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NS Nation Name: The World Capitalist Confederation
Character Name: Boris Edylmann
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 64
Character Height: 175cm
Character Weight: 88kg
Character Position/Role/Job: Treasurer of the UAW (1980-1987), Chairman of the UAW (1987-1994), Treasurer of the AFL-CIO (1994-1998), Senator of New York (1998-), became Senior Senator in 2009.
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Character State of Origin: New York
Character State of Residence: New York
Character Party Affiliation: Democrat
Main Strengths: Strong blue-collar and union appeal, charismatic and good at backdoor schmoozing, able to project a more moderate image despite his democratic socialist views
Main Weaknesses: No corporate backing, weak popularity amongst white-collar "Portland" Democrats compared to other progressive democrats, needs to build up grassroots support more.
Biography: Born to a senior union organiser and a seamstress, Boris mostly suffered a lower-middle class existence, attending a local public school as opposed to a private one.

His father instilled in him his union ideals, expecting his only child to carry on his legacy as one of the top-ranking secretaries of the UAW, which, whilst it gave him a lot of power, gave him little money, a position that Boris would find himself in later.

After succeeding in school and armed with his father's political views (but more socially liberal, of course, due to the changing times), he went to [low-level Ivy League university, maybe Cornell or Dartmouth?], taking a master's degree in economics and completing the course fully.

He then used his father's connections to leap on as the Treasurer of the UAW, after a few contested backdoor meetings, serving his job well and with purpose. But he wanted more. He slowly positioned himself for Chairman, making meetings and even being endorsed by his future predecessor once he had resigned for health reasons.

He then took on his job as chairman, eyeing the AFL-CIO next, attending many meetings in person in order to build significant rapport with the other unions, again slowly sliding himself in as a future chairman. This time, however, he fell just short of the mark, receiving a handwritten "apology" from one of his allies and being appointed treasurer instead.

He did his job, muttering slightly but still cherishing the promotion, making several public appearances in order to pre-empt his 1996 run for the [insert safe, progressive-leaning NY district here]'s democratic nomination against a resigning incumbent.

His bid for the nomination failed, however, but received strong local coverage due to some string-pulling and a strong campaign, allowing him to begin plotting a much bigger victory next time in the same district. The problem? One of the New York Senators just resigned due to a diagnosis of prostate cancer, allowing Edylmann to sweep in if he so picked. The problem was, however, that it was generally frowned upon to run for both the House and the Senate, so Edylmann simply chose to pick for the Senate run, seeing the weak field of Democratic candidates in that particular election. He clutched the nomination, by only about 2,000 votes, making it an extremely close race, as his service to his nation had just begun.

His terms saw intensive action on his side, with his time under the Clinton Presidency making him look like a DINO on one side and a "country over party" Democrat on the other. His time in the Bush Presidency was mostly defined by the Iraq War, with his staunch opposition over it leading to a 10% swing in his favour when it came to the general, mostly from left-leaning independents that begun to oppose the war in 2004.

However, after making several hundred public appearances over that last decade from 1998 to 2008, he decided to throw his hat in the ring, using his decent name recognition to attempt to win the nomination from [not-Obama] and [not-Mrs. Clinton], losing out in a close 3rd place. He decided to work with [not-Obama's] half-progressivism, helping draft the ACA as a "compromise solution". He later had some tension with the [not-Obama] intervention with his interventions in Syria, leading to him being seen as a non-establishment figure.

He decided not to run for President in 2016, as he tried to build up his base for 2020 instead, seeing as progressivism would most likely not win but finally come to the spotlight. And so he did, releasing his memoirs in September 2018 and beginning to organise #EdylmannforPresident2020, hoping to get an exploratory committee up soon.


Other Info: Strongly economically liberal, "working-class" "blue-collar" socialist. Notable for his strong pro-worker stances, his support of cooperatives, increased worker management of companies and policies which amounted to "eloquent class war" according to Republicans. He is able to present himself as moderate due to generally careful language, but is still able to inspire progressives.

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Postby Azekopolaltion » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:39 pm

why would a former UAW leader representing NY of all states. also you don't win in NY senate elections without corporate backing.
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Postby Puertollano » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:11 pm

Azekopolaltion wrote:why would a former UAW leader representing NY of all states. also you don't win in NY senate elections without corporate backing.


Cynthia Nixon is a good example of that.
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Postby Granluras » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:51 am

Azekopolaltion wrote:why would a former UAW leader representing NY of all states. also you don't win in NY senate elections without corporate backing.

smh, dum dum unionists. time to send out the Pinkertons.
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:23 pm

Azekopolaltion wrote:why would a former UAW leader representing NY of all states. also you don't win in NY senate elections without corporate backing.

Exactly this. There is not really an auto industry in New York.

Also, we already have a former union leader turned Senator. I’d be more creative.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:51 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Azekopolaltion wrote:why would a former UAW leader representing NY of all states. also you don't win in NY senate elections without corporate backing.

Exactly this. There is not really an auto industry in New York.

Also, we already have a former union leader turned Senator. I’d be more creative.

I was thinking the President of a Cooperative, but I'd have to move them to Minnesota for that.
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Postby Granluras » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:05 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Exactly this. There is not really an auto industry in New York.

Also, we already have a former union leader turned Senator. I’d be more creative.

I was thinking the President of a Cooperative, but I'd have to move them to Minnesota for that.

Oh dear G-d, not Minnesota!
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Postby Puertollano » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:40 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Exactly this. There is not really an auto industry in New York.

Also, we already have a former union leader turned Senator. I’d be more creative.

I was thinking the President of a Cooperative, but I'd have to move them to Minnesota for that.


Maybe chose a state that doesn't already have a Senator?
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:49 pm

Puertollano wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I was thinking the President of a Cooperative, but I'd have to move them to Minnesota for that.


Maybe chose a state that doesn't already have a Senator?

This.
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:50 pm

I wouldn’t even do a Senator. There’s a reason why Bernie Sanders is the farthest left Senator there is. It’s not easy to get elected to statewide office without somewhat moderate views.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:51 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Puertollano wrote:
Maybe chose a state that doesn't already have a Senator?

This.

Well, see, most major cooperatives are in Minnesota or in deep red states (Missouri, Kansas, North Dakota), but I'll take Illinois. Is Illinois a good place for Edylmann?
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:53 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:This.

Well, see, most major cooperatives are in Minnesota or in deep red states (Missouri, Kansas, North Dakota), but I'll take Illinois. Is Illinois a good place for Edylmann?

We have an Illinois Senator.

Maybe put them in a House seat.
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:54 pm

I don’t think that president of a cooperative is a good launchpad to political office
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:55 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Well, see, most major cooperatives are in Minnesota or in deep red states (Missouri, Kansas, North Dakota), but I'll take Illinois. Is Illinois a good place for Edylmann?

We have an Illinois Senator.

Maybe put them in a House seat.

That is a good idea, but I already have someone in the House. What about Virginia? I mean, it seems like it's too moderate for someone like him, but there's no harm in asking.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:56 pm

Sanabel wrote:I don’t think that president of a cooperative is a good launchpad to political office

That's not his launchpad to political office. His launchpad will be as the Chairman of Capital Impact and making several public appearances over television, on left-wing radio and TV shows, in order to sell a new cooperative model of business to the country and do some marketing whilst promoting himself as a political figure..
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:56 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:We have an Illinois Senator.

Maybe put them in a House seat.

That is a good idea, but I already have someone in the House. What about Virginia? I mean, it seems like it's too moderate for someone like him, but there's no harm in asking.

He’d have to be a lot more moderate and have an establishmentarian background.
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Postby Puertollano » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:57 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:We have an Illinois Senator.

Maybe put them in a House seat.

That is a good idea, but I already have someone in the House. What about Virginia? I mean, it seems like it's too moderate for someone like him, but there's no harm in asking.


Thought about a Governor, maybe?

We don't have many of them running for Pres yet.
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:59 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I don’t think that president of a cooperative is a good launchpad to political office

That's not his launchpad to political office. His launchpad will be as the Chairman of Capital Impact and making several public appearances over television, on left-wing radio and TV shows, in order to sell a new cooperative model of business to the country and do some marketing whilst promoting himself as a political figure..

There, you’re doing it again.

Making public appearances and selling an ideology is a formula that you’ve used for many characters both accepted and unaccepted. It’s not really realistic.

Also, going on left wing TV (it barely exists) and other forms of media isn’t a great way to run for office. Look at those who have tried.
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Postby Puertollano » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:04 pm

What about [not-Michelle-Obama]? That would be an interesting character to RP as, especially if you want to run for President.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:07 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:That's not his launchpad to political office. His launchpad will be as the Chairman of Capital Impact and making several public appearances over television, on left-wing radio and TV shows, in order to sell a new cooperative model of business to the country and do some marketing whilst promoting himself as a political figure..

There, you’re doing it again.

Making public appearances and selling an ideology is a formula that you’ve used for many characters both accepted and unaccepted. It’s not really realistic.

Also, going on left wing TV (it barely exists) and other forms of media isn’t a great way to run for office. Look at those who have tried.


I'll make Goldman a Democrat then, try my hand at a moderate Democrat.

I had a model of Edylmann, one that didn't involve a mass movement, but it seems to have collapsed due to the weakness of American cooperatives. I suppose I could just shift him over to the House, but Vohoffksy is already in the House, so...

It's either Democrat Goldman or Edylmann in the House. I'm still trying to think...
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:09 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:There, you’re doing it again.

Making public appearances and selling an ideology is a formula that you’ve used for many characters both accepted and unaccepted. It’s not really realistic.

Also, going on left wing TV (it barely exists) and other forms of media isn’t a great way to run for office. Look at those who have tried.


I'll make Goldman a Democrat then, try my hand at a moderate Democrat.

I had a model of Edylmann, one that didn't involve a mass movement, but it seems to have collapsed due to the weakness of American cooperatives. I suppose I could just shift him over to the House, but Vohoffksy is already in the House, so...

It's either Democrat Goldman or Edylmann in the House. I'm still trying to think...

Why not a writer for Jacobin or New Statesman in the House in a safe district?

Is this character running for President?
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:12 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
I'll make Goldman a Democrat then, try my hand at a moderate Democrat.

I had a model of Edylmann, one that didn't involve a mass movement, but it seems to have collapsed due to the weakness of American cooperatives. I suppose I could just shift him over to the House, but Vohoffksy is already in the House, so...

It's either Democrat Goldman or Edylmann in the House. I'm still trying to think...

Why not a writer for Jacobin or New Statesman in the House in a safe district?

Is this character running for President?

Yes. Since Vohoffsky opted out of the Presidency to begin building his movement, Edylmann/Goldman will be my horse in the Democratic race, allowing me to have both sides in my hand.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:14 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Why not a writer for Jacobin or New Statesman in the House in a safe district?

Is this character running for President?

Yes. Since Vohoffsky opted out of the Presidency to begin building his movement, Edylmann/Goldman will be my horse in the Democratic race, allowing me to have both sides in my hand.

Maybe do a former Baharia cabinet secretary?
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:25 pm

Sanabel wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Yes. Since Vohoffsky opted out of the Presidency to begin building his movement, Edylmann/Goldman will be my horse in the Democratic race, allowing me to have both sides in my hand.

Maybe do a former Baharia cabinet secretary?

Goldman it is then. Edylmann could make it as a Secretary of Labor, but I highly doubt it, so I'm going with Goldman instead.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:27 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Maybe do a former Baharia cabinet secretary?

Goldman it is then. Edylmann could make it as a Secretary of Labor, but I highly doubt it, so I'm going with Goldman instead.

What will Goldman’s background be?
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


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