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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:29 am

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Novas Arcanum wrote:@G-Tech how long will it take Soldiers to learn Sunfire and Method of Channeling?


Ah, yes. I should have Sunstrength put together for you today.

Olthenia wrote:Oh, G-Tech? Another question, if I may~

Do Soldiers become useful on the same turn they finish training? For instance, if I began training some on turn 4, would I then be able to command them on turn 6 - since that's the third, and final, turn of their training - or would I need to wait until turn 7?


I'm afraid not. As with most everything in this RP, benefits are only reaped the year after completion of an action - a District's income only comes the turn after it is finished, a wall is only ready the turn after it is completed, and soldiers are only useful for war once they have spent the full three years training.

@ Everyone: Military training appears to have been simultaneously confusing and too inaccessible for many. As such, I have taken time to rebalance and clarify the mechanics. Of note is that now any civilization may raise soldiers slowly at their Capitol, without a Military District or Barracks, but a Barracks is necessary for raising large armies at once, or raising armies outside of the Capitol.

Also, tech-trading has been added with pertinent mechanics.

Thank you, it was way to confusing. I swear I read the rules 8 times yesterday and looked at the IC to confirm 4 times.
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Postby Olthenia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:35 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Olthenia wrote:Oh, G-Tech? Another question, if I may~

Do Soldiers become useful on the same turn they finish training? For instance, if I began training some on turn 4, would I then be able to command them on turn 6 - since that's the third, and final, turn of their training - or would I need to wait until turn 7?


I'm afraid not. As with most everything in this RP, benefits are only reaped the year after completion of an action - a District's income only comes the turn after it is finished, a wall is only ready the turn after it is completed, and soldiers are only useful for war once they have spent the full three years training.


Excellent. Thank you.

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Postby Novas Arcanum » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:38 am

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Deal!


Sure thing, that works for me.


Thank you also would you be willing to hire out a peasant or slave to help construct my harbor district?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:11 am

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Sure thing, that works for me.


Thank you also would you be willing to hire out a peasant or slave to help construct my harbor district?


Hrm. Well, I'm personally labor-bottlenecked myself. But, for the right price, aye, I would consider it.
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Postby Aidannadia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:25 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:@ Everyone: Military training appears to have been simultaneously confusing and too inaccessible for many. As such, I have taken time to rebalance and clarify the mechanics. Of note is that now any civilization may raise soldiers slowly at their Capitol, without a Military District or Barracks, but a Barracks is necessary for raising large armies at once, or raising armies outside of the Capitol.

What's the cap on troops without a military district?
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:30 am

Ralnis wrote:
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Not that keen on giving slaves, will rather give more Wealth instead and more food will help you grow the horde as well through natural pop growth. Can give the Chariotry tech, and will be able to give Bronzeworking when finished.

Hmm, how much more wealth and food would you throw at me in exchange for not taking your people? Also, how far is Gergan from your kingdom?


Hmm, how does a lump sum of 25 Food/10 Wealth and Chariotry sound? I think they're the dot right on the eastern side of the mountains, then I think Maelon is in the mountains to the Northwest (correct me if I'm wrong G) and I don't know who is in the Southwest, by the way who is that?
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Plotek i medialnych bredni nie daj sobie wmówić,
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Atakowi propagandy stawiaj czoło dzielnie,
Nie daj sobą sterować i myśl samodzielnie.


Mass Effect Andromeda is a solid 7/10. Deal with it.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:34 am

Aidannadia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:@ Everyone: Military training appears to have been simultaneously confusing and too inaccessible for many. As such, I have taken time to rebalance and clarify the mechanics. Of note is that now any civilization may raise soldiers slowly at their Capitol, without a Military District or Barracks, but a Barracks is necessary for raising large armies at once, or raising armies outside of the Capitol.

What's the cap on troops without a military district?

250 soldiers (if capital) + a additional 250 for every barracks. Military districts helps raise expertise
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:37 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Hmm, how much more wealth and food would you throw at me in exchange for not taking your people? Also, how far is Gergan from your kingdom?


Hmm, how does a lump sum of 25 Food/10 Wealth and Chariotry sound? I think they're the dot right on the eastern side of the mountains, then I think Maelon is in the mountains to the Northwest (correct me if I'm wrong G) and I don't know who is in the Southwest, by the way who is that?

The Freehold of Ita: Prominent masons, prideful in their civic duty and followers of many sacred traditions, the wayward sons of Ita value their freedom most highly, for long in the chains of the Midnight Emperor did their kindred languish. Many walled, but with scarce enough soldiers to man a tenth of her defenses, Ita mainly trusts in the strength of her reputation for her defense, and is a shrinking people. Still, their glory is not wholly forgotten, and in their cunning crafts and religious rites is a strength of character one would ignore at their peril. Written by no man, and graven in mountain bone.
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:52 am

Thanks!

And the Brown one up north and Red along the river in the south?

Plotek i medialnych bredni nie daj sobie wmówić,
Codziennie się rozwijaj i nie daj się ogłupić,
Atakowi propagandy stawiaj czoło dzielnie,
Nie daj sobą sterować i myśl samodzielnie.


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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:58 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Thanks!

And the Brown one up north and Red along the river in the south?

I don't really remember who brown was but I believe it's the midnight empire, could be wrong.

As for the red, that is the Fastaqui, who is run by Olthenia.
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:08 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Hmm, how much more wealth and food would you throw at me in exchange for not taking your people? Also, how far is Gergan from your kingdom?


Hmm, how does a lump sum of 25 Food/10 Wealth and Chariotry sound? I think they're the dot right on the eastern side of the mountains, then I think Maelon is in the mountains to the Northwest (correct me if I'm wrong G) and I don't know who is in the Southwest, by the way who is that?

I already have charioty and the saddle. The food will replenish the slave pop(more Saladonias still alive) but I do have another proposal. I'm not leaving for some time and you need a military to buffer others like me. If the hubris of Midnight is getting to them, you will have much more brutal people than the Wandering Grey at your doorstep.

So my second deal is this. Forgoe your allegiance to Bloodright, they haven't responded to you and it seems your pissing them off repeatedly as something is happening in those hills that seems to mean they're starting to lose power. In exchange you become a client of the Uusharan and send us a tribute that we both can work with.

We will defend the kingdom from any attacks and rebellions as long the king paid his dues to the Gate Council. And I assure that the services of a near endless attrition support of the undead horde can provide a bigger shield than some mercs or whatever Bloodright could've done.

Another thing I want to add is that I want access to your science labs/government districts. You can keep the gold, I want the science since I need to recover my blood magic.
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Postby Olthenia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:59 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Thanks!

And the Brown one up north and Red along the river in the south?

I don't really remember who brown was but I believe it's the midnight empire, could be wrong.

As for the red, that is the Fastaqui, who is run by Olthenia.


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Postby Aidannadia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:07 am

I have this wonderful mid-late game concept in my head of this giant quinquereme with mounted ballistas with chains and a wench to deal with aerships. It just looks so cool in my head and would be really fun to write a fight for.

It'd be large enough that one ship in a squadron.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:10 am

Aidannadia wrote:I have this wonderful mid-late game concept in my head of this giant quinquereme with mounted ballistas with chains and a wench to deal with aerships. It just looks so cool in my head and would be really fun to write a fight for.

It'd be large enough that one ship in a squadron.

I would love to share my mid to late game concept, but I vowed to myself to keep it classified.
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:41 am

Ralnis wrote:
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Hmm, how does a lump sum of 25 Food/10 Wealth and Chariotry sound? I think they're the dot right on the eastern side of the mountains, then I think Maelon is in the mountains to the Northwest (correct me if I'm wrong G) and I don't know who is in the Southwest, by the way who is that?

I already have charioty and the saddle. The food will replenish the slave pop(more Saladonias still alive) but I do have another proposal. I'm not leaving for some time and you need a military to buffer others like me. If the hubris of Midnight is getting to them, you will have much more brutal people than the Wandering Grey at your doorstep.

So my second deal is this. Forgo your allegiance to Bloodright, they haven't responded to you and it seems your pissing them off repeatedly as something is happening in those hills that seems to mean they're starting to lose power. In exchange you become a client of the Uusharan and send us a tribute that we both can work with.

We will defend the kingdom from any attacks and rebellions as long the king paid his dues to the Gate Council. And I assure that the services of a near endless attrition support of the undead horde can provide a bigger shield than some mercs or whatever Bloodright could've done.

Another thing I want to add is that I want access to your science labs/government districts. You can keep the gold, I want the science since I need to recover my blood magic.


Welp, a liege that can't even support his vassals isn't much to have so I can switch liege and help you take down the Empire no problem, gladly. I don't think we're in any position to attack them now though, least of all me. I can pledge allegiance to the Gate Council but I think we should play the long game, tbh it seems a bit overly optimistic to assume they won't be able to respond right now. I can give the big lump of food, disband the mercs and then I won't have to finance their upkeep so I can pay a smaller regular tribute instead of a lump sum and I can use the rest of the wealth and resources to shore up a stable supply base, defensible positions and field a force to support your undead for the coming war-effort and any after. In the mean time you can make use of a government district to generate extra science to get your blood magic going. I'll move my Scholar in Ellander to one of the heartland cities and your Scholar can set up there and still be close to your camp. What do you think?
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Plotek i medialnych bredni nie daj sobie wmówić,
Codziennie się rozwijaj i nie daj się ogłupić,
Atakowi propagandy stawiaj czoło dzielnie,
Nie daj sobą sterować i myśl samodzielnie.


Mass Effect Andromeda is a solid 7/10. Deal with it.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:54 am

Aidannadia wrote:I have this wonderful mid-late game concept in my head of this giant quinquereme with mounted ballistas with chains and a wench to deal with aerships. It just looks so cool in my head and would be really fun to write a fight for.

It'd be large enough that one ship in a squadron.


Pfft. As if we’ll fly our glorious floating fortresses low enough to get ballistaed.
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Postby Aidannadia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:55 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Aidannadia wrote:I have this wonderful mid-late game concept in my head of this giant quinquereme with mounted ballistas with chains and a wench to deal with aerships. It just looks so cool in my head and would be really fun to write a fight for.

It'd be large enough that one ship in a squadron.


Pfft. As if we’ll fly our glorious floating fortresses low enough to get ballistaed.

F

It'd be cool though.

In other news, I'm starting Elven Slavery.
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Postby Novas Arcanum » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:01 am

The Arameri would start human slavery but their not douchebags

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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:04 am

Anyone got a suggestion for the buffs of me building the puqi equivalent of Machu Picchu?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:09 am

Aidannadia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Pfft. As if we’ll fly our glorious floating fortresses low enough to get ballistaed.

F

It'd be cool though.

In other news, I'm starting Elven Slavery.

Eh, by the time you get over here, I would most likely finish my research project that I plan to do after finishing the stair case investigation, the amulet, a manufacturable artifact that contains the stored energy of the excess mana a individual has. In other words, basically craftable elven bonus minus the pop. Better yet, it's sellable without pissing off those ear jabbers, and would probably be worthwhile to elves to as it increases the Mana capacity.
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Postby Aidannadia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:14 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Aidannadia wrote:F

It'd be cool though.

In other news, I'm starting Elven Slavery.

Eh, by the time you get over here, I would most likely finish my research project that I plan to do after finishing the stair case investigation, the amulet, a manufacturable artifact that contains the stored energy of the excess mana a individual has. In other words, basically craftable elven bonus minus the pop. Better yet, it's sellable without pissing off those ear jabbers, and would probably be worthwhile to elves to as it increases the Mana capacity.

Honestly don't have much interest inland beyond the coast and rivers.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:15 am

Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:Anyone got a suggestion for the buffs of me building the puqi equivalent of Machu Picchu?


Hmm. Traditionally, a source for trade and a strategic fortress.
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Postby Novas Arcanum » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:15 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Aidannadia wrote:F

It'd be cool though.

In other news, I'm starting Elven Slavery.

Eh, by the time you get over here, I would most likely finish my research project that I plan to do after finishing the stair case investigation, the amulet, a manufacturable artifact that contains the stored energy of the excess mana a individual has. In other words, basically craftable elven bonus minus the pop. Better yet, it's sellable without pissing off those ear jabbers, and would probably be worthwhile to elves to as it increases the Mana capacity.


I love the your irrational hatred of elves this isn't TES where the Ayleids tormented humans for shits and giggles.

Realisitcally the elves in this world have done nothing wrong to humans..
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:21 am

Novas Arcanum wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Eh, by the time you get over here, I would most likely finish my research project that I plan to do after finishing the stair case investigation, the amulet, a manufacturable artifact that contains the stored energy of the excess mana a individual has. In other words, basically craftable elven bonus minus the pop. Better yet, it's sellable without pissing off those ear jabbers, and would probably be worthwhile to elves to as it increases the Mana capacity.


I love the your irrational hatred of elves this isn't TES where the Ayleids tormented humans for shits and giggles.

Realisitcally the elves in this world have done nothing wrong to humans..

Nah, I actually really like the fact of being able to use spells without dying, and also making a profit out of it.
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Postby Aidannadia » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:43 am

Novas Arcanum wrote:The Arameri would start human slavery but their not douchebags

I'll say, I'm usually someone rather leftie and orderly like the Forge in these kinds of stuff but being a douchebag for once is nice change of pace.
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