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Postby Dentali » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:47 am

Sanabel wrote:I think Wolf should speak last if he is keynote, not Vohoffsky

Can Dunn be on the panel on trade and the one on faith with her husband?



Wolf isnt the keynote, i know its odd. But after studying the last few CPAC schedules the President typically isnt the final speaker or the keynote. IDK why


Yes im saying 2 panels per person
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:51 am

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Sanabel wrote:I think Wolf should speak last if he is keynote, not Vohoffsky

Can Dunn be on the panel on trade and the one on faith with her husband?



Wolf isnt the keynote, i know its odd. But after studying the last few CPAC schedules the President typically isnt the final speaker or the keynote. IDK why


Yes im saying 2 panels per person

That’s odd. Maybe put him earlier then?
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Postby Dentali » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:53 am

Sanabel wrote:
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Wolf isnt the keynote, i know its odd. But after studying the last few CPAC schedules the President typically isnt the final speaker or the keynote. IDK why


Yes im saying 2 panels per person

That’s odd. Maybe put him earlier then?



Its the IRL President Trump timeslot from 2019
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Sanabel wrote:That’s odd. Maybe put him earlier then?



Its the IRL President Trump timeslot from 2019

Fair enough, you know more than I do
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Postby Dentali » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:57 am

Sanabel wrote:
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Its the IRL President Trump timeslot from 2019

Fair enough, you know more than I do



it hoenstly probably also had to do with Trumps schedule
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:34 am

Also (I'm writing a post on the accident right now which will make a good enough backstory for it) Vohoffsky will have a minor scar on his left leg and on his right cheek. He will have been in the accident, but sustained only minor injuries. Is this acceptable?
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Postby Greater Arab State » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:15 pm

Sanabel wrote:Has the meeting between Volker and Wolf finished?

I thought that as the majority of what Volker had planned to say has been said, it would probably be best if we start wrapping it up.
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:18 pm

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Sanabel wrote:Has the meeting between Volker and Wolf finished?

I thought that as the majority of what Volker had planned to say has been said, it would probably be best if we start wrapping it up.

Excellent, I’ll end it in my next post.
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NS Nation Name: Agarntrop
Character Name: John Atang
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 57
Character Height: 6' 1''
Character Weight: 197 lbs
Character Position/Role/Job: Member of the United States House Education Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Investment (2007-), Member of the United States House Education Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Human Services (2001-2007), Member of the United States House Committee on Education and Labor (2001-), Member of the United States House of Representatives for New York's 8th Congressional District (2001-), Member of the New York State Assembly for the 46th State Assembly district (1999-2001).
Appearance:
Character State of Origin: New York
Character State of Residence: New York
Character Party Affiliation: Democratic
Main Strengths: Pragmatic, Passionate, Engaging, Persuasive
Main Weaknesses: Gaffe-prone, Carefree, Speaks before he thinks
Biography:
Atang was born on 17 June 1962 in the Brooklyn borough of New York City, to Liberian parents John and Naomi Atang. He and his six siblings were raised solely by his mother, after his father left the family when Atang was 8 years old. Atang speaks publicly about the importance of fathers and the need to support them in seeking to be active in the lives of their children. He has written on the issue.

Atang grew up in Brooklyn. He studied law at the University of New York, obtaining a bachelor's degree. Atang went on to study at Harvard University when he won a place to study for a Master of Laws degree at Harvard Law School, graduating in 1987. He was admitted to the bar in 1994 and practised as a public defender.
House of Representatives
In 1998 he was elected as a Democrat to the New York State Assembly for the 46th district. During the 2000 congressional election campaign Atang won the primaries to become the Democratic candidate for New York's 8th Congressional District in the US House of Representatives. He was elected to the seat on November 7, 2000.

At the beggining of the 107th Congress in 2001, he was placed on the Committee on Education and Labor and the Education Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Human Services. He voted in favour of authorisation for the United States to invade Iraq in 2003. After the 2006 midterm election Atang was moved from the Education Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Human Services to the Education Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Investment.

During the 2008 Democratic primaries, Atang originally supported [not John Edwards], saying that he felt it was important to have a candidate who focused on poverty, an issue he claimed "plauges millions of Americans that most politicians seem to ignore", but nonetheless declared his support for Rashid Baharia after [not Edwards] withdrew from the race. After the election of Baharia, Atang pledged his full support but turned down a post in the executive branch, asserting a need to remain a member of the House of Representatives in order to speak on a wide range of issues that had arose in his district due to the "money that had been slashed from public services under the Burke Administration".

In 2011 there were suggestions that Atang might stand for election as Mayor of New York in 2013. Atang pledged his support to [not-Bill de Blasio]'s bid to become the Democratic mayoral nominee, declaring him "New York's Mayor in waiting". Atang became [not-Blasio]'s nomination campaign chair. In 2015, Atang announced that he was considering entering the race to become Mayor of New York in the 2017 election.

Atang supported [not-Bernie Sanders] to be Democratic nominee during the 2016 Presidential Election, but later endorsed Diane Clifford after she won the primaries.

New York mayoral candidate
On 4 September 2015, Atang announced his intention to seek the Democratic nomination for the 2017 mayoral election. In the New York Democratic Party's primaries, he recieved 4.2% overall, coming 2nd place behind the incumbent [not Blasio].
Atang has commented on the USA's history of slavery and on many other subjects.

Crime
Atang has over the years publicly attributed blame for certain crimes to various specific causes and persons. He has also talked about black and ethnic minority peoples, especially those who are younger, their relation with crime and how they are treated by the criminal justice system.

On 6 May 2015, in an article published in The New York Times, Atang attributed part of the cause for Baltimore's riots of a few days earlier to destructive "cultures" that had emerged under the prevailing policies. He also stated that states imposing legislation that restricted the use of corporal punishment in public schools was partly to blame for current youth culture, that had contributed to the riots.

Atang has blamed President Wolf and the Attorney General for failing to take responsibility over fatal shootings in NYC; he also blames inequality, high youth unemployment among black males, and New York City Council cutting youth services and outreach programmes.

Atang has stated that the criminal justice system deals with "disproportionate numbers" of young people from black and ethnic minority communities: despite saying that although decisions to charge were "broadly proportionate", he has asserted that black and ethnic minority people still face and perceive bias. Atang said that young black people are nine times more likely to be incarcerated than "comparable" white people, and proposed a number of measures including a system of "deferred prosecution" for young first time offenders to reduce incarcerations. Atang has claimed that black and ethnic minority people offend "at the same rates" as comparable white people "when taking age and socioeconomic status into account"; they were more likely to be stopped and searched, if charged more likely to be convicted, more likely to be sent to prison and less likely to get support in prison.

Other Views
On 7 August 2009, Atang gave a speech in the House of Representatives in favour of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act, critically comparing the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy to the "separate but equal" legal doctrine which justified Jim Crow laws in the 20th-century.

He has written about what he believes to be the shortcomings of the housing market.

Atang is a staunch opponent of President Wolf. He notably refused to appear at his inauguration in January 2017 and has described him as a "national embarrassment."

He has spoken out against alleged antisemitism within the Democratic Party and attended a rally protesting against it. Atang stated that antisemitism has "come back because extremism has come back" and is damaging support for Democrats among America's Jewish community.
Atang married the artist Erica Leigh in 1995; the couple have three sons and a daughter.

In November 2015, he published a book, Out of the Ashes: America After the Murder of Freddie Gray, about the April 2015 police shooting of Freddie Gray.

Atang is a Methodist Christian. He is also a New York Giants fan.

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1. Why so long between graduation from Harvard and being admitted to the bar?
2. What do his parents do that enabled him to go to Harvard? Did he get a substantial scholarship?
3. Why would he be considered for a cabinet post? What distinguished his record? What accomplishments or expertise did he have?
4. Why would run for mayor against De Blasio? Especially since he supported him in 2013?
5. Need a lot more in terms of political views, you can say "Textbook progressive except for..." or whatever

1. I can change that.
2. I can get rid of the Harvard part.
3. He had 9 years experience as a lawmaker including 7 years on committees.
4. vanity project
5. Don't see those as that necessary, although I can begrudgingly add them in if you want. I was going to have him as someone who's views were not consistent with either camp.
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Postby Dentali » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:31 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Dentali wrote:

1. Why so long between graduation from Harvard and being admitted to the bar?
2. What do his parents do that enabled him to go to Harvard? Did he get a substantial scholarship?
3. Why would he be considered for a cabinet post? What distinguished his record? What accomplishments or expertise did he have?
4. Why would run for mayor against De Blasio? Especially since he supported him in 2013?
5. Need a lot more in terms of political views, you can say "Textbook progressive except for..." or whatever

1. I can change that.
2. I can get rid of the Harvard part.
3. He had 9 years experience as a lawmaker including 7 years on committees.
4. vanity project
5. Don't see those as that necessary, although I can begrudgingly add them in if you want. I was going to have him as someone who's views were anot consistent with either camp.



Don’t need to get rid of Harvard just justify it a bit
Yea but a lot of people have that much experience or more, why is he unique
If it’s a vanity project why not run in 13? What changed that he turned on Bill
It’s even more necessary to lay out his politics if he doesn’t fit in either camp
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:32 pm

Would it be a campaign finance violation for Prendergast to drop a fat check for Westra's charity thingy?
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Postby Dentali » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:56 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Would it be a campaign finance violation for Prendergast to drop a fat check for Westra's charity thingy?



Umm... is the fundraiser separate from the campaign?
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:00 pm

Dentali wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Would it be a campaign finance violation for Prendergast to drop a fat check for Westra's charity thingy?



Umm... is the fundraiser separate from the campaign?


Well, I'm not sure, exactly. I'd like to make a donation to the charities involved and perhaps make a statement, but Prendergast obviously wouldn't go out of his way to do anything illegal straight up, so I'm really dependent on your legal interpretation here.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:06 pm

Dentali wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Would it be a campaign finance violation for Prendergast to drop a fat check for Westra's charity thingy?



Umm... is the fundraiser separate from the campaign?

Speaking of legal interpretation, would it be legal for Vohoffsky to use his inheritance, which is specifically marked for "a non-profit foundation" to create a political lobbying foundation. It would technically be non-profit, but I just wanted to check with you to prevent Vohoffsky being arrested for embezzling, corruption or really anything like that.
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Postby Azekopolaltion » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:13 pm

Dentali wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Would it be a campaign finance violation for Prendergast to drop a fat check for Westra's charity thingy?



Umm... is the fundraiser separate from the campaign?


It is not linked to the campaign, if he wants to make a donation it would go straight to the charities involved in the event. He could say the donation was part of the Day of Service, but it won't be going through Westra's campaign. However, the small donations we're getting at the event will be donated via Westra 2020.
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Postby Dentali » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:04 pm

Azekopolaltion wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Umm... is the fundraiser separate from the campaign?


It is not linked to the campaign, if he wants to make a donation it would go straight to the charities involved in the event. He could say the donation was part of the Day of Service, but it won't be going through Westra's campaign. However, the small donations we're getting at the event will be donated via Westra 2020.



Yea that’s questionable, the small donation bit
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:05 pm

Dentali wrote:
Azekopolaltion wrote:
It is not linked to the campaign, if he wants to make a donation it would go straight to the charities involved in the event. He could say the donation was part of the Day of Service, but it won't be going through Westra's campaign. However, the small donations we're getting at the event will be donated via Westra 2020.



Yea that’s questionable, the small donation bit


So I get that small donations going through Westra's campaign might be questionable, but what about the process of Prendergast, as a private citizen, making a direct donation to the charities concerned, without touching his political organs, but then his political organs/himself making a statement about said donation?
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Postby Meelducan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:14 am

Ok WCC, you can not kill someone off and have your character inherit $25 Million. If you want to have that money then fundraise for it.

Azek, Westra would not have ‘a couple thousand’ volunteers. The campaign hasn’t been going on for that long so unless he’s shipping the volunteers from across the USA to his rally, it is highly unlikely he’d have that many people there.
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Postby Dentali » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:40 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Yea that’s questionable, the small donation bit


So I get that small donations going through Westra's campaign might be questionable, but what about the process of Prendergast, as a private citizen, making a direct donation to the charities concerned, without touching his political organs, but then his political organs/himself making a statement about said donation?



Thats fine but it would probably be seen as less that charitable if he is doing it for blatant political gain.
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Meelducan wrote:Ok WCC, you can not kill someone off and have your character inherit $25 Million. If you want to have that money then fundraise for it.

Azek, Westra would not have ‘a couple thousand’ volunteers. The campaign hasn’t been going on for that long so unless he’s shipping the volunteers from across the USA to his rally, it is highly unlikely he’d have that many people there.



Agreed on both

WCC your guy is already rich and was pushing the limit on wealth to begin with. Your post was well written and its good character stuff, just null and void the $25 million bit.

Getting volunteers across the country to the location and convincing them to take a bunch of time out of their schedule or take of work to do so... basically impossible. Now if all the campaigns pull their resources AND coordinate with local groups not affiliated with the campaigns then you could probably get that many people working. BUT they would most certainly not all be Westra volunteers
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:31 am

Dentali wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
So I get that small donations going through Westra's campaign might be questionable, but what about the process of Prendergast, as a private citizen, making a direct donation to the charities concerned, without touching his political organs, but then his political organs/himself making a statement about said donation?



Thats fine but it would probably be seen as less that charitable if he is doing it for blatant political gain.


Well, arguably everyone involved is only really doing it for blatant political gain, so... he who is without sin.

But thanks, if it's legal, I'll go ahead with it!
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:45 am

Dentali wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Ok WCC, you can not kill someone off and have your character inherit $25 Million. If you want to have that money then fundraise for it.

Azek, Westra would not have ‘a couple thousand’ volunteers. The campaign hasn’t been going on for that long so unless he’s shipping the volunteers from across the USA to his rally, it is highly unlikely he’d have that many people there.



Agreed on both

WCC your guy is already rich and was pushing the limit on wealth to begin with. Your post was well written and its good character stuff, just null and void the $25 million bit.

Getting volunteers across the country to the location and convincing them to take a bunch of time out of their schedule or take of work to do so... basically impossible. Now if all the campaigns pull their resources AND coordinate with local groups not affiliated with the campaigns then you could probably get that many people working. BUT they would most certainly not all be Westra volunteers

Ok, i'll have the lawyer say it's illegal and it gets donated to charity and stuff
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Postby Azekopolaltion » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:35 am

Dentali wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Ok WCC, you can not kill someone off and have your character inherit $25 Million. If you want to have that money then fundraise for it.

Azek, Westra would not have ‘a couple thousand’ volunteers. The campaign hasn’t been going on for that long so unless he’s shipping the volunteers from across the USA to his rally, it is highly unlikely he’d have that many people there.



Agreed on both

WCC your guy is already rich and was pushing the limit on wealth to begin with. Your post was well written and its good character stuff, just null and void the $25 million bit.

Getting volunteers across the country to the location and convincing them to take a bunch of time out of their schedule or take of work to do so... basically impossible. Now if all the campaigns pull their resources AND coordinate with local groups not affiliated with the campaigns then you could probably get that many people working. BUT they would most certainly not all be Westra volunteers


Changed the volunteer size, I realized how crazy it is.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:32 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Vohoffsky sat down, saw the man's smile, sniffed the bourbon, guessed it wasn't poisoned and then took a sip of it.

"Hello, Governor Prendergast. How are you today?"


"I'm good, Theo. May I call you Theo? I'm feeling great as of late. How about you? I'm sorry to hear about your brother. Rough stuff. Always hurts most when it's closest to home. You have my condolences." He expressed. There was some genuine solemnity in that statement. Whilst Prendergast could be habitually mendacious, it appeared he understood - at least- the pain of a close grievance.

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