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Thoughts on rebooting?

1: Yes, reboot
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76%
2: A reboot is ok, but not now
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3: Don't reboot
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Total votes : 25

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Postby Demorvian » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:38 pm

Tag.
I'll go for a fascist Italy that sided with the allies in WW2.
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:55 pm

To answer Asardia's question, the confederate borders will be a little bit larger than they were in real life, but beyond the majority of the U.S is still around. Now as to whether it schismed or not into further nations is unknown. Will upload a map quite soon.
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Postby The Felan Federation » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:04 pm

Dentali wrote:
The Felan Federation wrote:Kek. World is Socialist...



China won’t be


Yet you are poor as dirt at this time of the year.

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Postby Asardia » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:28 pm

It appears there's quite a bit of confusion on the timeline. In that case, I'm thinking it would make more sense for events to go mostly the same up until the end of ww2. For example, a nationalist China could still happen, but a Confederate USA would cause way too many issues to be resolved. How would this affect the world wars? I should have thought this through beforehand.
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Postby Alta Californians » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:44 pm

Asardia wrote:It appears there's quite a bit of confusion on the timeline. In that case, I'm thinking it would make more sense for events to go mostly the same up until the end of ww2. For example, a nationalist China could still happen, but a Confederate USA would cause way too many issues to be resolved. How would this affect the world wars? I should have thought this through beforehand.

So willl you accept my app?

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Postby Asardia » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:50 pm

Alta Californians wrote:
Asardia wrote:It appears there's quite a bit of confusion on the timeline. In that case, I'm thinking it would make more sense for events to go mostly the same up until the end of ww2. For example, a nationalist China could still happen, but a Confederate USA would cause way too many issues to be resolved. How would this affect the world wars? I should have thought this through beforehand.

So willl you accept my app?


I still want to know why Belgium would sell half their territory to France, and why Spain would give up Catalonia.
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Postby The Felan Federation » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:52 pm

Asardia wrote:It appears there's quite a bit of confusion on the timeline. In that case, I'm thinking it would make more sense for events to go mostly the same up until the end of ww2. For example, a nationalist China could still happen, but a Confederate USA would cause way too many issues to be resolved. How would this affect the world wars? I should have thought this through beforehand.


I think the most maximum Point of Divergence that may be allowed would be perhaps 1939 - 1949? Before World War Two and after World War Two.

Plenty of time and chances to change things there I'd wager. If you think that might suit better than going 'very' far into the past.
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Postby Alta Californians » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:58 pm

Asardia wrote:
Alta Californians wrote:So willl you accept my app?


I still want to know why Belgium would sell half their territory to France, and why Spain would give up Catalonia.

hmmm ok I'll write a more in-depthreason for why.
wait a sec I must've not been thinking. Catalans aren't that close to french. I'll change that

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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:01 pm

Asardia wrote:It appears there's quite a bit of confusion on the timeline. In that case, I'm thinking it would make more sense for events to go mostly the same up until the end of ww2. For example, a nationalist China could still happen, but the Confederate USA would cause way too many issues to be resolved. How would this affect the world wars? I should have thought this through beforehand.

Issues on what front exactly? The way I see it, the war between the states gets what the confederates want, but ultimately a nightmare and the dream of nationhood collapses in on itself. The primary reason an anarcho-socialist government is in power because this confederacy lost the first world war, and limped on until collapsing into revolutionary fervor. If anything having such a government occupy territory right next to the U.S would rightly spur any government in the United States into a more extreme brand of anti-communist, and potential anti-leftism in general.

The U.S still has the industrial heartland to power the machines of war as well as a population that outnumbers the former confederacy three to one. Hence why it's rare to read alt-histories of confederate victories in WW1 due to that imbalance.
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:03 pm

In regards to the Franco-Belgian issue, there is the fact a nice chunk of Belgium has a french speaking ethnic group inside the country. Yet this would only incentivize either the Dutch or Germans to puppet the remnants of Belgium (or integrate them) in response.
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Postby Alta Californians » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:52 pm

All done! Fixed it!

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:57 am

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Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Constantine XII (ruled: 1940 AD - Present); Empress Mother Aspasia; Chancellor Dimitrios Giatzis (ruled: 1948 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History:
In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders.

The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

The Greco-Turkish War dragged on in a stalemate until the Stock Market Crash of 1929, when both Greece and Turkey being struck by economic difficulties, agreed to a ceasefire. The War had left Greece semi-successful but in a bad economic situation. Eager to take advantage of the chaotic political and economic situation, Venizelos, who had taken asylum in France following his ousting from office by Emperor Alexandros, back in 1923, plotted his return to power. In 1931, he landed on his home island of Crete, where he was much beloved, and missed by the local people, and there, he sought to repeat the formula of his success in 1917; and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in Irakleion. With the help of former Venizelist officers who had gone into exile with him, the local support of the Cretans, and with the tacit blessing of France; Venizelos was able to take over Crete and even win some of the neighbouring islands to him. The "Venizelist Fever" as it was called, also spread to islands under the "protection" of Foreign Powers, such as the Italian controlled Dodecanese, and the British controlled Cyprus. Both of these regions shook off British and Italian occupation, respectively, and joined themselves to Venizelos' "Hellenic Republic".

These developments raised the ire of the Great Powers of Britain and Italy; and this was seized upon by the politically astute Metaxas; who requested British and Italian aid to put down the Venizelist Revolt. In early 1932, the Venizelists attempted to seize the port of Kalamata, on the south of the Pelopponese; but they were repulsed by the battle-hardened military garrison there, and pushed back into the sea. In March, another Venizelist uprising occurred in the major northern Greek port of Thessaloniki. The military garrison there was unable to put down the revolt there, and the city was lost. Metaxas gathered an army and marched to Thessaloniki himself to put down the uprising. Also present to help the Imperial Government were forces sent by King Alexander I (ruled: 1918 - 1934) of Yugoslavia. By August, after a siege lasting several months; Thessaloniki was taken by the Imperialists. This reversal was followed by the arrival of an Italian Expeditionary Force as well as the British Royal Navy in the region. In conjunction with the Imperial Greek Navy and Army, the combined forces landed on Venizelos' stronghold of Crete; and trapped the would-be Prime Minister in his makeshift capital of Irakleion. The city fell to the British, Italian, and Greek Imperial forces in September, but during the chaos, Venizelos managed to escape to Cyprus. Throughout the remainder of 1932, and dragging on into 1933-1934, the coalition forces hopped from island to island, subduing the Venizelist garrisons and restoring Imperial rule over these areas. In 1934, Venizelos fled Cyprus for the safety of the French Mandate of Lebanon. He remained in comfortable exile in Beirut, in a swanky villa provided by the French Government; breathing his threats until his death in 1936.

After the subsiding of the "Venizelist Fever" (1931-1934), things calmed down for a very short time; but this was merely surface-level. Prime Minister Metaxas used the Venizelist uprising to his own advantage, to tighten his hold on the Government; something which the indolent Emperor Alexandros I not only did nothing to hinder, but actually encouraged. Metaxas was granted emergency powers and named as Chancellor of the Hellenic Empire. He created a secret police force known as the Security Battalions; with which he hunted down all Venizelists as well as Communists, Liberals, and anybody remotely Left-wing, labelling them "disturbers of the peace". In 1935, Metaxas signed trade and defence pacts with Benito Mussolini of Italy, and the aforementioned King Alexander I of Yugoslavia. He also maintained balanced and friendly relations with both Britain, and a resurgent German Reich. Using fund obtained from international trade, the Imperial Government rebuilt destroyed sections of Constantinople in a grand, new Hellenic Classical style (including the illustrious Blachernae Palace; built on the ruins of the Ottoman Sultan's Palace); roads and railroads throughout the country, etc. Meanwhile, the harsh persecutions against the "disturbers of the peace" encouraged the formation of underground political and revolutionary societies dedicated to the overthrowing of the Imperial Regime. However, they were forced to remain in hiding; and festered in secret.

In September of 1939, World War II was kicked off when Germany invaded Poland. Metaxas proclaimed neutrality, and maintained trade and diplomatic relations with both Britain and Germany. In February of 1940, Emperor Alexandros I died in a boating accident in the Sea of Marmara. His young, 13 year old son, Constantine became Emperor Constantine XII (Constantine XI was the last Byzantine Emperor, who died in 1453); with his mother, Empress Aspasia, and Chancellor Metaxas, assuming the Regency. In foreign affairs, things took a turn for the worst as well, as Fascist Italy became increasingly assertive and aggressive; and this pushed Metaxas to distance Greece from Italy and rely more on Britain; however, Metaxas also continued keeping good ties with Nazi Germany, hoping that Hitler would back him up against an increasingly belicose Mussolini. On October 28th, 1940, Mussolini issued an ultimatum to the Greek Government in Constantinople. Metaxas uttered his famous "Oxi", and the war began. Italian attempts to invade Greece through Albania were easily thwarted by General Alexandros Papagos; and Mussolini was forced to lick his wounds for the time being. British attempts to sway Metaxas to the Allied cause fell on deaf ears; as Metaxas was still reaching out to Berlin, hoping that Hitler would step in to mediate the situation, and Greece could return to neutrality. Alas, it was not to be, as Metaxas died suddenly in late January of 1941, after reigning 11 years as Prime Minister and 7 as Chancellor. In February, General Papagos marched on Constantinople, with the City garrison joining him on the way. The Blachernae Palace was surrounded, Empress Aspasia was deposed as Regent and exiled to a Monastery; and the Regency was assumed by Papagos himself. Within the month, the new Regent, officially joined the Allies, and a British Expeditionary Force had set itself up in Constantinople.

This coup prompted the Germans to invade Yugoslavia and Greece in April of 1941, so as to secure their southern flank. By the end of May, most of Greece was overrun by the Germans with the exception of East Thrace and Constantinople. Fearing the Fall of the City, Papagos took the young Emperor Constantine and the entire Court to flee into exile on a British battleship; but alas, they were captured at Gallipoli by the German Army. News of the Emperor's capture, caused the GReek defenders of East Thrace and Constantinople to wither; and the British Expeditionary Force packed up and escaped east through neutral Turkey. On June 1st, the Germans entered Constantinople. General Papagos was imprisoned in Germany, and the young Emperor was escorted back to Constantinople by the German Army. Hitler appointed Hermann Neubacher, an Austrian Nazi, as German Plenipotentiary of the Balkans, and also as Regent for the young Emperor Constantine. As such, Neubacher took up residence in the Blachernae Palace, and chose to run all his affairs from there; to this end, he annexed Yugoslavia to the Hellenic Empire (which was at this point a German puppet-state); this allowed the Germans to coordinate their occupation over a larger area, but it also allowed the Communist resistance forces to coordinate with each other much easier as well. Terrorist actions against the German occupiers by the Partisan forces became incredibly common; and German reprisals were just as harsh. Due to the brutality of the German occupation; many Greeks were in favour of the Resistance, and as such public opinion began to turn against the Imperial Government in Constantinople, which was understood to be a German puppet-state.

On March 25th 1942, however, events in Constantinople took an interesting turn, when the 15 year old Emperor Constantine XII publicly dismissed Neubacher as Regent, and kindly thanked the Germans for their "protection of his domain, and to kindly leave the country" (this happened as they were leaving the church service at the Cathedral of Aghia Sophia). Neubacher simply had the youth locked up in the Blachernae Palace, and continued to rule. While this act had zero practical difference, it symbolically separated the Emperor from the German occupiers, and a of support for the young monarch spread throughout the more traditionalist sectors of the occupied Greek nation. Right-wing resistance movements who wanted to "liberate the Emperor from his German captors" began to arise; and the Communists lost the monopoly on resisting the Germans. These right-wing, Monarchist partisans were especially supported by Britain and the United States, as an alternative to the pro-Soviet Communist resistance forces. For fear of similar such gaffes, Neubacher confined the Emperor to the Palace and did not allow him to go out in public; as such rumours began to swirl throughout the Capital that Neubacher had killed the Emperor and was simply ruling in his name. After about a year of being grounded in the Palace, the Emperor was allowed to attend church in the Aghia Sophia. As the Emperor walked into the church, for the Christmas Eve Vigil, the people crowded him and cheered, overwhelming his German "bodyguards". The young Emperor was whisked away by the Priest and the Deacons. The right-wing resistance groups successfully smuggled him out of the City via Constantinople's underground passages, and he made his way safely to Cyprus. From Nicosia, Constantine XII proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes'; declared the Regency null and void and the Germans as invaders and usurpers. Upon hearing of this, Neubacher proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes as Emperor Ermanos I, on December 31st, 1943. This cut out whatever cartoonish amount of legitimacy remained in the German occupation of Greece.

The British and Americans funneled in all manner of weapons to the right-wing Greek resistance groups, and the Soviets did the same for the Communist Greeks and Yugoslavs. As of January of 1944, the region exploded with terrorist attacks and uprisings; with the Right and the Left competing to see who could outdo the other in harming the German occupiers. Vast pockets of the country became "ungovernable" to the Germans. By Summer of 1944, most of the Islands had declared for Emperor Constantine XII and were successfully liberated by the British and Americans; and conversely, most of Yugoslavia and Greek Makedonia were in the hands of the Communist rebels. In July of 1944, Thessaloniki was seized by the Communist rebels; with the Germans being driven eastward into Thrace, towards Constantinople. As such, the Germans forces were cut in two. In August, with the Soviets pushing through Eastern Europe towards Berlin, Hitler ordered most of the German troops in the Balkans to pull back North towards Germany proper. He did order the troops in Thrace and Constantinople to keep hold of the Bosporus Straits, and buttress Emperor Ermanos' tottering throne. In October of 1944, Gallipoli was liberated by a massive, combined, Greek, British and American force; and this opened the way to Constantinople. News of this, threw the people of Constantinople into riotous jubilation. Each took paving stones, pitchforks and torches in hand and marched towards the Blachernae Palace. The German troops, exhausted by years of fighting, and resentful themselves of Ermanos' cruelty and pomposity stood down; some even joined the Greeks in dragging Ermanos and his Staff from the Palace, and tearing them apart in the streets. The remaining German forces retreated from Constantinople to Adrianople. Within a day of this, the Allies landed in Constantinople, and secured the City. Emperor Constantine returned to the Capital a week later, and was welcomed by cheering crowds. He was properly coronated as Emperor in November of 1944. With the Germans gone, the right-wing Monarchist partisans and left-wing Communist partisans began fighting each other for control of the country. Most of the Islands, the Peloponnese and Thessaly were solidly Monarchist; but Athens, its environs, as well as Thessaloniki and Makedonia were pro-Communist.

After the final defeat and surrender of Nazi Germany, in May 1945, General Papagos was released from imprisonment in Germany, and allowed to return to Greece. Due to his status as a war-hero, and reputation as a great military leader; and the rising crisis, Emperor Constantine named Papagos as Imperial Chancellor. Papagos' first actions were to begin drafting young men from Monarchist regions; so as to rebuild the Greek Imperial Military; but in the interim, Papagos relied on American and British troops posted in Greece, to help deal with the Communist Partisans. In July, Greece signed a Defensive Pact with Britain and the United States; and granted them naval bases on Crete and Cyprus. In September of 1945, Greek, British, and American forces seized Piraeus and conquered Athens. The Communist Partisans there, made a final stand on the Acropolis, but they were eventually crushed. Meanwhile, guerrilla fighting continued in the countryside of Attica. After these events, the Greek Communist leadership in Thessaloniki, proclaimed the Hellenic Socialist Republic, and declared the Imperial Government to be "Fascist". This amounted essentially to a declaration of war.

Papagos wasted no time in making war on self-styled Republic. The Greek Army, along with forces from the British Expeditionary Force stationed in Constantinople advanced on Thessaloniki, surrounding both by land and by sea. The city was under siege; as the Communists had too strong of a hold inside the city, for it to be immediately assaulted. The siege began in November of 1945, and dragged on for a year and a half. In May of 1947, the Imperialist forces entered the city; but the fight was not over. What followed were several weeks of bloody street fighting between the Greek Army and the Communists; as the Imperialists had to fight their way through street barricades, set up by the Communists. While the city was officially subdued on June 29th, 1947, much of the Communist leadership of the Hellenic Socialist Republic fled to Tito's Yugoslavia; proclaiming a "Government-in-Exile". This defeat caused the Communist insurgency in Greece to die down for a very short time. In the meantime, Papagos and the Army continued hunting down Communist cells in the countryside of Makedonia, where they were strongest. Many more fled to Yugoslavia. In February of 1948, Emperor Constantine brought back his mother, Aspasia from exile. As the Regency was abolished, she was not reinstated as Empress Regent, but rather as Empress Mother; and the young 21 year old Emperor took her advice very seriously. Fearing he would suffer for his role in toppling Empress Aspasia some 7 years earlier, Papagos resigned as Chancellor in March of 1948, and in his place, the young Emperor appointed Lieutenant-General Dimitrios Giatzis; Chief of the Imperial Army General Staff.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.
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Postby Hypron » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:14 am

Country Name: United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland
Head of State/Government: King George VI/ Prime Minister Winston Spencer Churchill
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: London, England
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) The British Empire except India (I cant upload a picture to here as the website i used to use stopped working)
Population: 412,000,000
Faction: NATO
History: After the first world wars gripped the Empire, major political and economic problems gripped the nation. This was made even worse by The Great Depression, sending the British economy into free-fall. By 1939, however, Britain was a economic powerhouse once more. This came into play during WW2, when they needed this money to buy equipment from the United States. The British Empire was one of the Major powers in WW2, defeating Germany and Japan and bringing balance to Europe. The British Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, was the first to prepare with possible war with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in Europe.
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:15 am

Country Name: The United States of Brazil
Head of State/Government: Getúlio Vargas
Type of Government: Multi-party Republic
Capital: Brasília
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Brazil
Population: 70,992,343
Faction: Nato-Leaning although not an official member
History:

From the end of the Empire Brazil had been a nation that struggled to make a place in the world with the landowning elite control most of the country and nearly all of its politics and until 1930 Brazil was little more then an oligarchy. However in 1930 all that changed when the Revolution overthrew the old republic and at first established a interim government before creating a Republic in 1934, but things were not to be peachy as believed when in 1937 Vargas declared a State of emergency that effectively destroyed the republic that had been created with Vargas becoming the Dictator. In the years that followed Brazil entered what was called the Estado Novo era or New State. This was marked by Vargas attempts to reform Brazil into a modern nation as well as destroying the old powers of the elite and promoting the average people of Brazil.

It would be the Second World War that would provide the opportunity to make Brazil into the state he wanted. Brazil would enter the war on the allied side just a few days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour and would declare war on the Axis. Vargas now saw two opportunities, one was to begin a massive industrialisation and facial project that would greatly improve the economy of Brazil, and the other was to rid Brazil of the old guard which still haunted it. The Brazilian government would begin a massive land leasing program where allied nation could pay for material support in exchange for heavy machinery as well as industrial expertise. They would also support the allied nations through loans as well as providing food for most of the allied nations most importantly Britain. Vargas was also very clever he decided to send soldiers and generals off to war and keep his more loyal supports around him in Brazil. Through this he would launch many reforms like restructuring the armed forces so they are not as political strong as well pushing through land reform that would destroy the power of the elite.

By the end of the war Brazil had been revolutionised into a modern powerhouse with a strong economy as well a riding Brazil of many of the political problems that had plagued it and in the end Brazil would be further rewarded. On the 12th of May 1945 Vargas would announce the 1946 constitution that bring about the end of dictatorship and a new Republic on the 1st of January 1946. Brazil had came out of the War economical better off then when it had started, reaping in the profits of the War had made Brazil quite rich and in the following a small boom had come to Brazil but the rest of the world still suffered from the after effects. However as the end of the decade comes round Brazil has much to shine for, it is the shinning beacon of the south some say making its way up in the world and onto glory.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:55 am

Asardia wrote:It appears there's quite a bit of confusion on the timeline. In that case, I'm thinking it would make more sense for events to go mostly the same up until the end of ww2. For example, a nationalist China could still happen, but a Confederate USA would cause way too many issues to be resolved. How would this affect the world wars? I should have thought this through beforehand.



Can you please make this a gigantic big bold post that people can't miss? Also China app coming today
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Postby Dentali » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:31 am

Any chance i can play the united states since the earlier confederate app would be disregarded under the new rules? if so please disregard the china reservation and reserve the united states
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Postby Derika » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:55 am

Country Name: Yugoslavian SFR
Head of State/Government: Josip Tito
Type of Government: Socialist Federal Republic
Capital: Belgrade
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here): Area encompassing Yugoslavia after WW2 (Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Macedonia. )
Population: 8.5 million, give or take. I couldn't fine any Yugoslavian figures, so I had to use ex-Yugoslavian nations and subtract a couple million.)
Faction: Warsaw Pact (Hopefully)
History: The Yugoslavian SFR has its roots stretching to 1942, Anti-Fascist Council for National Liberation of Yugoslavia was formed. Near the end of November, 1945, after King Peter II was deposed, the SFR was proclaimed. In 1948, the binds were locked between the two nations as Tito signed an economic and military alliance with the Soviets, expanding the sphere of Soviet influence.


(This is a timeline where there is no Tito-Stalin split, if that's fine with you, Asardia.

(If you need me to edit, let me know
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Postby Dentali » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:53 am

Country Name: United States of America
Head of State/Government: Harry Truman
Type of Government: Democracy
Capital: Washington DC
Map/location IRL United States
Population: 152.3 million people
Faction: NATO
History: IRL United States





Country Name: China
Head of State/Government: Prime Minister Zhang Lan
Type of Government: Parliamentary Democracy
Capital: Bejing
Map/location
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China never invaded Tibet in this timeline and Taiwan hasn't broken off

Population: 551.9 million people
Faction: None but leaning towards United States
History: Following the end of WW2 General George Marshall was sent to China to help negotiate a unified government between Communist and Nationalist China. Unlike IRL timeline, this mission was successful and in 1946 a unity government was proclaimed with the first elections occurring in January of 1948 under the supervision of the UN.

The election was difficult but ended with a winning coalition of the Democratic Unity Party led by Zhang Lan (37%) and the Kuomintang led by Chiang Kai-shek (22%). Mao’s Communist party took 38% of the vote, in coalition with the Socialist Party taking 3% of the vote.. In 1948 the Unified government released a 20 point program of Economic, Corruption and Financial Reform, with the assistance of several billion dollars from the United States and soft credit, as well as indirect stimulus of US food.

China restarted its economy, using land reform laws inspired by the ones American enacted in Japan removing the landlord class and created a higher number of peasants who, with the help of the government, drastically increased agricultural output. This in turn liberated much of the agricultural workforce to work in urban sectors, in turn control of the banks an import licenses allowed the state to push the economy to focus on industrialization creating capitalism in a fully protected market.

Together with USAID China has begun work on massive industrial infrastructure, communications and education. In the past 2 years growth has had an annual average of 6.9% and the GNP has grown over 300%.

In 1950 in a landslide victory the DUP took 46% of the vote, still in coalition with the Kuomintang who took 15% of the vote, Mao’s party took 30% of the vote and the Socialist party took 9%. The liberalizing reforms were clearly widely popular and their success was felt across the nation. With a strong and growing economy, China now looks to the future and to find its place in the world.
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Asardia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:41 am

Alta Californians wrote:
Country Name:The Syndicates of France
Head of State/Government:Adolphe Reanoú
Type of Government: French Syndicalist Republicanism
Capital:Paris
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here)
Located in modern-day france, with added Wallonie, andEast Switzerland
Population:32 Million people
Faction:Undecided(will decide after 2nd Congress)
History:In 1910, a Syndicalists victory in the french electon caused french Bourgoise to declare war on this nation.The traitorous leaders were arrested less than a week after the declaration of war, and the 3rd Republic surrendered. The 4th Republic was dismantled, into the 5th Republic. The 1st Congress of Socialists of France(1st Congress) Was called on November 13th,1948, ti decide the path of the nation.After it, the general Election came,where the Syndicalists won, and began the Syndicate. The Syndicalists have been in power always, except for the 4th congress period, where power was taken by the Communists.The Communists influenced pro-french Seperatists in Wallonie and Eastern switzerland, gven that these places are french.Once that happened, they made those now free nations beg for annexation, which france would do. Soon, the 7th Congress will come, and with it, a ideological battle between French Communists, who lean to the USSR, French Social Democrats, whom lean to the US, or the Syndicalists, whom wish for a 3rd path, one to unite all syndicates of the world!


Accepted. Belgium and Switzerland's reactions to this should also be mentioned, but it's ok for now

Nea Byzantia wrote:WIP
Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Alexandros I (ruled King of the Hellenes: 1917 AD - 1921 AD; ruled as Emperor of the Hellenes: 1921 AD - Present); Prime Minister Ioannis Metaxas (ruled: 1936 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, Albania, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History: In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders. The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.


Seems like you're done with the app. I'm not sure why Albania is occupied by the Greeks, but the rest is accepted

Hypron wrote:
Country Name: United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland
Head of State/Government: King George VI/ Prime Minister Winston Spencer Churchill
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: London, England
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) The British Empire except India (I cant upload a picture to here as the website i used to use stopped working)
Population: 412,000,000
Faction: NATO
History: After the first world wars gripped the Empire, major political and economic problems gripped the nation. This was made even worse by The Great Depression, sending the British economy into free-fall. By 1939, however, Britain was a economic powerhouse once more. This came into play during WW2, when they needed this money to buy equipment from the United States. The British Empire was one of the Major powers in WW2, defeating Germany and Japan and bringing balance to Europe. The British Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, was the first to prepare with possible war with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in Europe.


Accepted

Dentali wrote:Any chance i can play the united states since the earlier confederate app would be disregarded under the new rules? if so please disregard the china reservation and reserve the united states


I'll leave the US to The Hobbesian Metaphysician, since he made the Confederate app first.

Derika wrote:
Country Name: Yugoslavian SFR
Head of State/Government: Josip Tito
Type of Government: Socialist Federal Republic
Capital: Belgrade
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here): Area encompassing Yugoslavia after WW2 (Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Macedonia. )
Population: 8.5 million, give or take. I couldn't fine any Yugoslavian figures, so I had to use ex-Yugoslavian nations and subtract a couple million.)
Faction: Warsaw Pact (Hopefully)
History: The Yugoslavian SFR has its roots stretching to 1942, Anti-Fascist Council for National Liberation of Yugoslavia was formed. Near the end of November, 1945, after King Peter II was deposed, the SFR was proclaimed. In 1948, the binds were locked between the two nations as Tito signed an economic and military alliance with the Soviets, expanding the sphere of Soviet influence.


(This is a timeline where there is no Tito-Stalin split, if that's fine with you, Asardia.

(If you need me to edit, let me know


Accepted

Dentali wrote:
Country Name: United States of America
Head of State/Government: Harry Truman
Type of Government: Democracy
Capital: Washington DC
Map/location IRL United States
Population: 152.3 million people
Faction: NATO
History: IRL United States





Country Name: China
Head of State/Government: Prime Minister Zhang Lan
Type of Government: Parliamentary Democracy
Capital: Bejing
Map/location
(Image)
China never invaded Tibet in this timeline and Taiwan hasn't broken off

Population: 551.9 million people
Faction: None but leaning towards United States
History: Following the end of WW2 General George Marshall was sent to China to help negotiate a unified government between Communist and Nationalist China. Unlike IRL timeline, this mission was successful and in 1946 a unity government was proclaimed with the first elections occurring in January of 1948 under the supervision of the UN.

The election was difficult but ended with a winning coalition of the Democratic Unity Party led by Zhang Lan (37%) and the Kuomintang led by Chiang Kai-shek (22%). Mao’s Communist party took 38% of the vote, in coalition with the Socialist Party taking 3% of the vote.. In 1948 the Unified government released a 20 point program of Economic, Corruption and Financial Reform, with the assistance of several billion dollars from the United States and soft credit, as well as indirect stimulus of US food.

China restarted its economy, using land reform laws inspired by the ones American enacted in Japan removing the landlord class and created a higher number of peasants who, with the help of the government, drastically increased agricultural output. This in turn liberated much of the agricultural workforce to work in urban sectors, in turn control of the banks an import licenses allowed the state to push the economy to focus on industrialization creating capitalism in a fully protected market.

Together with USAID China has begun work on massive industrial infrastructure, communications and education. In the past 2 years growth has had an annual average of 6.9% and the GNP has grown over 300%.

In 1950 in a landslide victory the DUP took 46% of the vote, still in coalition with the Kuomintang who took 15% of the vote, Mao’s party took 30% of the vote and the Socialist party took 9%. The liberalizing reforms were clearly widely popular and their success was felt across the nation. With a strong and growing economy, China now looks to the future and to find its place in the world.


I'll accept China, as I said earlier in this post.
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Postby Derika » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:51 am

Aight, thanks mate.
my evidence? trust me bro

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Postby Dentali » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:03 am

CHINA WILL GROW LARGER

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Postby Hypron » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:48 am

first Step: Bigger Navy

I need to acquire some Alaska class large cruisers.

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Postby Dentali » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:49 am

WE NEED A UNITED STATES AND A SOVIET UNION
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Greater Liverpool » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:49 am

My app is done btw
An orthodox convert who doesn't support Russia

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Postby Greater Liverpool » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:50 am

Dentali wrote:WE NEED A UNITED STATES AND A SOVIET UNION


Op is the Soviet Union
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