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Postby Greater Arab State » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:00 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Yeah, not a big fan with the current Lib Dems, even though I'm a member of their sister party.

Hoping for a hung/tory-coaliton parliament.

I hope for a Labour landslide, but that's not happening either. A Labour minority/Labour-SNP coalition would be nice though.


I'm hoping that my party remains in government, I'm torn however, about the majority as I'd like a fairly large majority for ease of governance but I'd also be inclined towards a slightly narrow majority, forcing Johnson to continue to involve the ERG in government.
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Postby Meelducan » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:09 pm

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Meelducan wrote:I also agree with most of his policies, but I'm a left-leaning brexiteer and with how unclear Labour has been with their whole Brexit stuff, I'm supporting Boris.

Go with Farage instead tbh

Farage only stands for one issue, the only reason why I would never support him.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:31 pm

Meelducan wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Go with Farage instead tbh

Farage only stands for one issue, the only reason why I would never support him.

Honestly, you should check up on your local Labour candidate. If they're pro-Brexit, then vote for them. Voting against Brexiteer Labour MPs for Remainer Conservative MPs is undermining your desired political ideology on two fronts.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:48 pm

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Agarntrop wrote:What's wrong with Jezza? If he fucks up the election (let's face it he probably will) he should go but I don't understand people's vehement hatred for him. I wouldn't consider myself on the radical left but I have to say I agree with 80-90% of his policies.

I also agree with most of his policies, but I'm a left-leaning brexiteer and with how unclear Labour has been with their whole Brexit stuff, I'm supporting Boris.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:58 pm

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Meelducan wrote:I also agree with most of his policies, but I'm a left-leaning brexiteer and with how unclear Labour has been with their whole Brexit stuff, I'm supporting Boris.

bootlicker

Says the Blairite
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Postby Puertollano » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:04 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Also McDonnell's approval rating is only -12% according to YouGov, much better than Corbyn and Boris.


Wait till the Murdoch press goes after him, that's what happened with Corbyn.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:05 pm

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Agarntrop wrote:bootlicker

Says the Blairite

IM NOT A FUCKING BLAIRITE I HATE THAT MAN
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:07 pm

Puertollano wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Also McDonnell's approval rating is only -12% according to YouGov, much better than Corbyn and Boris.


Wait till the Murdoch press goes after him, that's what happened with Corbyn.

I have a deep personal hatred of Murdoch.
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Postby Puertollano » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:08 pm

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Puertollano wrote:
Wait till the Murdoch press goes after him, that's what happened with Corbyn.

I have a deep personal hatred of Murdoch.


As an Australian, I apologise that he exists.
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Postby Puertollano » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:12 pm

Meelducan wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:What's wrong with Jezza? If he fucks up the election (let's face it he probably will) he should go but I don't understand people's vehement hatred for him. I wouldn't consider myself on the radical left but I have to say I agree with 80-90% of his policies.

I also agree with most of his policies, but I'm a left-leaning brexiteer and with how unclear Labour has been with their whole Brexit stuff, I'm supporting Boris.


I don't like to tell people who to vote for, but if you are a left-leaning Brexiteer, Corbyn is the only person to deliver a pro-worker Brexit with fair trade deals.
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Postby Bruke » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:13 pm

Can everyone just relax and listen to some Boriswave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cre0in5n-1E&t=389s

Seriously though, I'd like to know what you all think of this, because to me it's baffling. :blink:
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:25 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Says the Blairite

IM NOT A FUCKING BLAIRITE I HATE THAT MAN

>Proud Keynesian
>Social Democrat
>Still not a Blairite

Then again, I'm a syndicalist so everyone looks like a Blairite from this far left.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:39 pm

Bruke wrote:Can everyone just relax and listen to some Boriswave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cre0in5n-1E&t=389s

Seriously though, I'd like to know what you all think of this, because to me it's baffling. :blink:

its cringe
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:40 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:IM NOT A FUCKING BLAIRITE I HATE THAT MAN

>Proud Keynesian
>Social Democrat
>Still not a Blairite

Then again, I'm a syndicalist so everyone looks like a Blairite from this far left.

lol Blair isnt Keynesian
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:53 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:>Proud Keynesian
>Social Democrat
>Still not a Blairite

Then again, I'm a syndicalist so everyone looks like a Blairite from this far left.

lol Blair isnt Keynesian

YOU ACTUALLY EDITED YOUR SIGNATURE LOL
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:05 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:lol Blair isnt Keynesian

YOU ACTUALLY EDITED YOUR SIGNATURE LOL

yes to make a point to commies that I'm not a Blairite
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:07 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:YOU ACTUALLY EDITED YOUR SIGNATURE LOL

yes to make a point to commies that I'm not a Blairite

But you would still vote Labour during the Blairite years? Greens exist for a reason, or the SNP if you're in Scotland.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:08 pm

At a risk of not suffering the slings and arrows of outrage from what is already a tense conversation, I think I'll keep my present political perspectives to myself. >_<
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:14 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:yes to make a point to commies that I'm not a Blairite

But you would still vote Labour during the Blairite years? Greens exist for a reason, or the SNP if you're in Scotland.

not after the Iraq war. plus that factbook was made when I self-identified as a centrist and was probably somewhat of a blairite
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:15 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:But you would still vote Labour during the Blairite years? Greens exist for a reason, or the SNP if you're in Scotland.

not after the Iraq war. plus that factbook was made when I self-identified as a centrist and was probably somewhat of a blairite

Very well. The factbook made me think Blairite, particularly the ideology and elections part.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:16 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:not after the Iraq war. plus that factbook was made when I self-identified as a centrist and was probably somewhat of a blairite

Very well. The factbook made me think Blairite, particularly the ideology and elections part.

before you say 'update it' I cba.
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Postby Meelducan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:42 am

Puertollano wrote:
Meelducan wrote:I also agree with most of his policies, but I'm a left-leaning brexiteer and with how unclear Labour has been with their whole Brexit stuff, I'm supporting Boris.


I don't like to tell people who to vote for, but if you are a left-leaning Brexiteer, Corbyn is the only person to deliver a pro-worker Brexit with fair trade deals.

Labour don’t run candidates in my area so unfortunately that has to be a PHAT no
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:36 am

Meelducan wrote:
Puertollano wrote:
I don't like to tell people who to vote for, but if you are a left-leaning Brexiteer, Corbyn is the only person to deliver a pro-worker Brexit with fair trade deals.

Labour don’t run candidates in my area so unfortunately that has to be a PHAT no

You from Northern Ireland? SDLP are basically the Labour of Northern Ireland.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:19 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Labour don’t run candidates in my area so unfortunately that has to be a PHAT no

You from Northern Ireland? SDLP are basically the Labour of Northern Ireland.

tories are also hopeless in Northern Ireland, though the UUP are basically the same thing.
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Postby Meelducan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:36 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Labour don’t run candidates in my area so unfortunately that has to be a PHAT no

You from Northern Ireland? SDLP are basically the Labour of Northern Ireland.

We also have the Cross-Community Labour Alternative, but they’re useless.

SDLP are a nationalist party, something I don’t agree with, so I think I might just stick with The Alliance Party.
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