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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 3:09 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"The lady from New Hampshire makes a ... confusing ... argument. Quite frankly, the answer is no. The bill makes no reference, explicit or implied, to forced sterilization. It merely prohibits the murder of the unborn."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Clearly the gentleman from Missouri misunderstands my question. If we establish that the federal government has the authority to force upon a capable adult, able to make their own decisions and give their own consent, a medical decision, does that not therefore mean that authority could be subsequently abused for procedures such as forced sterlization, to give an example?"

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"I do not consider abortion to be a medical decision. It is murder, and is no more of a medical procedure than an assasination."
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United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Clause 1 of Section 2 of your proposed legislation outlines that anyone who 'abets' an abortion shall be guilty of an offense. Does that include the woman exercising capable consent in the receipt of the abortion? Or would they otherwise be considered to be engaged in a conspiracy to aid the doctor in conducting the abortion and otherwise still be considered afoul of federal law under your proposal?"
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Eugene Obradovic - D-IL - President pro tempore of the United States Senate, senior Senator from the State of Illinois
Caroline Simone - D-NY - Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Representative for the 12th District of New York
Abigail Jekyll-Jones - R-OR - Chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, Representative for the 2nd District of Oregon
Bryan Burgess - R-CT - White House Press Secretary
Jonah Prendergast Jr. - R-WV - Governor of West Virginia, former Secretary of Labor
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 3:35 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Clause 1 of Section 2 of your proposed legislation outlines that anyone who 'abets' an abortion shall be guilty of an offense. Does that include the woman exercising capable consent in the receipt of the abortion? Or would they otherwise be considered to be engaged in a conspiracy to aid the doctor in conducting the abortion and otherwise still be considered afoul of federal law under your proposal?"

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is not my intent that that would be the case.

"Mr Speaker, motion to end questioning."
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Tue May 12, 2020 3:39 pm

Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is not my intent that that would be the case.

"Mr Speaker, motion to end questioning."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Objection."

"The question is not regarding your intent, but rather, do you think it is possible that a judge could construe the wording of this bill to criminalize and punish the women involved rather than simply the doctors alone?"
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Caroline Simone - D-NY - Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Representative for the 12th District of New York
Abigail Jekyll-Jones - R-OR - Chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, Representative for the 2nd District of Oregon
Bryan Burgess - R-CT - White House Press Secretary
Jonah Prendergast Jr. - R-WV - Governor of West Virginia, former Secretary of Labor
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 3:52 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is not my intent that that would be the case.

"Mr Speaker, motion to end questioning."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Objection."

"The question is not regarding your intent, but rather, do you think it is possible that a judge could construe the wording of this bill to criminalize and punish the women involved rather than simply the doctors alone?"

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"I am not going to be dealing with hypotheticals, Senator, they are not my business."
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue May 12, 2020 3:55 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Clause 1 of Section 2 of your proposed legislation outlines that anyone who 'abets' an abortion shall be guilty of an offense. Does that include the woman exercising capable consent in the receipt of the abortion? Or would they otherwise be considered to be engaged in a conspiracy to aid the doctor in conducting the abortion and otherwise still be considered afoul of federal law under your proposal?"

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is not my intent that that would be the case.

"Mr Speaker, motion to end questioning."

Senator Goldman (D-CT): "Seconded, and motion to begin debate."
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 3:55 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is not my intent that that would be the case.

"Mr Speaker, motion to end questioning."

Senator Goldman (D-CT): "Seconded, and motion to begin debate."

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Objection!"
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Governor Tara Misra (R-KY)

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Tue May 12, 2020 3:56 pm

Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"I am not going to be dealing with hypotheticals, Senator, they are not my business."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"You penned the bill, Senator Anderson, it is entirely your business whether or not the wording of the legislation may well be used to target and do harm to women at the hands of an overzealous justice."
Neoliberal
"Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity."
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Eugene Obradovic - D-IL - President pro tempore of the United States Senate, senior Senator from the State of Illinois
Caroline Simone - D-NY - Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Representative for the 12th District of New York
Abigail Jekyll-Jones - R-OR - Chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, Representative for the 2nd District of Oregon
Bryan Burgess - R-CT - White House Press Secretary
Jonah Prendergast Jr. - R-WV - Governor of West Virginia, former Secretary of Labor
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 3:58 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"I am not going to be dealing with hypotheticals, Senator, they are not my business."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"You penned the bill, Senator Anderson, it is entirely your business whether or not the wording of the legislation may well be used to target and do harm to women at the hands of an overzealous justice."

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is a hypothetical. It has been part, parcel and practice of debating in this chamber to not deal in hypotheticals for decades. I would expect better from the lady from New Hampshire."
Labour Party (UK), Progressive Democrat (US)
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Former Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)

Governor Tara Misra (R-KY)

Representative John Atang (D-NY03)

Governor Max Smith (R-AZ)

State Senator Simon Hawkins (D-IA)

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Tue May 12, 2020 3:59 pm

Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is a hypothetical. It has been part, parcel and practice of debating in this chamber to not deal in hypotheticals for decades. I would expect better from the lady from New Hampshire."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Can the gentleman from Missouri rule out that this law could be used as a legal bludgeon against American women or not?"
Neoliberal
"Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity."
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Eugene Obradovic - D-IL - President pro tempore of the United States Senate, senior Senator from the State of Illinois
Caroline Simone - D-NY - Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Representative for the 12th District of New York
Abigail Jekyll-Jones - R-OR - Chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, Representative for the 2nd District of Oregon
Bryan Burgess - R-CT - White House Press Secretary
Jonah Prendergast Jr. - R-WV - Governor of West Virginia, former Secretary of Labor
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 4:00 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"It is a hypothetical. It has been part, parcel and practice of debating in this chamber to not deal in hypotheticals for decades. I would expect better from the lady from New Hampshire."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"Can the gentleman from Missouri rule out that this law could be used as a legal bludgeon against American women or not?"

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Personally, yes I can."
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Tue May 12, 2020 4:02 pm

Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Personally, yes I can."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"What is the legal reasoning for the gentleman from Missouri to give that assurance?"
Neoliberal
"Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity."
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Eugene Obradovic - D-IL - President pro tempore of the United States Senate, senior Senator from the State of Illinois
Caroline Simone - D-NY - Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, Representative for the 12th District of New York
Abigail Jekyll-Jones - R-OR - Chair of the House Natural Resources Committee, Representative for the 2nd District of Oregon
Bryan Burgess - R-CT - White House Press Secretary
Jonah Prendergast Jr. - R-WV - Governor of West Virginia, former Secretary of Labor
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Postby Meelducan » Tue May 12, 2020 4:03 pm

Senate Floor

"The floor remains open for questions. No other motions are in order."
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 4:10 pm

Meelducan wrote:
Senate Floor

"The floor remains open for questions. No other motions are in order."

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Motion to end questioning."
Labour Party (UK), Progressive Democrat (US)
Left Without Edge
Former Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)

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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 4:11 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Personally, yes I can."


United States Senate
Senator Augusta Merriam
[Republican - State of New Hampshire]

"What is the legal reasoning for the gentleman from Missouri to give that assurance?"

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"The language of the bill does not mention or even imply that, Senator."
Labour Party (UK), Progressive Democrat (US)
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Former Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue May 12, 2020 4:11 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Meelducan wrote:
Senate Floor

"The floor remains open for questions. No other motions are in order."

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Motion to end questioning."

"Seconded."
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 4:15 pm

Anderson texts Slater.

Can you get this Merriam RINO bitch to shut up? I need her gagged and thrown out, literally or metaphorically, so we can get this shit through.
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Postby Meelducan » Tue May 12, 2020 4:50 pm

Senate Floor

"Without objection, the motion is agreed to. The floor is open to motion and debate."
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Postby Meelducan » Tue May 12, 2020 4:50 pm

Senate Floor

Michelle rose as soon as the debate began, making sure no other Senator could have the floor. She began speaking.

"Mr. President, it is extremely clear that people will feel many different ways on this bill, that's why we need to have honest and straightforward debate. With that said, I ask unanimous consent to waive Rule XXII for today's debate and amend it to require a simple majority." She said remaining standing.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue May 12, 2020 4:52 pm

Meelducan wrote:
Senate Floor

Michelle rose as soon as the debate began, making sure no other Senator could have the floor. She began speaking.

"Mr. President, it is extremely clear that people will feel many different ways on this bill, that's why we need to have honest and straightforward debate. With that said, I ask unanimous consent to waive Rule XXII for today's debate and amend it to require a simple majority." She said remaining standing.

"I do not provide my consent. We must allow the filibuster as a form of debate."
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue May 12, 2020 4:56 pm

Meelducan wrote:
Senate Floor

"Without objection, the motion is agreed to. The floor is open to motion and debate."

Senator Goldman (D-CT): "Motion to debate."
Please Watch
“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 4:57 pm

Meelducan wrote:
Senate Floor

Michelle rose as soon as the debate began, making sure no other Senator could have the floor. She began speaking.

"Mr. President, it is extremely clear that people will feel many different ways on this bill, that's why we need to have honest and straightforward debate. With that said, I ask unanimous consent to waive Rule XXII for today's debate and amend it to require a simple majority." She said remaining standing.

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Seconded."
Labour Party (UK), Progressive Democrat (US)
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Former Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)

Governor Tara Misra (R-KY)

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Postby Agarntrop » Tue May 12, 2020 4:58 pm

United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Motion to waive the right to filibuster for this day's sitting, subject to a simple majority vote."
Labour Party (UK), Progressive Democrat (US)
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Former Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)

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State Senator Simon Hawkins (D-IA)

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Postby Meelducan » Tue May 12, 2020 4:59 pm

Senate Floor

"The Gentlewoman from Wyoming still has the floor." Myles reminded the Chamber.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Tue May 12, 2020 5:00 pm

Agarntrop wrote:United States Senate
Senator Barry Anderson
[Republican - State of Missouri]

"Motion to waive the right to filibuster for this day's sitting, subject to a simple majority vote."

Sen. Goldman (D-CT): "I object."
Please Watch
“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.
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