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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:17 am

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Here's a thought: what if we had COVID-19, but in 2021 so whichever person wins the election deals with it?


Imagine Bernie Porter trying to deal with the COVID pandemic

Just see how Viktor Orban did it. He'd probably close the Dow on Black Monday, declare a national emergency at around 1,000 cases, militarise police forces to get ready for "possible rioting" and have them blockade stores to stop people from violating social distancing and help distribute aid and assist medical personnel, declare nationwide lockdown and activate contact after a few thousand more cases and generally overreact to the whole situation.

And when he does clean up COVID-19 (presumably with a small bump in approval ratings due to the quick, if heavy-handed, response), he'd throw down the lockdown, reopen the Dow and keep his emergency powers in case of rioting or a second wave.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:18 am

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Jovuistan wrote:I will not.


Tonight on Fox News: President Porter nukes china for "creating the coronavirus" and "starting biological warfare"

He'd embargo them to shit and close borders though.

Just look at the power grabs in Poland and in Hungary.
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Congressional Dockets

House Docket
  • Fair House Apportionments Act - Representative Caroline Simone (D-NY-12) [ON HOLD, DON'T DEBATE]
  • Restoring Integrity to our Judicial Detainment System Act - Representative Emily Davenport (D-CA-34)
  • Automatic Voter Registration Act of 2019 - Representative Kathleen Nez (D-AZ-7)
  • Democracy and Openness for Venezuela Act - Representative Caroline Simone (D-NY-12)
  • Murder Sentencing Act - Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO) {PASSED SENATE}
  • Individuals with Disabilities Education Act - Representative Brett Thomas (D-NC-4)
  • Aung San Suu Kyi Congressional Gold Medal Revocation Act - Representative Caroline Simone (D-NY-12)
  • Proposing An Amendment to the United States Constitution to End Child Marriage - Representative John Atang (D-NY-3) {AMENDED} [AT VOTE]
  • The Camera Grant Act of 2019 - Senator James Moore (D-MI) {PASSED SENATE}
  • The Act for the Legalisation of Cannabis for Use Recreationally and Medically - Representatives Theodore Vohoffsky (R-CA-45) & John Atang (D-NY-3)

Senate Docket
  • The Student Investment and Deferral Act - Senator Abigail Winthrop (D-MA)
  • The Off Fossil Fuels Act - Senator Abigail Winthrop (D-MA) [SENT TO COMMITTEE]
  • The Green Corps for America Act - Senator Abigail Winthrop (D-MA)
  • Green New Deal Resolution - Senator Abigail Winthrop (D-MA)
  • Punishing Acts of Domestic Terrorism Act - Senator Richard Slater (R-AR)
  • The American Opportunity Act - Senator Ben Little (D-MD)
  • Federal Jobs Guarantee Development Act - Senator Abigail Winthrop (D-MA)
  • Heartbeat Protection Act of 2019 - Senator Luke Hawthorne (R-OH)
  • Corporate Freeloader Fee Act - Senator Tim Westra (D-NJ)
  • United States National Health Program Act - Senator Abigail Winthrop (D-MA)
  • Universal Prekindergarten and Early Childcare Act - Senator Tim Westra (D-NJ)
  • The American Israeli Alliance Defense Act - Senator Greg Kost (R-FL)
  • Recovery of Remains Act - Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO) [SENT TO COMMITTEE]
  • Reparations for Historical Injustice Act - Senator Benjamin Little (D-MD)
  • Raise American Incomes to Survive and Expand Act - Senator Tim Westra (D-NJ)
  • Penalty Enhancement Act - Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)
  • Defense of Fetal Life Act - Senator Barry Anderson (R-MO)
  • Protecting American Privacy Act - Senators Frank Doyle (D-OR) & Tim Westra (D-NJ)
  • Protection of Children (Antivaccine Abuse) Act - Representative John Atang (D-NY-3) {PASSED HOUSE} [AT DEBATE]
  • A Bill To Establish Election Day as a Federal Holiday - Senator Greg Kost (R-FL) {VETOED}
  • Insulating the Data of Everyday Americans Act - Representative Caroline Simone (D-NY-12) {PASSED HOUSE}
  • Protecting American Diplomats Act - Senator Frank Doyle (D-OR) {AMENDED} {PASSED HOUSE}

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Sanabel wrote:The nuke comment absolutely destroyed the Swalwell presidential campaign



You cant nuke a campaign that didn't exist
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when you make a television interview can you name real interviewers? or do they have to be fake
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:34 am

Dentali wrote:(Image)

what is that a reference to
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:39 am

Can I write my own interview with an NPC? I can have it vetted beforehand if y'all would like that.
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:42 am

Free Ward Marchers wrote:when you make a television interview can you name real interviewers? or do they have to be fake



fake is preferred, however if you are doing a major news outlet you need an admin to conduct it.
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:42 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Can I write my own interview with an NPC? I can have it vetted beforehand if y'all would like that.




If you let us vet it sure
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:42 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Can I write my own interview with an NPC? I can have it vetted beforehand if y'all would like that.


If you can bear waiting a little longer, I don't mind handling an interview for Porter. I'm just a little lethargic lately.
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:43 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Dentali wrote:(Image)

what is that a reference to



Richardson has a great deal of fishing knowledge but I do not, so i'm reading up a bit for this meeting
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:46 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Can I write my own interview with an NPC? I can have it vetted beforehand if y'all would like that.


If you can bear waiting a little longer, I don't mind handling an interview for Porter. I'm just a little lethargic lately.

Alright. I'll do both.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:46 am

Dentali wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:when you make a television interview can you name real interviewers? or do they have to be fake



fake is preferred, however if you are doing a major news outlet you need an admin to conduct it.


is msnbc considered major
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:52 am

Free Ward Marchers wrote:
Dentali wrote:

fake is preferred, however if you are doing a major news outlet you need an admin to conduct it.


is msnbc considered major



yes
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:53 am

Dentali wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:what is that a reference to



Richardson has a great deal of fishing knowledge but I do not, so i'm reading up a bit for this meeting

Oh
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:53 am

so richardson is from costal nc?
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Postby Free Ward Marchers » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:55 am

Dentali wrote:
Free Ward Marchers wrote:
is msnbc considered major



yes


well, then I would like someone to conduct an interview for Brookley (preferably not fox or cnn) pretty please
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:56 am

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Dentali wrote:

yes


well, then I would like someone to conduct an interview for Brookley (preferably not fox or cnn) pretty please



sure tg me
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:58 am

Agarntrop wrote:so richardson is from costal nc?



Yea wilmington area
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Dentali wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:so richardson is from costal nc?



Yea wilmington area

*googles wilmington*

I thought the best area for fishing is north of there?
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Postby Velahor » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:08 am

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I thoroughly believe that people should be allowed to form isolated communities, believe in backwards religions, and hold hateful beliefs as long as they do it peacefully. These two instances are tricky, because they were participating in illegal activities but met with excessive force.

Waco was a mass slaughter of innocent civilians under the guise of saving them from a few legitimate criminals in the Branch Davidian compound. Excessive force, plain and simple. There was physical and sexual abuse of children going on, so obviously action did needed to be taken against the individuals committing those crimes, but it was so poorly executed, because the approach taken was not to preserve the lives of those in the compound, but to treat them as enemy combatants. It's a more muddy one than Ruby Ridge though, because of the crimes involved.

As far as Ruby Ridge goes, the Feds messed up again, but also, Weaver didn't do anything that should be illegal, as his weapons charge is in violation of natural human rights in my opinion. Randy Weaver wasn't a dangerous white supremacist, just poor delusional fool who thought the world was ending when he left Iowa for Idaho. He took his family out to the same place that everyone who thinks the world is ending goes, and that is a place that includes a lot of white supremacists. He became somewhat radicalized by nature of associating with these people, but wasn't any more of a threat than the rest of the guys who live out there in the northern Rockies doing the same thing. The charge he was to be arrested on was selling a sawed off shotgun without a license, the state met him with a small army. The FBI, Marshals, and ATF acted on misinformation with an unreasonable amount of force and proved him right that the world was ending, at least in his mind. Obviously, if the feds are shooting at a building with children in it, they didn't thoroughly investigate the situation. In the end, the feds killed an innocent civilian who wasn't actively posing a threat to anyone, trying to pick up a guy on a minor gun violation.

In both situations, I think the federal criminal bureaus were trying to make a statement to far-righters that they wouldn't be tolerated, and used real criminal accusations to show brutal military force. They wanted to intimidate what they mistakenly saw as a rise in far-right terrorist organizations, and ended up instead slaughtering American citizens, mostly children and mothers.

To use an analogy, Waco is the equivalent someone hitting a pedestrian with a car, but instead of towing the car and arresting the driver, the police run it over with a bulldozer, with the driver and their whole family in it. Ruby Ridge was like getting pulled over for a speeding ticket, and then the cop reaches in the car and shoots your dog because it growled. Both are obvious instances of excessive force even though the accused that were to be arrested were likely guilty of their crimes.

From a legal standpoint, it was excessive force, and those killed without trials, including mothers and children, were punished as criminals by the federal government without due process. These people were acting within their 2A rights possessing the weapons that they had, but they forfeited those rights by committing crimes unrelated to their dissent against the government.

I'm glad the Feds changed their tactics with these groups, to kill less innocent people trying to get to these small-time cult leaders and white supremacists.

To sum it up:

Waco required government action, but they acted improperly and killed the people they were supposed to be saving.

Ruby Ridge did not require government action, and would have been avoided if not for an unjust and unnecessary gun law that the Feds decided to enforce with a small army.

Yeah, I hold similar views. I think the issue was with execution more than anything.

With regards to Waco, I tend to take an even more negative view toward the actions of the ATF, given that they had the chance to arrest Koresh outside of the compound but opted not to, and given that the FBI pretty much just continuously escalated the situation.

Also, you hit the nail on the head with Ruby Ridge. There was no reason to send a team of US Marshalls armed with automatic weapons to arrest someone for failing to show up to court. There’s a reason why Weaver ended up acquitted of most charges and his family won a large settlement.


Yeah, for me, Ruby Ridge kinda lives as one of my two go-to anecdotes of why I don’t trust American law enforcement, the other being the beating of Rodney King. Fast, excessive action is the typical course of action for American law enforcement, and while tactics have improved since the 90’s, the overall culture of using excessive force to ‘send a message’ is still common in some departments.
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Postby Dentali » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:14 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Yea wilmington area

*googles wilmington*

I thought the best area for fishing is north of there?



i really didnt research it a ton, but its not a big deal to go on road trips
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:27 am

Paulson should just do a roundhouse kick and knock Brookley down for the fun of it.

Or for a more subtle power move, she should shake Brookley's arthritis riddled hand tightly.
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