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Azekopolaltion
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Postby Azekopolaltion » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:34 pm

Dentali wrote:
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Responding to a failure of professionalism and integrity with impetuous and false personal attacks against respectable members of the Democratic Party is what Republicans do, Senator @WestraNJ.


Liked and Retweeted by Senator Moore

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@Michigan Moore

While concerning and disappointing this scandal can't erase Senator Westra's lifetime of service and consistently fighting for those policy positions. However his attacks against those who a rightly criticizing him are unacceptable. You or your team messed up and got caught, take responsibility, apologize and move on. Don't attack people calling you out when you deserve to be called out.@WestraNJ.


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Tim Westra
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@MichiganMoore Thanks for the confidence in my views, but I would point out that my original statement in response to the AP story took full responsibility for the mishap. I believe it would be more courteous of some in my party to not make personal attacks against me after my apology. I do have righteous animosity for those who glossed over my statement, just to score political points as a plus to their presidential ambitions. That's all I was responding to.


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@LeviMurphy This is why the kids are not alright. I would personally like to apologize for my generation. :lol:


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@LeviMurphy might be the only person on the face of the earth dabbing right now...
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Postby Dentali » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:42 pm

Azekopolaltion wrote:
Dentali wrote:
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@Michigan Moore

While concerning and disappointing this scandal can't erase Senator Westra's lifetime of service and consistently fighting for those policy positions. However his attacks against those who a rightly criticizing him are unacceptable. You or your team messed up and got caught, take responsibility, apologize and move on. Don't attack people calling you out when you deserve to be called out.@WestraNJ.


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Tim Westra
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timwestra.com

@MichiganMoore Thanks for the confidence in my views, but I would point out that my original statement in response to the AP story took full responsibility for the mishap. I believe it would be more courteous of some in my party to not make personal attacks against me after my apology. I do have righteous animosity for those who glossed over my statement, just to score political points as a plus to their presidential ambitions. That's all I was responding to.



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You are not off the hook, and continuing to make baseless accusations against other democrats, lashing out just because they called you out is unacceptable. You apologized and get credit for that... but you should still be held accountable.@WestraNJ.
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Postby Azekopolaltion » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:46 pm

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@MichiganMoore Nothing I say is baseless. Anyway, I hope our party can leave this behind and focus on the issues facing working Americans. As Senator Moore suggested, I "took responsibility and apologized." Now let's "move on."
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Postby Dentali » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:06 pm

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@MichiganMoore Nothing I say is baseless. Anyway, I hope our party can leave this behind and focus on the issues facing working Americans. As Senator Moore suggested, I "took responsibility and apologized." Now let's "move on."



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For one your accusation that Davenport has flip-flopped on issues is baseless.
She has spent her life fighting for our shared Democratic values, and she hasn't had to plagiarize to do it.@WestraNJ.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:20 pm

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This whole 'trying to become the Presiential nominee of the Democratic Party by relentlessly attacking the Democratic Party' thing is really proving to be a fascinating innovation...

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Postby Azekopolaltion » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:31 pm

Dentali wrote:
Azekopolaltion wrote:
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@MichiganMoore Nothing I say is baseless. Anyway, I hope our party can leave this behind and focus on the issues facing working Americans. As Senator Moore suggested, I "took responsibility and apologized." Now let's "move on."



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For one your accusation that Davenport has flip-flopped on issues is baseless.
She has spent her life fighting for our shared Democratic values, and she hasn't had to plagiarize to do it.@WestraNJ.


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@MichiganMoore I'd much rather save it for the debates, but since you bring it up I must address her record.


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Iraq War: Davenport flip-flopped on her support for the war, while I was originally against it and maintained that position.
NAFTA and TPP: Davenport originally supported both trade deals. I have made protecting workers from bad trade deals my life's work, and was publicly against both deals. You can't be pro-worker and support those deals.
LGBTQ+ issues: She initially was against gay marriage. I have never been against gay marriage.
PATRIOT Act: She voted for mass surveillance, I voted against it.


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I really hope we can end this here, as Sen. Moore expressed initially.


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I will attack the Democratic Party if it means fighting for workers. I don't care if it hurts the establishment elite's feelings.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:32 pm

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@MichiganMoore Nothing I say is baseless. Anyway, I hope our party can leave this behind and focus on the issues facing working Americans. As Senator Moore suggested, I "took responsibility and apologized." Now let's "move on."


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Just because you, @TimWestra, apologized doesn't mean you have been held accountable by any standard for your campaign's plagiarism by any standard, especially when you refuse to be held accountable by hoping we just "move on". If you truly do have "tremendous respect" for Prarie let me tell you something as someone who also has tremendous respect for him as well as his 2016 Senate run. Our respect for him gives us no to right to, as Prarie himself says, steal the words straight from his mouth.

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Postby Puertollano » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:45 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:
Azekopolaltion wrote:
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timwestra.com

@MichiganMoore Nothing I say is baseless. Anyway, I hope our party can leave this behind and focus on the issues facing working Americans. As Senator Moore suggested, I "took responsibility and apologized." Now let's "move on."


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Just because you, @TimWestra, apologized doesn't mean you have been held accountable by any standard for your campaign's plagiarism by any standard, especially when you refuse to be held accountable by hoping we just "move on". If you truly do have "tremendous respect" for Prarie let me tell you something as someone who also has tremendous respect for him as well as his 2016 Senate run. Our respect for him gives us no to right to, as Prarie himself says, steal the words straight from his mouth.


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Postby Puertollano » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:47 pm

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As much as I do like to poke a bit of fun, the relentless establishment Dem attacks on my friend Tim are becoming old. He's apologized, there's not much more we can ask of him.

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Postby Meelducan » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:50 pm

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A shame that the current 2020 candidates are too busy attacking each other on Twitter rather than uniting to win the White House in 2020!
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Postby Alozia » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:45 pm

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I believe that this election should be about honesty, about transparency.

Not every idea we put forward on the campaign trail is one that we came up personally with. I did not invent universal healthcare and, if elected President, would more than likely enact a plan that has been put forward by someone else.

That is okay.


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What is not okay is plagiarizing another candidate's plan and talking points word-for-word, sometimes not even editing out the name of the author. (Not that if the change was made it would be okay).

Someone on the Westra campaign messed up. Whether it is Tim himself or someone else is irrelevant. He's the face of his own campaign and it is his responsibility to apologize.

Not attack, not throw mud at fellow Democrats. Apologize.


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I believe that a large portion of the recent criticisms of Senator Westra are not "establishment attacks" on him, but rather legitimate critique of him and his personal conduct.

By adopting aggressive rhetoric and attacking legislators with varying degrees of progressive records, Senator Westra is not helping himself and his movement.


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He is delegitimizing himself and his supporters while putting his ideological allies in a difficult situation.

I did not want to talk in length about the Senator and his recent internet endeavours, but his conduct has been shameful, juvenile and embarassing.

He should honestly apologize and show that he has learned from his mistakes.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:45 pm

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

Wow. For someone who was just wanting to "move on" earlier today, I was happy and planning on it. I was hoping you would have learned your lesson and moved on with yourself by now. However, it is clear that you are hell-bent on going head-deep into this, and are dragging me back into this with you. That is a mistake of your own making.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

For one, the only person bringing up *any* Presidential campaigns up until this point is you, and you alone. For another, I *haven't even decided* if I am running for President or not yet. And honestly? I'm alarmed your focus has been on *me* instead of, you know, the American people, the economy, climate change, healthcare, etc. No, you openly make it known that you've been preparing to debate *me* instead. I'm not even flattered. The very foundation of your campaign, the very REASON you are even campaigning, are clearly completely and utterly misguided.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

And if that isn't even bad enough, I think it's hilarious you infer that the author of the America's Future for All Act, the Constitutional Amendment to overturn Citizens United, and the Restoring Judicial Integrity Act isn't apparently "legitimately on the side of the people." Really? I wrote these damn bills, and I have even more coming. And yet you say this while climbing upon your high horse of self-righteousness? Wow. Since you are so hell-bent on bringing up records, and since you have nothing better to do right now, let's address that... shall we?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

I applaud you for your legislative record, truly, but... by the exact standard you want to hold against me, literally the only reason you were elected in the first place was strictly because of profiteering in both money and influence from Lord knows how many unions through your own company, the Win Company. Sure, you might've done good work, but doesn't it strike you as dripping hypocrisy by your own standards that you were made so well-off from it that you managed to run for office based off that very success? Using and exploiting unions to drive your own ambitions?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

I mean, I guess if I'm ever apparently this warmongering, gay-hating bigot, then I'm sure the unions would love to know they are dealing with a manipulative schemer. Oh, I'm sorry. Did that sound too mean? You did profit off them, for your own self-interest, and I really don't care if that fact hurts your feelings. You want to ride your past and your self-righteousness when it benefits you, pretend that my past invalidates me, but not ever when it invalidates you? Then that makes you, sir, a complete hypocrite.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

Yes, I did make the mistake in voting for the Iraq War. I've learned that mistake, and I am sorry for it. Yes, I did make the mistake in voting against the LGBT community in the past. I've learned that mistake, and I am sorry for it. Yes, I did make the mistake of voting for the PATRIOT Act. I've learned that mistake, and I am sorry for it. I don't know why you feel the need to bring this up, it's neither new nor shocking. Not like I hide or pretend it didn't happen. Anyone with access to Wikipedia can find this information out for themselves.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

And if nothing else, the very real flaws in my record show I have the capacity to change as I have. Leaders need that. And that I have the character to apologize for my own mistakes. Leaders need that. Westra? You haven't said 'I'm sorry' or 'I apologize' once at all through this entire debacle... over a quote on your website. Instead, you spin it around and try to make it about me. Really? How in the world can anyone trust you to be our Commander-in-Chief, to operate our economy, with the honesty and transparency required to do so in good faith if you can't even REALLY own up to a freakin' mistake over your website and seriously apologize for it?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

By the way, no. Saying "I own up to it" is not an apology, at all. That's only just an admittance that you were responsible for it. You literally followed that up with excuses like "Bernie inspires me," almost like you are trying to spin the whole thing. That's DEFINITELY not an apology, which... is really just all that we're asking you to give, Tim. That's it. This was never about "scoring political points," or whatever. It's just asking you to man up, grow a spine, and actually give a straight-faced apology. Without any excuses. Is that honestly too much to ask for, when you are doing this while campaigning for President of United States?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

If that answer is yes, as it seems like it may be, you have no business running the country. None. But, I want to hold out some hope that this political gimmick and gamesmanship you are wanting to play here will come to an end, right here and right now, and you just do the right thing. This whole episode could've been avoided if you did that from the start, Senator.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

But if there is one thing I will say I am appreciative of, I guess it's that I'm genuinely glad to have a place to stay in your head, and in your campaign, all for rent-free. Thanks, buddy. :)

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

Now grow up, grow a spine, apologize, and move on. I'm so done with this, I'm done talking about you, and I want to get back to working on matters pertaining to Congress. If this Presidential run of yours is getting to be so much you feel the need to go out of your way to continually criticize *me,* when I haven't even gotten into the race? Perhaps you should drop out and focus on bettering your Constituents too, but that's just my advice. Take from it what you will. Goodbye and goodnight.
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Postby Azekopolaltion » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:38 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

Wow. For someone who was just wanting to "move on" earlier today, I was happy and planning on it. I was hoping you would have learned your lesson and moved on with yourself by now. However, it is clear that you are hell-bent on going head-deep into this, and are dragging me back into this with you. That is a mistake of your own making.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

For one, the only person bringing up *any* Presidential campaigns up until this point is you, and you alone. For another, I *haven't even decided* if I am running for President or not yet. And honestly? I'm alarmed your focus has been on *me* instead of, you know, the American people, the economy, climate change, healthcare, etc. No, you openly make it known that you've been preparing to debate *me* instead. I'm not even flattered. The very foundation of your campaign, the very REASON you are even campaigning, are clearly completely and utterly misguided.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

And if that isn't even bad enough, I think it's hilarious you infer that the author of the America's Future for All Act, the Constitutional Amendment to overturn Citizens United, and the Restoring Judicial Integrity Act isn't apparently "legitimately on the side of the people." Really? I wrote these damn bills, and I have even more coming. And yet you say this while climbing upon your high horse of self-righteousness? Wow. Since you are so hell-bent on bringing up records, and since you have nothing better to do right now, let's address that... shall we?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

I applaud you for your legislative record, truly, but... by the exact standard you want to hold against me, literally the only reason you were elected in the first place was strictly because of profiteering in both money and influence from Lord knows how many unions through your own company, the Win Company. Sure, you might've done good work, but doesn't it strike you as dripping hypocrisy by your own standards that you were made so well-off from it that you managed to run for office based off that very success? Using and exploiting unions to drive your own ambitions?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

I mean, I guess if I'm ever apparently this warmongering, gay-hating bigot, then I'm sure the unions would love to know they are dealing with a manipulative schemer. Oh, I'm sorry. Did that sound too mean? You did profit off them, for your own self-interest, and I really don't care if that fact hurts your feelings. You want to ride your past and your self-righteousness when it benefits you, pretend that my past invalidates me, but not ever when it invalidates you? Then that makes you, sir, a complete hypocrite.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

Yes, I did make the mistake in voting for the Iraq War. I've learned that mistake, and I am sorry for it. Yes, I did make the mistake in voting against the LGBT community in the past. I've learned that mistake, and I am sorry for it. Yes, I did make the mistake of voting for the PATRIOT Act. I've learned that mistake, and I am sorry for it. I don't know why you feel the need to bring this up, it's neither new nor shocking. Not like I hide or pretend it didn't happen. Anyone with access to Wikipedia can find this information out for themselves.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

And if nothing else, the very real flaws in my record show I have the capacity to change as I have. Leaders need that. And that I have the character to apologize for my own mistakes. Leaders need that. Westra? You haven't said 'I'm sorry' or 'I apologize' once at all through this entire debacle... over a quote on your website. Instead, you spin it around and try to make it about me. Really? How in the world can anyone trust you to be our Commander-in-Chief, to operate our economy, with the honesty and transparency required to do so in good faith if you can't even REALLY own up to a freakin' mistake over your website and seriously apologize for it?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

By the way, no. Saying "I own up to it" is not an apology, at all. That's only just an admittance that you were responsible for it. You literally followed that up with excuses like "Bernie inspires me," almost like you are trying to spin the whole thing. That's DEFINITELY not an apology, which... is really just all that we're asking you to give, Tim. That's it. This was never about "scoring political points," or whatever. It's just asking you to man up, grow a spine, and actually give a straight-faced apology. Without any excuses. Is that honestly too much to ask for, when you are doing this while campaigning for President of United States?

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

If that answer is yes, as it seems like it may be, you have no business running the country. None. But, I want to hold out some hope that this political gimmick and gamesmanship you are wanting to play here will come to an end, right here and right now, and you just do the right thing. This whole episode could've been avoided if you did that from the start, Senator.

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

But if there is one thing I will say I am appreciative of, I guess it's that I'm genuinely glad to have a place to stay in your head, and in your campaign, all for rent-free. Thanks, buddy. :)

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Representative Emily S. Davenport
@EmilyDavenport

Now grow up, grow a spine, apologize, and move on. I'm so done with this, I'm done talking about you, and I want to get back to working on matters pertaining to Congress. If this Presidential run of yours is getting to be so much you feel the need to go out of your way to continually criticize *me,* when I haven't even gotten into the race? Perhaps you should drop out and focus on bettering your Constituents too, but that's just my advice. Take from it what you will. Goodbye and goodnight.


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Tim Westra
@WestraNJ
timwestra.com

I simply responded to initial attacks from @EmilyDavenport - I did not start this. I think it's pretty egotistical for you to believe that all I'm thinking about is you. I've not played the attack game this entire campaign, preferring to stick to the issues. I do not "continually criticize" you; I could care less. Maybe the establishment thinks it's all about them, but this campaign is really about lifting the voices of working people.


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Tim Westra
@WestraNJ
timwestra.com

You raised my comms company, with an utterly dishonest take that it exploited unions. If anything, it gave unions a fighting chance at getting their voice heard in a Congress stacked with corporate lobbyists ready to shut them up. The New Jersey unions are my strongest allies and continue to be. Without them, I would not be here. I am only grateful for them.


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Tim Westra
@WestraNJ
timwestra.com

What Rep. Davenport is saying is that she doesn't care for companies fighting for unions, like the one I ran. She is smearing me, plain and simple, because my record is 100% pro-worker. Even my pre-Congressional career. There's nothing to apologize for there.


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Tim Westra
@WestraNJ
timwestra.com

"Work to better my Constituents?" That is the work of my lifetime. I helped write Obamacare, I founded the Blue Collar Caucus, I tried to further regulate Wall Street with a new Glass Steagall, which paved the way for [not-Dodd-Frank]. You have just the thousands of workers who have fought to keep me in the political arena. Do you have no shame, spreading smears like that?


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Tim Westra
@WestraNJ
timwestra.com

Now I want to help the workers of my country, not just my state. And I will do that by staying in the presidential race, with the values I have held since day one. Values I don't need to apologize for.


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Tim Westra
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timwestra.com

The only gimmicks and gamesmanship here are coming from Emily, who hopes to take a few shots at our campaign that has seen some serious momentum in the past few weeks. This unfortunate incident, which I have expressed I am responsible for, did not concern Rep. Davenport, and was not worth her precious time that she claims she dedicates to constituents.


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Tim Westra
@WestraNJ
timwestra.com

Now, enough with the twitter warfare. I'l see you in the race. Now, can we please get back to talking about a Federal Jobs Guarantee?


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As much as I do like to poke a bit of fun, the relentless establishment Dem attacks on my friend Tim are becoming old. He's apologized, there's not much more we can ask of him.

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Thank you. My good friend Levi is right. The real progressives prefer to stick to the issues and fight for the workers, not engage in relentless squabbles over mistakes which have been dealt with.
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Postby The Democratic Marxists » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:41 pm

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The planet is burning and 2020 contenders are arguing about...copy-paste? C'mon, guys, he apologized. This is stupid. Move on.#ForPetesSakeSomeoneTalkAboutClimate
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:57 pm

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Already there. Want to collab on a climate bill 2.0? @SenWinthrop @WestraNJ
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President Wolf was livid. An acting cabinet member was disobeying his orders, and because of it, her original mess was snowballing. Now there was a Congressional investigation on his case. He usually maintained a strategy of doubling down, never giving an inch, etc. In this instance, however, he had to make a clean break. His astute White House Counsel pointed out that the last thing he wanted was an impeachment for abuse of powers to waste all of his political capital in his last year as President.

So, he dictated to his Chief of Staff, who drafted a handwritten note and delivered it to Tara Misra’s personally office. It read as follows.

Dear Acting Secretary Misra,

Your services as Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security are no longer required. You will be expected to vacate the premises immediately, and your top secret security clearance will be revoked effective at the end of the week.

Signed,
[signature]
President Arnold J. Wolf


President Wolf kept it short and sweet. He had bigger fish to fry. When that was over and done with turned his attention to the Congressional investigation. He and his staff decided to write a blanket memorandum on the subject, to address both the public, the media, and members of congress.

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The Office of the President of the United States



A Public Memorandum


Recently, concerns over improper conduct by then Acting Secretary of State Tara Misra have been raised by both the White House and the United States Congress. There is evidence to suggest that the Terror Threat Advisory put into place by the Acting Secretary was done incorrectly or under false pretenses. Accordingly, the White House will be taking a few steps.

I. Former Acting Secretary Misra has been terminated from service, to be replaced by a new nominee for the position.

II. The White House and President Wolf reaffirm that the Terror Threat Advisory was put into place by the Acting Secretary in a unilateral manner, without first consulting the President or other Cabinet members. Therefore, no one but the Acting Secretary had any knowledge regarding the situation or any reasons for it to have been put into place.

III. The White House and President Wolf hereby announce their intention to participate in and assist with any investigation into misconduct by the former Acting Secretary.

IV. The White House and President Wolf condemn any potential violation of the Hatch Act by the former Acting Secretary.

Signed,
[Signature]
President Arnold J. Wolf


After the memorandum was done, the President went back about his business. The next item on the agenda was a guest who Wolf enjoyed seeing, Minority Leader Volker.

A staffer showed the congressman into the Oval Office, and the President stood to greet him and shake his hand.
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Linda Macarro: Good evening, thank you all for joining us tonight. Now, in the news today one of the main stories has been the firing of Acting Secretary Tara Misra. Reasons given for this firing by the President are that Ms. Misra imposed a terror threat advisory without his knowledge and then proceeded to write a letter to all members of Congress that violated the Hatch Act. Ms. Misra joins us now on this program. Good evening, Ms. Misra.

Tara Misra: Good evening, Linda.

Macarro: You're a straight talker. You were sacked, weren't you?

Misra: Well, I left the administration and I aplologise for what happened. My actions caused difficulty for the President, and I acknowledge that.

Macarro: Let's get it out of the way, as you haven't talked about it since, but you were giving out unauthorised and unlawful statements including a terror threat advisory. It looked sneaky, it looked like a Cabinet Secretary was going behind the back of her boss, and exercising a bit of power play. Giving out letters, and public bulletins, and so on, why were you doing this?

Misra: Well, I disagree with that, and I take the view that as the head of a Department I had the authority to take such measures. When you are in such an important position, I think it's remiss if you don't actually go and take neccessary measures as part of your responsibility after a terror attack, and that's what I did and there was no malice intended at all.

Macarro: But shouldn't you tell your boss when you're giving out terror threat advisories for the first time in history?

Misra: Well, in heinsight, of course Linda, absolutely. In heinsight that's what I should've done and that's why I left the administration because obviously it caused clear difficulty and I aplologise for that.

Macarro: But I would've thought it wasn't about heinsight. If you're going to give out a terror threat advisory and send out potentially illegal letters to every single member of Congress, surely foresight should tell you that you should tell your own boss, the President of the USA?

Misra: Well, I think it's fair to say that I accepted that and I apologise and there was no malice intended whatsoever at the time. I also think it's worth noting that I took responsibility and I left the administration.

Macarro: So why did you give out the terror threat advisory and these letters?

Misra: Well let's not forget that we'd just had an abhorrent terror attack thay had killed our own Ambassador to Israel and I thought they were appropriate measures to take.

Macarro: But why not tell your own boss?

Misra: I had the opportunity to take such measures and to be fair, as I said, there had just been an abhorrent terror attack and I felt I needed to use my own resolve to respond to it quickly. I would've thought, for your viewers in particular, it would be a good thing that politicians actually do things quickly and without bureaucracy.

Macarro: I don't disagree with that, but if I was your boss, and I'd discovered that you'd been sneaking off and taking measures, very important measures like imposing a terror threat advisory for the first time in history, and hadn't thought to mention it to me, wouldn't you know that I'd be incandescent?

Misra: Well look, we agree that that has happened and that that is the past now and I'm moving on from that. I've been clear that I've apologised for that but there was no malice intended and I've been very clear with both the general public and the President about that too.

Macarro: Okay, the President was angry and you were fired from the cabinet but you were a very well known pro-Israel figure in it before that. As you saw things progress when you were Acting Secretary for Homeland Security, what is your view of where we are now in terms of the President's Israel-Palestine related policies that he laid out in his SOTU address?

Misra: Well, I think it's pretty clear. We are now co-ordinating an important response to the assassination of Ambassador Friedman, a really important response. We saw in the SOTU address the President detail that response that we can now implement. Implementing the response is really important for the safety of our country, for counter-terrorism, and for the security of our diplomatic staff at the embassy in Jerusalem. So this is a really important time to implement the response, and so right now we have the opportunity to toughen up our security, I believe that is absolutely necessary. I've done TV interviews before and said that.

Macarro: Okay, that's all we have time for. Thank you for joining us, Ms. Misra.

Misra: It was a pleasure to be here.
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Postby Greater Arab State » Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:52 pm

Sanabel wrote:Oval Office, White House
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President Wolf was livid. An acting cabinet member was disobeying his orders, and because of it, her original mess was snowballing. Now there was a Congressional investigation on his case. He usually maintained a strategy of doubling down, never giving an inch, etc. In this instance, however, he had to make a clean break. His astute White House Counsel pointed out that the last thing he wanted was an impeachment for abuse of powers to waste all of his political capital in his last year as President.

So, he dictated to his Chief of Staff, who drafted a handwritten note and delivered it to Tara Misra’s personally office. It read as follows.

Dear Acting Secretary Misra,

Your services as Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security are no longer required. You will be expected to vacate the premises immediately, and your top secret security clearance will be revoked effective at the end of the week.

Signed,
[signature]
President Arnold J. Wolf


President Wolf kept it short and sweet. He had bigger fish to fry. When that was over and done with turned his attention to the Congressional investigation. He and his staff decided to write a blanket memorandum on the subject, to address both the public, the media, and members of congress.

(Image)
The Office of the President of the United States



A Public Memorandum


Recently, concerns over improper conduct by then Acting Secretary of State Tara Misra have been raised by both the White House and the United States Congress. There is evidence to suggest that the Terror Threat Advisory put into place by the Acting Secretary was done incorrectly or under false pretenses. Accordingly, the White House will be taking a few steps.

I. Former Acting Secretary Misra has been terminated from service, to be replaced by a new nominee for the position.

II. The White House and President Wolf reaffirm that the Terror Threat Advisory was put into place by the Acting Secretary in a unilateral manner, without first consulting the President or other Cabinet members. Therefore, no one but the Acting Secretary had any knowledge regarding the situation or any reasons for it to have been put into place.

III. The White House and President Wolf hereby announce their intention to participate in and assist with any investigation into misconduct by the former Acting Secretary.

IV. The White House and President Wolf condemn any potential violation of the Hatch Act by the former Acting Secretary.

Signed,
[Signature]
President Arnold J. Wolf


After the memorandum was done, the President went back about his business. The next item on the agenda was a guest who Wolf enjoyed seeing, Minority Leader Volker.

A staffer showed the congressman into the Oval Office, and the President stood to greet him and shake his hand.


The Oval Office, White House


House Minority Leader Volker entered the Oval Office before shaking the Presidents hand.

"Good afternoon, Mr President. My condolences for your diagnosis."
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Postby Azekopolaltion » Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:59 pm

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Already there. Want to collab on a climate bill 2.0? @SenWinthrop @WestraNJ


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After sending out that tweet, Tim's team released an official statement to the press and through all of his official social media accounts.

Official Statement from Tim Westra's 2020 Presidential Campaign


Senator Westra has expressed his regrets for the recent mishap on a few lines of certain policy proposals released by his campaign. It was plagiarism, plain and simple. While these are views and policy visions that the Senator can say without exaggeration that he has espoused for his entire career, the words in specific sections were directly lifted from Bernard Prarie's campaign for US Senate. This was done without the knowledge of Senator Westra, but he takes full responsibility for not personally ensuring that the work was conducted by his policy team.

Senator Westra apologizes profusely for this explicit lack in professionalism. While there is no excuse for this, running a presidential campaign is no easy task, requiring the attentions of the candidate on dozens of different factors. The Westra campaign is running on funds provided by grassroots donors, not PACs or lobbyists, and so naturally we have kept our campaign staff quite small. The Senator will dedicate to committing more resources towards developing accountability processes within the policy team to ensure that no member of his staff commits an act of plagiarism again.

The Senator previously announced the departure of two junior staffers who were responsible for contributing to the policy drafting process. Today, the Senator also accepted the resignation of his Policy Director, Jeremiah Ogundimu.

He hopes that this example of challenges in running a campaign can be forgiven by the public. Plagiarism is never acceptable, and the Senator acknowledges that he failed in his job to look over the work of his staffers. He promises that he will continue to release detailed policy proposals, as he has currently been doing, but now he will commit to writing them out word-for-word by himself, until new hires can be made.


Losing his Policy Director was quite a tough decision for Tim; Jeremiah was one of the most experienced progressive policymakers in Washington. He was by far the best hire Tim could have ever made - he was personally surprised when Jeremiah left Senator Winthrop's office to work for him. Tim would have never imagined that such an experienced policy advisor could be so careless, so lazy, to allow underlings to plagiarize words from another person. A replacement would be difficult to find, but he felt it would be best for his campaign to hold people accountable. Even the folks at the top of his staff.

Now he needed something big to restore people's confidence in his campaign. Not that he felt this was a massive hit or something he'd never recover from - but, he was expecting a small slump in some polls. Other candidates were making mistakes too - folks like Levi were even embracing positions from BDS - so he was trying not to have a cynical outlook and to stay positive.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:34 pm

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“Thank you for your condolences. I am still President though- How are you Representative? I am still President. What business do you have for me?”

He gestured for the man to sit.
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Postby Greater Arab State » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:48 pm

Sanabel wrote: The Oval Office, White House

“Thank you for your condolences. I am still President though- How are you Representative? I am still President. What business do you have for me?”

He gestured for the man to sit.

The Oval Office, White House


Volker sat down before beginning to speak.

"I am well, Mr President. Moving on, I'm sure your aware Mr President since the announcement there has been a large amount of speculation regarding the primary for the Republican Presidential nomination. I am aware of some of the candidates, one of whom had already announced and I feel that it would be best for me to inform you Mr President, in order for you to maintain awareness."
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