poland. Metaxas proclaimed neutrality, and maintained trade and diplomatic relations with both Britain and Germany. In February of 1940, Emperor Alexandros I died in a boating accident in the Sea of Marmara. His young, 13 year old son, Constantine became Emperor Constantine XII (Constantine XI was the last Byzantine Emperor, who died in 1453); with his mother, Empress Aspasia, and Chancellor Metaxas, assuming the Regency. In foreign affairs, things took a turn for the worst as well, as Fascist Italy became increasingly assertive and aggressive; and this pushed Metaxas to distance Greece from Italy and rely more on Britain; however, Metaxas also continued keeping good ties with Nazi Germany, hoping that Hitler would back him up against an increasingly belicose Mussolini. On October 28th, 1940, Mussolini issued an ultimatum to the Greek Government in Constantinople. Metaxas uttered his famous "Oxi", and the war began. Italian attempts to invade Greece through Albania were easily thwarted by General Alexandros Papagos; and Mussolini was forced to lick his wounds for the time being. British attempts to sway Metaxas to the Allied cause fell on deaf ears; as Metaxas was still reaching out to Berlin, hoping that Hitler would step in to mediate the situation, and Greece could return to neutrality. Alas, it was not to be, as Metaxas died suddenly in late January of 1941, after reigning 11 years as Prime Minister and 7 as Chancellor. In February, General Papagos marched on Constantinople, with the City garrison joining him on the way. The Blachernae Palace was surrounded, Empress Aspasia was deposed as Regent and exiled to a Monastery; and the Regency was assumed by Papagos himself. Within the month, the new Regent, officially joined the Allies, and a British Expeditionary Force had set itself up in Constantinople.

This coup prompted the Germans to invade Yugoslavia and Greece in April of 1941, so as to secure their southern flank. By the end of May, most of Greece was overrun by the Germans with the exception of East Thrace and Constantinople. Fearing the Fall of the City, Papagos took the young Emperor Constantine and the entire Court to flee into exile on a British battleship; but alas, they were captured at Gallipoli by the German Army. News of the Emperor's capture, caused the GReek defenders of East Thrace and Constantinople to wither; and the British Expeditionary Force packed up and escaped east through neutral Turkey. On June 1st, the Germans entered Constantinople. General Papagos was imprisoned in Germany, and the young Emperor was escorted back to Constantinople by the German Army. Hitler appointed Hermann Neubacher, an Austrian Nazi, as German Plenipotentiary of the Balkans, and also as Regent for the young Emperor Constantine. As such, Neubacher took up residence in the Blachernae Palace, and chose to run all his affairs from there; to this end, he annexed Yugoslavia to the Hellenic Empire (which was at this point a German puppet-state); this allowed the Germans to coordinate their occupation over a larger area, but it also allowed the Communist resistance forces to coordinate with each other much easier as well.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.



Hi all,

Beefed up my history some more; got up to WW2 and the German Occupation a bit more (see last two paragraphs); as this part also concerns Yugoslavia, I'd be happy for their input in this part. In the next paragraph, I will treat of the resistance movement against the German occupation, and the Allied liberation of Greece. But what I'm not sure about is how this whole drama should end. Do I end it with an Imperial victory, or a Communist one? Cause I could just as easily have the Hellenic Socialist Republic, with its capital in Constantinople, as I could have the Empire. The History is still good, either way, I just change the victor of the civil war; or I could always just extend the chaos and civil war into the IC (1949); and that not only makes the most sense, but is also the most interesting.
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Postby Hypron » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:04 am

I just now looked at the map, overall great, but shouldn't I have Canada, Australia and New Zealand? They are both still dominions of my empire, and no one has taken those away from me yet.

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Postby Ha Liang » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:05 am

Am i accepted as congo?

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Postby Dentali » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:10 am

Speaking as OP please hold off on making a comment about SATO in the IC I need a few questions answered about the organization
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Postby The Felan Federation » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:28 am

Ha Liang wrote:Am i accepted as congo?


Ha Liang wrote:
Country Name: Belgian Congo
Head of State/Government: Eugène Jungers
Type of Government: Colony of Belgium
Capital: Leopoldville
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Dr. Congo, and Gabon
Population: 16,610,000
Faction: Currently siding with the west
History:


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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:38 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:WIP
Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Constantine XIII (ruled: 1940 AD - Present); Chancellor Alexandros Papagos (ruled: 1941 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History: In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders.

The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

The Greco-Turkish War dragged on in a stalemate until the Stock Market Crash of 1929, when both Greece and Turkey being struck by economic difficulties, agreed to a ceasefire. The War had left Greece semi-successful but in a bad economic situation. Eager to take advantage of the chaotic political and economic situation, Venizelos, who had taken asylum in France following his ousting from office by Emperor Alexandros, back in 1923, plotted his return to power. In 1931, he landed on his home island of Crete, where he was much beloved, and missed by the local people, and there, he sought to repeat the formula of his success in 1917; and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in Irakleion. With the help of former Venizelist officers who had gone into exile with him, the local support of the Cretans, and with the tacit blessing of France; Venizelos was able to take over Crete and even win some of the neighbouring islands to him. The "Venizelist Fever" as it was called, also spread to islands under the "protection" of Foreign Powers, such as the Italian controlled Dodecanese, and the British controlled Cyprus. Both of these regions shook off British and Italian occupation, respectively, and joined themselves to Venizelos' "Hellenic Republic".

These developments raised the ire of the Great Powers of Britain and Italy; and this was seized upon by the politically astute Metaxas; who requested British and Italian aid to put down the Venizelist Revolt. In early 1932, the Venizelists attempted to seize the port of Kalamata, on the south of the Pelopponese; but they were repulsed by the battle-hardened military garrison there, and pushed back into the sea. In March, another Venizelist uprising occurred in the major northern Greek port of Thessaloniki. The military garrison there was unable to put down the revolt there, and the city was lost. Metaxas gathered an army and marched to Thessaloniki himself to put down the uprising. Also present to help the Imperial Government were forces sent by King Alexander I (ruled: 1918 - 1934) of Yugoslavia. By August, after a siege lasting several months; Thessaloniki was taken by the Imperialists. This reversal was followed by the arrival of an Italian Expeditionary Force as well as the British Royal Navy in the region. In conjunction with the Imperial Greek Navy and Army, the combined forces landed on Venizelos' stronghold of Crete; and trapped the would-be Prime Minister in his makeshift capital of Irakleion. The city fell to the British, Italian, and Greek Imperial forces in September, but during the chaos, Venizelos managed to escape to Cyprus. Throughout the remainder of 1932, and dragging on into 1933-1934, the coalition forces hopped from island to island, subduing the Venizelist garrisons and restoring Imperial rule over these areas. In 1934, Venizelos fled Cyprus for the safety of the French Mandate of Lebanon. He remained in comfortable exile in Beirut, in a swanky villa provided by the French Government; breathing his threats until his death in 1936.

After the subsiding of the "Venizelist Fever" (1931-1934), things calmed down for a very short time; but this was merely surface-level. Prime Minister Metaxas used the Venizelist uprising to his own advantage, to tighten his hold on the Government; something which the indolent Emperor Alexandros I not only did nothing to hinder, but actually encouraged. Metaxas was granted emergency powers and named as Chancellor of the Hellenic Empire. He created a secret police force known as the Security Battalions; with which he hunted down all Venizelists as well as Communists, Liberals, and anybody remotely Left-wing, labelling them "disturbers of the peace". In 1935, Metaxas signed trade and defence pacts with Benito Mussolini of Italy, and the aforementioned King Alexander I of Yugoslavia. He also maintained balanced and friendly relations with both Britain, and a resurgent German Reich. Using fund obtained from international trade, the Imperial Government rebuilt destroyed sections of Constantinople in a grand, new Hellenic Classical style (including the illustrious Blachernae Palace; built on the ruins of the Ottoman Sultan's Palace); roads and railroads throughout the country, etc. Meanwhile, the harsh persecutions against the "disturbers of the peace" encouraged the formation of underground political and revolutionary societies dedicated to the overthrowing of the Imperial Regime. However, they were forced to remain in hiding; and festered in secret.

In September of 1939, World War II was kicked off when Germany invaded Poland. Metaxas proclaimed neutrality, and maintained trade and diplomatic relations with both Britain and Germany. In February of 1940, Emperor Alexandros I died in a boating accident in the Sea of Marmara. His young, 13 year old son, Constantine became Emperor Constantine XII (Constantine XI was the last Byzantine Emperor, who died in 1453); with his mother, Empress Aspasia, and Chancellor Metaxas, assuming the Regency. In foreign affairs, things took a turn for the worst as well, as Fascist Italy became increasingly assertive and aggressive; and this pushed Metaxas to distance Greece from Italy and rely more on Britain; however, Metaxas also continued keeping good ties with Nazi Germany, hoping that Hitler would back him up against an increasingly belicose Mussolini. On October 28th, 1940, Mussolini issued an ultimatum to the Greek Government in Constantinople. Metaxas uttered his famous "Oxi", and the war began. Italian attempts to invade Greece through Albania were easily thwarted by General Alexandros Papagos; and Mussolini was forced to lick his wounds for the time being. British attempts to sway Metaxas to the Allied cause fell on deaf ears; as Metaxas was still reaching out to Berlin, hoping that Hitler would step in to mediate the situation, and Greece could return to neutrality. Alas, it was not to be, as Metaxas died suddenly in late January of 1941, after reigning 11 years as Prime Minister and 7 as Chancellor. In February, General Papagos marched on Constantinople, with the City garrison joining him on the way. The Blachernae Palace was surrounded, Empress Aspasia was deposed as Regent and exiled to a Monastery; and the Regency was assumed by Papagos himself. Within the month, the new Regent, officially joined the Allies, and a British Expeditionary Force had set itself up in Constantinople.

This coup prompted the Germans to invade Yugoslavia and Greece in April of 1941, so as to secure their southern flank. By the end of May, most of Greece was overrun by the Germans with the exception of East Thrace and Constantinople. Fearing the Fall of the City, Papagos took the young Emperor Constantine and the entire Court to flee into exile on a British battleship; but alas, they were captured at Gallipoli by the German Army. News of the Emperor's capture, caused the GReek defenders of East Thrace and Constantinople to wither; and the British Expeditionary Force packed up and escaped east through neutral Turkey. On June 1st, the Germans entered Constantinople. General Papagos was imprisoned in Germany, and the young Emperor was escorted back to Constantinople by the German Army. Hitler appointed Hermann Neubacher, an Austrian Nazi, as German Plenipotentiary of the Balkans, and also as Regent for the young Emperor Constantine. As such, Neubacher took up residence in the Blachernae Palace, and chose to run all his affairs from there; to this end, he annexed Yugoslavia to the Hellenic Empire (which was at this point a German puppet-state); this allowed the Germans to coordinate their occupation over a larger area, but it also allowed the Communist resistance forces to coordinate with each other much easier as well. Terrorist actions against the German occupiers by the Partisan forces became incredibly common; and German reprisals were just as harsh. Due to the brutality of the German occupation; many Greeks were in favour of the Resistance, and as such public opinion began to turn against the Imperial Government in Constantinople, which was understood to be a German puppet-state.

On March 25th 1942, however, events in Constantinople took an interesting turn, when the 15 year old Emperor Constantine XII publicly dismissed Neubacher as Regent, and kindly thanked the Germans for their "protection of his domain, and to kindly leave the country" (this happened as they were leaving the church service at the Cathedral of Aghia Sophia). Neubacher simply had the youth locked up in the Blachernae Palace, and continued to rule. While this act had zero practical difference, it symbolically separated the Emperor from the German occupiers, and a of support for the young monarch spread throughout the more traditionalist sectors of the occupied Greek nation. Right-wing resistance movements who wanted to "liberate the Emperor from his German captors" began to arise; and the Communists lost the monopoly on resisting the Germans. These right-wing, Monarchist partisans were especially supported by Britain and the United States, as an alternative to the pro-Soviet Communist resistance forces. For fear of similar such gaffes, Neubacher confined the Emperor to the Palace and did not allow him to go out in public; as such rumours began to swirl throughout the Capital that Neubacher had killed the Emperor and was simply ruling in his name. After about a year of being grounded in the Palace, the Emperor was allowed to attend church in the Aghia Sophia. As the Emperor walked into the church, for the Christmas Eve Vigil, the people crowded him and cheered, overwhelming his German "bodyguards". The young Emperor was whisked away by the Priest and the Deacons. The right-wing resistance groups successfully smuggled him out of the City via Constantinople's underground passages, and he made his way safely to Cyprus. From Nicosia, Constantine XII proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes'; declared the Regency null and void and the Germans as invaders and usurpers. Upon hearing of this, Neubacher proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes as Emperor Ermanos I, on December 31st, 1943. This cut out whatever cartoonish amount of legitimacy remained in the German occupation of Greece.

The British and Americans funneled in all manner of weapons to the right-wing Greek resistance groups, and the Soviets did the same for the Communist Greeks and Yugoslavs. As of January of 1944, the region exploded with terrorist attacks and uprisings; with the Right and the Left competing to see who could outdo the other in harming the German occupiers. Vast pockets of the country became "ungovernable" to the Germans. By Summer of 1944, most of the Islands had declared for Emperor Constantine XII and were successfully liberated by the British and Americans; and conversely, most of Yugoslavia and Greek Makedonia were in the hands of the Communist rebels. In July of 1944, Thessaloniki was seized by the Communist rebels; with the Germans being driven eastward into Thrace, towards Constantinople. As such, the Germans forces were cut in two. In August, with the Soviets pushing through Eastern Europe towards Berlin, Hitler ordered most of the German troops in the Balkans to pull back North towards Germany proper. He did order the troops in Thrace and Constantinople to keep hold of the Bosporus Straits, and buttress Emperor Ermanos' tottering throne. In October of 1944, Gallipoli was liberated by a massive, combined, Greek, British and American force; and this opened the way to Constantinople. News of this, threw the people of Constantinople into riotous jubilation. Each took paving stones, pitchforks and torches in hand and marched towards the Blachernae Palace. The German troops, exhausted by years of fighting, and resentful themselves of Ermanos' cruelty and pomposity stood down; some even joined the Greeks in dragging Ermanos and his Staff from the Palace, and tearing them apart in the streets. The remaining German forces retreated from Constantinople to Adrianople. Within a day of this, the Allies landed in Constantinople, and secured the City. Emperor Constantine returned to the Capital a week later, and was welcomed by cheering crowds. He was properly coronated as Emperor in November of 1944.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.


I added some more, what do you all think?

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:59 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
World Anarchic Union wrote:Is there any that’s needed? I was thinking Greece but it’s taken so I was also thinking of a more or less socialist Italy or a volatile India. But if there’s an important vacancy, I could go with that as well.

An Italy would be nice

Though, less Socialist please, we already lost Spain and France to the red menace

France actually returned to the American Empire's sphere.
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Postby Derika » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:01 am

oo. An Italy would be cool, considering the proximity to Yugoslavia
my evidence? trust me bro

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Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Constantine XIII (ruled: 1940 AD - Present); Chancellor Alexandros Papagos (ruled: 1941 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History: In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders.

The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

The Greco-Turkish War dragged on in a stalemate until the Stock Market Crash of 1929, when both Greece and Turkey being struck by economic difficulties, agreed to a ceasefire. The War had left Greece semi-successful but in a bad economic situation. Eager to take advantage of the chaotic political and economic situation, Venizelos, who had taken asylum in France following his ousting from office by Emperor Alexandros, back in 1923, plotted his return to power. In 1931, he landed on his home island of Crete, where he was much beloved, and missed by the local people, and there, he sought to repeat the formula of his success in 1917; and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in Irakleion. With the help of former Venizelist officers who had gone into exile with him, the local support of the Cretans, and with the tacit blessing of France; Venizelos was able to take over Crete and even win some of the neighbouring islands to him. The "Venizelist Fever" as it was called, also spread to islands under the "protection" of Foreign Powers, such as the Italian controlled Dodecanese, and the British controlled Cyprus. Both of these regions shook off British and Italian occupation, respectively, and joined themselves to Venizelos' "Hellenic Republic".

These developments raised the ire of the Great Powers of Britain and Italy; and this was seized upon by the politically astute Metaxas; who requested British and Italian aid to put down the Venizelist Revolt. In early 1932, the Venizelists attempted to seize the port of Kalamata, on the south of the Pelopponese; but they were repulsed by the battle-hardened military garrison there, and pushed back into the sea. In March, another Venizelist uprising occurred in the major northern Greek port of Thessaloniki. The military garrison there was unable to put down the revolt there, and the city was lost. Metaxas gathered an army and marched to Thessaloniki himself to put down the uprising. Also present to help the Imperial Government were forces sent by King Alexander I (ruled: 1918 - 1934) of Yugoslavia. By August, after a siege lasting several months; Thessaloniki was taken by the Imperialists. This reversal was followed by the arrival of an Italian Expeditionary Force as well as the British Royal Navy in the region. In conjunction with the Imperial Greek Navy and Army, the combined forces landed on Venizelos' stronghold of Crete; and trapped the would-be Prime Minister in his makeshift capital of Irakleion. The city fell to the British, Italian, and Greek Imperial forces in September, but during the chaos, Venizelos managed to escape to Cyprus. Throughout the remainder of 1932, and dragging on into 1933-1934, the coalition forces hopped from island to island, subduing the Venizelist garrisons and restoring Imperial rule over these areas. In 1934, Venizelos fled Cyprus for the safety of the French Mandate of Lebanon. He remained in comfortable exile in Beirut, in a swanky villa provided by the French Government; breathing his threats until his death in 1936.

After the subsiding of the "Venizelist Fever" (1931-1934), things calmed down for a very short time; but this was merely surface-level. Prime Minister Metaxas used the Venizelist uprising to his own advantage, to tighten his hold on the Government; something which the indolent Emperor Alexandros I not only did nothing to hinder, but actually encouraged. Metaxas was granted emergency powers and named as Chancellor of the Hellenic Empire. He created a secret police force known as the Security Battalions; with which he hunted down all Venizelists as well as Communists, Liberals, and anybody remotely Left-wing, labelling them "disturbers of the peace". In 1935, Metaxas signed trade and defence pacts with Benito Mussolini of Italy, and the aforementioned King Alexander I of Yugoslavia. He also maintained balanced and friendly relations with both Britain, and a resurgent German Reich. Using fund obtained from international trade, the Imperial Government rebuilt destroyed sections of Constantinople in a grand, new Hellenic Classical style (including the illustrious Blachernae Palace; built on the ruins of the Ottoman Sultan's Palace); roads and railroads throughout the country, etc. Meanwhile, the harsh persecutions against the "disturbers of the peace" encouraged the formation of underground political and revolutionary societies dedicated to the overthrowing of the Imperial Regime. However, they were forced to remain in hiding; and festered in secret.

In September of 1939, World War II was kicked off when Germany invaded Poland. Metaxas proclaimed neutrality, and maintained trade and diplomatic relations with both Britain and Germany. In February of 1940, Emperor Alexandros I died in a boating accident in the Sea of Marmara. His young, 13 year old son, Constantine became Emperor Constantine XII (Constantine XI was the last Byzantine Emperor, who died in 1453); with his mother, Empress Aspasia, and Chancellor Metaxas, assuming the Regency. In foreign affairs, things took a turn for the worst as well, as Fascist Italy became increasingly assertive and aggressive; and this pushed Metaxas to distance Greece from Italy and rely more on Britain; however, Metaxas also continued keeping good ties with Nazi Germany, hoping that Hitler would back him up against an increasingly belicose Mussolini. On October 28th, 1940, Mussolini issued an ultimatum to the Greek Government in Constantinople. Metaxas uttered his famous "Oxi", and the war began. Italian attempts to invade Greece through Albania were easily thwarted by General Alexandros Papagos; and Mussolini was forced to lick his wounds for the time being. British attempts to sway Metaxas to the Allied cause fell on deaf ears; as Metaxas was still reaching out to Berlin, hoping that Hitler would step in to mediate the situation, and Greece could return to neutrality. Alas, it was not to be, as Metaxas died suddenly in late January of 1941, after reigning 11 years as Prime Minister and 7 as Chancellor. In February, General Papagos marched on Constantinople, with the City garrison joining him on the way. The Blachernae Palace was surrounded, Empress Aspasia was deposed as Regent and exiled to a Monastery; and the Regency was assumed by Papagos himself. Within the month, the new Regent, officially joined the Allies, and a British Expeditionary Force had set itself up in Constantinople.

This coup prompted the Germans to invade Yugoslavia and Greece in April of 1941, so as to secure their southern flank. By the end of May, most of Greece was overrun by the Germans with the exception of East Thrace and Constantinople. Fearing the Fall of the City, Papagos took the young Emperor Constantine and the entire Court to flee into exile on a British battleship; but alas, they were captured at Gallipoli by the German Army. News of the Emperor's capture, caused the GReek defenders of East Thrace and Constantinople to wither; and the British Expeditionary Force packed up and escaped east through neutral Turkey. On June 1st, the Germans entered Constantinople. General Papagos was imprisoned in Germany, and the young Emperor was escorted back to Constantinople by the German Army. Hitler appointed Hermann Neubacher, an Austrian Nazi, as German Plenipotentiary of the Balkans, and also as Regent for the young Emperor Constantine. As such, Neubacher took up residence in the Blachernae Palace, and chose to run all his affairs from there; to this end, he annexed Yugoslavia to the Hellenic Empire (which was at this point a German puppet-state); this allowed the Germans to coordinate their occupation over a larger area, but it also allowed the Communist resistance forces to coordinate with each other much easier as well. Terrorist actions against the German occupiers by the Partisan forces became incredibly common; and German reprisals were just as harsh. Due to the brutality of the German occupation; many Greeks were in favour of the Resistance, and as such public opinion began to turn against the Imperial Government in Constantinople, which was understood to be a German puppet-state.

On March 25th 1942, however, events in Constantinople took an interesting turn, when the 15 year old Emperor Constantine XII publicly dismissed Neubacher as Regent, and kindly thanked the Germans for their "protection of his domain, and to kindly leave the country" (this happened as they were leaving the church service at the Cathedral of Aghia Sophia). Neubacher simply had the youth locked up in the Blachernae Palace, and continued to rule. While this act had zero practical difference, it symbolically separated the Emperor from the German occupiers, and a of support for the young monarch spread throughout the more traditionalist sectors of the occupied Greek nation. Right-wing resistance movements who wanted to "liberate the Emperor from his German captors" began to arise; and the Communists lost the monopoly on resisting the Germans. These right-wing, Monarchist partisans were especially supported by Britain and the United States, as an alternative to the pro-Soviet Communist resistance forces. For fear of similar such gaffes, Neubacher confined the Emperor to the Palace and did not allow him to go out in public; as such rumours began to swirl throughout the Capital that Neubacher had killed the Emperor and was simply ruling in his name. After about a year of being grounded in the Palace, the Emperor was allowed to attend church in the Aghia Sophia. As the Emperor walked into the church, for the Christmas Eve Vigil, the people crowded him and cheered, overwhelming his German "bodyguards". The young Emperor was whisked away by the Priest and the Deacons. The right-wing resistance groups successfully smuggled him out of the City via Constantinople's underground passages, and he made his way safely to Cyprus. From Nicosia, Constantine XII proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes'; declared the Regency null and void and the Germans as invaders and usurpers. Upon hearing of this, Neubacher proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes as Emperor Ermanos I, on December 31st, 1943. This cut out whatever cartoonish amount of legitimacy remained in the German occupation of Greece.

The British and Americans funneled in all manner of weapons to the right-wing Greek resistance groups, and the Soviets did the same for the Communist Greeks and Yugoslavs. As of January of 1944, the region exploded with terrorist attacks and uprisings; with the Right and the Left competing to see who could outdo the other in harming the German occupiers. Vast pockets of the country became "ungovernable" to the Germans. By Summer of 1944, most of the Islands had declared for Emperor Constantine XII and were successfully liberated by the British and Americans; and conversely, most of Yugoslavia and Greek Makedonia were in the hands of the Communist rebels. In July of 1944, Thessaloniki was seized by the Communist rebels; with the Germans being driven eastward into Thrace, towards Constantinople. As such, the Germans forces were cut in two. In August, with the Soviets pushing through Eastern Europe towards Berlin, Hitler ordered most of the German troops in the Balkans to pull back North towards Germany proper. He did order the troops in Thrace and Constantinople to keep hold of the Bosporus Straits, and buttress Emperor Ermanos' tottering throne. In October of 1944, Gallipoli was liberated by a massive, combined, Greek, British and American force; and this opened the way to Constantinople. News of this, threw the people of Constantinople into riotous jubilation. Each took paving stones, pitchforks and torches in hand and marched towards the Blachernae Palace. The German troops, exhausted by years of fighting, and resentful themselves of Ermanos' cruelty and pomposity stood down; some even joined the Greeks in dragging Ermanos and his Staff from the Palace, and tearing them apart in the streets. The remaining German forces retreated from Constantinople to Adrianople. Within a day of this, the Allies landed in Constantinople, and secured the City. Emperor Constantine returned to the Capital a week later, and was welcomed by cheering crowds. He was properly coronated as Emperor in November of 1944. With the Germans gone, the right-wing Monarchist partisans and left-wing Communist partisans began fighting each other for control of the country. Most of the Islands, the Peloponnese and Thessaly were solidly Monarchist; but Athens, its environs, as well as Thessaloniki and Makedonia were pro-Communist.

After the final defeat and surrender of Nazi Germany, in May 1945, General Papagos was released from imprisonment in Germany, and allowed to return to Greece. Due to his status as a war-hero, and reputation as a great military leader; and the rising crisis, Emperor Constantine named Papagos as Imperial Chancellor. Papagos' first actions were to begin drafting young men from Monarchist regions; so as to rebuild the Greek Imperial Military; but in the interim, Papagos relied on American and British troops posted in Greece, to help deal with the Communist Partisans. In July, Greece signed a Defensive Pact with Britain and the United States; and granted them naval bases on Crete and Cyprus. In September of 1945, Greek, British, and American forces seized Piraeus and conquered Athens. The Communist Partisans there, made a final stand on the Acropolis, but they were eventually crushed. Meanwhile, guerrilla fighting continued in the countryside of Attica. After these events, the Greek Communist leadership in Thessaloniki, proclaimed the Hellenic Socialist Republic, and declared the Imperial Government to be "Fascist". This amounted essentially to a declaration of war.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.


Hey, so I got to the Greek Civil War; any idea what should happen next?

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Postby Lemlar » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:11 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:WIP
Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Constantine XIII (ruled: 1940 AD - Present); Chancellor Alexandros Papagos (ruled: 1941 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History: In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders.

The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

The Greco-Turkish War dragged on in a stalemate until the Stock Market Crash of 1929, when both Greece and Turkey being struck by economic difficulties, agreed to a ceasefire. The War had left Greece semi-successful but in a bad economic situation. Eager to take advantage of the chaotic political and economic situation, Venizelos, who had taken asylum in France following his ousting from office by Emperor Alexandros, back in 1923, plotted his return to power. In 1931, he landed on his home island of Crete, where he was much beloved, and missed by the local people, and there, he sought to repeat the formula of his success in 1917; and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in Irakleion. With the help of former Venizelist officers who had gone into exile with him, the local support of the Cretans, and with the tacit blessing of France; Venizelos was able to take over Crete and even win some of the neighbouring islands to him. The "Venizelist Fever" as it was called, also spread to islands under the "protection" of Foreign Powers, such as the Italian controlled Dodecanese, and the British controlled Cyprus. Both of these regions shook off British and Italian occupation, respectively, and joined themselves to Venizelos' "Hellenic Republic".

These developments raised the ire of the Great Powers of Britain and Italy; and this was seized upon by the politically astute Metaxas; who requested British and Italian aid to put down the Venizelist Revolt. In early 1932, the Venizelists attempted to seize the port of Kalamata, on the south of the Pelopponese; but they were repulsed by the battle-hardened military garrison there, and pushed back into the sea. In March, another Venizelist uprising occurred in the major northern Greek port of Thessaloniki. The military garrison there was unable to put down the revolt there, and the city was lost. Metaxas gathered an army and marched to Thessaloniki himself to put down the uprising. Also present to help the Imperial Government were forces sent by King Alexander I (ruled: 1918 - 1934) of Yugoslavia. By August, after a siege lasting several months; Thessaloniki was taken by the Imperialists. This reversal was followed by the arrival of an Italian Expeditionary Force as well as the British Royal Navy in the region. In conjunction with the Imperial Greek Navy and Army, the combined forces landed on Venizelos' stronghold of Crete; and trapped the would-be Prime Minister in his makeshift capital of Irakleion. The city fell to the British, Italian, and Greek Imperial forces in September, but during the chaos, Venizelos managed to escape to Cyprus. Throughout the remainder of 1932, and dragging on into 1933-1934, the coalition forces hopped from island to island, subduing the Venizelist garrisons and restoring Imperial rule over these areas. In 1934, Venizelos fled Cyprus for the safety of the French Mandate of Lebanon. He remained in comfortable exile in Beirut, in a swanky villa provided by the French Government; breathing his threats until his death in 1936.

After the subsiding of the "Venizelist Fever" (1931-1934), things calmed down for a very short time; but this was merely surface-level. Prime Minister Metaxas used the Venizelist uprising to his own advantage, to tighten his hold on the Government; something which the indolent Emperor Alexandros I not only did nothing to hinder, but actually encouraged. Metaxas was granted emergency powers and named as Chancellor of the Hellenic Empire. He created a secret police force known as the Security Battalions; with which he hunted down all Venizelists as well as Communists, Liberals, and anybody remotely Left-wing, labelling them "disturbers of the peace". In 1935, Metaxas signed trade and defence pacts with Benito Mussolini of Italy, and the aforementioned King Alexander I of Yugoslavia. He also maintained balanced and friendly relations with both Britain, and a resurgent German Reich. Using fund obtained from international trade, the Imperial Government rebuilt destroyed sections of Constantinople in a grand, new Hellenic Classical style (including the illustrious Blachernae Palace; built on the ruins of the Ottoman Sultan's Palace); roads and railroads throughout the country, etc. Meanwhile, the harsh persecutions against the "disturbers of the peace" encouraged the formation of underground political and revolutionary societies dedicated to the overthrowing of the Imperial Regime. However, they were forced to remain in hiding; and festered in secret.

In September of 1939, World War II was kicked off when Germany invaded Poland. Metaxas proclaimed neutrality, and maintained trade and diplomatic relations with both Britain and Germany. In February of 1940, Emperor Alexandros I died in a boating accident in the Sea of Marmara. His young, 13 year old son, Constantine became Emperor Constantine XII (Constantine XI was the last Byzantine Emperor, who died in 1453); with his mother, Empress Aspasia, and Chancellor Metaxas, assuming the Regency. In foreign affairs, things took a turn for the worst as well, as Fascist Italy became increasingly assertive and aggressive; and this pushed Metaxas to distance Greece from Italy and rely more on Britain; however, Metaxas also continued keeping good ties with Nazi Germany, hoping that Hitler would back him up against an increasingly belicose Mussolini. On October 28th, 1940, Mussolini issued an ultimatum to the Greek Government in Constantinople. Metaxas uttered his famous "Oxi", and the war began. Italian attempts to invade Greece through Albania were easily thwarted by General Alexandros Papagos; and Mussolini was forced to lick his wounds for the time being. British attempts to sway Metaxas to the Allied cause fell on deaf ears; as Metaxas was still reaching out to Berlin, hoping that Hitler would step in to mediate the situation, and Greece could return to neutrality. Alas, it was not to be, as Metaxas died suddenly in late January of 1941, after reigning 11 years as Prime Minister and 7 as Chancellor. In February, General Papagos marched on Constantinople, with the City garrison joining him on the way. The Blachernae Palace was surrounded, Empress Aspasia was deposed as Regent and exiled to a Monastery; and the Regency was assumed by Papagos himself. Within the month, the new Regent, officially joined the Allies, and a British Expeditionary Force had set itself up in Constantinople.

This coup prompted the Germans to invade Yugoslavia and Greece in April of 1941, so as to secure their southern flank. By the end of May, most of Greece was overrun by the Germans with the exception of East Thrace and Constantinople. Fearing the Fall of the City, Papagos took the young Emperor Constantine and the entire Court to flee into exile on a British battleship; but alas, they were captured at Gallipoli by the German Army. News of the Emperor's capture, caused the GReek defenders of East Thrace and Constantinople to wither; and the British Expeditionary Force packed up and escaped east through neutral Turkey. On June 1st, the Germans entered Constantinople. General Papagos was imprisoned in Germany, and the young Emperor was escorted back to Constantinople by the German Army. Hitler appointed Hermann Neubacher, an Austrian Nazi, as German Plenipotentiary of the Balkans, and also as Regent for the young Emperor Constantine. As such, Neubacher took up residence in the Blachernae Palace, and chose to run all his affairs from there; to this end, he annexed Yugoslavia to the Hellenic Empire (which was at this point a German puppet-state); this allowed the Germans to coordinate their occupation over a larger area, but it also allowed the Communist resistance forces to coordinate with each other much easier as well. Terrorist actions against the German occupiers by the Partisan forces became incredibly common; and German reprisals were just as harsh. Due to the brutality of the German occupation; many Greeks were in favour of the Resistance, and as such public opinion began to turn against the Imperial Government in Constantinople, which was understood to be a German puppet-state.

On March 25th 1942, however, events in Constantinople took an interesting turn, when the 15 year old Emperor Constantine XII publicly dismissed Neubacher as Regent, and kindly thanked the Germans for their "protection of his domain, and to kindly leave the country" (this happened as they were leaving the church service at the Cathedral of Aghia Sophia). Neubacher simply had the youth locked up in the Blachernae Palace, and continued to rule. While this act had zero practical difference, it symbolically separated the Emperor from the German occupiers, and a of support for the young monarch spread throughout the more traditionalist sectors of the occupied Greek nation. Right-wing resistance movements who wanted to "liberate the Emperor from his German captors" began to arise; and the Communists lost the monopoly on resisting the Germans. These right-wing, Monarchist partisans were especially supported by Britain and the United States, as an alternative to the pro-Soviet Communist resistance forces. For fear of similar such gaffes, Neubacher confined the Emperor to the Palace and did not allow him to go out in public; as such rumours began to swirl throughout the Capital that Neubacher had killed the Emperor and was simply ruling in his name. After about a year of being grounded in the Palace, the Emperor was allowed to attend church in the Aghia Sophia. As the Emperor walked into the church, for the Christmas Eve Vigil, the people crowded him and cheered, overwhelming his German "bodyguards". The young Emperor was whisked away by the Priest and the Deacons. The right-wing resistance groups successfully smuggled him out of the City via Constantinople's underground passages, and he made his way safely to Cyprus. From Nicosia, Constantine XII proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes'; declared the Regency null and void and the Germans as invaders and usurpers. Upon hearing of this, Neubacher proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes as Emperor Ermanos I, on December 31st, 1943. This cut out whatever cartoonish amount of legitimacy remained in the German occupation of Greece.

The British and Americans funneled in all manner of weapons to the right-wing Greek resistance groups, and the Soviets did the same for the Communist Greeks and Yugoslavs. As of January of 1944, the region exploded with terrorist attacks and uprisings; with the Right and the Left competing to see who could outdo the other in harming the German occupiers. Vast pockets of the country became "ungovernable" to the Germans. By Summer of 1944, most of the Islands had declared for Emperor Constantine XII and were successfully liberated by the British and Americans; and conversely, most of Yugoslavia and Greek Makedonia were in the hands of the Communist rebels. In July of 1944, Thessaloniki was seized by the Communist rebels; with the Germans being driven eastward into Thrace, towards Constantinople. As such, the Germans forces were cut in two. In August, with the Soviets pushing through Eastern Europe towards Berlin, Hitler ordered most of the German troops in the Balkans to pull back North towards Germany proper. He did order the troops in Thrace and Constantinople to keep hold of the Bosporus Straits, and buttress Emperor Ermanos' tottering throne. In October of 1944, Gallipoli was liberated by a massive, combined, Greek, British and American force; and this opened the way to Constantinople. News of this, threw the people of Constantinople into riotous jubilation. Each took paving stones, pitchforks and torches in hand and marched towards the Blachernae Palace. The German troops, exhausted by years of fighting, and resentful themselves of Ermanos' cruelty and pomposity stood down; some even joined the Greeks in dragging Ermanos and his Staff from the Palace, and tearing them apart in the streets. The remaining German forces retreated from Constantinople to Adrianople. Within a day of this, the Allies landed in Constantinople, and secured the City. Emperor Constantine returned to the Capital a week later, and was welcomed by cheering crowds. He was properly coronated as Emperor in November of 1944. With the Germans gone, the right-wing Monarchist partisans and left-wing Communist partisans began fighting each other for control of the country. Most of the Islands, the Peloponnese and Thessaly were solidly Monarchist; but Athens, its environs, as well as Thessaloniki and Makedonia were pro-Communist.

After the final defeat and surrender of Nazi Germany, in May 1945, General Papagos was released from imprisonment in Germany, and allowed to return to Greece. Due to his status as a war-hero, and reputation as a great military leader; and the rising crisis, Emperor Constantine named Papagos as Imperial Chancellor. Papagos' first actions were to begin drafting young men from Monarchist regions; so as to rebuild the Greek Imperial Military; but in the interim, Papagos relied on American and British troops posted in Greece, to help deal with the Communist Partisans. In July, Greece signed a Defensive Pact with Britain and the United States; and granted them naval bases on Crete and Cyprus. In September of 1945, Greek, British, and American forces seized Piraeus and conquered Athens. The Communist Partisans there, made a final stand on the Acropolis, but they were eventually crushed. Meanwhile, guerrilla fighting continued in the countryside of Attica. After these events, the Greek Communist leadership in Thessaloniki, proclaimed the Hellenic Socialist Republic, and declared the Imperial Government to be "Fascist". This amounted essentially to a declaration of war.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.


Hey, so I got to the Greek Civil War; any idea what should happen next?

Pls use a spoiler for ur back story so we don't have to see such a large word wall
Επίσημο 'Ονομα: Παγκόσμια Αυτοκρατορία Λεμλαρ
Αυτοκράτορας: Ανδρέασ Νεμεθ
Epstein didn't kill himself

Εκτακτες Ειδήσεις: LemlarΛεμλαρ, ξεκινώντας μια νέα εποχή καθώς το πράσινο κόμμα έχει δημιουργήσει έναν συνασπισμό με τους καθιερωμένους μοναρχικούς.

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